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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #150 on: June 18, 2020, 09:39:42 AM »




For some, it is really hard, most have to work hard for it! For others, it is easy! No amount of tutoring will help some! No amount of Demo's help!

Some make a lot of noise and make zero progress!

Some work quietly and make progress in their Lab, happy to not share!

Some are here to make sure this does not get taken seriously! These people are the most lazy and the most noisy! Easy to spot! Here for the longest, made the least progress! Even changed their names on several occasions to try to hide their identity!

Facts are indisputable! Look for them! I show many, Referenced Material is Referenced for a very good reason!

Nearly Straight DC on the Output, how is that possible in a Transformer? NE1 Paying any attention? 12V @ approximately 400ma, 10% Duty Cycle on the Input.

NOTE: Output, Image below, measured on Globe side only (L2), L3 not measured, this has extra Energy, Red is Current, Yellow is Voltage,  Current = mV = mA. Can we cope with that little equation Gyula?

Wait for it, Troll Rush inbound! When there is too many Dummies in Town, there is always fights at the pub!

I shared this with My Members quite some time back, they used this to their advantage, lets see if you can too?

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes


P.S: You will note the ? in the shot, indicating readings are not properly recorded. Bring Personal Attacks here on this, I will delete your posts, I am well aware of this! Done deliberately!

NE1 Learn anything today?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #151 on: June 18, 2020, 03:38:25 PM »
Chris, This may not be a popular post here.. I know you "strongly suggest" your members do not share tutorials on how to achieve "aboveunity" results from your forum or anywhere public ? I see they all listen very well ...nobody posts tutorials here ,nor has anybody ever posted such a "tutorial PDF" here.[or anywhere on the net ,nor even a "Tutorial PDF" on an anomaly ...for peer review ...ever ..? [if I missed this please correct me .
for clarity I refer to a "tutorial or presentation" that actually performs as claimed  or similar  anomaly which is new to science for peer review ..with complete instructions on how it is done, schematics components wire size and type ,core specs etc etc ..for others to replicate and review .again if I missed this please correct me....I agree...a demonstration is a "complete waste of time".you tube has probably millions such "demonstrations".

a "Tutorial PDF" with an actual goal of getting somebody who desperately needs the technology access to this technology ? An entirely different story....never been done.

As for Myself if I had this technology I would not blink an eye to do this..
or be able to sleep with this knowledge and not be sharing it anyway and every way possible.Peoples lives do depend on this knowledge.
 I know of no person with a stand alone no batteries or obvious source of energy claim ... or who has a successful aboveunity self running "looped with gain" claim .

NONE [as of this writing] plenty trying but...unable to stand alone unattached to equipment or battery or obvious"known" power supply...always the error is eventually found ..[so far]

and here the rub...since you are the only person claiming above unity self running device here.

Chris
Quote, For some, it is really hard, most have to work hard for it! For others, it is easy! end quote Chris,  many/most have no choice...100 children with no choice starved to death yesterday in the Philippines, today too....tomorrow etc etc..will probably get worse and globally too..
since January worldwide 3,073,421 dead to starvation and counting..
 Link shared By member iron [ronee at other forums]
 https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-pandemic-like-social-engineering-experiment/5716199
Snip from link
The ‘official’ numbers of COVID-19 deaths worldwide, according to the website Worldometers.info, as of May 4th, is 251,421. I will not contest this figure for the moment, but later on will give evidence that this number is inflated. But let’s use this number for now.
Let’s compare it to the number of deaths worldwide from starvation since January 1st, according to the website theworldcounts.com: 3,073,421. Even as I type in this number it has already changed, as it does continuously every two seconds or so. My question is, if our world leaders are so concerned about human mortality, should they not be devoting at least 10 times the amount of financial and human resources that they are giving to this pandemic to ending world hunger? Should they not have come together and done this decades ago?end snip

10 years you write of having successful aboveunity claim...Rick Friedrick too and Bedini and Aaron at E forum and...??

I work with people that would bring this tech where it is needed ...people who have worked in countries where the above statistics come from ,That have worked to teach and train or help such people.
how fast our world is changing...how privileged have some been to have this technology !!

 However others who need it the most ?
how much longer ??
Here one paragraph [Tutorial PDF] would change the world from your key board ..no effort beyond the plunking keys..no money no nothing...
the world will have the resource it so desperately needs..
yes you are very special Chris...do the next right thing and share.
if you are trying not to draw attention I could understand your apprehension ..however all you do is draw attention ...a forum "we have above unity here"
?? if you are concerned ChetKremens@gmail.com ??

while we can still get this out to the world ...
Sincerely Chet K







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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #152 on: June 18, 2020, 04:23:17 PM »

Hi Chet,
The measurement method you described here  sounds good to learn about the output power of a device. It needs careful and precise procedure to follow but can be done. 

There remains to find a method for estimating the input power to a device. If the input needs a square (or other but not sine) wave drive, then the use of a 2 channel digital oscilloscope and its built-in Math function to integrate the instanteneous input voltage and current samples can give a good estimation. 

