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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2020, 10:54:08 PM »
Dog, hello we know this circuit don't we  :D it's the Akula porch light the one that has the 7414 can't be bothered looking for it

I just posted a bread board using this cuicuit on the Dally thread, whats the cut off frequency of a tip 31 ? 20Nsecs  ;D (try 3 mhz) =333ns

Yeah show me the scope shot  ;D now show me it working  ;D now tell me how you have done it ! Any thing is possible  ;D

Regards Raymondo
« Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 01:50:42 AM by Raycathode »

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« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2020, 01:00:57 AM »
  EMJunkie:  To answer your question, no, I never replicated any of Kapanadze's devices. Nor will I, as he has not open sourced any of his projects. Nor has anyone else been able to replicate any of his devices, as yet.
  I replicated an earlier Stalker schematic and device, that has clear videos, schematics, and full explanations. And that is what I still have on hand. But, I will not waste more time on something that is not clearly showing all the details. Unless...there is some hope that there is a useful and practical purpose to do so. Yes, I have become kind of like Hoppy was, a bit skeptical after all these years.
  Nelson: Please forgive me if I sound confused, but, do you have a self running device (like the one you showed on youtube), or not? I ask because you mentioned that it is not self running. Can you clear that up for me. And if so, why are you looking into other circuits. As your self running device, is the only thing on this whole forum, that self runs. But, you don't want to discuss it?  Correct?
  All I'm really into, are solid state self runners. But, I am an electronic assembler, not an inventor. Like you.
  In anycase,  as you are asking for help, IF, I can be of help to you, con mucho gusto.
                                                                       NickZ



Hi NickZ,

My reply below:


  EMJunkie:  To answer your question, no, I never replicated any of Kapanadze's devices. Nor will I, as he has not open sourced any of his projects. Nor has anyone else been able to replicate any of his devices, as yet.



For the record, I, 100% believe in Kapanadze's work and devices, he is a Giant in the field! 



  I replicated an earlier Stalker schematic and device, that has clear videos, schematics, and full explanations. And that is what I still have on hand. But, I will not waste more time on something that is not clearly showing all the details. Unless...there is some hope that there is a useful and practical purpose to do so. Yes, I have become kind of like Hoppy was, a bit skeptical after all these years.



Great to hear! I wish you luck on that device.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2020, 01:58:57 AM »
So let me ask you guys.  Keeping it simple as I can.

Below is my circuit diagram for the Akula/Ruslan self-powered flashlight.
I greyed out the stuff I feel isn't all that important, at least not for this
post.  The inductor you see could be anything.  Akula used a flyback core,
Ruslan used a pot core and I suppose Nelson could use a pair of bifilar
pancake coils.

I'm not saying one way or another whether this circuit actually works.
Instead, I'm asking this:  If it did work, what would have to happen
in the portion of the circuit I haven't greyed out?

Someone asked the question, "Where does the energy enter the system?"

Suppose for a moment (uh hum), time is the energy we are trying to
get to jump into our devices.  What I mean is, what if we play a little
trick with time.  We know electrical energy typically moves at about
one foot in one nanosecond.  Now imagine if we do a little something
with our inductor where the same electrical energy has to be in two
places at exactly the same time.  Crazy aay?  But just for the sake of
grins let's suppose we have a mechanism to do this.  Then let's suppose
we can get the polarity correct in such a way we can power things
with it.  We can light LEDs, or we can charge a capacitor that keeps
things running.  Or, if we're having a really good day, we can do both.
And it's my suspicion, we have to do both.

If we take the optimistic perspective here that at least one of these
many OU devices we have all seen is real, how could it possibly
work?  I have a hunch the concept is actually very simple and the
technique to make it happen is what's killing us.



@DogOne,

Your Post is great to see! Thank You, some 5 odd pages on Nelsons thread and this is by far the best post here! By far the smartest approach! By far the most observant!


So let me ask you guys.  Keeping it simple as I can.

Below is my circuit diagram for the Akula/Ruslan self-powered flashlight.
I greyed out the stuff I feel isn't all that important, at least not for this
post.  The inductor you see could be anything.  Akula used a flyback core,
Ruslan used a pot core and I suppose Nelson could use a pair of bifilar
pancake coils.

