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Title: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on April 24, 2020, 12:52:38 AM


My Friends,

I started Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy (https://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/) back in January 2015. It was a success and Partnered Output Coils is now part of every serious Experiment today!

While some struggle, others report great success.

The biggest problem we had was, we could have done the release and Introduction with several hundred less pages on Stefan's Forum! Far too many trouble makers! Yes I could have handled myself a little better, but when one gets Attacked all the time, one tends to get a little defensive.

We Introduce: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group

Chet ( Ramset ) and I are the moderators. There will be opposition, there will be some that don't like being moderated, we will be fair, we will only moderate what we need to! We aim to keep the Trouble makers out and the Motivation High!

No one is twisting your Arm, you join in and participate if you want to! This is your Choice! If your not participating, then please refrain from posting. We want those that have experience posting and all here to help each other.

   1: Off Topic Posts will be deleted!
   2: Posts containing Harassment will be deleted!
   3: Slanderous Posts will be deleted!


I urge all interested parties, Gear Up, we are gonna break new ground! I will do the best I can to help others here! My Team must always come first however, but I am serious, I want every human being on the planet to have the opportunity to learn something amazing and simple!

   1: Input Coil - 10% Duty Cycle starting at about 3 Volts into 25 turns 1.2mm Wire.
   2: Secondary Coil - 70 - 200 Turns 0.8mm wire - Opposes the Primary, use the Right Hand Grip Rule.
   3: Tertiary Coil - 70 - 200 Turns 0.8mm wire - Opposes the Secondary Coil, Assists the Primary Coil, use the Right Hand Grip Rule.


Make sure you have nice clean switching on your Input Coil. You need a Voltage Source that you can turn up, this is important to see the effects.

I have coined a term: Delayed Conduction (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/delayed-conduction-in-bucking-coils/), I have many hundreds of very detailed articles on my Forum: http://www.aboveunity.com, please use the pages there for reference! Please use: Builders Guide to Aboveunity Machines (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/builders-guide-to-aboveunity-machines/) for extra help!

Remember: Greater than 90% of the time, your Input is Off, this means your Output should be Off, there is no way for your Output to be On is there - Well yes, this is where Science has no proper explanation for whats occurring! One of many gaping holes in Electromagnetics! Let me tell you something very important:

   1: The Change in Magnetic Field Creates a Voltage!
   2: The Opposition of Magnetic Fields Pumps Current!
   3: The term Magnetic Fields is Interchangeable with Current, as a Current is the same thing / Creates a Magnetic Field!


Your Coils must be Loaded at all times, or this will not work! It is advantageous to think: Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction!

We have a Historical Record to support Asymmetrical Regauging, as long as one can get the Potential, Voltage sufficiently high enough: I = V / R, then your machines will produce: Above Unity Results!

Don Smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qqQarHd74s



The MEG Team:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no50_5iSr2Y



Tinman:


It would seem that a bucking coil arrangement dose indeed add energy to a system. My test over the years have shown this to be true,but all my devices that use this arrangement are mechanical--E.G-,motors,generators.

EDIT BY CHRIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDFvKJCW9WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXaA0zlb-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioohhRyfHk



What-you mean like the below scope shot's?
First scope shot before the diode.
Second scope shot after the diode,and large cap removed.

EDIT: Below, see Before and after Diode.



Graham Gunderson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVhMu2FzSg



I have done a video series, to try to explain Partnered Output Coils, the effects, what to look for, how to solve problems and how to make the Coils Act and React together in an advantageous way!

   1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUemDvugl4I
   2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtTerstCxU
   3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlLiiIyUOw
   4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5RoEnmDrR4
   5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTr6dxD61uw
   6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIgo7pj9bY
   7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFo4dOW4UU
   8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUaLp0E2L3s
   9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_e_aU5loc
   10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwNiaEuUrg
   11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRduG2PNIgk



The Sawtooth Wave Form (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/the-sawtooth-waveform/) is the defining Energy "Generation" Waveform! Please, always keep this in mind! Think in terms of Energy "Generation"!

You need to think in terms of Symmetry vs Asymmetry! A Symmetrical System can Never Go Above Unity! Your System needs to be Asymmetrical, this is a requirement to be able to "Generate" excess energy beyond the Unity Boundary! Its worth Bench-Marking your machine in Transformer mode, making sure you have around 80% Efficiency at least. Then anything above the 80% mark you can verify, has entered the System beyond the Benchmark value!

As I have shown for many years, Partnered Output Coils must oppose, must Buck each other, there is a specific Polarity to this and the polarity needs to be right. Then you need to focus on the "Generation" Phase, and maximise that phase, remember: I = V / R, Ohms Law. Keep in the back of your head, nearly all the Energy "Generation" Phase is done when your Input is OFF! Thus the short Duty Cycle.

NOTE: Your Machine Pumps Current for almost 100% of the Cycle, but your Input is only on around 10%, or less, so > 90% of the Cycle, you have Energy Output, Energy Output when your Input is OFF, this is significant!

If you only take one thing from what I have posted, please take the following sentence:

Its all just an Understanding, think Asymmetry, forget Symmetry. The Magic happens when you break Symmetry! Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction!

I hope we get a good response from everyone! Good intentions bring forth Good Intentions, but also brings not so good Intentions, thus why we will Moderate. Please think twice before posting.

Please Remember: This is a Builders Group, if you are not building, then if you can make sure you only post useful, serious discussion, you think that would be helpful for others!

I would like to personally Invite Tinman to join us, that is if he wishes.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: stivep on September 27, 2020, 12:06:54 AM
O boy.
I was just trying to respond to your comment.
Dear Friend EMJunkie
When you mentioned video translation of  Akula ... made by me
and also another one  restricted to view I was puzzled with my own comment from 2013 about resonance in resonance.
____________________
some history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_FsBn2qxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_FsBn2qxk)
At first Stefanov( Stephanov) was trying to attract me with his not self powered device and due to lack of my interest he
decided to go to international show to Hamburg Germany.
While in Germany he  went across German Investor.
Shortly after that  news about  Akula self powered  device  were more attractive to the Investor and conflicting with  Stefanov plans.
Stefanov decided to visit  Akula and traveled from Russia to Kazakhstan.
Tiger from Kazakhstan was hired by Stefanov   to examine Akula's device .
Tiger was my close friend at that time.
In the meantime  Akula visited  Riga Latvia to make deal with the same Russian of Chocolate Factory owners who
made deal ( 32000 euro) with Tariel Kapanadze in 2010.
The same Russians were responsible for poisoning me and Tariel in 2011 in the airplane from Prague to Tbilisi.
Tariel eat 2 spoon as he was heavily drunk . He was unconscious for 3 days.
I was lucky to vomit by force.
I decided to  don't go to authorities - Tariel device was more important to me.
Russian bosses from  Moscow were disappointed, 
American was alive.

