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« on: May 20, 2020, 07:01:25 PM »
This is the new board from Cyril.Please add your posting here. Many thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 11:08:12 PM »
Hello Smudge,

This is one of only a few threads I will be following, along with Nelson's and of course mine. Most threads here are completely off topic and irrelevant to any serious researcher.

Smudge, the Schrodinger Wave Equation applied to the Charged Particle in the Copper Wire, what are the Consequences of Wave Resonance in the form of Magnetic Field Standing Waves? I would really like to hear your detailed interpretation of this concept. It has not been touched upon hardly at all anywhere by most.

Great to have you aboard Smudge, I have read much of your musings, some I think is extremely close to what I have experienced.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris Sykes

P.S: Would be great if more here got a little bit more serious and focused on the topic at hand!

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 09:37:00 PM »
Just a note, topic still under construction.

 
  Did speak with Cyril today [briefly] and sent him a link to this new board ,also Partzman will be assisting [when he has time]
so Smudge [Cyril} and Partzman will be moderators here at first.
hopefully many experiments can be modeled for the community.
respectfully  Chet K...PS for Clarity... topic is still not open yet..[have to ask Stefan to set Partzman as Moderator too...many documents will be shared here.

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2020, 12:49:22 PM »
Smudge, the Schrodinger Wave Equation applied to the Charged Particle in the Copper Wire, what are the Consequences of Wave Resonance in the form of Magnetic Field Standing Waves? I would really like to hear your detailed interpretation of this concept. It has not been touched upon hardly at all anywhere by most.
Hello EMJ,

If you look at the tiny wavelength for the stationary Schrodinger wave and compare it with the much much longer wavelength for practical magnetic standing waves you will find that the use of magnetic resonance is out of the question.  However if you asked me whether the Schrodinger wave can be altered by the presence of a magnetic field then that is a different question, and my answer would be yes.  But I would go on to say that it is probably the magnetic vector potential that plays its part there.  It is now generally accepted that an electric charge q (such as an electron) immersed in a magnetic vector potential A obtains a form of (hidden) momentum p = qA, and of course momentum p plays its part in the derivation of the Schrodinger equation.  And by some serendipity I have recently been made aware of something where this may well show up

The Zpower overunity device invented by Dr. James B. Schwartz uses Al and Bi plates that are presumably in contact with each other.  And within that structure are coils driven with alternating or pulsed current.  Now any contact between dissimilar metals will produce a potential difference and that voltage basically stems from the different chemical potentials of the two metals, which in turn come from the different energy levels of their Schrodinger wave functions.  So it may be expected that when we have two Al-Bi couples in series, both at the same temperature but one within a magnetic field while the other is not, then we might observe a voltage, just as we would if they were thermocouples used to measure a temperature difference.  Maybe it’s the A field we want across the one junction, and perhaps a reverse A field across the other junction.  It seems that some experimentation is worthwhile here.

Below is a paper I have just recently written giving more information.

Smudge 

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 05:24:29 AM »


Hello Smudge, it is good to hear from you! I hope you are safe and well in these dire times!

If I may reply in between your post?


Hello EMJ,

If you look at the tiny wavelength for the stationary Schrodinger wave and compare it with the much much longer wavelength for practical magnetic standing waves you will find that the use of magnetic resonance is out of the question.



I agree, the Fundamental wave, at 2.8Ghz for EPR is not practical! The Wavelength vs the Wire length is not practical. But how about a Harmonic of the Fundamental? E.G: Harmonic: 25 Frequency: 83.45Hz and of course the Wire Length being the multiple of the Harmonic Interval?



However if you asked me whether the Schrodinger wave can be altered by the presence of a magnetic field then that is a different question, and my answer would be yes. 



This is important information! Of course, any external Magnetic Field giving rise to the Variables for Spin Procession Equation. A fundamental value changing the Procession value, as the external Magnetic Field changes, as does the Procession frequency.