In case the input and output power happens to be too close to each other, say in the range of COP  1.1 - 1.2  as per the measurements,  then a 2nd (or even a 3rd) device ought to be built and drive the input of the 2nd one from the output of 1st one (and so on), to increase the output power (as suggested by TinselKoala).   Unfortunately, this "daisy-chain" method may need some matching network to apply to avoid unwanted loss because the input and output impedances of a device may differ, of course.  It is possible that such chain connections cannot be done by using simple matching networks and more expertise is needed a home experimenter may not have. 

Gyula
« Last Edit: June 18, 2020, 11:44:23 PM by gyulasun »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #152 on: June 18, 2020, 04:23:17 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #153 on: June 18, 2020, 11:40:32 PM »



Chet,

Tutorial = Here. Suitable and understandable Gyula?

   1: Videos included = 11, 7+ hours approx.
   2: Circuits Included.
   3: Scope Shops Included.
   4: Background of Asymmetrical Regauging Included.
   5: Historical References Included.
   6: Independent Replication done!
   7: Detailed Explanation in most posts made Included.


Tutorial, yes, done, just too many people do not read, pay attention to videos! We have Zero requirement for peer review, we all know what that will do! Peer Jealousy more like! "he didn't write this bit the way I want to see it..."


Many here laugh at, and mok EMJ, but the fact is , he is basically right in what he is trying to put forward.



Guys, I have a proposal for anyone that is honest and interested.
Please put this statement into your mind without any doubts: The device works on the exact principles Chris shared.

Now please go to the workbench and don't quit until you make it work! There are 2 choices to succeed: be smart and do it fast or be stubborn (like me) and do it by failing many times first. Either one works.



Most will do a bit of Math:
   Input = 12V @ 0.5A = 6 Watts, Output = 17V @ 0.7A = ‭11.9‬Watts, COP = ‭11.9‬Watts / 6 Watts = ‭1.98‬.
   I have over inflated the Input and not included L3 Power in this Math!
   Of course accurate measurements are not considered, the Scope was unable to take measurement on Off Screen Data. But there is enough information to put your 1.1 and 1.2 theories out the window.

Tomorrow will be worse! I believe it! Best everyone get started now! I am not special, I was given a task and the task is special, not me!

I have done my part for Humanity, now it is Humanity's turn to help themselves! What I have shared is just the start!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #154 on: June 19, 2020, 01:09:34 AM »
Chris,  I will do my best to engage a builder to replicate here.[I will find one !! ...maybe even from OZ
may take a few days...all the builders keep busy with projects..

However 1.98 should be more than adequate to get full attention.

with gratitude
Chet K
perhaps a separate thread so as to keep it neat ?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2020, 01:24:55 AM »
Chris,  I will do my best to engage a builder to replicate here.[I will find one !! ...maybe even from OZ
may take a few days...all the builders keep busy with projects..

However 1.98 should be more than adequate to get full attention.

with gratitude
Chet K
perhaps a separate thread so as to keep it neat ?



People need to get building, experimenting, learning the path forward Chet!

Everyone should create their own thread and name it appropriately! Meaningful names are important!

I am also fine if others want to post useful information here! As long as they all, get off their backsides and do it!

Like I said, this is just the start, much better results are possible, as are much worse, work is required!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2020, 10:51:00 AM »
Chet Chris,

What is your circuit you want replicating, I dont have time to play hide and seek games
I have other projects i'm working on.

Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #157 on: June 19, 2020, 11:21:22 PM »
Chet Chris,

What is your circuit you want replicating, I dont have time to play hide and seek games
I have other projects i'm working on.

Regards


Hey AG

This post Here will help understand whats going on in the Coils!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #158 on: June 20, 2020, 01:59:44 AM »
yes many thanks Chris

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2020, 12:53:11 PM »
...
   Input = 12V @ 0.5A = 6 Watts, Output = 17V @ 0.7A = ‭11.9‬Watts, COP = ‭11.9‬Watts / 6 Watts = ‭1.98‬.
   I have over inflated the Input and not included L3 Power in this Math!
   Of course accurate measurements are not considered, the Scope was unable to take measurement on Off Screen Data. But there is enough information to put your 1.1 and 1.2 theories out the window.
...
 

Hi EMJunkie, 

Could you share some more details: 

   The input and output voltage and current values you wrote are DC or AC ones?

   If they were DC values then did the DC input drive a power oscillator and this oscillator drove the POC?

   What was the load across the output of the POC?

I do not mean these questions to be tricky ones, and I do not seek for any 'debunking', ok?   

Gyula


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #160 on: June 20, 2020, 01:18:04 PM »
 

Hi EMJunkie, 

Could you share some more details: 

   The input and output voltage and current values you wrote are DC or AC ones?

   If they were DC values then did the DC input drive a power oscillator and this oscillator drove the POC?

   What was the load across the output of the POC?

I do not mean these questions to be tricky ones, and I do not seek for any 'debunking', ok?   

Gyula



All answers are in the videos Gyula!



   The input and output voltage and current values you wrote are DC or AC ones?



DC Voltages, both Input and Output, Output has a small AC Component, very little. Currents not so much, we have Current doing all sorts of things and I am not going into that!