In  Riga Latvia Akula's device didn't work, but device of Ruslan from Riga Latvia was working fine.
Than Akula  went to Germany  and his device didn't work  there as well.
He called Tiger for help.
Tiger went to Germany.
But that didn't help .
Akula is said to be dead now.
______________________________


_______________________________
 
Interesting is that  wen you mentioned the Akula's restricted video that is in Russian only 
I realized that you must speak  Russian.
I have learned  Russian here in USA while employing Russian Scientists lazy enough  or to  limited so much
that  I had no other  choice but  find more about all of that Russian Russia and its science.
Today I'm so fluent that I can  fly with it.
___________________________
I was very disappointed finding  all of the BS. ,dirt, ignorance to scientific  values
and to all of other values ....(if I could find any not yet altered, bend, deformed values  left there.)
I may be wrong but for me  it is  just the biggest mafia style reality  ever created in modern  World.
______________________________
Can you  explain to me what your knowledge of Russian comes from?
=======================================


My original question was :
What the energy in your self powered devices  comes from?

I was not satisfied with your answer quoting me myself from 2013.
as my comment about resonance in resonance was  quoted by you without the link attached.

 In contrast to  you and your activity  I have no problem as of today to explain energy  origination
and energy conversion in Tariel Kapanadze  devices.
Tariel was lucky as well not being  poisoned sufficiently well by these  particular Russians.
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ  (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ)
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU  (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU)

________________________________
To make  my position clear:I want  you to know that I'm not against  you.
I have respect to you and every other Human being on this planet based on general rules of humanity value
despite their race, region, language,sexual or religious .. "whatsoever.."

But  having respect  to them doesn't mean that I like all of them and/or  I want to interact with them.
___________________________
In my videos I explained how energy is converted and used  based on Dr Corum and Viziv  patents/ experiments  analysis.
You didn't clearly  formulate  convincing  mechanism   of energy transfer.conversion and extraction.
No overunity  exist so with all due respect please  provide sufficient logical explanation


Wesley
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on September 28, 2020, 01:30:24 AM
Wesley with respect, and i'm sorry to but in, but I'm  not at all sure DR Curum's  info is just his definition of what he want;s to know.

However Mr Tesla and Mr Morey told us that not all electricity travels at the same speed ie different metals were wound on transformers
to achieve accelerated electron flow and in-pulse technology can also also produce longitudinal pressure waves that have accelerated
electron flow.

So if Tesla and Morey say and used accelerated electron devices why should we believe Dr Corum's hypothesis to be done and dusted ?

Therefor if it's possible to accelerate electron or ion flow then the extra energy wouldn't come from any where it would already be there and available.

Regards AG
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 28, 2020, 07:35:13 AM
Wesley with respect, and i'm sorry to but in, but I'm  not at all sure DR Curum's  info is just his definition of what he want;s to know.

However Mr Tesla and Mr Morey told us that not all electricity travels at the same speed ie different metals were wound on transformers
to achieve accelerated electron flow and in-pulse technology can also also produce longitudinal pressure waves that have accelerated
electron flow.

So if Tesla and Morey say and used accelerated electron devices why should we believe Dr Corum's hypothesis to be done and dusted ?

Regards AG






Hey AG,

Wesley has no idea what he is talking about!

A Free Electron, in Atomic Orbit, outer orbital, at rest in respect to the length of the Wire, yet we need 6.24 x 1018 Electrons / Second, past Terminal T1, to equal One Ampere, we know, acceleration is related to Mass and Force, we know: Force (N) = mass (kg) × acceleration (m/s²), we can use this equation, and rearrange: acceleration (m/s²) = Force (N) / mass (kg), to work out the Acceleration required, so this proves, some rant on with a bunch of total non-sense!

What is the Weight of One Ampere? Mass in Kg's: 0.00000000000568425534144 Kg's

The Electron MUST be Accelerated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs), Pumped!

Tesla said: Kinetic Energy (https://youtu.be/6xhqMDMMgz0), Not Static!

Akula: Correct
Wesley: Wrong


Quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXhI2hQawc

this is another the latest video of Akula as of today 10-16-2013.More about construction and tuning.He utilizes resonance in resonance phenomena his device  reacts as a pump, creating difference potential to the ground. While ground is trying to balance the difference the pump differential - load is being powered constantly and is  dissipating energy that is   induced in output coil. Output coil is inductively coupled to the differential pump circuit/

начало!  Роман Карноухов
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOopbo...



Quote from: Don Smith 1998 Office Interview Part 3 @3: 30" link="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPvRWevd9V0


Ah, the devices I have invented, which there are a number of them, they all, ah, actually, accelerate Electrons. They're Electron Accelerators.




Quote from: Floyd Sweet link=""http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Letter%20to%20Mark%20from%20Sparky.pdf


The current and voltage initiating fields are in such a direction to either accelerate or decelerate the rate of flow of charges depending on the applied polarity and voltage amplitudes.

As polarity may be maintained constant, that polarity of acceleration should be chosen so charges move at faster rates, lowering copper duty factor, at the same time opening the gates wider so more coherent field entities may enter for the conversion process.

It’s obvious, we have a self-regulation machine whose inherent conservation to the nth degree.





As you point out:

Quote from: T. H. Moray" link="http://www.free-energy-info.com/P26.pdf


An electrical generator is, in the true sense, not a generator, as it does not create electrical energy. Electricity is not made by the generator, it is merely pumped.

From that standpoint, an electric generator might be referred to as an electric pump and the Moray radiant energy device as a high-speed electron oscillating device.




Worth studding Einstein's Mass Energy Equivalence (https://stanford.library.sydney.edu.au/archives/spr2004/entries/equivME/#:~:text=According%20to%20Einstein's%20famous%20equation,of%20light%20(c)%20squared.) for more info.

