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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #90 on: June 05, 2020, 03:15:51 AM »
Chris,

Sounds good to me!  However, the Prometheus thing needs to be resolved!

I looked at the 75 occurrences on your forum when searching for "Prometheus" and I really didn't see anything relating to my technology either old or new!  I did however find a little bit of info on him from the several posts below-

Prometheus posted this 25 December 2018
Well, I'm all alone for Christmas. My wife and kids traveled to Taiwan to visit family, but I had to stay and work, so I'm totally playing the bachelor right now... the dishes are piled high in the kitchen sink and I have no intention of washing them until the very last minute. 
With remembrances of 2018, a pretty good year, I look forward to 2019 and all that I'll learn during it.


Prometheus posted this 27 December 2018
I've done a lot of things in my life... running nuke plants on fast-attack subs; running a fuel oil/natural gas fired electrical generation station; destroying nerve agent, mustard gas and live munitions for the Department of the Army Inspector General; PC repair and network installation/troubleshooting; I wired a few houses for whole-house entertainment systems / video intercoms / network, etc.; programming (to include programming custom stock trading algorithms); and mechanical maintenance.
I like what I do now... it's just physically demanding enough to keep me in shape, doesn't require a lot of mental horsepower (which I'd prefer to use for research), is low-stress, pays pretty well, has great benefits and retirement package, etc.


I've never had any family in Taiwan and in my life I was a high school dropout that worked on hotrods.  Later, I self educated myself and owned several successful electronics manufacturing companies that manufactured amplifiers for the music industry, computer peripherals, and highly efficient electronic ballasts for fluorescent lighting and hold several patents in these areas including 3D molded circuit board technology.  I've worked on FE and OU devices for nearly 30 years.

I've never run a nuke plant, etc!

Oh and BTW, the guy on JLNs website that built and tested the successful OU MEG with MOVs, that's me.

Pm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #91 on: June 05, 2020, 03:48:34 AM »


Oh and BTW, the guy on JLNs website that built and tested the successful OU MEG with MOVs, that's me.

Pm





... Whats this got to do with the price of cheese at the Markets? I don't get it, am I missing something, where does this come in?

I see on the JLN Website, a small link:  Good advices for the MEG builders : The MEG Notes by Jon Flickinger

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--- In jlnlabs@y..., Jon Flickinger <jonfli@i...> wrote:
To All,

This information is to all those presently involved in or thinking about an attempted MEG replication. I'm expressing opinions that I've come to from the results I've obtained after spending many lab hours with many variations in topology and circuitry. In no way am I de-potentializing the MEG (pun intended) but simply trying to share what I've learned about the device for the good of
the whole!

IMHO, it is a waste of time to attempt power measurements of the MEG standard load resistors (that is, any linear resistive device) if one expects to see any excess energy. The output loads must be resistive (non-reactive) and nonlinear. The resistance must decrease with increasing voltage and the power must be calculated from the output voltage and current. Those of you powering
up your MEG for the first time with pure resistive loads, will find the waveforms do not match Bearden's nor JLN's! Only with nonlinear loads and a properly "tuned" MEG will you see the near half sine current waveform in your primary coils.

With nonlinear loads and a properly setup MEG, you will measure COP's >1 with the proper measurement tools and techniques. In general, the MEG seems to like voltage build up in the secondary windings before supplying current to the load!

If so, this would seem to align with Tom Bearden's public disclose of this device! The problem now lies in the utilization of this excess power to do some useful work. It would appear to me that the MEG can be run with lower secondary voltages and properly designed loads and still yield COP's >1. In fact, this should be a focal point for anyone doing this project.

Suggestions-

1) A common nonlinear load device to try would be various voltage rated MOV's or transient absorbers.
I used Panasonic ZNR10K621U's for COP's ranging from 1.75 to 5 depending on coil turns and supply voltage. Ask JLN how he "conditioned" his carbon load resistor as I don't know. ( JLN Answer, see at : http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/negres.htm )

2) Use a higher spec'd device for Vds than the BUZ11. With only a 50 v rating for Vds, this device avalanches on the primary turn off flyback phase and results in abnormal heating. Use a device with a Vds >200 volts and an Id >4 amps.

3) The power supply can also be a constant current source and will actually provide some measure of safety if disaster strikes in the switching circuitry!

