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Author Topic: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20  (Read 4459 times)

Offline conradelektro

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2020, 07:55:45 PM »
Oh the data...
You mean like all the data and video from the navy fighter jet tracking a real UFO with military grade sensor technology?.  The video and the data do not lie.

I do not understand why you always write abut these "navy fighter videos". I looked at them and I see that SOMETHING takes off at high speed. But nobody can know WHAT that was.

So, dream whatever you want, but be reasonable. You can not extract more data from the videos than SOMETHING was there, the rest is speculation. You may speculate, but that is not knowing.

Yes, it is my fault that I react to your speculations. I will shut up.

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2020, 08:00:22 PM »
Oh the data...
You mean like all the data and video from the navy fighter jet tracking a real UFO with military grade sensor technology?.  The video and the data do not lie.
Yeah! you need a demonic power for that, buy a swann security system with IR cameras put one in your living room and bedroom
and see what you pick up  8) :o ;D that going put the shits up you!

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2020, 08:25:27 PM »

I do not understand why you always write abut these "navy fighter videos". I looked at them and I see that SOMETHING takes off at high speed. But nobody can know WHAT that was.


So, dream whatever you want, but be reasonable. You can not extract more data from the videos than SOMETHING was there, the rest is speculation. You may speculate, but that is not knowing.


And it does not help to insult me, I am not speculating, you are making claims, not me. Yes, it is my fault that I react to your speculations, but I am reasonable, you are not. But you are free to be as you like. I will shut up, because it is hopeless to talk to a believer, reason is missing.


Greetings, Conrad


Hey Conrad,


What part of unidentified don't you understand?  That video and many many personal sightings all have the same thing in common.  The objects are UNIDENTIFIED.  Do you get it?  They are called UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS.  That means they are not IDENTIFIED.  So why do you keep insisting that UFOs do not exist?



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Carroll

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
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Offline conradelektro

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2020, 09:48:23 PM »
Hey Conrad,

What part of unidentified don't you understand?  That video and many many personal sightings all have the same thing in common.  The objects are UNIDENTIFIED.  Do you get it?  They are called UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS.  That means they are not IDENTIFIED.  So why do you keep insisting that UFOs do not exist?

Respectfully,
Carroll

You have entangled me in a nice word game.

I do indeed understand that these are unidentified flying objects. But I do not understand why one knows that these objects are from another planet or are piloted by aliens or are fabricated by aliens. This is what some claim and what I dispute. The "navy fighter videos" do not allow to draw the conclusion that the word "unidentified" means "alien or extraterrestrial in any way". I might well be, but one can not derive it logically from these videos.

But it is not my task to convince a believer that his belief is not proven. Belief needs no proof.

But if Caroll wants to win an argument, he shall win. I am sure he can prove everything he claims with many words.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2020, 02:31:55 AM »
Many will claim these sightings are from another planet, inner space, outer space, hollow earth , under water, demons, angles or what ever.

The fact is they are unidentified flying something, nobody really knows.
The bible has some information and the book of Enoch also, these are said to be falling angels in the flesh.
In the book of Enoch it talks about falling angles that showed man how to make weapons of war, they also showed women how to look more beautiful with makeup to seduce men.
What ever you like to believe, you would need some evidence to back it up.
Who knows!


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Offline onepower

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2020, 08:12:17 AM »
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I do not understand why you always write abut these "navy fighter videos". I looked at them and I see that SOMETHING takes off at high speed. But nobody can know WHAT that was.

So, dream whatever you want, but be reasonable. You can not extract more data from the videos than SOMETHING was there, the rest is speculation. You may speculate, but that is not knowing.

Yes, it is my fault that I react to your speculations. I will shut up.

Why would you shut up?, you asked a reasonable question not involving gods or evil demons... well done, carry on.