Some people, you just cant tell! They already know better! That's why I am wasting my time here!

The self-proclaimed Hero's have greater knowledge than everyone else already!

It's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP74ML-ry8Q)

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 29, 2020, 12:36:55 AM
WHY IS ITSU MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT BITS OF INFORMATION???


https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3951.msg84490#msg84490


He has failed!

The most simple experiment, he has not listened to CaptainLoz and his recommendations, missed entirely the most important information! WHY??? WHY??? WHY???

Damn, Itsu is a good experimenter, but he misses all the important information! Damn Man! This is a common theme, did the same when I was trying to help him, ignored the information I was trying to provide, just ignored it completely!

What did CaptainLoz show you in the videos? Why are you missing ALL Of that stuff? Its important stuff!

List of Problems:

   1: Load is not sufficient: 6V 0.6 Watt again, listening to GuessaWatt and not realising, Loads in Parallel like I have already shown are important! GuessaWatt has No Idea what he is talking about!
   2: He has no idea the Length of his Coils!
   3: Waveform is not even close!
   4: More comments about total non topic related content than important stuff!
   5: He has less than a basic Transformer Efficiency, indicating Polarity is wrong!
   6: They cant seem to grasp this is a Magnetic Field Related Machine, not Electric Field, they are going about this entirely wrong!
   7: They are investigating 1 Ohm and 10 Ohm resistors in Circuit, introducing massive Circuit Impedance! Something we have warned against!
   8: You need a Specific Current to make this work! di/dt Magnetic Field!
   9: They just are not following the very BASIC Rules laid out by Myself and CaptainLoz! Very disappointing indeed!


I told you! You can NOT Build these machines unless you gain the basic UNDERSTANDING First! Without this understanding, you are never going to be able to do it!

Study the meaning of the Words in this Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytI7T15zzok

This is SO SIMPLE, yet deliberately, the most important, already given, and documented, important points are MISSED! This is a MAGNETIC FIELD Transformer in Asymmetrical Configuration:

ACTION, REACTION and COUNTER-REACTION


I predict, this information will go entirely missed, not a single bit will be utilised or incorporated!




...






@Verpies:

The Input Coil Simulates Rotor Rotation. di/dt Time Rate of Change!

The Partnered Output Coils, are the Rotor Coil and Stator Coil, each Oppose! MUST Oppose! V = -N dphi/dt, or -N di/dt/dt, they are the same thing! You Need V, for I: V  / R = I with not enough Voltage, you have nothing!

You're a Smart Bloke, so please do this properly! Electromagnetic Induction 101. Partnered Output Coils must be in Resonance, Magnetic Resonance. Currents 180 Degrees Out of Phase!

This must be an Asymmetrical Process, Energy is gained over Time, it is in the Time Domain we see a Gain in Energy!

The Input Coil needs to be off at peak Voltage, then send Current back to your Source:

Please confirm you understand this simple analogy.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: Sorry, I took offence to the other post, until I saw it was on the wrong thread. I have removed those posts.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: stivep on September 29, 2020, 05:23:06 PM
Dear  readers and Dear  EMJunke
-----------------------------------------
As this post  is  in moderated  part of forum I'll keep copy of my  posting  separately.
__________________________________
After EMJunke  deleted everything my comment was  the very first  ever  posted   here.   
I was talking about  values, respect, etc.

https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg551181/#msg551181 (https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg551181/#msg551181)
But my original question was :


What the energy in your self powered devices  comes from?


__________________________________________


Dear  EMJunke:
You don't want to be called  any of the names listed below:

- Russian Troll (  paid  by Russian Propaganda)


- lair,


- magician
- money maker   the misinformation  fake  FE platform  builder


- delusional, self-deficient,
narcissistic case of  Cognitive impairment ,



 I don't call you with any  of the names, .
I don't think there is a proven base  for it.
I don't think this is appropriate at the present time.
__________________________________________


But to be clear :
I'm pointing at that
what I don't like or don't understand about you.
Please enlighten me,

- why did you bury my #1here comment with  bunch of old  postings?
- why are you throwing  bunch of equations, pictures  in response to simple  question.


THE ENERGY IN YOUR SELF-POWERED  FREE ENERGY  DEVICES COMES FROM WHERE?
Please  provide the answer  in  listed below format:


1.format of answer:
           based on laws of conservation of energy :
           energy can not  be created no destroyed .
format of answer:
Quote
My EMJunke device takes  energy (In) in form of ..... from ...........than converts this energy from .... and in form of ...... to .... form of energy.

2. this form of energy in My EMJunke
device is processed  and
delivered into the  load  in form of........




3.
approximated  initial energy  E (In) to output energy  E (Out)  efficiency is:
Final Statement:
My EMJunke device doesn't violate laws of physics
because........( please provide  explanation)



Quote
From Wesley To EM Junke
My respect  and community respect, and science respect can be yours and
 I may help you to become wealthy , known and powerful.
I don't need your know-how  secrets.


Just convince me that you are not just like a simple piece of Russian  currency - ruble  devastated by degradation  of all values.   


Wesley
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 29, 2020, 10:56:47 PM
...






I do not desire Wealth!

I do not desire Power!

I do not desire Fame!

I desire, Evolution of Human Beings, Unite, Help each other, Love and Care for one another, the Exact Opposite of the behaviour on this Forum! Before you all Destroy Each Other in a Flaming mess of Nuclear Fall Out!

You are all so destructive! Today, you sit on the Precipice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGXuSyil37o), will you change and Survive, or go the way of the Dinosaur?

My Work is shared under Public Domain (https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/public-domain/welcome/#:~:text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Cpublic%20domain%E2%80%9D%20refers,one%20can%20ever%20own%20it.), Free for Every Human Being under Fair Use! Can not be Patented! Can not be IP Righted! Free for all!

I wish you could be serious on a serious matter!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times!
   Chris Sykes

Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 29, 2020, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Partzman link="https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3951.msg84534;topicseen#msg84534"

Itsu,

I posted this at OUdotcom and will post here as well as it may be of interest-

All,

For those who might wish to replicate CaptainLoz's [CL] video #9, I have some info that is my opinion based on Chris's own words, scope pix, etc, that will perhaps help[ in your replication.