4) I can't stress strongly enough the safety issues regarding the high output voltages one will encounter on the secondaries! USE CAUTION! Be sure your measurement devices connected to any portion of the secondaries are capable of withstanding the voltages you will encounter.

5) NEVER POWER UP A MEG WITHOUT LOADS CONNECTED AS THE OPEN CIRCUIT VOLTAGES
CAN BE LETHAL AND DESTRUCTIVE!


I can now understand why the MEG presents certain problems in achieving a self-running state and it may not be necessary as Tom Bearden has recently tried to point out!

If anyone should experience valid COP's >1 with standard linear loads, please speak out!

Regards,

Jon Flickinger
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I still don't get it, sorry, missed that one!


Didn't you work with Smudge and Graham Gunderson at Chava Energy also? Was it Chava back then? Or was it MPI?

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #92 on: June 05, 2020, 03:35:45 PM »
   Chris:
   You have filled many pages on the forum with only complaints, and excuses. When if ever are YOU going to show something that actually work and produces OU, or at least self runs? You obviously have nothing to show or you wouldn't be wasting so much time and space here for nothing. Is that why you need some one else to come up with something that works? Because you can't.   You can remove this post if you like. It makes no difference to me. As this thread is nothing but a waste of time.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #93 on: June 05, 2020, 04:40:27 PM »



... Whats this got to do with the price of cheese at the Markets? I don't get it, am I missing something, where does this come in?

I see on the JLN Website, a small link:  Good advices for the MEG builders : The MEG Notes by Jon Flickinger


I still don't get it, sorry, missed that one!


Didn't you work with Smudge and Graham Gunderson at Chava Energy also? Was it Chava back then? Or was it MPI?

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

Chris,

Well let's see, I thought you might be interested in letting your followers know that the "delayed conduction" you speak of on your forum has precedence?   An MOV load provides this exact type of delayed conduction on the secondary of a MEG like device.  There is also series resonance involved due to the capacitance of the MOV until the voltage level reaches the conduction level of the MOV.

I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.

Pm

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #94 on: June 05, 2020, 10:29:56 PM »
Chris,

Well let's see, I thought you might be interested in letting your followers know that the "delayed conduction" you speak of on your forum has precedence?   An MOV load provides this exact type of delayed conduction on the secondary of a MEG like device.  There is also series resonance involved due to the capacitance of the MOV until the voltage level reaches the conduction level of the MOV.

I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.

Pm



One has to ask at this point, after reading this message, specifically the in depth knowledge about "Delayed Conduction" that has been obtained, and especially after reading the prior post, specifically this:




Have I ever looked at your forum?  Yes I have on occasion but honestly it is for no more than a minute or two as I find nothing of real interest IMO.




I have said before, Question everything! There is always more to it than whats on the surface!



Experience give you a perspective that is unbounded, and this is certainly an experience! Jon has also avoided completely the question posed also, which is neither here nor there...



I see no apology from you for falsely accusing me of registering on your forum as "Prometheus" and in return calling me a hypocrite, so this is my last response to you.




I am sorry, what was this here?



P.S: If the account: "Prometheus" is truly not yours then I am sorry for this assumption. I do have reason to believe this was you, as some work posted is identical to your work currently.




Have we learned anything from these recent exchanges? I certainly have, a lot of things I did not know before.





Now, I see, we are best to have our separate paths. You do your thing, I will do mine.





Partzman, please refrain from posting on this and other threads that I have created, again.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #94 on: June 05, 2020, 10:29:56 PM »
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« Reply #95 on: June 05, 2020, 10:39:52 PM »
   Chris:
   You have filled many pages on the forum with only complaints, and excuses. When if ever are YOU going to show something that actually work and produces OU, or at least self runs? You obviously have nothing to show or you wouldn't be wasting so much time and space here for nothing. Is that why you need some one else to come up with something that works? Because you can't.   You can remove this post if you like. It makes no difference to me. As this thread is nothing but a waste of time.



NickZ, The fact remains, perhaps I have presented more than one experiment that can be made to go Above Unity, and you have missed it. - Wouldn't that be a shame!

My Members all think very poorly of all here, do you want to know why? Because you are all Lazy and not Focused. Some comments are not worded so nicely!

Let me give you a leg up: Pot of Gold - Now, look at what others say:



Many here laugh at, and mok EMJ, but the fact is , he is basically right in what he is trying to put forward.



Guys, I have a proposal for anyone that is honest and interested.
Please put this statement into your mind without any doubts: The device works on the exact principles Chris shared.

