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Title: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 05:08:24 PM
Heins uploaded 8 new videos and so i'll comment on it.

Firstly i believe his generators/motors do as he says and that effect is achieved by increased inductance which delays the lenz response at high enough speed....but how he explains it is flawed in various ways, some maybe intentionally.

Firstly, to remove his main nonsense, he claims infinite efficiency and yet claims his devices are not perpetual motion. His argument for this is that power produced would have to be stepped down in frequency to feed it back into the system "and thus it is not perpetual..". Total nonsense which i attribute to desire to distance from such term with negative connotations.

One of his main points is that his generators can "reduce needed mechanical power input by 80%.". For example in his prospect for 1 megawatt ReGenex generator he says both conventional and his 1MW generator need ~0.5MW to keep them spinning at no load (idle), and that at full load conventional generator needs 1.5 or 2MW to output 1MW while his needs even less than idle, around 0.4MW.

Despite obvious claim of 0.6MW above unity he sticks to ridiculous claim of 80% power input reduction. His main "argument" appeares to be that his generator cannot be closed looped which makes no sense, even if we account for all the losses of stepping down of frequency, 0.6MW of free energy is enough to keep the system self fed.

Now that i put that to rest, see how he explains the principle. Screenshot from the video below
depicts the comparison of load current sinewave for conventional vs regenex generator.

https://youtu.be/4cCx-AvyaD8?t=504

You will notice he placed the polarity change at the peak of the current. This is wrong. He says it clearly in the vid "when rotor magnet is top dead center to the coil's core is when voltage and current is max", this is actually when voltage and current are ZERO.

I mean this is basic stuff, look at voltage when magnets are in dead centers of the coils.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaIHJUf110

In this new video he claims "no energy is used to establish the magnetic field", yet obviously current is flowing from the battery.

He then claims only power dissipation is the copper losses and that only work being done electrically is generation of heat. He further claims if magnet was removed, same amount of energy would be consumed and that as heat only.

He apparently forgets the Laplace law F = ILxB describing force on a conductor in a magnetic field, as load increases, current in the conductor must increase to balance the forces: I = F/BL.

This means if magnet was removed or if mercury was replaced with some less dense liquid of same conductivity, less energy would be consumed. If this was not true all conventional motors would be overunity which they are clearly not.

Now i am not saying this cannot be bypassed, it clearly can if we are to believe him which i do, but his claim is off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbr3zyu0ojk
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2020, 06:13:13 PM
Thank you,for information !


https://de.slideshare.net/PDiCEOThaneHeins3240/thane-heins-bio-and-technology-background (https://de.slideshare.net/PDiCEOThaneHeins3240/thane-heins-bio-and-technology-background)


Also here it is written : 80% less input related conventional drive input


It would be a great step !


As in-wheel generator,as small wind/solar heat pressure/water converter and ic-engine-genset !


Or as motor-generator


About the efficiency gains from RegenX coils in electric motors nothing is to read



https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140253271A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140253271A1/en) reading this reminds capacitive coil reactive transformer from Dr. .... Pavel Imris


With a purely resistive load on the BiTT the primary power factor is virtually zero and the efficiency of the energy transfer is increased accordingly. If for example, the transformer primary power factor is reduced by 30% the transformer efficiency is also increased by 30%. As well as the applications mentioned above, this transformer can also be applied in chargers and in electric vehicles between the generator and the batteries and between the batteries and the motor.