The POC schematic shown below is from Chris himself and is basically incorrect based on his scope pix of his secondary currents.  Using standard dot notation, if a positive voltage pulse is applied to L1 as he shows with the dot end being more positive than the non-dot end,  the dot ends of L2 and L3 will have a more positive voltage than the non-dot ends thus forcing the diodes D1 and D2 into conduction thereby forcing current to flow in L2 and L3 during the time that L1 is charging.  This is not in agreement with his scope pix which show that L2 and L3 conduct current during the collapse phase of L1.  This means the diodes D1 and D2 need to be reversed in order for this to be correct.  When both L2 and L3 conduct during the collapse phase of L1, Chris refers to this as the POCs are "slapping" together.  He also refers to the rising edge of the L2 L3 current waveforms as an "asymmetrical regauging" process!

The energy in L1 that is built during it's charging phase or time, must be discharged back to the power supply.  This means you must use a full or 3/4 bridge driver circuit.  A 3/4 bridge driver simply replaces the upper conduction mosfet for the side of the bridge that returns the energy from L1 to the supply with a Schottky diode.

You could also wind L1 as a bifilar coil and then one half of the bifilar would be used for the charging phase using a single low side mosfet, then use the other half of the bifilar for the return path to the supply with again a Schottky diode.  One must observe the dot convention for this to work.  The disadvantage to this latter method is the relatively large inter-winding capacitance created will produce higher frequency harmonics in L1.

Chris mentions resonance.  This could be in many different forms and Chris never reveals exactly which type of resonance he means.  So, we must take hints that he gives from CL's attempted replication and that is, the wavelength of the operating frequency is some fractional part of the length of wire used in the secondaries.

And referring to the pix below of Chris's bucking coils, this configuration works with a series connection as shown.  However, if a standard coil is center tapped with the start and finish wires connected together, we now have two paralleled coils that when driven between the tap and the start/finish, will also be bucking.  I mention this because of the need to carefully observe if L2 and L3 are truly bucking when they conduct under the above rules.

It is understood from Chris's videos that L1 is wound over say L2 for relatively tight coupling.  L2 is then used to drive the load while L3 has only the diode for conduction of current.  The duty cycle of the input pulse to L1 is typically ~10% but could vary depending on the build.

In the CL video #9, he places the output resonating across the diode.

And again sounding like a broken record, please use the maximum vertical deflection possible on your scope for all waveforms.

Also, anybody that is using the same Rigol scope as CL, please check to see if the Math result is in avg or rms and/or is selectable!

Regards,
Pm

PS:  Chris, please feel free to correct any of the above with DATA not stupid remarks!







Partzman,

If I were you, I would stop trying to correct, and follow the basic layout!



None of this is Hard! None of this is Complicated! All of this is Easy!



Each Partnered Output Coil carry's a Current due to Electromagnetic Induction, each is the others Primary Coil - So claiming I am incorrect is Wrong! You need to follow basic well known rules here!


Study Carefully:

Quote from: Floyd Sparky Sweet link="http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Nothing%20is%20Something.pdf"

The principle of superposition states that; "In order to calculate the resultant intensity of superimposed fields, each field must be dealt with individually as though the other were not present". The resultant is obtained by vector addition of each field considered singularly. Consider for a moment the construction of the triode which includes the bifilar coils located within the fields of the two conditioned magnets.

When the current in one half of the conductors in the coils (i.e., one of the bifilar elements in each coil) of the device is moving up, both the current and the magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

The  resultant motional E-field would be vertical to both and inwardly directed.

At the same time the current in the other half of the conductors in the coils is moving down and both the current and magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

The resulting motional E-field is again vertical to both and inwardly directed.

Thus, the resultant field intensity is double the intensity attributable to either one of the set of coil conductors taken singularly.

Expressed mathematically:

E = ( B x V ) + ( -B x -V ) = 2 ( B x V )




Now, Study Carefully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsKoAu_X25A



...






@Verpies:

The Input Coil Simulates Rotor Rotation. di/dt Time Rate of Change!

The Partnered Output Coils, are the Rotor Coil and Stator Coil, each Oppose! MUST Oppose! V = -N dphi/dt, or -N di/dt/dt, they are the same thing! You Need V, for I: V  / R = I with not enough Voltage, you have nothing!

You're a Smart Bloke, so please do this properly! Electromagnetic Induction 101. Partnered Output Coils must be in Resonance, Magnetic Resonance. Currents 180 Degrees Out of Phase!

This must be an Asymmetrical Process, Energy is gained over Time, it is in the Time Domain we see a Gain in Energy!

Please confirm you understand this simple analogy.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: Sorry, I took offence to the other post, until I saw it was on the wrong thread. I have removed those posts.





My Diagram is correct, change it, it wont work! Period!

Each Coil has a Magnetic Field Changing in Time, this is directly related to the Changing Current! di/dt, you all should know this already!

Electromagnetic Induction can occur more than once in a Single Machine! That's why This statement was made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4nUEsBer8

If your Partnered Output Coils do not Oppose, you have it wrong! Period!

Again I define Magnetic Resonance: Each Current, in each Partnered Output Coil, is 180 Degrees out of Phase - Simple! Antenna Theory is the same basic Rules!



You must stop trying to change things! It will not work if you change things! This is so Simple! Yet so easy to balls it up! Only if you don't follow the basic, simple, straight forward Rules already laid out!

Shown below, when you have this all correct, the Input Power sent back to your Power Supply, can be greater than the Input Power Sent to the Coil! Input can become Negative!

I am not posting on overunityresearch, I don't like that forum! I only post on My Forum (http://www.aboveunity.com/) and sometimes here.

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: Don't change anything! Follow the VERY Simple rules Loz and I have already laid out! What's your Coil Length? Know this yet?

Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 30, 2020, 12:04:39 AM
EMJunke you posted  nonsense but no answer to my question  in format listed below:



THE ENERGY IN YOUR SELF-POWERED  FREE ENERGY  DEVICES COMES FROM WHERE?
Please  provide the answer  in  listed below format:
Because

1.based on laws of conservation of energy : energy can not  be created no destroyed .than: I'm not sure if he understands a question?
Quote
My EMJunke device takes  energy (In) in form of ..... from ...........than converts this energy from .... and in form of ...... to .... form of energy.
2. this form of energy in My EMJunke device is processed  and
delivered into the  load  in form of........
3. approximated  initial energy  E (In) to output energy  E (Out)  efficiency is:
Final Statement:
My EMJunke device doesn't violate laws of physics because........( please provide  explanation

Wesley






Wesley, go away and stop wasting others Time!