   If they were DC values then did the DC input drive a power oscillator and this oscillator drove the POC?



No, DC Input was direct from PSU, Powertech MP3090, 15.3 Volt, 40 Amp Power Supply. Very good, never had a problem with it. Nothing else was powered from this PSU.



   What was the load across the output of the POC?



The POC is sensitive to the Load. It was just a 12V 300ma globe. Obviously over driving it at 17V. Yes, after some time it does burn out as one would expect, real power flows and heats this Resistive Load!

Core CSA vs Coil Impedance needs to be thought of to suit Load Impedances.

I don't care if you try to debunk, you simply cant! Not truthfully anyway! Its real, it works, its been independently replicated by hundreds of people now, nothing you can say or do to disprove it! Simple as that! Bad pixel on my Scope, its fake, no sorry, it doesn't work that way any more Gyula! Too many know about that sort of shabby tom foolery and will see right through the BS!

Best wishes, stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
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« Reply #161 on: June 20, 2020, 06:23:44 PM »

#153 : Tutorial: link
https://overunity.com/18464/partnered-output-coils-builders-group-moderated/msg545088/#msg545088


Remember: Greater than 90% of the time, your Input is Off, this means your Output should be Off, there is no way for your Output to be On is there - Well yes, this is where Science has no proper explanation for whats occurring! One of many gaping holes in Electromagnetics!







https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920714&CC=US&NR=5130608A&KC=A


In one example, the module circuit is adjusted to produce 4,000 pulses per second with a pulse width of about 10 microseconds (with an average resting interval of about 240 microseconds), a load of 100 ohms, and a charging potential of 100 volts.

                                   10 microseconds on and 240 microseconds off from 250 microseconds interval = 4% on and 96% off

Using Ohm's Law, these conditions would produce 100 watts of peak power. Using Equation I, the average power in the Example 1 can thus be calculated, i.e., about 4 watts.


                                                ( Ohms law is steady current calculating.not with on/off phases ! )


 Assuming that the power dissipated in the module itself is approximately 8 watts,


the total average energy consumed is the sum of energy expenditure due to load and energy dissipated in the working module, namely a grand total of about 12 watts.


Clearly, the average power consumed in the pulsed incandescence of a light bulb under the control of the inventive module of this example is as low as almost one-tenth the amount consumed in a conventional AC power supply for an incandescent light bulb.




http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=WO&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A2&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2012065719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


Experiments by the applicant have shown that the circuit arrangement is particularly efficient when the electrical load is a light source in the form of an incandescent lamp or in the form of a light-emitting diode. For example, a lamp that could only be operated on a 12 volt accumulator in continuous operation for 25 minutes could be operated in pulse mode with the same accumulator for 65 minutes. Furthermore, the applicant's experiments have shown that in the event that an electric motor is used as the load, a further capacitor can be connected in parallel in order to further increase the efficiency. Of course, an electrical heating element, for example in the form of a heating spiral, can also be used as a load.


                        from 25 minutes continuous to 65 minutes pulse mode operation : 160% improvement






                                 To speak over OU is difficult and without approvement not correct  and cause the on/off intervals very difficult to measure !


                                 For each OU-propagating device which works with on/off cycles,bucking coils independent !

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #162 on: June 20, 2020, 07:13:17 PM »
And could anyone translate several pages from Russian? There is interesting material ...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #163 on: June 21, 2020, 09:53:39 AM »
Chris,

You read and study a lot about Sweet Floyd.
I did also.
As you do, I think also that magnets are.for.decoration only.
But, at the time he was under lots of eyes and he was obligated to show scheme to investor.
Under that kind of pressure where he could hide true scheme of circuit?

There are 2 circuits involved.
One is about device itself and everyone is concentrated on that one.
The other is for conditioning magnet, which nobody looks at.

What if conditioning circuit holds secret while circuit of device is distraction.

What do you think?
He was clever enough to make this kind of plane site deception.
And nobody will ever notice.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Builders Group - Moderated!
« Reply #164 on: June 21, 2020, 10:43:38 AM »
Chris,

You read and study a lot about Sweet Floyd.
I did also.
As you do, I think also that magnets are.for.decoration only.
But, at the time he was under lots of eyes and he was obligated to show scheme to investor.
Under that kind of pressure where he could hide true scheme of circuit?

There are 2 circuits involved.
One is about device itself and everyone is concentrated on that one.
The other is for conditioning magnet, which nobody looks at.

What if conditioning circuit holds secret while circuit of device is distraction.

What do you think?
He was clever enough to make this kind of plane site deception.
And nobody will ever notice.


Hey Whatisit,

With no doubt in my mind, Magnet Conditioning is Fake!

Magnets did have a purpose however, I believe they were used, like we use in External Fields in Spintronics and NMR, the Copper Atoms did have a Polarity to the External Field. This external Field is used in the Precession Frequency Equation, and changes the Frequency depending on the External Field Strength.

Also, and this is important, if you want to use a Core, the Magnets Bias the Core to a point, close but not in Saturation.

I am not going to debate if Floyd Sweet used a Core or not, its up to you to decide on that!

Best wishes stay safe and well in these dire times,
   Chris Sykes

 

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