Sincerely


OCWL


p.s.: being sceptical about number use https://www.qmpower.com/ (https://www.qmpower.com/)  up to less 80% power input


       but by  comparison with


      https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2018183783&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2018183783&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION)


For example, refrigeration fan motors in a low wattage range, e.g. 4 to 16 watts, used in both the commercial and residential refrigeration markets, have traditionally been low efficiency, such as around 12%-26% efficient. It would be desirable to provide technologies to address enhancements required in different classes of motors.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 06:57:22 PM
I got those slideshares, that is where i quote from. Point is infinite efficiency and 80% less input do NOT mix.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 07:04:46 PM
Slides
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 07:10:40 PM
Raymond Kromrey generator, acceleration under load.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7jrTj1lk1U
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2020, 07:19:53 PM
Thane Christopher Heins has to have improved this application concept


 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/050484710/publication/US10103591B2?q=pn%3DUS2014111054A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/050484710/publication/US10103591B2?q=pn%3DUS2014111054A1)

                     
because the technology only commercial save/granted for the U.S.A. market,not international valid, out U.S.A. = open source,no licence or fee paying


 PRIORITY DATES !
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: bistander on March 25, 2020, 07:31:49 PM
Hi nix85,

I made similar observations a few months ago here, or actually over there.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/14521-the-bistander-thread/page35#post496874

Clearly Thane has no idea what's going on.

Regards,

bi
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 07:48:44 PM
Hi nix85,

I made similar observations a few months ago here, or actually over there.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/14521-the-bistander-thread/page35#post496874

Clearly Thane has no idea what's going on.

Regards,

bi

Yea, same observation and good point.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 08:55:56 PM
I sketched what really happens when you delay induced current by 45° and clearly acceleration should not happen, even with 90° offset, nothing changes. Something else is at play.

Only if you offset the induced current by 150° or more, hopefully 180°, you should get acceleration cause only in that case coil starts to repell the magnet only after it crosses the mid point.


What is strange about this delaying of current is that when delayed current starts to flow, voltage is being induced that opposes it. Does this new voltage not cancel out the original voltage? If not, this implies inductors have "memory". Things get tricky.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: onepower on March 25, 2020, 10:38:08 PM
Nix85
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I got those slideshares, that is where i quote from. Point is infinite efficiency and 80% less input do NOT mix.

Did you think about what you just said?. If 100% efficiency is (input = output) or COP 1 and your input is 80% less than that then the real input is only 20% of the output. If we input 2 watts and we get 10 watts out, a 20% input, then obviously we could simply loop part of the output back to the input... you with me?.

Now pay attention because this is where I lose 99% of people. The moment we loop the circuit or close the input/output it then forms a circle which obviously has no beginning or end. Do you understand?, a circle is a closed loop having no beginning or end thus qualifies as infinite. In fact any output which exceeds the input and system losses qualifies as infinite because it is now self-sustaining. Here's the real brain fart, if you actually understand what was said above then the very notion of an input/output is rather a primitive concept isn't it?. It's not really a matter of any input vs output but how much extra or external energy the input can transform as an output which part then loops back to the input. Ergo input vs output or efficiency is a primitive concept and should be avoided.

As it were this does not actually violate the conservation of energy or mass because Feynman/Wheeler have already proven there is enough energy in a cup of empty space to boil all the worlds oceans. That's just space and all matter also holds more energy as kinetic energy than most people can imagine. So energy is the least of our problems.

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What is strange about this delaying of current is that when delayed current starts to flow, voltage is being induced that opposes it. Does this new voltage not cancel out the original voltage? If not, this implies inductors have "memory". Things get tricky.

That's debatable and an opposing voltage is not always induced when a current starts to flow in a conductor. I understand the reasons why are beyond your current understanding however this may not always be the case. When I looked at this years ago I asked a simple question, under what circumstances could a current ie free electrons, be forced to move in a conductor but not develop an opposing force we call Lenz Law?. Look at all the possible ways it can happen and your half way there, it took me 3 years.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 25, 2020, 11:14:55 PM
Nix85
Did you think about what you just said?...

The question is did YOU think before you wrote that drivel. Let me paint it simple for you, overunity systems by definition do not lower but ELIMINATE need for extrnal power intput.

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because Wheeler..

LOL, i could have expected you are follower of that clown who claims he discovered double vortexial nature of magnetic field ahahaha, HE HAS NO SHAME. Dielectric this dielectric that, what a parrot only most ignorant can fall for.