But I would go on to say that it is probably the magnetic vector potential that plays its part there.  It is now generally accepted that an electric charge q (such as an electron) immersed in a magnetic vector potential A obtains a form of (hidden) momentum p = qA, and of course momentum p plays its part in the derivation of the Schrodinger equation.  And by some serendipity I have recently been made aware of something where this may well show up



Again this is important information!



The Zpower overunity device invented by Dr. James B. Schwartz uses Al and Bi plates that are presumably in contact with each other.  And within that structure are coils driven with alternating or pulsed current. 



For others, the material, Ferromagnetic, Diamagnetic or Paramagnetic all play a role in the Spin Polarisation, and of course the Spin Integer value. Aluminium is paramagnetic, Bismuth is diamagnetic. Observe below image taking into account the polarisation vs H. Some Images that others may not have ever seen before?



Now any contact between dissimilar metals will produce a potential difference and that voltage basically stems from the different chemical potentials of the two metals, which in turn come from the different energy levels of their Schrodinger wave functions. 



I am guessing the Spin Polarisation and the Energy levels, being under the influence of an External Magnetic Field to the Internal Magnetic Moment of the Spin Polarised Particle, e.g: Electron or other, this being the 2.8Ghz, or the Schrodinger Wave?



So it may be expected that when we have two Al-Bi couples in series, both at the same temperature but one within a magnetic field while the other is not, then we might observe a voltage, just as we would if they were thermocouples used to measure a temperature difference.  Maybe it’s the A field we want across the one junction, and perhaps a reverse A field across the other junction. 




If I may ask, is it your opinion that the Magnetic A Vector Potential is the Fundamental Potential? Or do you think it is an After Effect of another Fundamental Potential? If I may point out, if you did not already know, the Roy Meyers' Absorber, used a combination of Zinc+++ and Iron++, in conjunction with External Magnetic Fields in a similar way. The difference being: ‭0.7168‬ Volts.




It seems that some experimentation is worthwhile here.

Below is a paper I have just recently written giving more information.

Smudge


Experiment is always beneficial, I agree!

Thank You Smudge! I have read your paper, may take a few times to absorb the content! I always like to read a few times to make sure I have an idea of whats being talked about.

A Video I have had for some time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Y4LZ4oMLU seems to be gone from the net.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris Sykes
« Last Edit: May 24, 2020, 07:30:45 AM by EMJunkie »

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 05:35:04 AM »


Hi Smudge,

Another video I have that seems to have disappeared from the net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTIjksJzgc

If you want to download, I use: http://www.youtube-d.com/

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 05:12:47 PM »
I agree, the Fundamental wave, at 2.8Ghz for EPR is not practical! The Wavelength vs the Wire length is not practical. But how about a Harmonic of the Fundamental? E.G: Harmonic: 25 Frequency: 83.45Hz and of course the Wire Length being the multiple of the Harmonic Interval?

This is important information! Of course, any external Magnetic Field giving rise to the Variables for Spin Procession Equation. A fundamental value changing the Procession value, as the external Magnetic Field changes, as does the Procession frequency.

IMO this is not spin precession related because, unlike ferromagnetic metals, neither Al or Bi create spin polarization of the conduction electrons.  The Schrodinger equation gives the probability distribution of electron position and is related to the Fermi energy, those pesky electrons are dancing about at Fermi velocities.  If they move through a non-uniform magnetic vector potential A field their momentum changes, hence even a static A field might have an effect.  It would be interesting to see what effect you get (if any) when you hold a neo magnet close to one thermocouple in a circuit pair.  Surely someone could do this simple experiment.  The alternating field in that Zpower device might be simply to get an AC output that can be transformed to useful voltages.