I'm not saying one way or another whether this circuit actually works.
Instead, I'm asking this:  If it did work, what would have to happen
in the portion of the circuit I haven't greyed out?



An excellent approach! What is clear, is that 99% of the Circuitry is used to drive the Gate of the Mosfet. This 99% can be put to the side for the moment, and the focus should be on the Coils, the Core and the Magnetic Fields. Of course, this series of Magnetic Interactions in the proximity of the Conducting Coils, is important, of course Electromagnetic Induction occurs every time The Magnetic Field Changes in Time, or the Current Changes in Time in proximity to the Conductors.

Engineers try very hard to eliminate this Parasitic Inductance, but we want to capitalise on this!



Someone asked the question, "Where does the energy enter the system?"




People that ask this question are in desperate need to do more Homework! The Conventional "Generator", would these people ask the same question? What would be their answer? Could they give an answer that makes any sense whatsoever?

   1: Where is the only place inside a "Generator", that has Insulated abundance of Charge?
   2: Why is it, that we must bare the ends of the Copper Coil Conductors, to access this Charge?
   3: What are the processes occurring, to make this Charge become 1: Separated, and then 2: Flow as a Current?
   4: Is there any Electrical Transformation, ever, at any stage of the "Generators" lifetime that re-charges the Copper Coil?


Some people would debate, the Torque on the shaft is the transformation of Energy, to Electrical Energy, and this Transformation is where the Energy comes from, but there is Zero Electrical connection to the Shaft! There has to be, or the Charges would become short circuited! There is Zero Transformation Process occurring here, in the form of Torque, to Electrical Energy, Joules per second!

In point of fact, technically, Faraday's Law of Electromagnetic Induction predicts E.M.F, Electromotive Force, measured in units of Volts, and the "Generator" can "Generate" a Voltage, or E.M.F with only Windage and Frictional Forces on the Rotor, so this is wrong and not correct!

Only when a Current is Flowing in the "Generator" Coils, a M.M.F, a Torque is imposed on the Shaft!

So, this Shaft Torque is an After Effect of Faraday's Law of Electromagnetic Induction, the Shaft Torque is not the Cause at all!

To answer the question you put forward, we must:

   1: Define what Energy is!
   2: Identify the Only Place this Energy can come from!
   3: Observe the phenomenon that gives rise to the Process of Voltage x Current deemed as 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second past point P, equaling One Ampere. Kinetic Energy, as the Great Nikola Tesla pointed out.


Einstein's Mass Energy Equivalence is what these people need to study! These people need to do a ton of Homework! Learn what Charge is, learn whats required for Charge to flow, e.g: A Conductor, and learn why Conductivity is so important!

1954, declassified: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhqMDMMgz0

Energy enters every System the same way, the Solution to the Source Charge Problem is the answer, but many are ignorant to whats really going on here!

There is NO MYSTERY to an educated mind!



Suppose for a moment (uh hum), time is the energy we are trying to
get to jump into our devices.  What I mean is, what if we play a little
trick with time.  We know electrical energy typically moves at about
one foot in one nanosecond.



Time is important, and the Domain we can gain Energy, is in the Time Domain, we can Gain Energy over the course of Time.



Now imagine if we do a little something
with our inductor where the same electrical energy has to be in two
places at exactly the same time.  Crazy aay?  But just for the sake of
grins let's suppose we have a mechanism to do this.  Then let's suppose
we can get the polarity correct in such a way we can power things
with it.  We can light LEDs, or we can charge a capacitor that keeps
things running.  Or, if we're having a really good day, we can do both.
And it's my suspicion, we have to do both.



On My Forum, we recently went through an example:

Quote from: Chris, Me link=http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/conservation-law-broken-on-evidence-of-excess-energy-with-a-capacitor-and-a-coil/?order=all#comment-056fe1ef-5807-4652-ad79-abae016d03a5

My Friends,

@Gravitation, YoElMiCrO has given you the worlds biggest gift!

We see:

Method of "Generation", Charge Separation.
Charge Pumping, Opposite Magnetic Fields.
And more...
 

YoElMiCrO is right, this is very important!





However if we use the above circuit we will see that the sum of the charges will exceed the initial load and as efficiency is (EndQ1+EndQ2)/StartQ1 AU is posible..

This says a lot, everyone start analyzing ...
Q = VcC = It.

