Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83730
  • *Latest: allez9

  • *Total Posts: 517565
  • *Total Topics: 15429
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 24
  • *Total: 27

Author Topic: All Permanent Magnet Motor  (Read 23182 times)

Offline magnetman12003

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 849
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2020, 08:20:25 PM »

Big ring magnet at the bottom. 4 flat magnets placed in opposition at 45 degrees to the big ring magnet. Those 4 magnets placed on a ring plate, which is mounted freely on a rod, serving just as a guideline. The plate can move freely up and down. The gravity doing the rest.
Close?


Your idea is very close to what I have shown.  Missing only one small part hidden in the blurred image.
Make this part and it works.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2020, 08:20:25 PM »

Offline norman6538

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 496
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2020, 10:20:20 PM »
This is getting ridiculous. As I said  before keyboarding is so easy but not working with your hands. Most kids today could not even cut a straight cut with a hacksaw.

Norman

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4090
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2020, 11:13:23 PM »
The piston is a diametric tube from a synchronous washtub motor: Watch the Kick!
It's easier for the piston to travel down for the 1/2 rotation; The kick would be enough to raise the piston if it could ratchet back without the 1/2 upward turn, but the new pressure would have to come from increased weight and I don't know where it would come from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6DzQOn4RTc

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2020, 11:13:23 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Airstriker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
    • anonimowosc.org
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2020, 11:35:52 PM »
The piston is a diametric tube from a synchronous washtub motor: Watch the Kick!
It's easier for the piston to travel down for the 1/2 rotation; The kick would be enough to raise the piston if it could ratchet back without the 1/2 upward turn, but the new pressure would have to come from increased weight and I don't know where it would come from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6DzQOn4RTc


This is cool but wtf does it have to do with this thread???!!!
Guys stop hijacking somebody's threads! This forum already looks like piece of shit because of that.

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4090
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2020, 11:49:19 PM »

This is cool but wtf does it have to do with this thread???!!!
Guys stop hijacking somebody's threads! This forum already looks like piece of shit because of that.


@Airstriker,


Show us something you built that works, or shut yourself.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2020, 11:49:19 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline pulp

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 63
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2020, 10:01:00 PM »
Missing only one small part hidden in the blurred image.
Make this part and it works

This part is a small motor and a battery below the base ring magnet and it will work for sure.

Offline ayeaye

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 853
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2020, 11:10:15 AM »
This part is a small motor and a battery below the base ring magnet and it will work for sure.

Please you stop here laughing at these people. Why do you assume that they are dishonest people, without knowing that? There are many dishonest people, but one should know how to find out. As much as i know Magnetman, he really honestly tries to research overunity. He may misunderstand something and may make wrong conclusions, but this is not helpful to improve it.


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2020, 11:10:15 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4090
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2020, 01:30:00 PM »
@Airstriker,


Surly you can see the similarity of my pressure to rotary motion and the working principle Magnetman is using.


Placing downward pressure on the 4 block magnets at 45 degrees is supposed to make the ring magnet spin when in opposition polarity? This effect was mentioned by you above; Can you upload a video of this effect?


This alone would amount to perpetual motion if it worked.

Offline Airstriker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
    • anonimowosc.org
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2020, 01:31:13 AM »

Your idea is very close to what I have shown.  Missing only one small part hidden in the blurred image.
Make this part and it works.
Is this part stationary or dynamic? Is it one element or a set of elements? Thanks for sharing by the way.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2020, 01:31:13 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Airstriker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
    • anonimowosc.org
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2020, 01:28:24 PM »

Your idea is very close to what I have shown.  Missing only one small part hidden in the blurred image.
Make this part and it works.


Ha! I knew I have already seen it before! You're Tom! Tom that has inspired me since 2011 :) I know what your missing part is! :)
Glad to see you back with the updated design! But please tell me, because last time we spoke you said that what made it working was the needed instability (imperfection in the setup) and when you fixed it (used fine materials) it went to equilibrium very quickly. It seems not to be the case with this design (the basic principle still remains here). Also gravity seems not to be needed any more, right?
Also what always wondered me - is it self regulating in terms of speed, or constantly accelerating?


BTW Why not finally open source it completely? There are many ways to do it right if you want your share (which is fully understood). I also think it might be problematic in terms of patenting bacause you have already published publically too many clues. The attorney for sure would tell you more here.


Again, nice to see you back!

Offline magnetman12003

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 849
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2020, 10:15:24 PM »
Here is the open source description of the motor.
First you must buy a couple of 190 mm ceramic ring magnets, make a round wood centerpiece for both of them and put a 12 inch  8 mm non magnetic rod through the center of each wood piece.
The bottom magnet should not be able to move.  The top magnet must easily spin with its “”SAME””
Polarity facing the bottom magnet.


Now you must buy or fashion 45 degree wood or aluminum blocks and bond them onto the top large ceramic magnet.  In a circular form.   Up to now you will be able to spin the motor easily with your fingers.
Now for the interesting part. Powerful neo block magnets must be bonded onto the top side of each 45 degree angle.
By extending the “””LENGHT “”” of the 45 degree angles considerably we now will be able to get
The setup to rotate.  How to do this is by bonding 6 inch polycarbonate tubes to the underside or topside of
Each of the four 45 degree angles.  Inside the tubes are placed neo rod magnets that oppose the polarity of the block magnets.   Now the GRAVITY weight of these extensions will cause the setup to rotate hands free.
I hope all this information is useful in your individual builds.
ALL ABOVE INFORMATION IS OPEN SOURCE.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2020, 01:09:44 AM by magnetman12003 »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2020, 10:15:24 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline gyulasun

  • without_ads
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4021
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2020, 11:52:05 PM »
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the description, it sounds interesting.  Perhaps a short video with good camera focusing
on the setup when you let the rotor start rotating from a stand still would be also helpful. 
I know your previous video was deliberately out of focus.
Gyula

Offline magnetman12003

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 849
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2020, 11:52:56 PM »
Here is a photo of what it looks like without the polycarbonate and rod magnet extensions on the underside of the top 45 degree angles.

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4090
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2020, 01:38:11 PM »
magentman12003,


Will downward pressure from the 4 - 45 degree- block magnets impart spin motion in the opposed polarity magnet ring below?

Offline Airstriker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
    • anonimowosc.org
Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2020, 04:47:14 PM »
Here is a photo of what it looks like without the polycarbonate and rod magnet extensions on the underside of the top 45 degree angles.


Actually the missing part in the picture would be the most interesting one to see ;) What is that grey disc underneath the top plate? Did the initial video contain the rods? Also you're saying about two ring magnets (190mm) but both in the video and in the picture the second one is missing.
Thanks by the way for sharing all this! And as far as I can see it's a different design than I thought it is.

 

OneLink