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Offline magnetman12003

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All Permanent Magnet Motor
« on: March 28, 2020, 08:43:49 PM »
Hi All,
For many years I have had the idea that an ALL permanent magnet motor could be constructed”” EASILY””.
I am very close to realizing that idea.  I am putting the finishing touches on this simple to construct motor.
My question is just who might make me an offer to buy it outright before I go through the lengthy route of patenting it?
I plan to show it on this website after covering important parts.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 12:48:23 AM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2020, 06:23:42 PM »

Hi All,
For many years I have had the idea that an ALL permanent magnet motor could be constructed”” EASILY””.
I am very close to realizing that idea.  I am putting the finishing touches on this simple to construct motor.
My question is just who might make me an offer to buy it outright before I go through the lengthy route of patenting it?  This is real as I already had it running. It’s basketball sized and the speed can easily be changed from stop to extremely fast. TREMENDOUS torque. GRAVITY POWERS IT!!!
I plan to show it on this website after covering important parts.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 08:52:36 PM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2020, 08:56:55 PM »
From your wording I gather that your all permanent magnet motor is not finished and has never ran.

Once it is finished, the only thing I want to know is how long it runs without an external power source. No plans, no fotos, no details of any kind, just how long it runs on permanent magnets alone.

Just be honest and tell how long it runs.

If it ever runs longer than a day (from the permanent magnets alone), one can talk about money. Your post is way too premature. To talk about money at this stage is ridiculous. Patents can be filed for non working motors because patent offices do not check the validity of claims, one just has to pay the fees. But it is very hard to get money for a non working motor.

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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2020, 11:41:36 PM »
From your wording I gather that your all permanent magnet motor is not finished and has never ran.

Once it is finished, the only thing I want to know is how long it runs without an external power source. No plans, no fotos, no details of any kind, just how long it runs on permanent magnets alone.

Just be honest and tell how long it runs.

If it ever runs longer than a day (from the permanent magnets alone), one can talk about money. Your post is way too premature. To talk about money at this stage is ridiculous. Patents can be filed for non working motors because patent offices do not check the validity of claims, one just has to pay the fees. But it is very hard to get money for a non working motor.

Greetings, Conrad
Your correct in asking how long it runs.  From what I am seeing now it should run as long as a neo
Rod magnet has power opposing another neo magnet.  I have to cover exposed parts presently and
within a week I will post the motor working on this forum after I have it running for a recorded lenght
of time. This motor is entirely different then any motor out there by far.

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2020, 08:32:53 PM »
My question is just who might make me an offer to buy it outright before I go through the lengthy route of patenting it?
Same story every year...   ::)
https://overunity.com/18114/whats-a-magnet-gravity-motor-worth-to-you-new-way-of-thought/

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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 10:05:26 PM »
Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.

Offline norman6538

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 06:29:12 PM »
Without more information the most hopeful thing to me is Floor's TD (twist drive) found at TD replication and magnets and measurements. I have made 12 of these in different ways and they all measure overunity in the range of 300% up. His concept is - as two magnets at 90 degrees approach each other easily without any resistance they want to twist and by limiting their movement you can harvest that twist and compare it with the push together and pull apart (there is a little attraction when they twist) work.

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Offline ayeaye

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 06:55:36 PM »
His concept is - as two magnets at 90 degrees approach each other easily without any resistance they want to twist and by limiting their movement you can harvest that twist and compare it with the push together and pull apart (there is a little attraction when they twist) work

As i said, for overunity there have to be two paths with different energy, to the state of minimal energy potential, from outside of the fields. That is, we can like enter by the path with more energy, and leave by the path with less energy.

That magnets twist when approaching, by itself means no overunity. No matter how they approach. This is not different than moving two attracting magnets close to each other. Because this is in essence the same, the magnets twist because their poles attract. We sure get energy, but there is no continuous overunity. Doing such experiments is doing things with magnets, but it proves absolutely nothing. Unless one can show in a similar setup that the energy in different paths is different, but this somewhat differs, it is not the design of that experiment.