 

The Charge on a Capacitor is: Q = C٠V

Where C is the Capacitance in Farads and V is Volts. Q is in Coulombs if Memory serves. So this means, 2200uF = ‭0.0022‬ Farads. Voltage on the Capacitor is 12 Volts at the start. The switch S1, when closed has an RLC Time Constant across the Tank Circuit. For series RLC circuit Time Constant is 2L/R and for parallel RLC circuit Time Constant is 2RC. This means after 1 t, the Charge on C2 can be more than C1!

Note the Similarity to Akula's Circuit! Everyone! This is important! We all have to work on this together! We must Share this with the World! We must make change for our Children and their Children!

Best wishes,

   Chris Sykes



Quote from: Chris, Me link=http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/conservation-law-broken-on-evidence-of-excess-energy-with-a-capacitor-and-a-coil/?order=all#comment-972e2d46-663e-4c0d-a73a-abaf00336695

My Friends,

I should have finished the Equation off!

The Charge on a Capacitor is: Q = C٠V

Where:

C is the Capacitance in Farads.
V is the Voltage in Volts.
Q is in Coulombs. 1 Joule (J) = 1 Volt X 1 Coulomb.
 

So this means, 2200uF = ‭0.0022‬ Farads. Voltage on the Capacitor is 12 Volts at the start.

As YoElMiCrO said:

StartQ1 = 0.0022‬ Farads x 12 Volts = ‭0.0264‬ Coulombs.

 

using the same process, if C1 and C2 ( EndQ1 + EndQ2 ), after 1 Cycle has: ‭0.0265‬ Coulombs, then we have an Above Unity Machine. More Energy Output than was Input!

NOTE: This is possible because we have an Open System, a System that has an Extra, Asymmetrical Energy Input to the System!

Best wishes,

   Chris Sykes



So, in the below Circuit, if you do the Experiment, and get the Coil Polarity correct, and find Resonance, then you can see a gain in Energy this way, as you point out DogOne!

Ask yourself, why have I only drawn one Polarity Dot? What happens to L1 during the Cycle?

Study the next Image down, ask: REACTIVE AT RESONANCE, what is meant by this?



If we take the optimistic perspective here that at least one of these
many OU devices we have all seen is real, how could it possibly
work?  I have a hunch the concept is actually very simple and the
technique to make it happen is what's killing us.




I agree, Understanding is Key, its the understanding of Processes, the Effects, Interactions of the Magnetic Fields, and I like to see optimistic used, I think that's great!

@Nelson, your comments and perspective here would be appreciated!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2020, 01:58:57 AM »
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« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2020, 11:57:04 AM »
An idea for understanding. I'm a member of Chris' own forum. But I am not a member of a closed elite group. Therefore, I can only add my own opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p828czPofw&feature=emb_logo

Similar idea.
http://zsiguli.hu/cikk/55

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« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2020, 12:23:22 PM »
Calculating with " ideal numbers" : in vacuum or in air/liquid ?

Only with one directional trapping coil ( ccw or cw) or bi-/multi-filiar(ccw and cw),their poles to load/charger/converter +/- connection  ?
C.O.P. numbers : kunel static dynamo C.O.P. 10 x / 10 Ampere-windings output: 1/1  ratio !

Can we assume that analog in photoelectric the recombination "time window" also in phonoelectic there is the existence from such a "time window", the wave/electron/ion to wire ( absorption or reflection) angle and refractory index number ?

Better to use rough surface coils,with high density ares ~ black silicon,than fine surface coils !Holes per sqmm coil ? Skin effect ! (Eigen-)Spin effect !

We take a DC motor with rotor/propeller/turbine and an AC generator with rotor/propeller/turbine :
                        = DC to AC inversion
Or we take a static device,called DC/AC converter = inverter 

the two rotative rotor/propeller/turbine are represented/transformed in .....   /by  ....... ?!
Flynn parallel path group : linear actuator to rotative actuator ! The used formula !


Richard Fradella : when a 1000 W generator with 1000 RPM nominal generates 1000 Watt then with 100 RPM this generator generates 1 Watt,each cases by ≥ 94% conversion efficiency !

Velocity of electricity in vacuum/in air ?

Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: taking away from the Sweet VTA the magnets and core :       

air coil and through this a laser beam or electro-magnetic beam  ;)

         ~ photon/phonon into a whole( in one) or white whole

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« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2020, 03:54:51 PM »
   Guys:   I believe that Nelson has a plan and a purpose for his thread. Without it being filled up and cluttered up with more off topic subjects.  There are other threads, for that. We are here for Nelson's ideas and tests.  At least I am.

   Nelson:  Thanks for your explanation concerning the self runner, that is not self running.
However, I'm still confused. Does that mean that the device runs for a little while (as shown on the video) once the power is cut off, and then stops once it used up it's reserved power? A simple Yes, or  No, would do for now.
   

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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2020, 07:17:47 PM »
Nelson High hope you are well.

Any chance you can explain to the guys here what a nano pulse is and why it is used
there does appear a good bit of confusion and contradictory beliefs and miss understanding.

Some say it's a falling transition and others say it's a rising transition
Others say it's the width of rising and falling pulse or is it inverted?

Thanks so much Raymondo  ;)

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« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2020, 06:27:33 PM »
Hi Chris ,
I appreciate your thoughts and I would one statement about what I think.

“Of course, this series of Magnetic Interactions in the proximity of the Conducting Coils, is important, of course Electromagnetic Induction occurs every time The Magnetic Field Changes in Time, or the Current Changes in Time in proximity to the Conductors.”

Electric current produces a magnetic field . But  Magnetic fields can also be used to make electric currents ,exist  a connection and mutuality between both .
we call current to the rate of flow of electric charges in a conductor or by example in a coil of wire .the higher the speed this charges can flow, the higher is the current, like the opposite happens when a magnetic field is accelerated, the current will increase too. This makes either the current in space or the magnetic field in time have reciprocity between them .
Our mind normalizes all motion to unit time this way a reduction in time is equivalent to an increase in space.

 It is also true, that the variation of an electromotive force, in space and time also generates a displacement current.
So a time-varying electric field also produces a magnetic field and vice versa. Thus, we can see that there is a symmetry between electric and magnetic field.
This is the point that i am most interested in exploring:) :
Displacement currents. That's my main reason for this project with bifilar pancakes coils.
When a pancake coil is exposed to a high electric field, depending on the dielectric materials that make it up, there is a polarization of those  materials, oriented their positive charges in the opposite direction to the negative ones, giving rise to a electric field and this yields an internal electric field inside coil ,Perhaps that is the reason for Tesla underline a voltage gain in these bifilar pancake coils.
The energy gap in the dielectric material's is very large and being the air a dialectic agent, we could theorize the possibility of exist a interaction between positive and negative ionic charges existing in the environment as a way to draw energy from outside to the coils.
Are those charges static?
Tesla mentioned in some of his quotes, about these charges not being static …
Was he referring to the Displacement currents?
Who will know?
A good theme to explore :)

Best Rewards

Nelson Rocha

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« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2020, 06:42:39 PM »
Nelson High hope you are well.

Any chance you can explain to the guys here what a nano pulse is and why it is used
there does appear a good bit of confusion and contradictory beliefs and miss understanding.

Some say it's a falling transition and others say it's a rising transition
Others say it's the width of rising and falling pulse or is it inverted?

Thanks so much Raymondo  ;)

Hi Raymondo ,
I think the vast majority most know what a nano pulse circuit consists of.
It is usually characterized by Short duration, fast rise time electromagnetic pulses . However, care must be taken when using these types of circuits, as they may cause irreversible damage to your health.
This type of circuit can even create cell mutations.
Take care

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« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2020, 07:48:22 PM »
   Guys:   I believe that Nelson has a plan and a purpose for his thread. Without it being filled up and cluttered up with more off topic subjects.  There are other threads, for that. We are here for Nelson's ideas and tests.  At least I am.

   Nelson:  Thanks for your explanation concerning the self runner, that is not self running.
However, I'm still confused. Does that mean that the device runs for a little while (as shown on the video) once the power is cut off, and then stops once it used up it's reserved power? A simple Yes, or  No, would do for now.
 

Hi Nick ,
I will answer you doubts without low details , but the enough for you to understand.

