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### Author Topic: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy  (Read 22669 times)

#### nelsonrochaa

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##### Re: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2020, 07:38:12 PM »
How did you blind input?

How much AC source spend if it has only one capacitor in circuit? (or one inductor?)
Basic knowledge.
Source does not see capacitor, zero consumption.

Let's say that bucking field coil has only 0,1 ohm resistance, zero inductance, high gauge copper.
If we connect serial with that capacitor zero inductance bucking field coil of 0,1 ohm,
will the consumption of source change a lot or near nothing?

Can you extract energy from bucking fields while source consumes nothing?
Source is blind in that case.

Now, we are coming to essence of my current research.
How different arrangement of bucking electrical field only,
bucking magnetic field and both bucking fields together combined gives different solutions to that situation.

For example, bifilar bucking field coil has strong electrical field because the way it is wound.
(Floyd Sweet, kill magnetic field, double electrical field).
What will happen?
Just one example.

“Can you extract energy from bucking fields while source consumes nothing?”
I didn't say exactly that. ☺  What i try explain , is different . When I say blind the input, I’m referring to this scenario.
Imagine this example ;
the circuit have their input  connected to a power source , with a consume of 0.03A at 24v in idle mode , without any load at output . This output is full isolated from the input by a transformer .  When you short the output , or connect a load is expectable that the input current increase correct ?  This could be prevented in the way how the coils are winded make something like a valve . In fact in the my circuit example , if i connect a bipolar capacitor to charge in the output , the input current reduce to half of initial value , returning to its initial value as soon as the capacitor is full.
Displays a negative curve when charging the capacitor.
Or even you simply short the output , the current in input will reduce in same way .

I hope I was clearer this time because English is not my native language sorry .

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#### nelsonrochaa

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##### Re: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2020, 07:50:59 PM »

So is the circuit self oscillating only 2 or 3 wires toddle off unseen some where, you must perhaps use some sort of vfo with feed back locking
I would have thought and the other problem is the output isolation use of the mains filter and choke. Which is a little mind boggling
with out seeing how your advanced mind knowledge has sorted that one out  as i said I’m unprofessional but like experimenting on a
Educational level.

Regards Raymondo

Hi Rymondo

My head is no more the same now i'm remember that post  .
Yes that circuit work in auto-resonance mode without and input from outside . I need to give a "kick"  to circuit start oscillating , after that the tank circuit give the needed feedback to the circuit continue oscillating .
And yes the isolation is made with a choke . Is 1:1 choke , so in the output is full isolated. from output . but could be other type of coil or transformer.
Why your show interest in that circuit ?  ask me if you have any doubt .

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#### AlienGrey

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##### Re: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2020, 01:03:34 AM »
Nelson hi yes it was last year some time I was interested in that circuit your discussing now
It does look rather like the circuit IVO has been using that's obviously yours.

I think it's brilliant but if as your saying it can self oscillate that’s even better any way I cant really see you giving it away or selling
The know how to the loan armature any time soon a pity really as it would perhaps be a sauce of useful light around the house ect.

Any way nice to see you on here again

AG

#### nelsonrochaa

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##### Re: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2020, 04:41:38 AM »
Nelson hi yes it was last year some time I was interested in that circuit your discussing now
It does look rather like the circuit IVO has been using that's obviously yours.

I think it's brilliant but if as your saying it can self oscillate that’s even better any way I cant really see you giving it away or selling
The know how to the loan armature any time soon a pity really as it would perhaps be a sauce of useful light around the house ect.

Any way nice to see you on here again

AG

Hi AG ,
Hope you  goes well .
I really don’t want talk about that person …  I just decided to forget that name IV... .
changing subject ....
This small circuit  is not  tested is only a model and a idea  of something that could be scaled, but I’m not claim nothing like OU ok ?
To I claim something I need to make other measures and tests, but in this moment  I’m a bit limited in equipment .
I have a scope current probe but don’t have at moment scope so I made some current measure with my precision multimeter Rigoli but is everything very crude;
I left this new videos with more detail of some aspects of circuit .
Sorry by my poor english in the videos but is better then no voice and I think is more easy to follow the circuit.
It could be seen that input current decrease when the output is shorted  , and apparently the output current is higher then the input . I put the small filament bulbs in series on the input and output to be more easy visualize the current .
The output is full isolated from input, and is rectified from ac to dc to be more accurate measure   .