I told you, I don't want money! I don't want Power! I don't want Fame, so go away!

Stop posting nonsense that you can make me rich and powerful! Its not what I want! Post now edited? Offer still there. I have a full copy.

   EMJ
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: verpies on September 30, 2020, 01:59:30 AM
Sorry, I took offence to the other post, until I saw it was on the wrong thread.
I did not notice that you did.  I am much better at readings scopes than people.

I have removed those posts.
Good. They were only polluting this thread.

The Input Coil Simulates Rotor Rotation.
I think you assume that I have been following this development for a long time. I have not been.
I just came to this forum yesterday, after not posting for over a year, because of Itsu's replication attempt.

Because of this, I do not know what rotor you are referring to. Was there a mechanical rotor in some earlier incarnation of this device?
I also do not know what is the name of this device and who started/invented it and who is replicating it on this forum.  Because of this I will ask you a lot of annoying questions about this device.

As far as the rotor goes, are you referring to the dΦ/dt (magnetic flux's rate of change) penetrating a certain area (or surface) caused by the movement of a hypothetical mechanical rotor with a permanent magnet attached?
What about the changes in the direction of the magnetic flux, which would be generated by a movement of a mechanical rotor with a permanent magnet attached?

di/dt Time Rate of Change!
di/dt should be called the electric current's rate of change.
The "time" is already implied in the phrase "rate of change". Am I correct that the phrase "Time Rate of Change" was a typo ?

The Partnered Output Coils, are the Rotor Coil and Stator Coil, each Oppose! MUST Oppose!
I agree that the direction of currents induced in two coils wound in the same direction over the same magnetic path must oppose when one coil is the driver and the other one is the sensor of the linked magnetic flux.
But do you mean the same thing?

For example your disagreement with Partzman leads me to believe that you are talking about the direction of current while he is talking about the polarity of the applied and induced voltage according to the dot convention.
It would help if you associate the L1, L2, L3 designators with the monikers "Rotor Coil", "Stator Coil", etc..., on the diagram which you had attached.

V = -N dphi/dt, or -N di/dt/dt, they are the same thing! You Need V, for I: V  / R = I with not enough Voltage, you have nothing!
I cannot agree with the word "nothing" in this context.  However, I could agree with the statement "...with not enough voltage, you have not enough current (or magnetic flux)".
This of course provokes the question: "Why is more current or flux needed?"  Is it to push some ferromagnetic material into its non-linear region?
If the answer to the latter question is "yes", then indeed Itsu's 5VP-P input waveform will not generate enough current and flux for that to happen.

Electromagnetic Induction 101. Partnered Output Coils must be in Resonance, Magnetic Resonance.
Which ones are the "partnered coils" on the schematic? Is it L2 and L3 ?  Sorry to be so dense but I like to be certain.

Also, Magnetic Resonance is not an Electromagnetic Induction 101 term. That chapter deals only with an Inductor-Capacitor (LC) Resonance.
Chapter 102 deals with transmission line resonance, where a pulse or CW wave becomes reflected from an open or short end of a transmission line and comes back to interfere with itself.
Then in Chapter 103 there is some mention of Ferroresonance, which is never properly explained.
And the entire Chapter 104 is about Nuclear Magnetic resonance, where the atomic spin axes are made to precess coherently by an alternating magnetic field (or acoustic vibration) and store this energy as they precess in a constant magnetic field.
Finally, Chapter 105 is about electron spin resonance in similar magnetic fields.


So pardon me for asking, which chapter do you have in mind when you write the phrase "Magnetic Resonance" ?

Currents 180 Degrees Out of Phase!
I guess that eliminates the LC resonance from Chapter 101 as a possibility, because the voltages and currents in this type of resonance approach being 90º out of phase at most.

This must be an Asymmetrical Process, Energy is gained over Time, it is in the Time Domain we see a Gain in Energy!
OK, but this is new physics and there isn't a chapter written about it yet.

Please confirm you understand this simple analogy.
You are asking for it like a typical genius, using so many mental shortcuts that are simple and obvious to you, but not necessarily to you audience.
I cannot answer that at this time. Perhaps I will be able to after you reply to all my sentences that end with a question mark.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on September 30, 2020, 02:33:49 AM
...






@Verpies,

I am going to keep this short, so forgive me. I agree with all you said, di/dt I know is the same as Time Rate of Change, d = Delta or: Δ. Delta of I or Current, 0 - 3 Amps: 3 Amp Delta over time, 0 - 1 second, or a 1 second Delta. The same. I write for those that may not know the difference.

Gold Coils are L2 and L3. Partnered Output Coils. Yes polarity matters.

Magnetic Resonance, Magnetic meaning di, in L2 and L3 over Time dt, are equal and Opposite. Antenna Theory is the same. I believe ESR has the same basic characteristic. I have covered this on 3 occasions now, there is no need to complicate what is not complicated.

Its not hard to see, Science has gaping holes, especially in Electromagnetic induction and related theory!

I agree, Thread Pollution, not wanted!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on October 01, 2020, 12:37:40 AM

Haven't any of you raised any children?  The easiest way to stop a child that is in the habit of throwing tantrums is to just ignore him or her.  Then they get tired of not getting any attention and stop with the antics.  Or in this case will probably just go away.  As long as we keep posting about Chris and his antics he is getting the attention he wants.  If we stop he will get bored and go away.  I stopped reading his posts long ago when I realized he had nothing to offer.  Don't waste your time reading his posts or responding and he soon will go away.  Or at least you can concentrate on more important things than an egomaniac that is starved for attention.







Do you all read this, what a diabolical mess! This guy is writing about himself by the sounds of it!

I don't want attention, lets be straight, 7 of 10 posts on this forum are about me! All complaining about me, and how I do things is not suitable for them, boo hoo... This is the second time in days we have seen this bad behaviour from this guy! Actually, third time I believe, I ignored a post from him because its just a diabolical mess!