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If I may ask, is it your opinion that the Magnetic A Vector Potential is the Fundamental Potential? Or do you think it is an After Effect of another Fundamental Potential? If I may point out, if you did not already know, the Roy Meyers' Absorber, used a combination of Zinc+++ and Iron++, in conjunction with External Magnetic Fields in a similar way. The difference being: ‭0.7168‬ Volts.
I am not familiar with the Meyer work, I'll look into it.  And it is my opinion that the Magnetic A Vector Potential is the Fundamental Potential.
Regards
Smudge



Experiment is always beneficial, I agree!

Thank You Smudge! I have read your paper, may take a few times to absorb the content! I always like to read a few times to make sure I have an idea of whats being talked about.

A Video I have had for some time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Y4LZ4oMLU seems to be gone from the net.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris Sykes
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 05:27:30 PM »
Correction.  I am aware of the Meyers work, it was brought to my attention on overunityresearch.com where I wrote the attached paper.  At age 86 I quite easily forget things.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 11:06:06 PM »



Hello Smudge,

I must apologise, some of your post, I may have misinterpreted. With the greatest respect, I have noted where I am not sure I understand, so please forgive me.



IMO this is not spin precession related because, unlike ferromagnetic metals, neither Al or Bi create spin polarization of the conduction electrons. 



Oh, Smudge, my research and understanding has led me to a contradictory result. As I understand it, the Spin Polarisation is determined by the Material, Aluminium is paramagnetic, Bismuth is diamagnetic. Of course still having Spin Up and Spin Down Electrons, but the majority being in the direction specified? Your'e saying this is not correct?

You must excuse me, I am lost for words...



The Schrodinger equation gives the probability distribution of electron position and is related to the Fermi energy, those pesky electrons are dancing about at Fermi velocities. 



And a Wave Function, due to the Electron being a Particle and also a Wave. Normally very small as you pointed out, but never the less, a wave function, or a distribution of a wave function, yes I agree, and yes I see that. Also, that the wave function collapses when observed, thus no wave can then be observed and the Particle itself is then observed. E.G: No more Wave Function. This is true for all charged particles, having a Magnetic Moment.



If they move through a non-uniform magnetic vector potential A field their momentum changes, hence even a static A field might have an effect.



I will do the experiment if you can provide a Circuit of the requirements you would like to see? I have some thermocouples here and tons of Neo Magnets from the old days of research.



It would be interesting to see what effect you get (if any) when you hold a neo magnet close to one thermocouple in a circuit pair.  Surely someone could do this simple experiment.  The alternating field in that Zpower device might be simply to get an AC output that can be transformed to useful voltages.



If the output is directly electrically connected to the Al and Bi plates themselves, and the input it to small electromagnets, embedded inside the Al plate, via cutouts, then would this not be Polarising the Spin of the Al and Bi Plates, one being opposite to the other as I indicated in the above image? No?

Apologies, I am still confused about your statement, not understanding perhaps what your meaning was...




I am not familiar with the Meyer work, I'll look into it.  And it is my opinion that the Magnetic A Vector Potential is the Fundamental Potential.
Regards
Smudge



Very interesting, Thank You! I have been interested in the Magnetic A Vector Potential for a long time!

Many of my experiments point toward the Spin Polarisation, via a sort of Antenna Theory, which seems to be connected directly to the Schrodinger Wave Equation, being very beneficial to getting the best out of machines.

I mean no disrespect, and certainly not any intention to argue with you, only to clear up some fundamental aspects of the Technologies we have tried for so long to understand with a greater overall knowledge.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 11:56:54 PM »



Hi again Smudge, I think I understand why I misinterpreted your meaning, apologies, my mistake: Procession is not Polarisation.

I studied the book Spin Wave Technology by George J Bugh, I found this very good information!

The below image of a Spin Wave Chain, resonant, almost like a Wave Guide. This is how I see the Copper Coils. It helps me get the best from my machines.

A Video can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hn46yfWDk0

It is ironic, the ZPower machine does support ideas along these lines. Focusing specifically on the Spin Polarisation of the Conductor itself! Procession is not Polarisation, so we do have to be careful, but the idea and concept can be closely aligned as you see in the video and image. One Spin Wave by itself is not enough! We must have Magnetic Standing Wave, two equal and opposite Spin Waves, each with opposite Spin Directions or Polarisation.

