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Johan_1955

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #225 on: September 04, 2020, 10:38:41 AM »

Still waiting for your explanation about the German graph!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk

 

Paul-R

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2020, 11:52:53 PM »
Still waiting for your explanation about the German graph!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf0pYH-sqWk
To be brutally honest, Johan, I don't give a flying f**k.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #227 on: September 08, 2020, 05:09:29 PM »

What is Science these days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWCzEOsNeOI
 

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #228 on: September 08, 2020, 10:26:30 PM »
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What is Science these days?
The same thing it always was...
"Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence".

In fact the Amish are very scientific and there buggies, harness, hand tools, implements, housing, barns, clothes and social structure are based a methodical approach to what gets the job done and what does not. There also pretty smart in separating there communities from society to avoid all the pitfalls including pollution, chemicals, violence, corruption, substance abuse and...Covid.

In effect when one claims not to believe in science there basically saying they do not believe in knowledge and understanding of the natural world based on evidence and facts. So we should understand science is not a cult or belief but a methodology which should give the best answer but not always.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #229 on: September 09, 2020, 12:36:12 AM »
So we should understand science is not a cult or belief but a methodology which should give the best answer but not always.
Yes, indeed.
All too often, people see science as a spanner to hit others with, often using confusion or ambiguity to get the point accepted. The problem with the covid debate on this thread and others is that people who believe that what is written is always accurate, or even  in good faith, may pay a very high price.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #230 on: September 09, 2020, 05:29:35 AM »
Paul-R
It's kind of mind boggling however I think I'm starting to understand whats going on.

I think this fake news and conspiracy theories started to hide Russian interference and the blackmail of trump and all his lies, corruption and such. However I don't think they expected any rational person to believe there bs to this extent. I don't think they expected that this many people could be so gullible so they kept doing what works. I think the Russians just wanted to disrupt the U.S. economy to gain an advantage however now were actually talking about the Russians making trump into a tin pot dictator to gain control.

So why has it worked so well?, It's not the republican/democrat nonsense in my opinion it's religion driving the mob mentality. Trump and the Russians convinced the far right populists they are the superior race just like Adolf Hitler did. As such they think nothing of lying, dehumanizing and degrading others while always claiming to be the victim... pulled right out of the pages of Mein Kampf.

The mistake most are making is the same one the Germans made in thinking the facts and reason would prevail but it didn't because were dealing with a mob mentality. So we should understand that given the chance the populists will turn the U.S. into a dumpster fire and make trump there supreme ruler like Putin. They will betray their country and everything it stands for because there religious fervor knows no bounds. Were already seeing them gunning down people in the streets, a proverbial bible in one hand and an assault rifle in the other.

EMJ nailed it "Choose Life, say no! Reject the Deep State Satanists! Don't forget, God Wins!".

God wins, and they would betray there country, it's values, it's people and become Communists to win. So we should understand this was always a religious war and we all know how that turns out. So given the chance I expect them to burn there own country to the ground to get what they want. Putin would be proud and is probably laughing his ass off right now, lol.

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@ One Power

Well said...

but then were talking to those susceptible to manipulation by Cambridge Analytica type methods and Russian internet propaganda methods.   Fear combined with some anger issues underlies their thinking.

@ All readers

Br exit makes no sense, electing Donald Rump made no sense ! 

That meme that Covid 19 pandemic is a fake also makes no sense.

                       Donald  Rump or Donald Duck if you prefer, is Putin's bitch.

Considering the staggering number of lies and intentionally misleading garbage that has come out of that man's mouth,  no one of both good reason and good conscience can support his continuing as president.

He is the U.S. president and has said that Covid 19 is, like unto the "liberal media" fake.

Well I say he is a lier.  Dangerous and destructive.   This alone disqualifies him for the office he holds.

He has been impeached, and most of us can hardly wait for his removal.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/donald-trump-politifact-lie-of-the-year/index.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-lies-washington-post_n_5df898c3e4b03aed50f4725d

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/fact-checker-president-trump-made-19127-false-or-misleading-claims-in-1226-days/ar-BB14RCpH

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-top-lies-of-2019-daniel-dale/index.html

I witnessed / checked out very many of the above lies for myself.  Didn't take the press at its word,
and didn't accept sound bites as proof,  because things can be quoted out of context / misleading.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #232 on: September 09, 2020, 05:52:58 PM »
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Brexit makes no sense, electing Donald Rump made no sense !
That meme that Covid 19 pandemic is a fake also makes no sense.
Donald Rump or Donald Duck if you prefer, is Putin's bitch.
Considering the staggering number of lies and intentionally misleading garbage that has come out of that man's mouth,  no one of both good reason and good conscience can support his continuing as president.

