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Author Topic: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?  (Read 26280 times)

Offline Floor

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #240 on: September 10, 2020, 05:16:11 PM »
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"It's okay to be a liberal however I think sometimes the left goes to far left with a the welfare state/guaranteed income thing. I think they should have mandatory re-training in something to teach skills like to become a trades person. There shouldn't be a free lunch where people get paid to do nothing, it's an unworkable solution. "
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There are sometimes 3rd and 4th generation welfare people in the U.S.. Its how it is for them and its all they have know out side of school and a few brief periods of employment.  Its not a healthy thing in some cases I think.  Although its not a child's fault.  Its like feeding starving children in some desolate part of the world.  The children will simply grow up to give birth to more children who would starve unless some one out side gives them food.  Or, unless they can be removed to a place where they can learn to grow their own food.   But in the mean time, does one let those children starve or  become so malnourished that they are literally brain damaged for life or die ?

But also it is a wrong and grossly misleading to characterize the vast majority of welfare recipients as being in that kind of generational cycle.

Q - OnePower
I would beg to differ and the U.S. like Canada has created a welfare state for big business giving billions of dollars to already wealthy corporations to create a few hundred permanent jobs while giving management and shareholders a bonus. That's not capitalism nor is it socialism but more like the communist oligarchy we see in Russia.
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Yes, it's my understanding that U.S. welfare to corporations (subsidies, tax breaks) far exceeds that which is extended in the public welfare system.   The previous statement seem easily plausible to me give the 80 to 20 wealth distribution between rich and the rest of us in the U.S..

I could go on and on, but basically I find no real disagreement with your perspectives / statements, that would be any thing other than splitting hairs.
 
                  I saw this film last night.  Wow.

       https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #241 on: September 10, 2020, 05:21:40 PM »
I hope so
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                Good for Germany !
                                well done !
                                      hoo rah !

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #242 on: September 10, 2020, 05:34:40 PM »
NOVA ran a special last night on "HUMAN NATURE"
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/sep/03/nova-human-nature/
another you should see...[I was unable to watch entire movie yet ...what I did see was remarkable ] we have truly turned a corner and can play as creators ....while also healing many illness.



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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #243 on: September 10, 2020, 05:47:38 PM »
floor,in the E.U. european countries we have a so called "social-democratic"- system,clearly to differ from the U.S.public system,here we pay higher income taxes and oblgated social security contributions ,in average 40% to the estatal wellfare system !

As endconsumer : +Value added tax ,what does not exist in the U.S.!

The difference : social financial riscs of individuals is spreaded over the total community !


But often it is only a number game ,in politics :
Thesis : the N.A.T.O. members should invest 2% from their GDP for their defense !

The U.S.ministry of Defense their numbers,brut/total or net/liquid : how much goes to the Wallstreet boys and how much really to the U.S. army service ?
Theme : "Americas Missing Money",up to 65000 US$/citizen ( beginning with Rumpsfeld,2001)
         Pre-Trump(as President,not as Talk-Master) era

Pays Germany net/liquid more or less for the defense related the U.S. net budget/GDP ratio  !?
There are some in mind that the actual political problem is Trump/Republican Party related,what is not !Also an eventual Joe Biden/Democratic Party has to change the economical and social degression from the U.S. !

What is today 'capitalism' or 'communism' ?

The people republic of China their KP government members,often multi-millionares and some 'billionaeres'  !
KP constitution rules,laws and order ?

Putin : earned or raided 3,4 billions US$ equivalent ?
Russian constitution rules,laws and order ?

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #244 on: September 10, 2020, 08:16:28 PM »
Agree with your observations / appreciate the info Lanka.

             Liberal does not mean Democratic party member.
For me the Democratic party has always been just the lesser of two evils.
            example.. Democratic party has not been led by a series of climate change deniers.
            example.. virtually all the major and violent U.S. domestic terrists / mass shooters have been the extreme right of republican.

I don't mean by any means, to imply that all republicans are fools.   
But it is a different kind of mind set than my own, to consider a Trump as the lesser of two evels / superior to Hillary Clinton.

Also, I feel that the democratic party has lost its way / is out of touch with reality, just as much so as the republicn party

RATIONAL response may appear to be as radical to some, but the times we are in are their self, radical.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/30/humanity-wiped-out-animals-since-1970-major-report-finds

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #245 on: September 10, 2020, 09:16:11 PM »
To live the life less emotional and without exaggeration :

PBR,price ( stock exchange) to book value ratio  and BLR,book value to liquidation value ratio (= recovery percentage)
100  stock exchange units equates 1 liquid money unit           by  company assets liqidation


Cars becoming over the time scratch,houses becoming over the time scratch,companies becoming over the time scratch,estates and their economies becoming scratch  !
For this we have linear or progressive amortization/depreciation percentage quotes for goods book value actualisation !