It has been found that the Electron is made up of a standing wave, Image also below, Article here: Resonant Standing Waves Comprise the Electron

For others, 1 Femto Second is equal to 1 Peta Hertz, that's: 1,000,000,000,000,000.00 Hz or One quadrillion Hertz. Don't forget the Harmonics!

Electrons radiate or absorb energy in the form of photons when they are accelerated. Photon energy can be expressed using any unit of energy. Among the units commonly used to denote photon energy are the electronvolt (eV) and the joule (as well as its multiples, such as the microjoule). As one joule equals 6.24 × 1018 eV. It is super interesting that this is also equal to the definition of One Ampere, 6.24 x 1018 electrons per second.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
    Chris Sykes
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2020, 02:36:24 AM »


Any one for Room Temperature Superconductors from a few Copper Cu Coils? Or Aluminium (paramagnetic) and Bismuth (diamagnetic) Plates? Cooper Pair is by very definition a Superconductor is it not? http://go.nature.com/2HUtUBg

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As I understand it, the Spin Polarisation is determined by the Material, Aluminium is paramagnetic, Bismuth is diamagnetic. Of course still having Spin Up and Spin Down Electrons, but the majority being in the direction specified? Your'e saying this is not correct?

You use the word majority, and that is not correct (it would be correct for ferromagnetism).  It is a small minority that are in the direction specified.  The magnetic susceptibility of Al is +2.2x10-5, and that indicates how small the spin polarization is, it's too small to generally be of any practical use.  The magnetic susceptibility of Bi is -1.66x10-4 so again the spin polarization is small.  In both cases most of the spins have random orientation, only a small proportion (like 10-5 or 10-4) get aligned.  That is why I did not expect spin polarization to play its part here.

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I will do the experiment if you can provide a Circuit of the requirements you would like to see? I have some thermocouples here and tons of Neo Magnets from the old days of research.

Well it's just the case of using your thermocouples as though for temperature measurement, with one held at a known temperature (ambient or an ice bath) while the other is in the environment to be measured, except the environment is the presence of a magnetic field.  Bringing a magnet close to the junction will induce a voltage from that movement, so the meter/scope will go off scale.  You then wait to see whether the voltage returns to zero to see whether the presence of the static field has had an effect.  Because you are not sure that the small induced current during the magnet movement hasn't created an unwanted electro-chemical effect, like altering the contacting surfaces, you then remove the magnet and wait to hopefully see the voltage return to zero.   May need several runs to get the feel of things.

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If the output is directly electrically connected to the Al and Bi plates themselves, and the input it to small electromagnets, embedded inside the Al plate, via cutouts, then would this not be Polarising the Spin of the Al and Bi Plates, one being opposite to the other as I indicated in the above image? No?

Yes but only for a small proportion of electrons.  However the total number of electrons is huge, so you could be right.  It should show up in the simple thermocouple experiment if Al and Bi formed the thermocouples.

Regards

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2020, 01:01:00 PM »
Hi again Smudge, I think I understand why I misinterpreted your meaning, apologies, my mistake: Procession is not Polarisation.
May I correct your computer's grammar, it is Precession, not Procession.

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The below image of a Spin Wave Chain, resonant, almost like a Wave Guide. This is how I see the Copper Coils. It helps me get the best from my machines.
As that is a spin wave progression along a chain of fixed magnetic dipoles, then each dipole is actually precessing about a fixed axis (in this case the vertical axis).  So spin waves can be linked to precessions.

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It is ironic, the ZPower machine does support ideas along these lines. Focusing specifically on the Spin Polarisation of the Conductor itself! Procession is not Polarisation, so we do have to be careful, but the idea and concept can be closely aligned as you see in the video and image. One Spin Wave by itself is not enough! We must have Magnetic Standing Wave, two equal and opposite Spin Waves, each with opposite Spin Directions or Polarisation.