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That's debatable and an opposing voltage is not always induced when a current starts to flow in a conductor.

Opposing voltage IS always induced when there is is change of flux through the conductor.

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I understand the reasons why are beyond your current understanding

LOL, you remind me of myself years ago when i knew nothing but thought i knew everything. It might take you not 3 years but 3 lifetimes to get where i am at now and i have zero intention to brag.

Even with all i know now, how to cancel lenz, how to completely neutralize it, correct structure of the cosmic forcefield, that is, 6 axis of time and how they create illusion of 3d space, 4 great subforces, imablance of speed and density of two components of the Great Light and it's omnidirectional pressure in every point of space, x49 increase of density of matter, speed of light and rate of time flow for each of 7 "physical" planes, true nature of gravity and it's polar opposite, 2 ways to degravitate matter and how to produce the polar etheric current.. things you and your idol Wheeler don't have the slightest idea about, and still i am fully aware all i know is still very limited in the infinity. You on the other hand, know NOTHING.

So curb yourself down, kid, humble yourself, unless you want to remain at your present state of ignorance for good.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 12:36:22 AM
I think this is clear but i'll point it out anyway, you can see that with 45° offset as claimed by Heins, when magnet reaches the mid of the coil there is still 1/4 of the positive current phase left (red) and this 1/4 accelerates the magnet + at the same time approaching south pole magnet is attracted by the coil, these two gains combined MIGHT explain it (especially considering it is known that magnetic attraction is slightly stronger than the repulsion).

Besides, in one of those slides he says offset can be anywhere from 50 to 90°, so, that makes drag part smaller and repulsion bigger, so that should be it.


I do not recommend anyone to go down this path, think in simpler terms, right angles and air cores.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 01:44:20 AM
Yes,it is not easy.


Newton laws alone do not give results..


So we need Newton laws and these laws independent Eulers Drallsatz ( in calculation later to Planksche Wirkungsquantumzahl)




https://patents.google.com/patent/US9934897B1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9934897B1/en) Figure 17


Jack Hildenbrand magnetic valve : 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7453341B1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7453341B1/en)


The inventor made a valve comprising a permanent magnet and an electromagnet such as shown in FIGS. 6 and 7.
 The permanent magnet was individually capable of creating 70 lbs. of magnetic pull. In the first test, 8 watts of power (i.e., 5 volts DC at 1.6 amps) was supplied to the electromagnet, thereby making the electromagnetic also individually capable of creating 70 lbs. of magnetic pull.
In other words, the energy force of the two magnets was substantially equal.

When the power was supplied to the electromagnet, the combined magnetic field of the permanent magnet and the electromagnet produced 280 lbs. of lifting force on a load.
 
In a third test, the inventor used two valves situated adjacent to each other. The power supplied to each valve was 8 watts (i.e., 5 volts DC at 1.6 amps). As a result, the total power used was 16 watts. Nevertheless, the valves created 560 lbs. of lifting force on a load.





                                                                          inversal process :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6342746B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20020129&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6342746B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20020129&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)

FT54=(B/2)2A/,m0=B2A/4m0=FT26/4.


It is therefore seen that dividing the same amount of magnetic flux along two flux paths rather than along one flux path reduces the magnetic holding or coupling force on an armature by one-fourth rather than one-half as might have been expected. This unexpected magnetic holding or coupling force differential, resulting from multiple flux paths, can provide advantageous properties in linear, reciprocating, and rotary motion devices.


question :  M= r F  and M=  h F            M positive= M ccw       or           M negative = M cw   ?


magnetical leverarm and magnetical loadarm ?




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBiot-Savart-Gesetz (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBiot-Savart-Gesetz)
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 02:12:03 AM
Yes,it is not easy.