The circuit self-feedback that you talk , have a pre-charged capacitors;
 when i use the 9volts battery is only to start the electronic circuit system and to start the circuit control  after that the process of feedback has able to maintain the oscillations , and the circuit control system will start discharge in a "special way " those capacitors , but at same time, happens a process of "recycling" on the load on the output and that portion recyclable  is injected again in the input , ensure the operation of the control circuit, and recharge the capacitors in a loop.
The system can operate for a few minutes or even hours, depending on how it is used and the type of load used (inductive is the best) I designed to use in a motor .
This circuit was designed to have an external input, based on brake regeneration, or even a solar panel on the vehicle's roof to prolong the effect described.
The idea would be to increase the autonomy of an electric vehicle through this process that I described to you. In that time I work on that project the model granted by Daimler, was a Vito E-CELL .
It was a really interesting project but it is not an OU system.
I hope you have clarified it.
Because you are still involved in your project, by Kapanadze Cousin I'll share a bonus :) Make good use of it :)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/J6uVSprTRCjRBaie6


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« Reply #70 on: May 29, 2020, 11:50:02 PM »
Hi Chris ,
I appreciate your thoughts and I would one statement about what I think.

“Of course, this series of Magnetic Interactions in the proximity of the Conducting Coils, is important, of course Electromagnetic Induction occurs every time The Magnetic Field Changes in Time, or the Current Changes in Time in proximity to the Conductors.”

Electric current produces a magnetic field . But  Magnetic fields can also be used to make electric currents ,exist  a connection and mutuality between both .
we call current to the rate of flow of electric charges in a conductor or by example in a coil of wire .the higher the speed this charges can flow, the higher is the current, like the opposite happens when a magnetic field is accelerated, the current will increase too. This makes either the current in space or the magnetic field in time have reciprocity between them .
Our mind normalizes all motion to unit time this way a reduction in time is equivalent to an increase in space.

 It is also true, that the variation of an electromotive force, in space and time also generates a displacement current.
So a time-varying electric field also produces a magnetic field and vice versa. Thus, we can see that there is a symmetry between electric and magnetic field.
This is the point that i am most interested in exploring:) :
Displacement currents. That's my main reason for this project with bifilar pancakes coils.
When a pancake coil is exposed to a high electric field, depending on the dielectric materials that make it up, there is a polarization of those  materials, oriented their positive charges in the opposite direction to the negative ones, giving rise to a electric field and this yields an internal electric field inside coil ,Perhaps that is the reason for Tesla underline a voltage gain in these bifilar pancake coils.
The energy gap in the dielectric material's is very large and being the air a dialectic agent, we could theorize the possibility of exist a interaction between positive and negative ionic charges existing in the environment as a way to draw energy from outside to the coils.
Are those charges static?
Tesla mentioned in some of his quotes, about these charges not being static …
Was he referring to the Displacement currents?
Who will know?
A good theme to explore :)

Best Rewards

Nelson Rocha



Hey Nelson, completely agree, thus we have the Electro and the Magnetic to make Electromagnetic. The observation at 90 Degrees of the one, seeing either the Electro, or the Magnetic, depending on the 90 Degrees we choose.

Floyd Sweet spoke of Displacement Current, I also have Threads covering this topic. It is an interesting topic:

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According to Maxwell’s theory, the displacement current in vacuum can produce electromotive force on other coil. However, the displacement current in vacuum does not experience electromotive force from other coil. The asymmetrical electromotive forces result in nonconserved energy transmission between any two coils involving one piece of displacement current. In this work, we designed and performed the measurements for such effect. We observed the explicit evidences of non-conserved energy transmission between a toroid solenoid and a parallel plate capacitor. The measured energy increase is well predicted by the numerical estimation.





The Capacitor Plates do not need to be Capacitor Plates, they can be replaced by cleverly thought of Coils! See below image.

I see much resistance to what I am trying to share! It is very hard to trust anyone, but we must soldier on!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
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« Reply #71 on: May 30, 2020, 02:32:38 AM »
Attached below is a pdf of a flat coiled transformer arrangement I developed over several years stopping in 2016 which I termed MEI or Magneto Electric Induction.  The concept utilizes the distributed capacitance between physically close positioned flat coils and the performance speaks for itself.  This device is an extreme reactive-to-real converter and note the peak reactive input power on the Math(red) trace.  I would also point out the current to voltage phase angle as the device is basically a capacitive load, plus the power density for the physical size using the scope probes for comparison.