Can you believe these people get way with this behaviour! This is how they get through life! Like Super Cry Babies!

Let me be straight, 38 pages of completely useless, Diabolical Mess, Clown Antics are not here! I delete everyone else's silly, stupid Antics, its over at the rant asylum (https://overunity.com/18617/rant-caffe-asylum/)! The Clown Haven! Where all the badly behaved Clowns hang out!

Currently 38 pages of NOTHING! Complaining and Crying, Wingeing and Shillery, Disinformational Diabolical Mess, representing Stefan and his forum, I would ban the lot of you!

Some people never stop with stupid behaviour do they!

   EMJ


P.S: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-NdehdZfc


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Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on October 01, 2020, 11:00:22 PM
...






Breaking the Mold of the Diabolical Behavior we have seen here over the years, requires a new approach, for example, when one knows the Play Book of the Trolls, one must change the game, install a new Play-Book, one in which the Trolls can not win! One that only makes then appear to be Trolls in-front of the population, simply by exposing them, or getting them to expose themselves! Which is extremely easy to do!

Troll Tactics have been so see through for decades, its not hard to see what they do to stifle Truth! They start by discrediting the person coming forward, then selectively choose bits of work to attack and then call "Measurement Error". Then they can make the work and that person go away very fast and everyone follows then, thinking wow these people are Guru's when they are not!

Here is an example: Google the Names of those that Call measurement Error and look at their credentials and the data they used to Call Measurement Error (https://www.google.com/search?q=Measurement+Error+site%3Aoverunity.com%2F&rlz=1C1GCEU_enAU824AU824&oq=Measurement+Error+site%3Aoverunity.com%2F&aqs=chrome..69i57.18185j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8).

99% of this has been done erroneously and with insufficient Data to accurately call Measurement Error.

Do you see why I have now done what I have done? Do you see why we must be smart about doing what we do? Do you see, a great deal of 'Friends' here are truly not your Friends!

Do you see why 7 of 10 posts on this Forum are about me now? Do you see what they are trying to do, but failing immensely!

Those that make the most noise, you know the rest!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2020, 11:33:41 PM
Nobody is discrediting anybody coming forward !




Asking for help is not discrediting ?


Language barriers and lack of Genius
Probably play some part?


Captain loz please help itsu !!




Edit for comment below
When it comes to saving lives
Which this tech would have done the last
10 years


You have not seen noise yet !!


And your indifference and finger pointing
Grew old 5 years ago!!


The world needs this
Lives depend on it
And always have!!


Captain loz Please help itsu !!






Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on October 01, 2020, 11:44:03 PM
Nobody is discrediting anybody coming forward !




Asking for help is not discrediting ?


Language barriers and lack of Genius
Probably play some part?


Captain loz please help itsu !!







Quote from: Emjunkie


“”Some here are so DUMB!
 They are


NAZI Troll Shills,


so dumb they don't even know they are working for the


Nazi Party!


Clown Idiots!


Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
    Chris Sykes””

 [/font]

This kind of post from EMJ
Is typically removed before reported to admin on his moderated
Topics ( game he plays like infant)
100’s similar over the years
And many ,much ,much worse 


@Lanca
If you could provide more info ?
Is it as simple as Chris “solid state ““10 minute build “
“With few dollars in parts “


There is one build on bench of itsu
(Well two actually... his NMR Smudge
Replication too
 ( with help from Conrad
And Verpies and.....?maybe more will
Help when it’s open source like this?


However
Captain loz first time ever shared COP 2 gain
Replication of Chris solid state “one unit
In “”two units out” aboveunity” claim!


The world desperately needs this !!
Now more than ever !!


This would have saved millions of lives this last decade
Read Stefan’s mission statement above!


Yet Here the builders struggle ?


Perhaps when others start to replicate at aboveunity forum ?
They too can help open source this solid state super simple COP2
Claim
https://overunity.com/18638/captainloz-replication-discussion/msg551468/#new (https://overunity.com/18638/captainloz-replication-discussion/msg551468/#new)

PLEASE
Enuff games !!
We need this yesterday!!( 10 years ago


Ps
Lanca
If I don’t see you again
Was nice knowing you
(Might get banned for telling
Truth here








AG is Correct, in part!

The Mass of the Coils is something that would be nice, to be the same, 100 turns of 1mm wire, should be equal to 4 turns of 10mm wire, x = y in Mass.

Basically, Resistance/Impedance of the Wire, is what this comes down to. Ask why? Why do we need to look at the Coil Impedance? What's the Delta of the Coil if Impedance Changes by 3?

This is not critical, but it is desired!

Tariel Kapanadze had the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7bOBKN9qA0

AG, you have many more answers than you may realise!

Best wishes,
   EMJ



Another riddle?

To buy time! Pretending that you know?

And you want to help humanity? Open source?

This is not only boring, but disgusting!


You will fall one day, big time.





Another riddle?

To buy time! Pretending that you know?

And you want to help humanity? Open source?

This is not only boring, but disgusting!


You will fall one day, big time.



Why change the habit of a life time ?

Why not Stop blaming others and make your your own way in life
before it be comes a real problem.






In the light of evidence, it is denied, well well... Again, those that make the most noise...

Itsu, will not succeed, unless he follows what Loz gave him and does an Accurate Experiment!

You can see, the Clownathon grows and Grows! Most here have Zero drive to help others, in point of fact, they try harder and harder to discredit others making progress!

   EMJ





Quote from: Tesla Coil Design, Construction and Operation Guide link=http://www.teslacoildesign.com/design.html


The length of the secondary coil is used to calculate the wire weight. In the past it was thought that the secondary coil wire length should match the quarter wave length of the Tesla coil's resonate frequency. However, it has since been determined that it's unnecessary.



Quote from: Tesla Coil Geometry and Cylindrical Coil Design link=http://www.am-innovations.com/tesla-coil-geometry-and-cylindrical-coil-design/

From further investigation by others, notably Dollard[5,10], where the density of the conductor in the primary and secondary is the same, (e.g. for a primary and secondary both with copper as the conductor), equal volumes of the conductors can be considered equivalent to equal weights of the conductors, and has been found to apply best when working at lower frequencies where the skin effect does not have a significant effect on the impedance of the conductor, e.g. when working with normal copper or aluminium conductors at a frequency < 3000kc. At higher frequencies where the skin-effect can dominate the impedance of the conductor, balancing the bounding conditions for the two fields of induction can be better accomplished by equal surface area of the conductors.