I suppose you want to say you did not understand what i explained so far so your concluded it's not easy altho all is very easy, it's only the lack of understanding that makes it appear hard.

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Newton laws alone do not give results..

I agree with that. I am glad you mentioned Newton cause i can now share very simple and powerful phenomena, yet totally unknown which i termed 4th Law of Motion which says:

Any unbalanced mass spinning 360° with varying speed or oscillating within 180° or less converts centrifugal force into linear acceleration.

In other words you can literally 'swim' in space. Imagine you are floating in space, you got a hammer in each hand. As you swing them in front of you horizontally in opposite directions (to cancel the backtorque and avoid spinning, otherwise it could be just one hammer) close to 180° but no further, resultant vector is pure unidirectional acceleration, that is, you are pulled forward just as if someone pushed you from behind.

This will probably not be understood by most of you, it confuses people as it confused me in the beginning but it is very simple and it works. What will confuse you the most is how is there no back-reaction from stopping the hammers from going beyond 180° and that is the key point...

THEY ARE STOPPED NOT DIRECTLY BUT AT THE AXIS OF ROTATION - BY FRICTION - OR, BY MUSCLE CONTRACTION IN THIS CASE. 0 BACKLASH.

Every time you swing a mass in front of you you are violating conservation of momentum and energy.

Simple demonstration of this principle > as long as ball keeps oscillating in the front, yellow area, centrifugal force will keep pulling the system forward interacting with nothing but space itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 02:18:25 AM
When you take all freedome degrees,yes then it is easy !


But the application from the formulas are mainly fixed related Bezugspunkt/reference point in a 3 dimensional coordination system


You ,nix85,goes into the Minkowski space-time continuum > 3d  !


Die Freiheit nahm sich dessen Schueler auch, der spaetere Dr.phy. Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 02:24:09 AM
It's always easy if we understand. Did you understand the 4th law of motion.

When you take all freedome degrees,yes then it is easy !


But the application from the formulas are mainly fixed related Bezugspunkt/reference point in a 3 dimensional coordination system


You ,nix85,goes into the Minkowski space-time continuum > 3d  !


Die Freiheit nahm sich dessen Schueler auch, der spaetere Dr.phy. Albert Einstein
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 02:26:13 AM
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg)
Do you understand this related "time-whole" ?
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 02:35:21 AM
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtkegel#/media/Datei:World_line-de.svg)
Do you understand this related "time-whole" ?

So you did not understand, ok.

You want to understand time? First forget all you been taught.

Understand first how Cosmic Forcefield is created from state beyond time and space, by pure consciousness.

Understand how 6 axis of time (with 12 directions of flow) create illusion of 3D space. Etc.

http://www.resona.nl/Denaerde/denaerde.html
http://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 02:49:54 AM
 ::)
Often there are things and matter in "our world" whose and which I never want to understand
Good night
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 02:58:52 AM
Don't worry about it :)
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 26, 2020, 03:23:35 AM
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Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 27, 2020, 12:36:44 AM
I just wanted to add that correct term should be Lenz's Flaw.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: onepower on March 27, 2020, 01:14:30 AM
Nix85
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The question is did YOU think before you wrote that drivel. Let me paint it simple for you, overunity systems by definition do not lower but ELIMINATE need for extrnal power intput.

There is no such thing as OU because it relies on the outdated false belief of creation which is a violation of both physics and natural law... something from nothing. As well a FE system does not eliminate external power and the most common device is a partial lowering of input power.

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LOL, i could have expected you are follower of that clown who claims he discovered double vortexial nature of magnetic field ahahaha, HE HAS NO SHAME. Dielectric this dielectric that, what a parrot only most ignorant can fall for.

Wow that's a lot of hate you have going on there my friend. I simply mentioned Feynman and wheeler because they both were involved in the energy calculations. So you would cherry pick a reference and go on some toxic rant?... gaslight much?.

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Opposing voltage IS always induced when there is is change of flux through the conductor.