Brexit was most likely a Russia op to destabilize the European Union through a "divide an conquer" mentality not unlike the Dem/Rep division in the U.S. While everyone is fighting each other and grows weaker the Communists grow stronger.

All the populist leaders who denied Covid following trumps lead caused unnecessary suffering and damage to the economy which again served the Communists interests. Russia and China seem to be doing well, I wonder why?.

I think you nailed it... "no one of both good reason and good conscience can support trump".
However this has nothing to do with reason or conscience and the greater majority of trumps base have bought into white nationalism and populism/theism. There version of law and order is...
-Reelecting trump at any cost, stacking the supreme court to criminalize abortion and forcing theism/Communism on our children.
-Closing the borders, stopping immigration and bringing back a new version of slavery or indentured servitude.
-Then a version of Communism with a dictator like trump who ensures there can be no free or fair elections and there power to corrupt can continue.

Now trump is denigrating and dehumanizing the military and the intelligence agencies illegally placing in term people in power as scapegoats. They place someone like Dejoy, the postmaster general, to rig the postal service rigging the election for trump. At best Dejoy will be fired but that doesn't change the fact the election was rigged. They place a turd like Barr, the attorney general to stop all legal action against trump and be his whipping boy. At best Barr is fired but all the damage has already been done. Look at Cohen, he did all trumps dirty work to cover up the pornogroping thing and collusion with Russia but only Cohen went to jail... there scapegoats.

Trump places brain washed scapegoats to do all the corrupt dirty work, throws them under the bus and he gains power. Trumps supporters are also scapegoats because if trump becomes a dictator and the U.S. becomes Communist they all lose there freedom. As you imply, trump and his supporters become Putin's bitches serving Russia's interests not there own.

I think all this stems from trump being caught on video doing some sadistic things with a couple Russian prostitutes. He is probably being blackmailed by the Russians to be a good little want to be dictator or lose everything. Obviously trump only cares about trump and it seems pretty obvious he would sell out his country to save face and become a supreme ruler like his new pal Putin.

If this happens were basically looking at WW3 and everybody loses so we should understand there are no winners here... we all lose.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #233 on: September 09, 2020, 06:55:39 PM »
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Yes, indeed.
All too often, people see science as a spanner to hit others with, often using confusion or ambiguity to get the point accepted. The problem with the covid debate on this thread and others is that people who believe that what is written is always accurate, or even  in good faith, may pay a very high price.

It begs the question...who does all this anti-science anti-facts rhetoric serve?.

When facts are no longer facts the gullible and naive will believe almost anything in my opinion. They could believe any bullshit no matter how absurd if enough doubt and fear are spoon fed to them day after day. So I wouldn't consider all this anti-science/fact nonsense random opinions and I don't believe that many people could be that stupid.

I suspect the Communists may have set up massive call centers like in India with fake identities to saturate the internet with propaganda. Why wouldn't they?, it's cheap and efficient and one person on a high bandwidth connection with notifications could spam every FE site on the planet. A call center could hit millions of forums and news comment sections in a day so why wouldn't they?. Get every crackpot and gullible person all worked up and hooked on this shit then start brain washing them into believing whatever they want.

It's also interesting how all the anti science/fact responses are short and sound scripted. There all repetitive, short in length and never respond to any questions when prompted for more detailed facts or proof of there claims. It begs the question... are they just stupid or paid per response?.

I'm just not buying it and my intuition tells me there is much more to this than we know. Look at India, they have large numbers of call centers with hundreds of people spamming millions of people with telephone scams. So why not do the same with Communism/Populism to cast doubt on science, facts, democracy and freedom?.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #234 on: September 09, 2020, 07:23:11 PM »
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It begs the question...who does all this anti-science anti-facts rhetoric serve?.

The nutters are all discreetly pro Trump. I think he is trying to duck responsibilty for the covid crisis, despite the fact that he is president. ["Heavy hangs a head that wears a crown"]. He's hoping to pin it on phantom people controlling from above for reasons that aren't clear.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #235 on: September 09, 2020, 08:11:52 PM »
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The nutters are all discreetly pro Trump. I think he is trying to duck responsibilty for the covid crisis, despite the fact that he is president. ["Heavy hangs a head that wears a crown"]. He's hoping to pin it on phantom people controlling from above for reasons that aren't clear.