Now please go to the workbench and don't quit until you make it work! There are 2 choices to succeed: be smart and do it fast or be stubborn (like me) and do it by failing many times first. Either one works.


Perhaps a Demo is not what I plan to do, I wonder why this would be? Smart people I am sure can work this out!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #96 on: June 06, 2020, 05:48:29 PM »
   Then what is it that you ARE planning on actually doing here???

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« Reply #97 on: June 06, 2020, 10:54:09 PM »
   Then what is it that you ARE planning on actually doing here???



NickZ - Have you not worked that out already? It is elementary my dear Watson!

As a Experienced Researcher, what is your Deduction?

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: What is it that you ARE planning on actually doing here?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #98 on: June 07, 2020, 02:36:28 AM »
Hey Chris, your attitude is cr*p and everyone knows it.  You've cause a lot of fire and disruption on this forum.  You have nothing pal. 
@Smudge Continue on with your wonderful posts.  Don't acquiesce to the "negative" coming at you.  Please continue.  Thanks.


So Chris,

I would assume from your commentary on the Sweet device that you can demonstrate a replication that performs as he claimed?  If so, let's see it so we all can be convinced there was no conditioning involved!

Pm

Edit:  If you won't or can't show us a demo, then please refrain from telling us how the device worked!



Sour Grapes... I was thinking Smudge deserved more respect, rather than posting off topic attacks toward me, on his thread, a normality here!

Smart people, ones that can read, know already that others working on my work, do in point of fact have working Above Unity Machines, many people have come forward over the years, so this sort of challenge is merely a provocation, one that comes from Sour Grapes. It does not take a rocket scientist to see my successes come from the Deep Study of Floyd Sweets work, thus, a mind using common-sense would therefore say, Chris's work is in point of Fact based on Floyd Sweets work, Floyd Sweets early machines using the exact same technology, Chris, Me, I am sharing with you! But alas, some people are not that smart!

Floyd Sweet Did Not Condition his magnets, John Bedini even said so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-S6WgN13UI

If Anyone can prove me wrong, then please do so! I would bet money on it, they can not, ever, prove it! The Magnetic Field was not moving as was described! There was no Conditioning, I have experiments to prove it!

I post this here, away from Smudges Thread, simply out of Respect for Smudge. Others clearly showing no respect, attempting to start fights on Smudges Thread. Failed!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes



P.S: I challenge partzman to prove me wrong! The burden of proof falls on the Claimant, claiming Magnet Conditioning requires Proof, and if no proof can be given, then this must be dismissed as fact! Pushing Fiction as Fact is in no way Scientific.

Why wont trouble follow me here? There is no Rocket Science to this, Stefan would love to hear about these trouble makers I am sure! Protecting his forum from trouble I am sure is high on his list!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
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« Reply #99 on: June 07, 2020, 04:21:00 AM »



It is so easy to pick Trolls!

They never make any real progress! Their intelligence, poor, the smoke and mirror effect! Always self entitled, with a real arrogance about them. Always wrong too! History will judge these people harshly. Judgement is coming!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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« Reply #100 on: June 07, 2020, 05:28:45 AM »



In time, there will be a real struggle to get the Information I am sharing, I mean, people that want to wake up, want to evolve, these people will want this information!

I like to document these things, so others can read, the problems faced, from other people, and the names of these people are recorded in the History books.

I mean it is important to document the People that:

   1: Helped and gave freely to others, known as Hero's of History!
   2: Hindered, Known as the Hitlers of History, not the side I want to be on!


I make an effort to document everything! I have very detailed User Profiles on most people here! Data collection, Public Data, I collect it, you would be amazed at what it gleams! When the day comes, and it is time for those that have not helped, when they need to be known by Authorities, they will be known!

I will have no hesitation of passing on the Information I have gathered on these people! The ones destroying this very important Energy Movement! The guilty ones, will be exposed! Socialism, for the greater good, but not when you destroy first to then rebuilt! That is Terrorism!

Good people will become hero's! This is not just self evident to me, but also to all My Members, who look down on many of you here as just that: Trouble Makers.

For all genuine people here, stick to basic, hard facts! The Facts wont steer you wrong!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

P.S: Look at the numbers:

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« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2020, 12:54:52 AM »




IMPORTANT:



Opposition to the Floyd Sweet's Magnet Conditioning narrative has been Moderated Out of the other thread, all my posts have been deleted Opposing Floyd Sweet's Magnet Conditioning.

