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Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« on: April 24, 2020, 12:52:38 AM »


My Friends,

I started Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy back in January 2015. It was a success and Partnered Output Coils is now part of every serious Experiment today!

While some struggle, others report great success.

The biggest problem we had was, we could have done the release and Introduction with several hundred less pages on Stefan's Forum! Far too many trouble makers! Yes I could have handled myself a little better, but when one gets Attacked all the time, one tends to get a little defensive.

We Introduce: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group

Chet ( Ramset ) and I are the moderators. There will be opposition, there will be some that don't like being moderated, we will be fair, we will only moderate what we need to! We aim to keep the Trouble makers out and the Motivation High!

No one is twisting your Arm, you join in and participate if you want to! This is your Choice! If your not participating, then please refrain from posting. We want those that have experience posting and all here to help each other.

   1: Off Topic Posts will be deleted!
   2: Posts containing Harassment will be deleted!
   3: Slanderous Posts will be deleted!


I urge all interested parties, Gear Up, we are gonna break new ground! I will do the best I can to help others here! My Team must always come first however, but I am serious, I want every human being on the planet to have the opportunity to learn something amazing and simple!

   1: Input Coil - 10% Duty Cycle starting at about 3 Volts into 25 turns 1.2mm Wire.
   2: Secondary Coil - 70 - 200 Turns 0.8mm wire - Opposes the Primary, use the Right Hand Grip Rule.
   3: Tertiary Coil - 70 - 200 Turns 0.8mm wire - Opposes the Secondary Coil, Assists the Primary Coil, use the Right Hand Grip Rule.


Make sure you have nice clean switching on your Input Coil. You need a Voltage Source that you can turn up, this is important to see the effects.

I have coined a term: Delayed Conduction, I have many hundreds of very detailed articles on my Forum: http://www.aboveunity.com, please use the pages there for reference! Please use: Builders Guide to Aboveunity Machines for extra help!

Remember: Greater than 90% of the time, your Input is Off, this means your Output should be Off, there is no way for your Output to be On is there - Well yes, this is where Science has no proper explanation for whats occurring! One of many gaping holes in Electromagnetics! Let me tell you something very important:

   1: The Change in Magnetic Field Creates a Voltage!
   2: The Opposition of Magnetic Fields Pumps Current!
   3: The term Magnetic Fields is Interchangeable with Current, as a Current is the same thing / Creates a Magnetic Field!


Your Coils must be Loaded at all times, or this will not work! It is advantageous to think: Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction!

We have a Historical Record to support Asymmetrical Regauging, as long as one can get the Potential, Voltage sufficiently high enough: I = V / R, then your machines will produce: Above Unity Results!

Don Smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qqQarHd74s



The MEG Team:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no50_5iSr2Y



Tinman:


What-you mean like the below scope shot's?
First scope shot before the diode.
Second scope shot after the diode,and large cap removed.

EDIT: Below, see Before and after Diode.



Graham Gunderson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVhMu2FzSg



I have done a video series, to try to explain Partnered Output Coils, the effects, what to look for, how to solve problems and how to make the Coils Act and React together in an advantageous way!

   1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUemDvugl4I
   2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtTerstCxU
   3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlLiiIyUOw
   4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5RoEnmDrR4
   5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTr6dxD61uw
   6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIgo7pj9bY
   7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFo4dOW4UU
   8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUaLp0E2L3s
   9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_e_aU5loc
   10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwNiaEuUrg
   11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRduG2PNIgk



The Sawtooth Wave Form is the defining Energy "Generation" Waveform! Please, always keep this in mind! Think in terms of Energy "Generation"!

You need to think in terms of Symmetry vs Asymmetry! A Symmetrical System can Never Go Above Unity! Your System needs to be Asymmetrical, this is a requirement to be able to "Generate" excess energy beyond the Unity Boundary! Its worth Bench-Marking your machine in Transformer mode, making sure you have around 80% Efficiency at least. Then anything above the 80% mark you can verify, has entered the System beyond the Benchmark value!