I would agree it is video from a modern military jet of an object or craft seen moving at high speed. However I believe that from the sensor/video data which includes velocity, direction etc. they concluded it was moving at around 20,000 mph or so. Do you see the problem?, yes it was a craft of some sort which may or may not have been piloted by who knows what. That is not the point, we have data thus facts to prove there are unidentified craft doing things which defy our understanding of physics similar to free energy... this is my point.

Sure some connect UFO's and aliens however I have never seen an alien only a UFO so I do not know if aliens exist. Personally I think people lose it when someone say's "alien" because the supposed aliens would obviously know all about our past... wink, wink. You know, our beginning, the god religion debate, dinosaurs, pyramids and all the other stuff. So if aliens did exist obviously they would represent a real threat to most peoples beliefs because they would know the real truth about our past versus all the nonsense most believe.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2020, 05:08:26 PM »
Onepower..what is this "Shoot them down stuff " ??
who shot what down ....?
sorry if I don't follow all the "info" ...but just following your thoughts on how advanced"they" could be ??
how could this be possible ?30,000 MPH in less that one second ??seems UFO could fly back around the attacking craft and throttle way back... slow down and look at the bullets being thrown by whomever ??
Never sat right with me ..this " shot them down stuff"...
I would understand a military feeling threatened by unresponsive "thing" in a sensitive area.
I suspect finding someone in your home uninvited would probably have similar effect on you ?

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2020, 05:45:22 PM »
Conrad
Why would you shut up?, you asked a reasonable question not involving gods or evil demons... well done, carry on.

I would agree it is video from a modern military jet of an object or craft seen moving at high speed. However I believe that from the sensor/video data which includes velocity, direction etc. they concluded it was moving at around 20,000 mph or so. Do you see the problem?, yes it was a craft of some sort which may or may not have been piloted by who knows what. That is not the point, we have data thus facts to prove there are unidentified craft doing things which defy our understanding of physics similar to free energy... this is my point.

Sure some connect UFO's and aliens however I have never seen an alien only a UFO so I do not know if aliens exist. Personally I think people lose it when someone say's "alien" because the supposed aliens would obviously know all about our past... wink, wink. You know, our beginning, the god religion debate, dinosaurs, pyramids and all the other stuff. So if aliens did exist obviously they would represent a real threat to most peoples beliefs because they would know the real truth about our past versus all the nonsense most believe.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

Yeah Death Vader Reticulli, aren’t we supposed to be mates with them from Planet Serpio.
Din’t you watch full metal jacket ? Them with guns need em shoving up there where the sun don’t shine cus it's revealed
They all cheared in the cinama when that GI shot loud mouth sargent bully more !l
loads of psycho countries with Norman Bates type control invested in Sars and (Covid-bat 19).

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Re: Dr.Steven Greer "Close encounters movie 4/7/20
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2020, 04:37:47 PM »
Ramset
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Onepower..what is this "Shoot them down stuff " ??
who shot what down ....?
sorry if I don't follow all the "info" ...but just following your thoughts on how advanced"they" could be ??
how could this be possible ?30,000 MPH in less that one second ??seems UFO could fly back around the attacking craft and throttle way back... slow down and look at the bullets being thrown by whomever ??
Never sat right with me ..this " shot them down stuff"...

In the close encounters documentary they showed video of a UFO in orbit above the Earth, the UFO then moved and an energy beam can be seen coming from Earth past where the UFO was. The problem here is that space is neutral territory thus when the U.S., I presume, fired on the craft they broke international laws. However as we know the U.S. government never really gave a shit about human rights or international laws. In any case I consider there action criminal.

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I would understand a military feeling threatened by unresponsive "thing" in a sensitive area.
I suspect finding someone in your home uninvited would probably have similar effect on you ?

In my home maybe, something unknown in my air space or in orbit not so much. Who are they to claim ownership or right to Earths atmosphere or space?. Those half-wit rednecks need to stop firing upon craft in neutral territory, more so on craft which may contain living beings with no intent to harm anyone. As I said, this is and should be considered unjustified hostility and a criminal act in violation of international law.

Regards
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