But this is not about the topic. Well, in a way it is. Cannot people here write their name in the title, so that all know that it is about their work, like their permanent magnet motor, and not any other, and not about how to make a permanent magnet motor in general, or such. Like "[magnetman12003] All permanent magnet motor". Because "All permanent magnet motor" is very general. Yes Magnetman12003 created the thread, but this doesn't make it clear that the thread is about his design.


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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 11:55:17 PM »
The previous poster has not made nor tested the idea in the Floor machine. I made 12 machines and they all have overunity. If a small force can release a larger force then overunity exists because work in is less than work out.

Its so easy to work the keyboard but not so the hacksaw, drill, plane, vise, hot glue gun after you get it into your head to make and test the Floor twist concept. Usually when I get and idea into my head it takes a day to 2 to make and test it.

 Its all about the correct embodiment and measurements.  I expect to have a capable self runner soon by manually moving the two weights lifted to
1. closing the magnets making the twist and lifting 2 weights and
2. opening the magnets to repeat step 1 above.

No it will not be a rotating motor.

That will demonstrate the concept but will not include the precision switching clockwork which will take months. I prefer to use marbles that just keep lifting and rolling because they are so undeniably  visible.

There is great hope for green permanent magnet power. Get testing and see for yourself.

Norman

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 01:06:52 AM »
Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.


Big ring magnet at the bottom. 4 flat magnets placed in opposition at 45 degrees to the big ring magnet. Those 4 magnets placed on a ring plate, which is mounted freely on a rod, serving just as a guideline. The plate can move freely up and down. The gravity doing the rest.
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Offline ayeaye

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2020, 02:36:34 AM »
If a small force can release a larger force then overunity exists because work in is less than work out.

I don't want to talk about it in this thread, but you did.

False, this is not enough for overunity. If you release an iron object near a magnet, then also work out is more than work in, but this is not a continuous overunity, and this is not the overunity we need or can even call overunity.

What do you call the overunity there? Can you state that exactly? Energy that you get from twisting is your output, this i think is certain.

What is your input? Only the work necessary to approach the twisting magnet, or the work necessary to approach the twisting magnet plus the work necessary to move away from the twisted magnet to the outside of the field?

I can also do experiments, but you did experiments, and i want to know your results.

Ok, i work more with the keyboard, though i have done experiments too with success, but i can ask questions, and i can think theoretically.

And, i cannot just test everything that is proposed. To test, the reason has to be said why that design supposed to have overunity. No reason has been said. The only reason said has been that the forces of the magnets balance each other, this is not a reason for overunity.


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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 07:29:51 PM »
Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.

I offer you a 100 Million Euros for that motor. Your video convinced me. Do not call or bring the motor, we will contact you.

Do not take out loans or spend more money than you can afford before you get the money from me. What ever you do you do at your own risk. I am not responsible for your actions.

Money promised is not money received. Like a magnet motor promised is no magnet motor delivered.

Greetrings, Conrad


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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2020, 07:41:18 PM »
I offer you a 100 Million Euros for that motor. Your video convinced me. Do not call or bring the motor, we will contact you.

Do not take out loans or spend more money than you can afford before you get the money from me. What ever you do you do at your own risk. I am not responsible for your actions.

Money promised is not money received. Like a magnet motor promised is no magnet motor delivered.

Greetrings, Conrad


magnetman12003,


I can pay you more then that!

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2020, 07:44:29 PM »
I made 12 machines and they all have overunity.
Norman

I also offer you 10 Million Euros for each of the 12 over unity machines. Your words convinced me.

Again, do not call or bring the machines, we will contact you. Again, do not act foolishly before you get the money. Your acts are your risk.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: All Permanent Magnet Motor
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2020, 07:47:54 PM »
magnetman12003,

I can pay you more then that!

Magnetman12003 be careful! "More" can be "less", better take the 100 Million.

Greetings, Conrad

 

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