As I have shown for many years, Partnered Output Coils must oppose, must Buck each other, there is a specific Polarity to this and the polarity needs to be right. Then you need to focus on the "Generation" Phase, and maximise that phase, remember: I = V / R, Ohms Law. Keep in the back of your head, nearly all the Energy "Generation" Phase is done when your Input is OFF! Thus the short Duty Cycle.

NOTE: Your Machine Pumps Current for almost 100% of the Cycle, but your Input is only on around 10%, or less, so > 90% of the Cycle, you have Energy Output, Energy Output when your Input is OFF, this is significant!

If you only take one thing from what I have posted, please take the following sentence:

Its all just an Understanding, think Asymmetry, forget Symmetry. The Magic happens when you break Symmetry! Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction!

I hope we get a good response from everyone! Good intentions bring forth Good Intentions, but also brings not so good Intentions, thus why we will Moderate. Please think twice before posting.

Please Remember: This is a Builders Group, if you are not building, then if you can make sure you only post useful, serious discussion, you think that would be helpful for others!

I would like to personally Invite Tinman to join us, that is if he wishes.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2020, 07:05:50 PM »
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 07:39:31 AM by EMJunkie »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2020, 02:48:09 AM »
Chris,

I see Gyula has already addressed the issue with my claims.  As he said, I found errors with this and that which reduced most of the work to COP<1.  There is still some possible COPs>1 but the amount is near insignificant. 

As to the post I removed that Frisky Fritz referenced, that was all smoke and mirrors, but how is that any different than all the posts you have removed from this thread?  Or other threads in the past?  Whatever answer you give me, I give you!

You ask why I'm dogging you, here is the answer.  I know how difficult it is to achieve true OU.  You come on these forums for years and demean serious researchers with your verbiage and condescending attitude and make claims of OU and self-runners but you don't really show anything outside of your little peer group on your forum.  So, I'm challenging you to come forward and share on THIS forum. 

You say you don't trust me and use that for an excuse not to participate.  That is a pretty weak excuse and I'll tell you why I think that.  YOU say, as well as your supporters, that you are open and have shared all and only the dummies like myself can't see the "light".  Well, if you are really that benevolent, then why do you refuse to help me and others like myself? There could be only 2 reason for such a response IMO.

1)  You really don't have anything or-

2)  You have it but don't want to share! 

I could go on for hours as to why reason #2) is an absolutely short sighted stupid path to follow but hey, that's up to you and yours.  In due time you will understand.

I think we'll let the readers here form their on opinions on this matter but I will say that I'm disappointed in your lack of cooperation with me!

Pm






Partzman, I thought you were a Builder?

Why type all this guff?

Why not Build?

Impress someone, not me, but someone!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2020, 09:58:20 PM »
Chris,

Here is a build on a flyback Ucore with .020" gap.  Primary is 30 turns, POC1 under primary is 103 turns and POC2 is 103 turns.  The DC power supply is set at 10.248v and the load is a 1% Caddock 20 ohm non-inductive film resistor.  The current is measured with a Tek TCP0020 current probe and the frequency is 9kHz with a 5% duty cycle.

The first pix is the transformer layout.

The 2nd pix is the Pin of the primary which is seen to be 3.251w mean over 5.745us which equals Uin = 3.251*5.745e-6 = 18.7uJ .

The 3rd pix is the pout in POC1 which is located under the primary seen as 44.85w rms over 110.9us which equals Uout = 4.97uJ .

The 4th pix is the current waveform in POC2.

The COP = 4.97/18.7 = .266 .

Pm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 10:15:35 PM »
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Finally, nearly 6 years! Finally we have an image of a build here!