The input power is based on the 3MHz sine wave as seen on CH1(yel).  To effectively build this type of device for commercial OU use, this sine wave must be synthesized in a manner that would allow the negative energy portions of the waveform to be returned to the power source.  This is done today in any DC to AC inverter that will accommodate a reactive load but the frequencies are much, much lower.

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« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2020, 03:32:28 AM »
Hi Nick ,
I will answer you doubts without low details , but the enough for you to understand.

The circuit self-feedback that you talk , have a pre-charged capacitors;
 when i use the 9volts battery is only to start the electronic circuit system and to start the circuit control  after that the process of feedback has able to maintain the oscillations , and the circuit control system will start discharge in a "special way " those capacitors , but at same time, happens a process of "recycling" on the load on the output and that portion recyclable  is injected again in the input , ensure the operation of the control circuit, and recharge the capacitors in a loop.
The system can operate for a few minutes or even hours, depending on how it is used and the type of load used (inductive is the best) I designed to use in a motor .
This circuit was designed to have an external input, based on brake regeneration, or even a solar panel on the vehicle's roof to prolong the effect described.
The idea would be to increase the autonomy of an electric vehicle through this process that I described to you. In that time I work on that project the model granted by Daimler, was a Vito E-CELL .
It was a really interesting project but it is not an OU system.
I hope you have clarified it.
Because you are still involved in your project, by Kapanadze Cousin I'll share a bonus :) Make good use of it :)

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   Nelson:   Thanks for the download, I've saved it for future reference, as it is pretty long but interesting.   You know, after hearing your reply about how the feed back circuit works on that device. I thought, that it works basically the same as what I have. In the sense of feeding some of the output back to the input. Yet, I can not run mine for "hours", or even seconds before it kicks off. Yet, there is feed back power going back to the device's input, but, it is not enough to self sustain itself, as yet. However,   if I were to connect the output feed back loop of my device to two 12v batteries, @ 24v, that are also connected to the input, my device, also would self sustain. Similar to your system.  Until the batteries drained, like happens with your caps. Right?  So, what are we gaining, if fact?  Still no OU nor self running.
   Thanks for providing me with this info,  I do appreciate it. And I believe I understand it all, a little better, now.
   So, where do we go from here???
              NickZ

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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2020, 11:26:03 AM »
   Nelson:   Thanks for the download, I've saved it for future reference, as it is pretty long but interesting.   You know, after hearing your reply about how the feed back circuit works on that device. I thought, that it works basically the same as what I have. In the sense of feeding some of the output back to the input. Yet, I can not run mine for "hours", or even seconds before it kicks off. Yet, there is feed back power going back to the device's input, but, it is not enough to self sustain itself, as yet. However,   if I were to connect the output feed back loop of my device to two 12v batteries, @ 24v, that are also connected to the input, my device, also would self sustain. Similar to your system.  Until the batteries drained, like happens with your caps. Right?  So, what are we gaining, if fact?  Still no OU nor self running.
   Thanks for providing me with this info,  I do appreciate it. And I believe I understand it all, a little better, now.
   So, where do we go from here???
              NickZ
No ? Yes it looks confusingly interesting your a great asset Nelson. Raymondo

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Re: Nelson Rocha Devices
« Reply #74 on: May 30, 2020, 02:15:33 PM »
Bom dia,Senhor Rocha !


Uma decada antes eu lido sobre este inventor brasileiro Antonio Henrique de Macedo Lavigne no "1000inventions.org"

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926071315/http://1000inventions.org/

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=bra&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=lavigne&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


no 1000inventions era esposto o artigo/of(f)erta sobre este desenvolvimento


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=21&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20011113&CC=BR&NR=0001305A&KC=A


poupe se em material/numero de motores em uso na cuisina  e com uma bobinagem capacitiva tambem em energia




Talvez (so) uma visao


Adeus


OCWL


p.s.:
 aquando o estadio em Aveiro durante 95% do anno esta vazio e o Euro-Parque em Santa Maria da Feira mais ou menos em igual situacao isto nao da espaco para eventos de innovacao e desenvolvimento inter-/national,um slogan doa annos 70` :(De)S-Portugal e dos annos 90´ : Portugal-radical !

