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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!  (Read 68275 times)

AlteredUnity

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2021, 07:17:06 PM »
Sorry you lost me. Are you only referring only to the input power? Not sure what ur trying to explain.
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alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2021, 08:52:47 PM »
How do you calculate power in & out of such signals?
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AlteredUnity

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2021, 03:13:31 AM »
P = VI; both input and output are dc, I haven't tried different power supplies,  I know the display of the boost converter isnt entirely accurate, but used it to find best output for lowest current draw. The output, I am taking the mean values V x I. Still, learning tuning, trying diff configs, not alot of time. If interested I'll put scope on L1, or measure in a more accurate way. Willing to try any suggested configurations, that'll improve my understanding...
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AlienGrey

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2021, 10:18:50 PM »
It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL
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alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2021, 01:29:26 PM »
Mean values is correct  to use for continuous power calculation and measurement
Frequency of what exactly?  It must be determined on paper, so one know what one's doing.

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kolbacict

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2021, 02:24:35 PM »
And what, in this device, someone has achieved any success?
I tried this, it didn't work for me.
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alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2021, 02:47:14 PM »
it must have the effect of a battery after the duty cycle. During duty cycle the input coil must create a potential on both output coils, after duty cycle mutual Lenz will try to sustain the collapsing flux by inducing current through the coils which sustains mutual Lenz induction, so the flux decays slowly, I wonder if the decay can be slowed down by using liquid nitrogen so it becomes a super conductor comparable to quantum levitation.
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AlienGrey

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2021, 07:56:50 PM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on August 04, 2021, 10:18:50 PM
It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL

I used an old discarded 2" by 2" Elac recvovered core and wound it with the 30ft & 30 ft L1 and L2 at oposite
ends with a 1/4 wave primary using 4 strands of 7.5 ft of same primory wire.

Note tuning is critical around 211 khz on this set up

driving it with a SG thus colecting each 1/4 wave peaks it gives a nice sine wave peek at the output that
disapears under any load  ;D ;D

It makes a good junk box filler ! Sil
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EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2021, 10:52:43 PM »
This thread was supposed to be locked also, seems the agreement was broken again?


For those that are interested, your Partnered Output Coils need to do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BeFoz3Ypo4


The Magnetic Field Pumps Electrons from the Source, the Atom, accelerating them down the wire. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2-Qb3fUYs


Partnered Output Coils are the exact same analogy as an Electric Generator, the difference is we have no motion, we are Solid State, di/dt is the catalyst!

Output Voltage is "Generated", Antenna Theory is the best way to think about your Terminals:

See below Image, Where L is the Voltage Amplitude on your Output Terminals in Time t.


AlienGray is correct:

Quote from: AlienGrey on August 04, 2021, 10:18:50 PM
It's not just partnered coils it's quarter wave, only hit the right frequency!

SIL


Input must be 1/4 Wave, Output must be 1/2 Wave, where V is at Maximum at Resonance! Some are smart enough to make this work, some just dont want to! Yes, one can use Harmonics...

https://www.aboveunity.com is back up and running after many hundreds of hours solving problems and much money spent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9SJ8vLNk8


Best Wishes,
   Chris Sykes
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AlteredUnity

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2021, 11:38:41 PM »
Quote from: alan on August 05, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
it must have the effect of a battery after the duty cycle. During duty cycle the input coil must create a potential on both output coils, after duty cycle mutual Lenz will try to sustain the collapsing flux by inducing current through the coils which sustains mutual Lenz induction, so the flux decays slowly, I wonder if the decay can be slowed down by using liquid nitrogen so it becomes a super conductor comparable to quantum levitation.
Yea, I barely got the hang of this, but my next step was going to blow it up in a hologram(real time), and find the matching pattern to the on the film of the hologram, find what would alter the interconnectedness of the projected image in the film, and construct a way to replace items in actual space time or pull energy from everything interconnected....I just havent had time yet....lol jk, but would freezing it change the frequency,  is there an effect on capacitors at that temp?
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alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2021, 12:48:36 AM »
no despite the sarcasm you did seem to got the hang on it
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AlienGrey

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2021, 02:17:20 AM »
By conecting the secondaries out of phase you get at phase shift of 90 deg see scope shot.
 yellow is output
 blue is input
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leonelogb

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2021, 02:10:37 AM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on August 06, 2021, 02:17:20 AM
By conecting the secondaries out of phase you get at phase shift of 90 deg see scope shot.
 yellow is output
 blue is input
Excellent work, I would like to see the schematic that you used to achieve that. Since I've seen a lot of controversy regarding to  Partnered Output Coils!
Thanks
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AlienGrey

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2021, 03:12:05 AM »
Simple I just wound it as you original circuit 7.5 FT for primary but this goes on last over one of the secondarys.

the 2 secondary are wound in opposite directions  ie start like this ---)))))))))---- then the other sec like so ---((((((((---- so they are out of fase
Then use a scope and a sig gen to find resonance of whole core and winding. other wise you get nothing across the secondary.

caps just attenuates things when i tried adding to lover freq, so resonance isn't alterable for me.
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leonelogb

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2021, 02:07:59 PM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on August 27, 2021, 03:12:05 AM
Simple I just wound it as you original circuit 7.5 FT for primary but this goes on last over one of the secondarys.

the 2 secondary are wound in opposite directions  ie start like this ---)))))))))---- then the other sec like so ---((((((((---- so they are out of fase
Then use a scope and a sig gen to find resonance of whole core and winding. other wise you get nothing across the secondary.

caps just attenuates things when i tried adding to lover freq, so resonance isn't alterable for me.
AlienGrey Thank you! that image is enough for me. Now...! can you put the scope shot including the two secondary under load? It would be very helpful and enlighten the darkness that covers this forum. ;D ;D ;D
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