Scope shots show you have issues. Last image, POC2 is close! PIn is wrong. It appears you don't have polarity right. At 10% you should be Off, and the Current should go Negative, power is then sent back to the Power Supply. This occurs when you get the Polarities right! This is what makes your Input go down under load! See my trivial, poor example below:

Drop your Input Coil down to 4 turns or so.

Input Pulse, must fit inside the steep increase, "Rate", (10% Duty Cycle or close), at all time outside this 10% or so, your Input is Off, you have Positive Current Flowing After Switch Off, not what we want, see below image:

Voltage amplitude, how would you go about increasing the Output? We both know I = V / R, so as V goes up, I must also go up right?

VERIFY: By disconnecting one POC, output drops right off to nothing? Polarity counts, get the polarity wrong, you're building a standard Transformer, as I already pointed out above! Obviously not what we want!

On this unit, you're going to be around the 2 - 3MHZ for Resonance, can you verify and post resonance Frequency please. Gives you a hint to the question above.

How many turns on your POC? It would be nice to see a larger Core, CSA is important, but you can start with this! Its a start!

People that want to fail will fail, people that want to succeed will succeed, many people have already succeeded, so you have a lot of pressure on you Partzman!

Follow this logic, solve these few basic problems and you're on your way! Image below if you study will help you. I will help you if you stay on track and don't mess me around!

Follow CaptainLoz's Logic and very dedicated efforts here: http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/captainloz-s-asymmetrical-re-gauging-experiment/

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes



Where:

   1: Purple Trace is the Math, showing Positive and Negative Power.
   2: Pink Trace is the Gate Signal to the Mosfet.
   3: Yellow is the Input Voltage.
   4: Teal Trace is the Input Current, both Positive and Negative.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2020, 11:50:17 PM »
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Finally, nearly 6 years! Finally we have an image of a build here!

Scope shots show you have issues. Last image, POC2 is close! PIn is wrong. It appears you don't have polarity right. At 10% you should be Off, and the Current should go Negative, power is then sent back to the Power Supply. This occurs when you get the Polarities right! This is what makes your Input go down under load! See my trivial, poor example below:

The input on this version did not return to the PS as you point out but rather the primary was clamped during the "off" part of the cycle.

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Drop your Input Coil down to 4 turns or so.

Input Pulse, must fit inside the steep increase (10% Duty Cycle or close), at all time outside this 10% or so, your Input is Off, you have Positive Current Flowing After Switch Off, not what we want, see below image:

As I stated above, no current was being drawn during the turn off of the primary as this current was clamped.  This was done to enhance the output due to core resonance which is visible in the POC1 current.  Dropping the primary to 6 turns was detrimental to performance with this circuit.

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Voltage amplitude, how would you go about increasing the Output? We both know I = V / R, so as V goes up, I must also go up right?

VERIFY: By disconnecting one POC, output drops right off to nothing? Polarity counts, get the polarity wrong, you're building a standard Transformer, as I already pointed out above! Obviously not what we want!

Actually no, disconnecting POC2 lowers the output on POC1 slightly.

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On this unit, you're going to be around the 2 - 3MHZ for Resonance, can you verify and post resonance Frequency please. Gives you a hint to the question above.

This I don't understand at all!  How can you judge such a high frequency is required when the POC inductances are in the 3-4mH range?

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How many turns on your POC? It would be nice to see a larger Core, CSA is important, but you can start with this! Its a start!

People that want to fail will fail, people that want to succeed will succeed, many people have already succeeded, so you have a lot of pressure on you Partzman!

I have larger Metglas cores which I can try but I don't seem to feel any pressure.

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Follow this logic, solve these few basic problems and you're on your way! Image below if you study will help you. I will help you if you stay on track and don't mess me around!

Follow CaptainLoz's Logic and very dedicated efforts here: http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/captainloz-s-asymmetrical-re-gauging-experiment/

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes

Where:

   1: Purple Trace is the Math, showing Positive and Negative Power.
   2: Pink Trace is the Gate Signal to the Mosfet.
   3: Yellow is the Input Voltage.
   4: Teal Trace is the Input Current, both Positive and Negative.