But I don't expect Super Numpty Clowns here to know any of this stuff, only the smart people! Yep, exposing people here as the Trolls they are!

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Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: hartiberlin on October 02, 2020, 04:48:36 AM
For new articles about this  topic,please go to Chris´s own forum at:
http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/partnered-output-coils-1/
Thanks.Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on July 21, 2021, 10:27:46 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeEnergy/comments/nz0xj7/zeroseparator/
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: ramset on July 21, 2021, 05:46:18 PM
Alan
Seems you have done a lot of work here
And sharing openly!!


Will be sure to pass along to the open source community/builders !


With gratitude
Chet K
Ps
I have to admit the Reddit host is annoying ( can’t read on phone unless I sign up for app ( pc is ok), however
Your contribution is intriguing!
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: partzman on July 21, 2021, 06:13:14 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeEnergy/comments/nz0xj7/zeroseparator/

Alan,

As is pointed out in the article accompanying the simulation, with a K factor or coupling of 1,  there is no separation of the the L1 and L2 windings.  Therefore there is zero buck inductance and the coils for all practical purposes are one.  If the coils occupy the same space at the same time, the energies shown in the sim perfectly cancel with no remaining source to draw extra energy from. 

As we know, a perfect coupling or K factor of 1 is impossible to achieve in the practical word apart from a simulation.  A tightly wound bifilar coil would typically have a K factor of .94-.96.

Regards,
Pm

Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on July 21, 2021, 06:24:33 PM
It's NOT my work btw :D
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on July 28, 2021, 03:17:14 AM
Here's an old POC(will update with better schematic,  my L3 connection is backwards in drawing) I made and came back to after getting a better understanding of circuits, impedance,  and the reaction of my coils, etc... still have a ways to go. But this setup is very simple, if anyone can give me a better way of checking my results(proper measurements etc.) or if I got it wrong,  point me in the right direction. I've learned alot following Chris's work, and direct hints(tho most are looking for him to make it work for them or explicit explanations of what to do in each case. Tho he's already gave them). There is still ALOT I haven't looked at that could possibly improve results(check L1 for resonance, changing loads, etc...) Any tips appreciated, will update with coil specs soon.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on July 29, 2021, 01:47:48 AM
Updated pic, L3 still backwards, but pic of core above is correct. I was shooting for the 3.5watts the bulb is rated for, and used Don Smith's formula (cps=Volt amps * C)-think that's right- to get frequency needed. Tho, may not be applicable but actual frequency is about equal to: sqrt(((3.5watt/400pF)/20))) = 20.916khz. Random typing in calc. I'm sure my measurements are off, but it's a good start. Last pic is with probes behind diodes to see waveforms.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on July 29, 2021, 02:14:19 PM
Other interesting waveforms, showing 180° phase shifts along with sawtooth output.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: partzman on July 29, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
Other interesting waveforms, showing 180° phase shifts along with sawtooth output. Last pic is without C1

AU,

Could you please resize your attachments to fit the typical screen size.  Usually 800 pixels in width does just fine.

It is extremely difficult to follow along!

Pm
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on July 30, 2021, 01:18:00 AM
Resized, sorry dont have time to get on computer, just posting from phone, lemme know if you can make those out.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: partzman on July 30, 2021, 01:46:12 AM
Resized, sorry dont have time to get on computer, just posting from phone, lemme know if you can make those out.

Yes, that is better!

Pm
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on August 02, 2021, 07:12:49 PM
Same setup using half bridge tho, you see the current rise in 10% and work done the other 90.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 03, 2021, 01:10:30 PM
You need to take the duty cycle and means into account when  calculating average power, peak powers don't compare.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on August 03, 2021, 04:11:10 PM
Duty cycle is about 8%, mean voltage = 60v, mean current = 36mA for last pic, duty is 10% and mean values shown on scope.  Unless im missing something?
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 03, 2021, 04:28:13 PM
15v x 0.06a = 0.9w only for continuous DC. At Tdc = 10%, 10% of the period is 0.9w, 90% is 0w, 100% period is 0.09w average (Ppeak x Tdc/Tperiod), because you want to know power over continuous time, not per period or peak.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on August 03, 2021, 07:17:06 PM
Sorry you lost me. Are you only referring only to the input power? Not sure what ur trying to explain.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 03, 2021, 08:52:47 PM
How do you calculate power in & out of such signals?
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on August 04, 2021, 03:13:31 AM
P = VI; both input and output are dc, I haven't tried different power supplies,  I know the display of the boost converter isnt entirely accurate, but used it to find best output for lowest current draw. The output, I am taking the mean values V x I. Still, learning tuning, trying diff configs, not alot of time. If interested I'll put scope on L1, or measure in a more accurate way. Willing to try any suggested configurations, that'll improve my understanding...
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on August 04, 2021, 10:18:50 PM
It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 05, 2021, 01:29:26 PM
Mean values is correct  to use for continuous power calculation and measurement
Frequency of what exactly?  It must be determined on paper, so one know what one's doing.

Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: kolbacict on August 05, 2021, 02:24:35 PM
And what, in this device, someone has achieved any success?
I tried this, it didn't work for me.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 05, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
it must have the effect of a battery after the duty cycle. During duty cycle the input coil must create a potential on both output coils, after duty cycle mutual Lenz will try to sustain the collapsing flux by inducing current through the coils which sustains mutual Lenz induction, so the flux decays slowly, I wonder if the decay can be slowed down by using liquid nitrogen so it becomes a super conductor comparable to quantum levitation.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on August 05, 2021, 07:56:50 PM
It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL

I used an old discarded 2" by 2" Elac recvovered core and wound it with the 30ft & 30 ft L1 and L2 at oposite
ends with a 1/4 wave primary using 4 strands of 7.5 ft of same primory wire.

Note tuning is critical around 211 khz on this set up

driving it with a SG thus colecting each 1/4 wave peaks it gives a nice sine wave peek at the output that
disapears under any load  ;D ;D

It makes a good junk box filler ! Sil
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: EMJunkie on August 05, 2021, 10:52:43 PM
This thread was supposed to be locked (http://"https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg551494/#msg551494") also, seems the agreement was broken again?