Your moving the goal posts my friend because I didn't mention or imply it occurs "when there is is change of flux through the conductor". You can't just change the rules and the narrative mid stream to make a bs point.

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LOL, you remind me of myself years ago when i knew nothing but thought i knew everything. It might take you not 3 years but 3 lifetimes to get where i am at now and i have zero intention to brag.

Was that what you think I was doing, bragging?. I think it's awesome how you just said you have no intention to brag then in the same breath bragged "It might take you not 3 years but 3 lifetimes to get where i am at now". I mean you literally directly contradicted yourself in the same sentence which may be a fucking record of some sort, lol.

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Even with all i know now, how to cancel lenz, how to completely neutralize it, correct structure of the cosmic forcefield, that is, 6 axis of time and how they create illusion of 3d space, 4 great subforces, imablance of speed and density of two components of the Great Light and it's omnidirectional pressure in every point of space, x49 increase of density of matter, speed of light and rate of time flow for each of 7 "physical" planes, true nature of gravity and it's polar opposite, 2 ways to degravitate matter and how to produce the polar etheric current.. things you and your idol Wheeler don't have the slightest idea about, and still i am fully aware all i know is still very limited in the infinity. You on the other hand, know NOTHING.

Wow that's a mouth full and I thought I had seen everything until I saw the term... degravitate?. So I will tell you what I'm not going to comment any more because you appear to be a special kind of crazy beyond my understanding of the term crazy. Congratulations you win, you really are a winner my friend, lol.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 27, 2020, 02:51:49 AM
There is no such thing as OU because it relies on the outdated false belief of creation which is a violation of both physics and natural law... something from nothing. As well a FE system does not eliminate external power and the most common device is a partial lowering of input power.

No creation you say, so this material world has existence of it's own, it is not but a play of consciousness. Very good. If you count Great Light pressure as a source of energy, which it is, then i will agree there is no "overunity", since this energy is all-inclusive and it comes from Godhead.

"FE system does not eliminate external power" #facepalm

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Wow that's a lot of hate you have going on there my friend. I simply mentioned Feynman and wheeler because they both were involved in the energy calculations. So you would cherry pick a reference and go on some toxic rant?... gaslight much?.

Hate and toxic rant you say :) Funny since your whole post was one big toxic rant  supercharged with hate, arrogance and confusion.

"They proved" lol, what did Wheeler prove, he is a clown, that is all i said and that is not hating, i actually like the guy, he's funny and could be a good comedian. But even putting his name next to Feynman is just wrong.

Don't mix somene's ability to articulate "big words" with actually understanding the subject and having deep and correct knowledge about it. I am not saying he is wrong on all points, i am saying he is lacking information.

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Your moving the goal posts my friend because I didn't mention or imply it occurs "when there is is change of flux through the conductor". You can't just change the rules and the narrative mid stream to make a bs point.

"opposing voltage is not always induced when a current starts to flow in a conductor"

Opposing voltage is called back EMF and if conductor has inductance back EMF will be induced at every change of current.

Inductive reactance of the conductor (coil) grows with frequency

XL= 2πfL

Capacitive reactance falls with frequency

XC= -1/2πfC

And complex impedance is

Z = sqrt(R² + (Xc - Xl)²)

and ratio of inductance and resistance gives

τ = L/R inductor time constant, after ~5τ (transient time) current reaches 99.5%
 
Anyway, we are not talking about back EMF, that is, self-induction here, but normal induction by external change of flux. Only bs "point" is yours.

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Was that what you think I was doing, bragging?. I think it's awesome how you just said you have no intention to brag then in the same breath bragged "It might take you not 3 years but 3 lifetimes to get where i am at now". I mean you literally directly contradicted yourself in the same sentence which may be a fucking record of some sort, lol.

"I understand the reasons why are beyond your current understanding"

"Was that what you think I was doing, bragging?"