Vídeo 1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Qy4Wpo7rzfyKfdQ79
Video 2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/brsytsQWBsTwbxL3A
Video 3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Gz1Z6hwcSzjMGEAEA

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#### lancaIV

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##### Re: Alternative Partnered Output Coils and Free Energy
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2020, 05:37:00 PM »
As experimenter me would ever interest :
relationship : cw: cw  cw: ccw   ccw:cw  ccw:ccw

current form : direct - alternant - pulsed

coil input to coil output :  only the coils operating differences

coils - partnered,combined double,winding- input and coils output : only this coils effect operative differences

Coil  physical turning numbers

partnered coils physical  turning numbers

coils physical distance

Operation process :
stimulare,turn on ~ accelerare F = ma

to electro-magnetic                    F = BIL

W = Work= physical turning numbers x static-coil-rotative Ampere- turns

W=                                    winding turns x turn windings

Wind  to winden = turning ,rotating

Ampere- rotation or Ampere-turns = CURRENT

currere = german laufen infinitive as Nomen Lauf here in Physik KREISLAUF = circuit,cycle,rotation

Hertzian Kreislauf = Hertzian Schwingung

rotation from rotare means Drehen or (An)Turnen as same vertere also as nomen verter or con-/in- verter

KREISLAUF = CURRICULUM

Are here Physics-language An-alphabets in work ? And trial ?

in rotor as coil configuration /partnered coils configuration

and stator as coil configuration/ as partnered coils configuration

as " transformer / transverter" configuration

with different "geometric" poles numbers

each input as primary and each ss secondary,with different " virtual static poles"numbers

ambient temperature tests / fridge installation 5°-10° C / freezer installation -20°  - -10° C

#### AlienGrey

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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2020, 12:24:29 AM »
As experimenter me would ever interest :
relationship : cw: cw  cw: ccw   ccw:cw  ccw:ccw

current form : direct - alternant - pulsed

coil input to coil output :  only the coils operating differences

coils - partnered, combined double, winding- input and coils output : only this coils effect operative differences

Coil  physical turning numbers

partnered coils physical  turning numbers

coils physical distance

Hi are you thinking about the Akula grenade winding on the output stage of the device in the Dally thread ?
try connecting it up and seeing if the device will work in that mode (Partnered Output Coils) ,if not try loading the inner section with ferrite.

Please let us all know how you get on.
chears AG

#### AlienGrey

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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2020, 12:27:45 AM »
Hi Nelson, and thankd for the comments and the video clips, very educational thank you some interesting view point

PS your English is excelent, many thanks

AG

#### nelsonrochaa

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2020, 04:57:00 PM »
Hi Nelson, and thankd for the comments and the video clips, very educational thank you some interesting view point

PS your English is excelent, many thanks

AG

Hi AG hope you goes well .  i will publish the circuit diagram , i just need draw de diagram and measure the components values . My only problem will be measure the inductance of coils because i don't have equipment to that at moment  , but i will measure the resistance of the coil to give a reference .
Like i promise to you at 1 year ago, i will open-source this circuit and if you want, you could replicate them .

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#### AlienGrey

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2020, 05:47:09 PM »
Hi Nelson, Yes that would be realy good, I will do what I can to replicate the the device if thats ok

Many thank AG

#### rakarskiy

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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2020, 12:27:14 PM »
Meanwhile, Kiev, Ukraine (presentation of devices based on wave transmission). Not advertising, just informing

#### lancaIV

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2020, 12:41:36 PM »
Meanwhile, Kiev, Ukraine (presentation of devices based on wave transmission). Not advertising, just informing

Hello rakarsky !

A device for generating energy from the environment, let's do it this is called, as we still do not have a full explanation of the phenomenon. We supply the device from a standard 24V 2.2A battery, connect up to 300W of use. Working time at loading in one such stand with light bulbs - 30 hours.

theoretical 50 Wh battery capacity for up to ( 300Wp x 30 h = ) "9000 Wh" output ?

"radiant energy" output = lamps ,okay !

lamp light energy radiation comparison with conventional net-grid connected 300 W lamp ? Same ?

One "gain parameter " explained here :

As is well-known in the lighting art, fluorescent light is perceived continuous at 60 cycles AC per second, which is above the time-resolving ability of the eye or critical fusion frequency (CFF). Another- benefit on my present invention is to increase the longevity of incandescent load resistor elements.

The present invention is further to provide a network wherein, whenever the power transistor conducts, DC flows from the module through the light-emitting load for a time interval equal to the rectangular pulse width, and the resting time between light producing DC pulses, which is considerably greater than the pulse width, accounts cumulatively for a significant saving in energy. It is therefore a particular object to produce a preferred pulse repetition rate of more than about 1,000 cycles per second, and a preferred pulse width of about 10 microseconds.

In one example, the module circuit is adjusted to produce 4,000 pulses per second with a pulse width of about 10 microseconds (with an average resting interval of about 240 microseconds), a load of 100 ohms, and a charging potential of 100 volts. Using Ohm's Law, these conditions would produce 100 watts of peak power. Using Equation I, the average power in the Example 1 can thus be calculated, i.e., about 4 watts. Assuming that the power dissipated in the module itself is approximately 8 watts, the total average energy consumed is the sum of energy expenditure due to load and energy dissipated in the working module, namely a grand total of about 12 watts. Clearly, the average power consumed in the pulsed incandescence of a light bulb under the control of the inventive module of this example is as low as almost one-tenth the amount consumed in a conventional AC power supply for an incandescent light bulb.

device operative frequency ?