I would agree trump completely dropped the ball on Covid and made it political to serve his interests.

With respect to the nutters being pro trump, there's obviously plenty of nutters on the left as well. The nutters seem to like the fringes of left/right while most normal rational people move to center in my opinion. I'm a Conservative but I like the Liberals platform on making big polluters pay because they made the pollution not me. Why would I subsidize the big polluters?, that's not conservatism or capitalism that's socialism in my opinion.

My philosophy is to take the best from both sides of right/left to make something better and work together for the common good.

As trump said..."I don't take responsibility at all". He takes credit for everything good but takes no responsibility for anything bad which is basically the mind of a child syndrome. So the fact that trump is now a republican has nothing to do with it. The real problem is that he has mental problems, he is irresponsible and unfit to hold any office serving the public.

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #236 on: September 09, 2020, 09:01:32 PM »
So the fact that trump is now a republican has nothing to do with it. The real problem is that he has mental problems, he is irresponsible and unfit to hold any office serving the public.

I wonder if he could do massive damage to the GOP. He has made them look pretty stupid whilst flying their flag.

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« Reply #237 on: September 09, 2020, 11:54:29 PM »
I am a liberal, better believe it, and not at all willing to be shamed for it.

I believe in liberty for all.  I value the personal freedom I have know in this time and place, where I was fortunate enough to have been born,  America.  However, I am most definitely, conservative on some issues.  Anyone in their right mind, should be !

               for the uninformed reader

In the U.S. and in the majority of the world's nations, we have free market / capitalistic economic systems (not communist).   
         And
we have various forms of democratic / self governance  (not fascist).

                                   In the U.S.

All federal, state, county and municipal police departments,
fire departments,
public schools,
public roads,
public hospitals,
municipal, county, state and national parks, 
                                     as well as
all branches of the military,
the veterans administration,
our social security system,
the "welfare system" 
                                         and
public side walks
                                          are
                SOCIALIST institutions, or  benefits there of.

These are good things.  They are Not communist, they are socialist !

There are many, many very good aspects of socialism in our U.S. system.

I am against fascism !

  Read this below and you will be to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

I am in no way a member of some B.S. "antifa" nor any other "antifascist" organization.

But if any here, oppose forced vaccinations,  I strongly suggest that you
first dedicate your self to preventing the rise of fascism.  Wake up in deed.
              DUMP TRUMP

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #238 on: September 10, 2020, 04:40:20 AM »
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I am a liberal, better believe it, and not at all willing to be shamed for it.
I believe in liberty for all.  I value the personal freedom I have know in this time and place, where I was fortunate enough to have been born,  America.  However, I am most definitely, conservative on some issues.  Anyone in their right mind, should be !

It's okay to be a liberal however I think sometimes the left goes to far left with a the welfare state/guaranteed income thing. I think they should have mandatory re-training in something to teach skills like to become a trades person. There shouldn't be a free lunch where people get paid to do nothing, it's an unworkable solution.

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In the U.S. and in the majority of the world's nations, we have free market / capitalistic economic systems (not communist).   
         And
we have various forms of democratic / self governance  (not fascist).

I would beg to differ and the U.S. like Canada has created a welfare state for big business giving billions of dollars to already wealthy corporations to create a few hundred permanent jobs while giving management and shareholders a bonus. That's not capitalism nor is it socialism but more like the communist oligarchy we see in Russia.

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SOCIALIST institutions, or  benefits there of.
These are good things.  They are Not communist, they are socialist !

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

I don't agree with socialism as it is defined above and we also need much more private enterprise and small business. If everything was owned and operated by the community it would soon turn into a shit show where nothing gets done efficiently. It simply doesn't work in practice because too many people always disagree or have a vested interest ie. corruption at which point nothing gets done as planned.

Socialism simply doesn't work nor does communism and capitalism is still the best bet if it can be regulated to still serve the the public good. Let's face the facts, anytime we get large numbers of people to make any kind of competent decision it generally turns into a shit show. What we need are better, more competent leaders unlike the one's we have who can actually get something done and act in all our best interests.

Everyone has gone way too far left and right in my opinion. What ever happened to normal or middle of the road?.

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Johan_1955

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Re: Bill Gates - will he try to force vaccinate you soon ?
« Reply #239 on: September 10, 2020, 11:20:34 AM »

The PCR test is not made for this Job, wrong tool, only to get High numbers, people in fear and the chickens obedient!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html


See below Germany's figures, Shake and Purchase toilet paper!!