 ;D All i did is correct your arrogant and false claim. I am not here to brag but to share and learn.

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Wow that's a mouth full and I thought I had seen everything until I saw the term... degravitate?. So I will tell you what I'm not going to comment any more because you appear to be a special kind of crazy beyond my understanding of the term crazy. Congratulations you win, you really are a winner my friend, lol.

I'm sure it sounds crazy to you. ;D Win? So you are in some kind of competition? Kid, relax.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: onepower on March 27, 2020, 10:00:50 PM
Nix85
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No creation you say, so this material world has existence of it's own, it is not but a play of consciousness. Very good. If you count Great Light pressure as a source of energy, which it is, then i will agree there is no "overunity", since this energy is all-inclusive and it comes from Godhead.

The problem with creation, gods or big bangs is one of cause and circular reasoning because the moment we say a god/big bang created something were then left with the question of what created the god/big bang in the first place. It is circular reasoning and the basis of logical fallacies whereby the answer is either false or not an actual answer to anything.

I think the only question we need to ask is... if creation is the norm them what created the creator?. Another creator?, what created that creator?, another creator?... Ad infinitum, Ad nauseam. At which point the whole farce simply implodes in on itself degenerating into something from nothing which is totally unacceptable.

"FE system does not eliminate external power" #facepalm

Free Energy only implies that the energy transformed has no direct cost to us like sunlight for example. We did not create the sun, or the energy from it and it costs us nothing ergo... Free Energy. I know many like to make up there own bs definitions to serve there own beliefs however the language is clear, Free(no cost to us) Energy(motion and/or form of motion).

I have been watching Thane Heinz' work from day one and it's really not that difficult to understand. It's not overunity it simply transforms part of the energy present which usually opposes the motion of the rotor before it starts opposing. Only the magnetic field component can create the rotor drag we call Lenz Law therefore reducing it seems like a pretty obvious place to start. Transform the magnetic field change component an into an electric field change before it can cause drag and Lenz Law does not apply. Do you understand?, Lenz Law is not invoked because it does not apply. For the same reasons Earnshaw's theorem does not apply to magnetically levitated tops. People need to understand what the author of any law or theorem actually said and implied before they start jumping right into wild ass speculation.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 27, 2020, 10:37:03 PM
Nix85
The problem with creation, gods or big bangs is one of cause and circular reasoning because the moment we say a god/big bang created something were then left with the question of what created the god/big bang in the first place. It is circular reasoning and the basis of logical fallacies whereby the answer is either false or not an actual answer to anything.

I think the only question we need to ask is... if creation is the norm them what created the creator?. Another creator?, what created that creator?, another creator?... Ad infinitum, Ad nauseam. At which point the whole farce simply implodes in on itself degenerating into something from nothing which is totally unacceptable.

Typical in vain attempt to reduce Spirit to mind, withdraw beyond the polarity of mind and you will realize you are ray of the Absolute, since rays are never really separate, you are God literally.

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Free Energy only implies that the energy transformed has no direct cost to us like sunlight for example. We did not create the sun, or the energy from it and it costs us nothing ergo... Free Energy. I know many like to make up there own bs definitions to serve there own beliefs however the language is clear, Free(no cost to us) Energy(motion and/or form of motion).

Everything is free in nature, so question of cost in sense of money is irrelevant.

You could call energy from fossil fuels free if you got access to free oil.

But in the context of overunity, it is clearly implied free system is one that does not depend on mechanica or chemical input of any kind. So solar panel might be called a very inefficient OU system.

What is also clearly implied is that energy is obtained from a source like magnetic field or gravity and that system can be self fed.

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I have been watching Thane Heinz' work from day one and it's really not that difficult to understand. It's not overunity it simply transforms part of the energy present which usually opposes the motion of the rotor before it starts opposing. Only the magnetic field component can create the rotor drag we call Lenz Law therefore reducing it seems like a pretty obvious place to start. Transform the magnetic field change component an into an electric field change before it can cause drag and Lenz Law does not apply. Do you understand?, Lenz Law is not invoked because it does not apply. For the same reasons Earnshaw's theorem does not apply to magnetically levitated tops. People need to understand what the author of any law or theorem actually said and implied before they start jumping right into wild ass speculation.