There are threads on this forum, attempting to push Floyd Sweet Magnet Conditioning, with no Proof, Fiction results!

https://youtu.be/8tTQ727ZHIU

https://youtu.be/EcNEvRuH9EQ

https://youtu.be/4txDkzRwSkI

https://youtu.be/dIjkTZsE_mg


When we have a lot of proof to the Contrary, proving Floyd Sweets Magnet Conditioning is False, we must ask, for what reason, why, would others, continue a narrative that has more evidence against, than for!

I urge all readers, Stick to Solid Provable Fact, it wont steer you wrong, Fiction will steer you wrong every time. Stick to whats provable, that's where My Team and I have had all our successes! My Work is based entirely on Floyd Sweet, all my members know this and we can prove many points.

Don't let others steer you wrong, stick to Solid Facts!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes


REMEMBER: Floyd Sweets early work - Zero Magnet Conditioning! Magnets ONLY Biased the core, to get the core up close to, but not in Saturation:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2020, 11:52:04 PM »




Did Tarriel Kapanadze Condition his Magnets? To get 5 KW from his Coils? Oh, No, That's right he has no Magnets! Logic My Friends, there is no Magic if you use Logic!

Think Logically in these dire times, don't go down Rabbit Holes! Use deduction to deduce where the Energy comes from! There is No Magic!

When there is ONLY The Coils, and the Power Flows, then what does this tell you?


Quote from: Ruslan Kulabuhov


All these systems operate on the basis of standing and traveling waves. It is necessary first to catch the motion of particles in the coil.





Don't let yourself be another statistic of the dumb club! Floyd Sweet told you straight:



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If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E / 2 to E.




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FIELD SUPER-POSITION AND THE VACUUM TRIODE

Electromagnetic induction with no measurable magnetic field is not new. It is well known that in the space surrounding a properly wound toroidal coil there is no magnetic field. This is due to the superposition of the fields. However, when alternating current is surging through a transformer an electric field surrounds it. When we apply the principle of superposition to the vacuum triode it becomes more obvious how the device is in fact operating.

The principle of superposition states that; "In order to calculate the resultant intensity of superimposed fields, each field must be dealt with individually as though the other were not present". The resultant is obtained by vector addition of each field considered singularly.


Consider for a moment the construction of the triode which includes the bifilar coils...

When the current in one half of the conductors in the coils (i.e., one of the bifilar elements in each coil) of the device is moving up, both the current and the magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

The resultant motional E-field would be vertical to both and inwardly directed.

At the same time the current in the other half of the conductors in the coils is moving down and both the current and magnetic field follow the right-hand rule.

The resulting motional E-field is again vertical to both and inwardly directed.


Thus, the resultant field intensity is double the intensity attributable to either one of the set of coil conductors taken singularly.

Expressed mathematically: E = (B x V ) + ( -B x -V ) = 2 ( B x V )




The term: "double the intensity" what exactly does this refer to? Yes that's right, a Standing Wave! Very good!


Same Tech, see the clarity of Logic! Now why would you need "conditioned magnets" when, like hundreds of others have, Tariel Kapanadze, Ruslan, Akula, and many hundreds more get Kilowatts from their coils with no extra work! Honestly, Logic will not steer you wrong! Fiction will! At the very most, on a hot day perhaps Air Conditioning may help some? But seriously, don't be a statistic! Think Logically!

Dont believe me? Go read the documentation, from Floyd Sweet himself: Floyd Sweet Documents.

My Members are all, already well aware of these simple facts! I guess that's another reason why they are so far ahead!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: If you do enough research, the Elementary Electric "Generator" operates on the very same Standing Wave principles.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2020, 10:37:30 PM »
if the transformer is powered by a powerful source and looks like this.
tuning a smaller winding into resonance using a suitable capacitor does not increase the glow of the bulb.



I bet Tarriel Kapanadze would be very proud of your effort! You show your intelligence "kolbacict", and what side you are on, the wrong side! Idiots just can not be helped!

The images posted by: "kolbacict", are attached below. My Members will have a great laugh at your effort and approach, under the circumstances, e.g: Given the Circuits and Scope shops and not followed basic layout!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2020, 02:50:58 AM »
"If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E / 2 to E."

An apparently steady E field will be created.

So how do we do this?

Mags

 

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