And for the banking sector : the actual book value is the base for financing
Prime (tax)rate : relatively 100% recovery safe ( " muendelsicher")  maximal 48% for new products
Sub-Prime (tax) rate : up to 50% losts : maximal 16% additional to the 48% more for new products
Junk rate ~ up to 100% losts : zero credit from serious finance companies

  Not the seller ( high/low) price is the base : 

Finance system global base :

geral ( = international standart) minimum mass production standart costs   = International book value

   German macroeconomical PRIMAT : ALLGEMEINE NIEDRIGSTWERTPRINZIP

From classical macroeconomical view point we never invest in houses = Title ,but in industrial transformed material which gives people and goods shelter-/cover function !
From classical macroeconomical view we never invest in cars= Title ,but in industrial transformed material with people/goods  transportation function !

When we see " a city",assuming the buildings construction average with 30 years,this let us by progressive amortization giving to this zone this value :
  average 100 nominal units the construction investment value - to average 12,5 units book value actual
with maximal allowed  36% partial - used ware- "Prime(tax) rate"- financement ~ 12,5 units book value x 0,36 =

           4,5 financial credit units the maximal 100% recovery investment credibility !
For the ground : zero credit ! The worth from 1 high people density sqm equates 1 sqm "desert" ,empty space !

Where this " city" stays is from macroeconomical view and their standartization unimportant ! Equalizing !

Sustainability = 100% recycling- and 100% relocation-ability !


Because this ,the limitations physically and economically,Europe colonized North -America and other global regions  ! EXPANSION !
And the european empirial (silver-)Thaler became the world coin currency NR1 : U.S.A.,Canada,Hongkong,Singapore,Australia,Newzealand, now spelled : Dol(l)ar

China is now in a similar situation ! In search for expansion !


We can ever be in discuss about right/wrong assumptions/estimations/calculation results,but for our future project of  industry virtualization and professonals scan and digitizing : target " academy in a microchip" we can develop a REPRAP production industry,where human costs price part will become ≤ 5%,management/capital tax and distribution included !
Actually more 95% human costs ( included called "win/profit/gain) price part and 5% material ratio  !

In macroeconomy there is not an existence of U.S.A.,CA,AUS,AUT,FRG,FR,RU,PRC,NRC,........,    this are ever sub- exemplary geophysical study cases !
Macroeconomy treats physical " units" as part from "totum".REPRAP has not ILO and not WTO restrictions/limitations !
Small 'Men-machine' ,productivity of 10 human workers,hour loan/Lohn less than 1 KWh ,≤ 1 Eurocent
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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #246 on: September 11, 2020, 12:43:16 PM »

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #247 on: September 11, 2020, 12:58:18 PM »
From physical and psychological-ethical view this is anymore cannibalism,when the body is death and the body did not become killed for the function " meat for alimentation" !

It is biomaterial-recycling !

But actually there is an another legal restriction/barrier  : kadaver-/Leichenschaendung 'necrophilia/desecration of a corpse

But : from orthodox ethical view each ' organ removal' and/or organ donation would have to become declared : " criminal act " =  desecration of a ( living/death) corpse  !

13.Oktober,1972 : fly 571 from Montevideo to Santiago de Chile : plane crash in 4000 meters high   
                    Cannibalism or ' legal surviving act' !?

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #248 on: September 11, 2020, 06:52:06 PM »
Recycling by decomposition biologically, is the most perfected and harmonious form of recycling.

Returning  human bodies and our excrement into the natural bio-cycle as fertilizers (rapidly) would "revolutionize" agriculture.

No need to get any closer to cannibalism than that.

                                  Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxSwxexZYo
                                   and
https://overunity.com/17940/thinken/msg526196/#msg526196

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #249 on: September 12, 2020, 02:28:18 AM »
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Who can we trust: Science, Politics, ......

Gaslight much?.

In fact science is the only reason your alive because if it didn't exist your family tree would have rotted at the roots long ago. Your parents, grand parents and great grandparents would still be living in caves and scavenging for food lucky to live until they were 40. I suspect plagues and disease would have wiped out 90% of the population we know without science. Even if by sheer luck, despite all the odds of a world without science, you would still be some dim wit, living in a cave scavenging for food.