I have several comments about the traces shown.  First I notice that the input voltage is switched and is not continuous DC.  I understand the increase during the portion where current is fed back to the supply no problem there.

Secondly you do realize I'm sure that the vertical resolution of this series of scopes is 8 bits and that is full screen from top to bottom.  This a linear function so basically it means 1 bit per division.  When you have such small trace vertical deflections as shown here, the scope's vertical DACs are only able to resolve 1-2 bits at the best but if they spec +or- 1 bit, your accuracy is out the window.  Jus' saying.

I have the POC polarities correct in relation to each other IMO and the POC's are both 103 turns.

I will make changes to the primary switching circuit and report back.

Pm 

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One of the POC, L2 or L3, if you disconnect one of them, output should fall to Zero pretty much. It is the Interactions here, that is Key! Without this being correct, it is not right. Each POC is the Primary for the other, being a Secondary, one Powers the Other, the Input is merely a catalyst. Follow CaptainLoz's videos for more information, he is exactly right, even if we have seen a measurement error in the past, he still has it right!

Yes, I know about the scope, and I know you have decades of experience here, so, I do not challenge you on this topic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZNp5h3JjrY

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So if I have an 8-bit ADC that means that I can get 256 quantization levels. In terms we can relate to, this is the vertical resolution of the ADC. Here on screen, I've got a 1.8 volt peak-to-peak signal which means I want to set my vertical scale such that I have about 2 volts full screen. With 256 quantization levels at this vertical setting the best resolution I could get is 7.8 millivolts.


Quote from: Rigol link="http://scopechart.com/rigol/rigol-ds1104z-ds1104z-3"

SIGNAL
   Channels - 4 analog
   Max input voltage - CAT I 300 Vrms, CAT II 100 Vrms, Transient Overvoltage 1000 Vpk
   Bandwidth - 100 MHz
   Sampling rate - 1 GSa/s
   Time base - 5 ns/div to 50 s/div
   Capture rate - 30000 wfms/s
   Memory depth - 24 Mpts
   Vertical resolution - 8 bit
   Vertical scale - 1 mV/div to 10 V/div
   Rise time - 3.5 ns
   Trigger - CH1, CH2, CH3, CH4, AC
   Input coupling - DC, AC, GND
   Probes - 1x, 10x, 100x, 1000x
   Input impedance - 1 MΩ+-1%, 15 pF+-3 pF
   Mathematics - A+B, A-B, AxB, A/B, FFT, etc.



Like I have said in the past to you, it would be nice to work with you. I don't want to work against anyone! My Members are very advanced here also, they also know more than me in this area! In saying this, the Positive Current is being measured as used Current, V x I = P and anything above Zero is energy the scope is counting, yes? We agree here? See Red Arrow on the below image:

It is important, current is send back to the Power Supply from the Input Coil, fixing this will make for a much better result.

All readers must realise, it takes time to make something wonderful! It does not occur over night, or first time! What's the saying:

Don't forget, this is the start, a series of small steps soon becomes a great journey!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these Dire Times,
   Chris Sykes



P.S: I find your scope very hard to read for some reason, Red appears to be current even though math says 2x4, or Teal x Green. Red is Math, so I should have put the Red Arrow on the Green Trace! So yes, your Scope is calculating all this Current and Voltage as Used Power when it should not be! It should be Returned Power and Current Should Be Negative!


P.P.S: 97% of all posts on this forum are from Moronical Retards! I wish Stefan would moderate the Moronical Retards out! Productivity would then sky rocket! So many Moronical Retards Here! I have ZERO on my Forum! See the difference? WOW! See why we are SO FAR AHEAD! Too Much Dumb here! The 25% of you that want to learn and progress really need to loose the dummies that are just Moronical Retards and progress else where! No normal person can Achieve with this much DUMB Around Them!


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