For those that are interested, your Partnered Output Coils need to do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BeFoz3Ypo4


The Magnetic Field Pumps Electrons from the Source, the Atom, accelerating them down the wire. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs


Partnered Output Coils are the exact same analogy as an Electric Generator, the difference is we have no motion, we are Solid State, di/dt is the catalyst!

Output Voltage is "Generated", Antenna Theory is the best way to think about your Terminals:

See below Image, Where L is the Voltage Amplitude on your Output Terminals in Time t.


AlienGray is correct:

It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL


Input must be 1/4 Wave, Output must be 1/2 Wave, where V is at Maximum at Resonance! Some are smart enough to make this work, some just dont want to! Yes, one can use Harmonics...

https://www.aboveunity.com is back up and running after many hundreds of hours solving problems and much money spent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9SJ8vLNk8


Best Wishes,
   Chris Sykes
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on August 05, 2021, 11:38:41 PM
it must have the effect of a battery after the duty cycle. During duty cycle the input coil must create a potential on both output coils, after duty cycle mutual Lenz will try to sustain the collapsing flux by inducing current through the coils which sustains mutual Lenz induction, so the flux decays slowly, I wonder if the decay can be slowed down by using liquid nitrogen so it becomes a super conductor comparable to quantum levitation.
Yea, I barely got the hang of this, but my next step was going to blow it up in a hologram(real time), and find the matching pattern to the on the film of the hologram, find what would alter the interconnectedness of the projected image in the film, and construct a way to replace items in actual space time or pull energy from everything interconnected....I just havent had time yet....lol jk, but would freezing it change the frequency,  is there an effect on capacitors at that temp?
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: alan on August 06, 2021, 12:48:36 AM
no despite the sarcasm you did seem to got the hang on it
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on August 06, 2021, 02:17:20 AM
By conecting the secondaries out of phase you get at phase shift of 90 deg see scope shot.
 yellow is output
 blue is input
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: leonelogb on August 27, 2021, 02:10:37 AM
By conecting the secondaries out of phase you get at phase shift of 90 deg see scope shot.
 yellow is output
 blue is input
Excellent work, I would like to see the schematic that you used to achieve that. Since I've seen a lot of controversy regarding to  Partnered Output Coils!
Thanks
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on August 27, 2021, 03:12:05 AM
Simple I just wound it as you original circuit 7.5 FT for primary but this goes on last over one of the secondarys.

the 2 secondary are wound in opposite directions  ie start like this ---)))))))))---- then the other sec like so ---((((((((---- so they are out of fase
Then use a scope and a sig gen to find resonance of whole core and winding. other wise you get nothing across the secondary.

caps just attenuates things when i tried adding to lover freq, so resonance isn't alterable for me.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: leonelogb on August 27, 2021, 02:07:59 PM
Simple I just wound it as you original circuit 7.5 FT for primary but this goes on last over one of the secondarys.

the 2 secondary are wound in opposite directions  ie start like this ---)))))))))---- then the other sec like so ---((((((((---- so they are out of fase
Then use a scope and a sig gen to find resonance of whole core and winding. other wise you get nothing across the secondary.

caps just attenuates things when i tried adding to lover freq, so resonance isn't alterable for me.
AlienGrey Thank you! that image is enough for me. Now...! can you put the scope shot including the two secondary under load? It would be very helpful and enlighten the darkness that covers this forum. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlienGrey on August 27, 2021, 08:24:41 PM
No I havent as i'm only powering it directly from a SG. one of the probes is on the driver primary the two phases arnt on the transformer it self,  Any way you need to build it your self and develop your own power to drive as
loading a driver could well alter the phase shift. you could equaly make a CMOS circuit using 2 D types and an inverter to power drive
your out put stage, that way you would

Sil
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: leonelogb on August 28, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
AlienGrey
I understood, thank you very much.  8)
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on April 20, 2023, 04:08:14 AM
Thank you alan for your input, despite my sarcasm, I didn't at the time take into account what you were trying to get across. Now I am taking measurements configurations into account i think i see now what you were trying to educate me on. You are correct in the operation:
We want to drive our coils in resonance. This will occur when the frequency of the pulsed DC current matches the resonant frequency of the coils( And any other components in the system!), resulting in a larger amplitude of oscillation.

The pulses are to regauge the potential on the output coils, to make them "self-act" with one another during the off time.
Duty cycle plays a big role here as well. It can increase the coupling factor of the coils, as well as producing a big enough magnetic field. In Fighters ZPM, he uses 25% and probably has to because if its too low the coils may not reach resonance conditions at all. If too large, you are feeding from the source and/or wasting power you can saturate the core etc. and will cause resonance to become unstable.
This tells us also we need to pick our primary carefully, by having thicker wire we increase inductance per turn, also get a lot less resistance which is ideal for this situation. We need enough turns to have a good enough coupling with L2, though not so much that it will take too long to to get to max amplitude during the regauging  period.
AlienGrey: I didn't know ppl on this site were actually serious about replication. I may have that settup somewhere stored away and hopefully will have time to set back up. Thank you for your scope shots. I set the frequency that I intended to use, using don Smith's formula for the frequency needed to keep at cap voltage where I wanted to be for the output. Sorry I'm rly lazy and can't look this up for you but shouldn't be hard to find. The frequency I was running setup at was probably lower because of load and other conditions. But worked out well for the experiment. It's too late to say if this is a harmonic or exact relation to setup now that I took that apart the next day. Keep us posted of any progress.  I think my bulb may have been a 3.5W LED if that helps. It may also be worth swapping your primary coil connection along with your secondary to achieve better results.
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: AlteredUnity on April 20, 2023, 04:20:31 AM
And what, in this device, someone has achieved any success?
I tried this, it didn't work for me.
Please expand upon "I tried this, didn't work". Can you describe your configuration, core, wire length, awg, and turns?
Title: Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
Post by: ramset on April 20, 2023, 04:41:14 AM
Here a link to many persons who were a very big part of
This work ( for years)
And they share their findings …(on topic tittle here )
Very skilled builders!
https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/ (https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/)


They might have better input and much more to say ..( person you mentioned “Fighter” runs or hosts the new Forum .