Ou sem "debitos eco-logicos/nomicos" implementar um

" parque 24/365 aberto de in-vencoes/novacoes", in situ= real
e  no cyberspace= virtual ,
 4d-lab factory ,free download-shareware-archiv :

digitizer photo to digits,C.N.C,C.A.D.,C.I.M./C.A.M.1 inch = 2,54 cm = 25,4 mm = 2540 pixels a 0,01 mm precisao : cloning/reproduction minimum limit

Comecar com os a(c)tuais  300 millions do PALOP ,ligacao internet,intercommunicacao barata e depressa

agua potavel ,arrefecimento de alimentacao/bebidas/medicamentos ,
Frio para armazenar( 3d foam dome- armazem printer )  alimentos saisonais  :
os agricultores podem ganhar mais / nao pressao de venda por qualquer preco


cada um  pode dar (ideias,material novo/usado) e cada um pode levar( plano 3d/schemata,pecas)

incluido escola/universidades/empresas/organos estatais -interligacao ! Inter-/nat-/ nac-ional

Recolha e transformao de electrodomesticos ? Optimizacao !?
Os journais "Journal de Noticias" e "Publico" tinham as vezes periodicamente artigos sobre innovacoes nacionais !

Eu lembre-me sobre um filtro para agua  em argila/barro da Universidade de Aveiro barato e efe(c)tivo,


sobre o sistema da construcao dum Engenheiro Santos chamado "interbloco"(medalha d´ouro da Organizacao Mundial e umas medalhas aureas mais de outras organizacoes ) produzido por a empresa Nefil em Mangualde : 100 sqm em 5 dias construido,2400 blocos a 125 Esc. cada !

Tenho ainds a pagina do magazin sobre o sistema  "interbloco" e tambem -por pedido- o catalogue dessa empresa !Construir casa em condicao economica como a WASP,Italia : em blocos ou 3d ! Barato e seguro !

Da empresa CAPA em Valongo/Distri(c)to Porto :A prototipagem ,depois do estudo,  da " casa modular" futura similar os objectos archive.org :  www.fabprefab.com
e do Ikea-challenge os "Polikatoikea"-ganhadores
 

2006/2007 com o Engenheiro Tiago Coelho eu tinha um encontro, nao muito longe da cidade Aveiro,nos arredores com um inventor portugues ,sobre dele era um artigo esposto num journal national , o objecto era : rebobinar motores com "capacitores" ! ;)   

O povo portugues nao e stupido ,mas muitas vezes o clima suave e a nao necessidade de trabalhar deixe o pessoal ser visto por outros como " pobre" ! ::)

O pais Portugal tem um contrato com a M.I.T. e por a camera luso-alema o norte e patrocinado por o " Freistaat Bayern/Baviera": aquando tal ajuda( compensacao ? ::) Levar os melhores studentes !?) esta em of(f)erta nao vale uma/duas/... penas a recusar innovacoes internacionais,talvez - por gratia- porque os inventores sao so desenvolver uma ideia velha e ja esposta oficial  ( nos archivos  ) e sem direitos e limtes com(m) erciais !

Aeroporto Beja : com 3000 Euros e mais custos/gastos  por mes de "Seniorenresidenzen/old peoples home/lar 3ra idade" na Europa-Central o Alentejo pode se transformar num "cocooning place" para os reformistas/pensionistas do norte !

A Costa Vi(n)centina est larga ! ;)
" Aldeias verdes " sob ideia Dante Bini ,integrado na paisagem,podem ser uma solucao win-win !

Nos Estados Unidos ha zonas aonde so pessoas de alta idade podem viver ,interdito jovens : zona Phoenix,Palm Springs  ,condominios fechados !
Multigeneration aldeias dao mais ganho a todos : dar e levar !Ao lado de communidades rurais ? "Leben /Urlaub auf dem Bauernhof/-Land" com todos Mega-City-Services  8) e inter-drones teleferique

Aviaons/planes/Flugzeuge from long cabin to UFO-round,P.M.-magazine 80' exposition,
start area anymore long piste:  Air carrier Hawk : vertical lifting/start ,helicopter like

70' :Radio (Telvisao) Luxemburg " Spiele ohne Grenzen"
2020- "Unvermindert Leben mit geringen Grenzen "
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