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synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #195 on: May 17, 2020, 09:18:45 PM »
The steel carriage bolt would be attracted to the ring magnets and kill any rotation! Turned upside down, the rings would spin longer with the carriage bolts removed from the underside then if attached.

magnetman12003

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #196 on: May 17, 2020, 09:29:27 PM »
The steel carriage bolt would be attracted to the ring magnets and kill any rotation! Turned upside down, the rings would spin longer with the carriage bolts removed from the underside then if attached.


I put the steel carriage bolt there to show the 2 ceramic wheels under  the wood disk while I took the picture.  It means nothing here except to separate???

synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #197 on: May 17, 2020, 09:35:24 PM »

I put the steel carriage bolt there to show the 2 ceramic wheels under  the wood disk while I took the picture.  It means nothing here except to separate???


They're still gonna stick.

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #198 on: May 17, 2020, 09:48:20 PM »

They're still gonna stick.
That’s incorrect. I just tried ( 2 ) six inch carriage bolts without weights on them on my setup without the tumblers just using my fingers and my setup turns quickly.  Soon as I get my tumblers mounted I will be showing a hand free video.  There is no sticky spot or wobble just a straight counter clockwise turn from the get go.  You can produce a clockwise turn by reversing  the drawn image  Shown on page 10

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #199 on: May 17, 2020, 09:53:24 PM »
A Gibraltar TALL ( There is short ones)  flanged base cymbal sleeve 8mm is what pivots the 1/4 inch thick wood base I have
The mounted wood setup is under of a old 45 black record.  Cymbal  sleeve Found on EBay.

The 50x 25x 10mm  (4 each) cuboid magnets are set at 45 degree angles by
45 degree brackets silver furniture angle joint corner support. Both Found on EBay.
I am going to enclose a photo of the two all ceramic wheels separating the wood setup disk from the
Large ceramic ring magnet under it.

Tom

Thank you Tom for the explanations, the photos and the disclosure. Everybody who wants to experiment is able to do that now. And I am sure You will show us your invention once you have the tumblers. I also experience huge shipping delays in this world wide virus crisis.

I hope critics will realise that a full disclosure of ideas is rare. Please applaud Tom and stop giving him a hard time. He has come forward.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #200 on: May 17, 2020, 10:13:35 PM »
Thank you Tom for the explanations, the photos and the disclosure. Everybody who wants to experiment is able to do that now. And I am sure You will show us your invention once you have the tumblers. I also experience huge shipping delays in this world wide virus crisis.

I hope critics will realise that a full disclosure of ideas is rare. Please applaud Tom and stop giving him a hard time. He has come forward.

Greetings, Conrad


@Conradelectro,


This guy is a bonafide braunschwigger. Give me a break; You're causing me to have an ambulance level laugh attack!

conradelektro

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #201 on: May 17, 2020, 10:57:58 PM »
@Conradelectro,

This guy is a bonafide braunschwigger. Give me a break; You're causing me to have an ambulance level laugh attack!

First, it's "Braunschweiger" https://www.janatuerlich.at/produkt/bio-braunschweiger/ and you should not resort to name calling.

Whatever Tom has, it will play itself out, give it time. And if someone has done experiments without results, at least it was fun. One has to have an open mind in these forums. You really think someone gives a true invention away for free? The beauty in these forums are the people who show up not the things they claim.

Greetings, Conrad

magnetman12003

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #202 on: May 17, 2020, 11:17:43 PM »
First, it's "Braunschweiger" https://www.janatuerlich.at/produkt/bio-braunschweiger/ and you should not resort to name calling.

Whatever Tom has, it will play itself out, give it time. And if someone has done experiments without results, at least it was fun. One has to have an open mind in these forums. You really think someone gives a true invention away for free? The beauty in these forums are the people who show up not the things they claim.

Greetings, Conrad


I am a 79 year old man and the C virus would probably kill me.  Anyways I have been staying inside my home only to venture out in a car for a short time wearing a mask. I do all my shopping online including groceries.  What I have shown is what I believe is what future motors will look like when I am finished.  All is open source info.  When I have shown my motor in operation I plan to sell it outright to the highest bidder to cover my cost in making it and then some.  They could patent it or do what they want from that point. In the meantime  every one can make it if they wished. My only hope is to be remembered as the guy who invented it.


Tom

synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #203 on: May 18, 2020, 08:22:15 AM »
Tom states he's unsure of the carriage bolt material, but he also states it sticks to the block magnet. I believe they are low grade magnetic stainless steel.

Lowering the top with 4 bolts attached to within 1/2" of the two coupled ring magnets beneath would cause the four large magnetic carriage bolts to stick fast to the rings. There is no way anything on that setup could ever spin!

Tom's first design did not share that outstanding "Lock Up" feature. 79 years is enough time to produce a loose screw.

conradelektro

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #204 on: May 18, 2020, 11:46:52 AM »
I am a 79 year old man and the C virus would probably kill me.  Anyways I have been staying inside my home only to venture out in a car for a short time wearing a mask. I do all my shopping online including groceries.  What I have shown is what I believe is what future motors will look like when I am finished.  All is open source info.  When I have shown my motor in operation I plan to sell it outright to the highest bidder to cover my cost in making it and then some.  They could patent it or do what they want from that point. In the meantime  every one can make it if they wished. My only hope is to be remembered as the guy who invented it.