As I like to say, it's people like myself who operate your power generation facilities who make your quality of life possible and if we walked away you would literally be back in the dark ages overnight. No power, no food, no water, no HVAC, no fuel to run your vehicles and your basically a caveman. So you may want to show a little more god damn respect to the people much smarter than yourself who understand science and make your life as you know it possible.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #250 on: September 12, 2020, 11:15:00 PM »
On vaccinations...

I was doing some research on how vaccines are made, tested and distributed as due diligence. How the vaccine must go through many trials in small groups, larger more diverse groups and long term testing to avoid harmful effects. They must also bias in all the trials with placebo's to ensure the beneficial effects are actually real and not imaginary.

So when some half-wit politician says it will only be a matter of months we can be sure there lying to serve there own political interests.

That's not how real science works and either it actually works as claimed and doesn't do harm and kill someone or it does not. So this fast tracking, we will have a safe and effective vaccine by fall is more bullshit in my opinion. Obviously long term testing cannot occur in a matter of months and there is no way in hell I or my family would get vaccinated for Covid as it stands.

Then we have the "let's just open everything up and prey" crowd who keep infecting other people due to there own ignorance to the facts. We can't have a couple drinks and drive or not wear a seat belt because that is irresponsible and may kill someone. However, apparently being stupid and possibly infecting hundreds of other people due to our own ignorance causing some deaths is acceptable. So how does that work exactly?, being irresponsible and harming others is okay in one instance but not the other even if the result is the same?.

So in my opinion everyone does have the inherent right to act irresponsibly and do stupid shit if they so choose however if it does do harm to others then they must be held responsible for there actions. Where it does get a little weird is when these populist types think they can do whatever the hell they want and not be held responsible which is obviously more bs on there part. Personally I think we should have contact tracking and if some dipshit infects us or our family and does harm we should sue there ass into oblivion just like any other action which does harm.
 
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« Reply #251 on: September 13, 2020, 11:44:36 PM »
Not to mention the drug company that made it too. This garbage of no liability shit needs to be reversed and now. Let the so called miracle makers be responsible for all the damage they do. That for all drugs produced today. No bribing government with lobby monies to weasel out as they did.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #252 on: September 17, 2020, 01:08:24 AM »
onepower (just what does your name mean anyway - one power like a dictator?)  Maybe you would like to explain some of these numbers?


Current population of United States about 331 Million
Population of United States predicted in 5 years (2025)  100 Million  a reduction of 231 Million people.


Oh,  these are not my predictions.  This is from www.deagel.com which is a real intelligence organization for the United States.  Ties to the N S A, used for briefing the President, the UN, NATO, The World Bank and so on.


See the numbers here:


https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America


Info about deagel.com here:


https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80


Sure sounds like someone knows about a depopulation agenda - Bill Gates style agenda to vaccinate the entire world.   And those numbers are not just for the U.S. - you can see nearly all other countries on that site also with similar population reductions.   

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #253 on: September 17, 2020, 04:03:07 AM »
onepower (just what does your name mean anyway - one power like a dictator?)  Maybe you would like to explain some of these numbers?


Current population of United States about 331 Million
Population of United States predicted in 5 years (2025)  100 Million  a reduction of 231 Million people.


Oh,  these are not my predictions.  This is from www.deagel.com which is a real intelligence organization for the United States.  Ties to the N S A, used for briefing the President, the UN, NATO, The World Bank and so on.


See the numbers here:


https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America


Info about deagel.com here:


https://steemit.com/news/@rebelskum/deagel-a-real-intelligence-organization-for-the-u-s-government-predicts-massive-global-depopulation-50-80


Sure sounds like someone knows about a depopulation agenda - Bill Gates style agenda to vaccinate the entire world.   And those numbers are not just for the U.S. - you can see nearly all other countries on that site also with similar population reductions.

Without to dispute about their ' deagle' researchers qualification and competence some points to notice :

2013 to 2025 forecast of world population 7,1 to 6,9 billions habitants  : ~ 2,8% less
This related to this "crazy" U.S.A. and Central-Europe prediction !

The GDP per capita or as purchase power parity 2013 : 2025 forecast  world-wide compared f.e. U.S.A. !

World purchase power parity 2025 development :            -20%

and U.S.A. purchase power parity development 2025  :  - 83%

Forecasts are done with worst/best case scenarios,here we see not the explanation about change parameters and assumptions/estimations their base !
Only number changes !


Sincerely

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #254 on: September 17, 2020, 08:35:27 AM »

He is not talking Spanish or Latin, some must have problems with Ears and Eyes, because still they don't understand it:

https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/health/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn-vaccines-into-a-means-of-killing/
 

 

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