Wrong. You don't understand what's going on so you resort to bad explanations. Too bad you settle for that.

First realize what magnet really is. It is a just a resistor for the Primary Light (omnidirectional universal pressure), the most subtle and most powerful energy present everywhere. As Keely says "Ether is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel." - and this is just this plane, density goes x49 for each plane above.

Harmonized electron orbits literally polarize this flow locally creating a dipole, a faucet, a double fountain.

Now, Heins is extracting this energy by delayed lenz, it is OU in a sense that it doesn't require mechanical input energy altho Heins is contradicting himself on this sometimes claiming it requires no mechanical input sometimes saying it only reduces need for mechanical input by 80%.

Like i wrote before, it is not a good way to go, there are better ways. Think in simpler terms. It is fascinating how blind we are to solutions right under our nose. Air cores and right angles, i said enough.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: onepower on March 28, 2020, 06:36:57 AM
Nix85
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Typical in vain attempt to reduce Spirit to mind, withdraw beyond the polarity of mind and you will realize you are ray of the Absolute, since rays are never really separate, you are God literally.

"You are ray of the Absolute", the ray you are looking for I am not young nix85. I wouldn't say I'm trying to reduce Spirit to mind because the mind is supposedly the electrical impulses in the empty space between neuron cells in our brain. Matter is 99% space which is full of energy thus we are energy, the stuff in between matter most say does not exist.

Spirit: the nonphysical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Does this not describe what I said above, the nonphysical non-material stuff between matter most assume is empty which we know is not?. Science tells us no space is empty as Feynman/wheeler said, it is seething with energy, more energy than most men can even imagine. Apparently science has more answers with respect to what we and our soul or spirit are and our place in the universe than religion ever did, imagine that.

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But in the context of overunity, it is clearly implied free system is one that does not depend on mechanica or chemical input of any kind. So solar panel might be called a very inefficient OU system.
What is also clearly implied is that energy is obtained from a source like magnetic field or gravity and that system can be self fed.

Overunity is a contradiction in terms in my opinion. It means more than unity or a broken symmetry which implies action/reaction are not equal and opposite and something has come from nothing ergo creationism. However Free Energy does not imply something from nothing rather an external energy source which may or may not be fully understood by some.

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First realize what magnet really is. It is a just a resistor for the Primary Light (omnidirectional universal pressure), the most subtle and most powerful energy present everywhere. As Keely says "Ether is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel." - and this is just this plane, density goes x49 for each plane above.
Harmonized electron orbits literally polarize this flow locally creating a dipole, a faucet, a double fountain.

That sounds like both Russell and Keely your quoting, I have read the work of both in depth. Personally, I found that after a few years of study it begins to sound more like a cult than anything and never seems to lead to any practical real world applications. For these reasons I moved on and found my own way, I am thankful I did.

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Now, Heins is extracting this energy by delayed lenz, it is OU in a sense that it doesn't require mechanical input energy altho Heins is contradicting himself on this sometimes claiming it requires no mechanical input sometimes saying it only reduces need for mechanical input by 80%.
Like i wrote before, it is not a good way to go, there are better ways. Think in simpler terms. It is fascinating how blind we are to solutions right under our nose. Air cores and right angles, i said enough.

On this I agree, I have watched Thanes work from the beginning and he's been grasping at straws from day one. No offense to anyone but in my opinion he falls into the some success but no idea why category. The last part was a nice touch and there are some things which speak for themselves, well said.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 05:38:11 PM
Nix85
"You are ray of the Absolute", the ray you are looking for I am not young nix85. I wouldn't say I'm trying to reduce Spirit to mind because the mind is supposedly the electrical impulses in the empty space between neuron cells in our brain. Matter is 99% space which is full of energy thus we are energy, the stuff in between matter most say does not exist.