Tom

"What I have shown is what I believe is what future motors will look like when I am finished."   So, it is not finished in the sense of not self-turning?

"All is open source info."  Open source is hard to sell, everybody can just take it for free!

"When I have shown my motor in operation I plan to sell it outright to the highest bidder to cover my cost in making it and then some."  Once it is truly shown in an open forum the bidding is over and one is left with the costs!

"They could patent it or do what they want from that point." You patent it then you show it, not the other way round. One can not patent disclosed things, they have become common good.

"My only hope is to be remembered as the guy who invented it."  Nobody has invented the habit of making false claims, it is human nature, even apes, dolphins and some parrots know how to do it!

What I have said in this forum several times:

Outlandish inventions (if ever they do exist, like OU or self turning permanent magnet motors, antigravity) are very difficult to handle. Patenting is of no use, because every military or government must secure it for their people or lose the competition for power. Like the atomic bomb, every powerful nation has got it. The same goes with selling. If something is very important, the world will just take it. So, if you have invented something really important, shut up, run and hide. You could try to disclose it anonymously, but you will be tracked down and dealt with.

But besides the atomic bomb and other weapons (e.g the rocket, explosives or guns) there never was an outlandish invention. All other good inventions needed some time to ripen and ownership was diluted till it hit the market or became useful (e.g. the steam engine, transistors, electric motors, all sorts of electric lights, electronics in general, and so on, look around you, who invented the mobile phone or central heating?). Patenting is about little steps in the development of technology. Most important things are discoveries, you can not patent things you observe in nature or in the universe in general (like the "laws" or better said "relationships" in physics, chemistry or mathematics).

Keep on dreaming, inventing and claiming, it is fun to watch. I have invented antigravity, my desk has no feet, it floats. But I am clever, I keep it for myself, no photos, no hints, it is totally secret.

Greetings, Conrad

magnetman12003

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #205 on: May 18, 2020, 07:22:11 PM »
Tom states he's unsure of the carriage bolt material, but he also states it sticks to the block magnet. I believe they are low grade magnetic stainless steel.

Lowering the top with 4 bolts attached to within 1/2" of the two coupled ring magnets beneath would cause the four large magnetic carriage bolts to stick fast to the rings. There is no way anything on that setup could ever spin!

Tom's first design did not share that outstanding "Lock Up" feature. 79 years is enough time to produce a loose screw.
The bolts did not stick fast to the large ring magnet but spun with a finger touch without the tumbler in place and the bolts are angled and touching the 45 degree magnet (All done with fingers) All needed now are my tumblers.
Tom

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #206 on: May 19, 2020, 08:10:50 AM »
I rather should not, but I decided to give a little hint and an inconclusive photo of my antigravity desk. If you enter my study you will see a desk with feet, but the feet float 2 millimeters (5/64 inches) above the floor. One can only see that by sliding a sheet of paper between the floor and the bottom of a foot. In this way the invention is well hidden from prying eyes.

I suspect that magnetman12003's permanent magnet motor is in fact an antigravity contraption and he hides it as a motor. A clever ploy.

I always advice to not speak about an invention in an open forum (to be able to patent and sell it later on). But magnetman12003 and me, we both could not resist the temptation to brag a bit about our invention (as so many in this forum). Of course the essential details are not shown, they will be in the patent.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #207 on: May 19, 2020, 11:44:27 AM »
"Of course the essential details are not shown".[/size]

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Perhaps to conceal a hidden power source! Magnetman12003 has demonstrated a few very powerful magnet spinners. Placing one out of sight can produce remote effects.[/size]

synchro1

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #208 on: May 19, 2020, 11:45:30 AM »
                                       "Of course the essential details are not shown".


Perhaps to conceal a hidden power source? Magnetman12003 has demonstrated a few very powerful magnet spinners. Placing one out of sight could easily produce "Poltergeist" effects from a distance. The erect magnetic bolts would serve as sails for the flux vortex.

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #209 on: May 19, 2020, 02:34:49 PM »
                                       "Of course the essential details are not shown".
Perhaps to conceal a hidden power source? Magnetman12003 has demonstrated a few very powerful magnet spinners. Placing one out of sight could easily produce "Poltergeist" effects from a distance. The erect magnetic bolts would serve as sails for the flux vortex.

Are Poltergeist and flux vortex really a better explanation than antigravity? What about ether radiation or zero point energy, much better is a Tesla charge from a bifilar pancake coil?

I think there is a bifilar pancake coil (à la Tesla) hidden in the wooden disk of the magnetman12003 invention and the "high tension which is converted into energy stored between the bifilar windings" causes anti gravity. If you look carefully at the short video published bei Tom you can see the light distortion which always comes hand in hand with anti gravity. I see this peculiar and telling light distortion also around my anti gravity desk, but it is hard to capture on video. (Therefore no video!)

Guess where the pancake coil is hidden in my anti gravity desk (hint: what is big, horizontal, rather thin and flat on a desk)?

Greetings, Conrad