This device with a fixed nominal rpm motor connected : ? Tests ?
Motor equpped with  "conventional coils" or "capacitive coils" ?

capacitors works also in function as : filter,neutralizer,harmonizer

Let me make virtual such a concept :

The Yusuf Indrawan transformer + a. Dragan Kovac seriell connection

b. Gricourt lamps concept

c. Imris opto-electric converter seriell lamps connection

electric input versus radiant energy output  ?

making unknown phaenomens conventional

#### rakarskiy

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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2020, 01:38:07 PM »
lancaIV, good time! Why do you think that the device works on the principle of getting something from the environment? You really think there is an environment where there are a lot of electrons in kilograms that can be taken by buckets. Modern science, with a 100% guarantee, can not answer what is the electric current in the wire. This publication presents a revolutionary approach to understanding modern processes. ( https://idoorway.mirtesen.ru/blog/43208208685/Vizualizatsiya-strukturyi-magnitnogo-polya-Zemli-(efira)-rassmat?nr=1&utm_referrer=mirtesen.ru ) true, the material is in Russian, but I think that similar views exist in the English-speaking society. I start with what I want to get, and that's the current in the circuit. In this case, there is an electric field and current in the wire. In a mechanical generator, for example, we first get a polarized electric field through a magnetic field, and only then a current in the circuit, provided that it is closed.

Current is the resulting force, not the flow. You just need to create the conditions for the manifestation of this force in the circuit. First the electrodynamics of the process, and then the method for fulfilling the condition.

#### lancaIV

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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2020, 01:50:00 PM »
Mr."rakarsky", I did not decide !
I let give "grand-master Google translator" , in and with all his "interpretation freedome" ,
the decision to translate the ukrainian texte below the vid into "google translator english" !

Btw : did YOU NOT read the ukrainian texte ?

I am washing my hands in "UNSCHULD" ,believe me ,

I do only an " information" hiob/ job/messenge,
cause neither I nor some other members in the forum read,speaks,understand ukrainian language,in minimum I think so !

In google translator how much trust( by real experience ) ? Okay, relatively cheap service

Is your " inhaustable energy source potential " probably "Vakuumenergiefeldkraft" related ?

Caution : In-ex-hausetable is " applied shown stupidity" of no Latin- language professionals !

Probably,for some in Quarantaene(40= quarenta days isolation,original from Venice/Venezia/Venedig),in hope of shorter time-period :
energy/force field         and       speed/velocity

Ostern : Eier suchen ( not " tomates ",Playboy-Bunny -Bunnies ,OKAY ! ) Fest der Fruchtbarkeit

#### rakarskiy

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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2020, 02:29:35 PM »
Ukrainian is even more difficult than Russian (since it is closer to old Slavonic). However, any automatic transfer has its negative aspects. The meaning is that the electric current in the wire can't be a flow of electrons. CURRENT is a linear field of force, the result of counteracting an electric polarized field, at the moment of its balancing. If you twist a button on a thread, the force manifestation has the form of a spiral. Sunlight and magnetic lines of force, also spirals.

#### lancaIV

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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2020, 03:33:39 PM »
"Current is a ...." or "Currents are .... "

as direct or alternating currents

positive mainstream and negative beside streams and
negative mainstreams  and positive beside streams

Positive and negative ever movement scalar direction = F + arrows above  and F kind below for vector

strumere der Strom the Stream  fluere der Flusz the Flux

Ukrainian is more difficult than Russian ? I do not know it ! Never one from these lingual instruments learned !

Virus and Virion !     Light and Wave  : Dualitaet       Max Planck : Quantenpaar and Plancks Konstante

WIRKUNGSQUANTUM

When  we goes to : field force and force field : how much pressure defines this force ?

force= Kraft pressure= Druck   KRAFT-DRUCK torque momentum angle degree from Geo  400° or 360° base ?

Traseunte ?
law of conservation of energy                                                    law of conservation of momentum

Material Memory + Memory- effect included in these laws ?
How behaves material wih N1,N10,N..... purity ? resistance

Why in wafer semi-conductor industry they " dote", making materials "dirty" ?

You ,rakarsky,should know that you write here your meanings and opinions in english and I translate this in my day-by-day used language :
neuronal german ,a polygraphic( not lie detector but more 3d printer CNC)  4-d think profile

It is by many learners said that german is the most difficult language in the world

Let us say : it is the most techno-tronical language in the world

Bio-materials Geomaterials An-/organic Poly-/Mono- mere Memory  + " Verduennung"- process

Le Chatelier principle Das Gesetz des kleinsten Zwanges ( Zwang ~ En-/Force )

Plancksche Wirkungsquantum E= hf    h = Konstante f = frequency E= energy

FOR BOTH ? PHOTON and PHONON,or restricted for PHOTON

HOW MANY PHOTON EQUATES 1 PHONON ?

I know,easy questions,indeed : no ukrainian neither russian nor german !

Spiral: whirl or Vortex or Swirl
By furacao or huricans we have this movements circumventing the "Kalmen/Calm center/Aug'e"
smaller as tornado or as winddirection indicator " windhose"

This rotative force "wand/wall " as analogon,now "hard" : tubes and small Nanotubes,inside pseudovacuum

Einstein " whormholes" : micro black and white holes = tunnel/channel white and black light spectrum
Stefan-Boltzmann white and black body and konstante
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