It has been found that the Electron is made up of a standing wave, Image also below, Article here: Resonant Standing Waves Comprise the Electron

For others, 1 Femto Second is equal to 1 Peta Hertz, that's: 1,000,000,000,000,000.00 Hz or One quadrillion Hertz. Don't forget the Harmonics!
And with those numbers you are pointing out the impractibility of attempting to sync with those frequencies, even if you consider using a sub-harmonic.

If you really are interested in using frequencies and spins then the subject of spin precession is worth investigating.  Electron spin resonance (ESR) requires microwave frequencies that are beyond most experimenters, but nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) does not.  Here is a paper suggesting some experimentation.  If there is interest I will set up a board to cover the work.

Smudge

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2020, 04:15:07 PM »
Cyril
This NMR pdf musing is wonderful
Could you open a discussion/builders board?


IMO it serves many purposes
Especially for teaching and “how to” achieve
Or possibly achieve!


Remarkable gift for those who hope to understand
The driving mechanisms for NMR too


These documents and images in your pdf are wonderful
You make it so simple for such a potential return...
And I see pancake coils too !:,)


Much gratitude
And yes with the goal of a build !


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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2020, 03:54:36 AM »


Hello Smudge, Thank You, I have fixed my Spell Check: Precession is now set.

I did a quick test, using my thermocouple, with the Magnet at Room Temp, and I did not see a change bringing the thermocouple close to the Magnet. Image attached below:

Regarding the paper: Space Quanta Modulator, Clean Propulsion Power Now! Automotive Propulsion Tomorrow By Floyd A. Sweet. Ph.D.

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The number of turns per coil is determined by Faraday's law as quantized by Neumann. Stranded wire is used for ease of winding. This wire is specially insulated, and over this insulation is wound a current feedback winding spirally traversing the total length of the coil conductor. Also a voltage winding of considerably smaller wire and more turns is also wound axially, traversing the total length of the coil conductor.



A Friend and I did these experiments, Images attached below:

At certain frequencies, output power of a reasonable quantity is achievable. I did not manage to get that experiment to go Above Unity however. Now I have more experience, I believe more experiments would be worth doing, I will when I get some more time.

From my experience, the Electron, when under Pressure and Polarity, as I read in Floyd Sweets document: Magnetic Resonance by Floyd A. Sweet. PH. D

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Using a more rigorous wavemechanics approach, S2 is replaced by S(S + 1), etc



I cant help but look into Wave Mechanics to make the Charge in the Conductive Wire, to Free Charge, and Accelerate this Charge down the Wire, as a Rail Gun does Permanent Magnets in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs

All Charge having its own Magnetic Moment as you know.

Building Machines to mimic Superconductors seems to be the primary and strictly the only real path forward. It is true, Wave mechanics is a key to the approach.

My study of Floyd Sweet, he was set in stone on Standing Wave Mechanics:

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A nucleus with spin I, will have QI + 1 possible orientations in a magnetic field and 2J + 1 energy levels. For simplicity, consider a hydrogen atom in a molecule. The nucleus is a proton with a spin of 1⁄2 and its magnetic moment is either parallel or antiparallel to the field this produces energy levels as shown in Fig. 1(c), Fig. 1(b) electron spin moment in a magnetic field.

and...

Referring to the Jensen machine stated: natural magnetic resonance freq = 2.80GHz the nuclear magnetic resonance of a free electron when charges in magnetic states are induced by magnetic field the changes in states causes a condition called electron paramagnetic resonance, or EPR. The EPR of a free electron is 2.80 H MC. Where H is in gauss. This should be the initial state of the defining mathematical format.

and...

Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated. However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power.

and later...

If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E / 2 to E.




My Experiments all point toward this being true. I just don't have all the theory correct yet. I have verified most of what Floyd Sweet wrote.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,

   Chris Sykes

 

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