Spirit: the nonphysical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Does this not describe what I said above, the nonphysical non-material stuff between matter most assume is empty which we know is not?. Science tells us no space is empty as Feynman/wheeler said, it is seething with energy, more energy than most men can even imagine. Apparently science has more answers with respect to what we and our soul or spirit are and our place in the universe than religion ever did, imagine that.

There is no matter, no space, no time, these are illusory properties of the mind and mind itself is imagined, created by the Self.

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Overunity is a contradiction in terms in my opinion. It means more than unity or a broken symmetry which implies action/reaction are not equal and opposite and something has come from nothing ergo creationism. However Free Energy does not imply something from nothing rather an external energy source which may or may not be fully understood by some.

There is no contradiction cause something constantly comes from nothing. Something is illusory but not the less real as an experience.

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That sounds like both Russell and Keely your quoting, I have read the work of both in depth. Personally, I found that after a few years of study it begins to sound more like a cult than anything and never seems to lead to any practical real world applications. For these reasons I moved on and found my own way, I am thankful I did.


I didn't mention Russel, nothing i said is from him altho i did study his work.

Just because those who try to revive work of the geniuses usually fail and turn it into a cult you wrongly dismiss the original work and assume it leads to nothing practical.

His contributions are more than valuable. Read and see Keely's model of subatomic particles as interference patterns of 3 subvortices, later known as quarks, also depicted by Bentov, read his 40 laws and you might start to realize how far ahead he was.

https://ia800306.us.archive.org/31/items/dashedagainsttherock00colviala/dashedagainsttherock00colviala.pdf

To quote from Dan A. Davidson's book "A Breakthrough to New Free Energy Sources"

"By 1896 Keely had perfected his system to the point where he had built and demonstrated his airship to the press as well as the War Department (now the Department of Defense). The craft was a circular platform about 6 feet in diameter. (11) Mounted on it was a small stool placed before a keyboard. Attached to the keyboard were a collection of finely tuned resonation plates and vibratory mechanisms. (14) Keely explained that when these plates were polarized with "negative attraction" the craft would rise and float above the ground. (11) The craft was now under the influence of the etheric polar current. By damping out certain notes Keely caused the airship to accelerate to any desired speed. (11) When the War Department witnessed his demonstration in an open field the airship went from zero velocity to 500 miles per hour within a few seconds. There were NO ACCELERATION EFFECTS TO KEELY who was sitting before the keyboard on the stool in the open air and controlling the airship. The government officials, although impressed, could see no use for the complex device so did not pursue the matter further."

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On this I agree, I have watched Thanes work from the beginning and he's been grasping at straws from day one. No offense to anyone but in my opinion he falls into the some success but no idea why category. The last part was a nice touch and there are some things which speak for themselves, well said.

He is tapping into it without really knowing what he's doing.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
DEFINITIONS.

ATOMOLES are elementary units of matter uniform in size and
weight, and exist in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.

ATOMS are multiple combinations of atomoles, and they also exist
in solid, liquid, gaseous, and isolated forms.

SIMPLE MOLECULES are formed by the union of two atoms of the
same kind.

COMPOUND MOLECULES are unions of two atoms of dissimilar
kind.

COMPLEX MOLECULES are unions of molecules with other mole
cules or atoms.

PITCH is the relative frequency of vibration.

VIBRATION is the rhythmical motion of a body within itself.

OSCILLATION is a rhythmically recurring translatory movement.

TRANSMISSIVE ENERGY is rhythmical motion of condensation and
rarefaction produced by the vibrating or oscillating body in the
medium in which it is immersed.

ATTRACTION is the mutual approach of aggregates caused by con
centrated waves of harmonic energy, tending to move in line of
least resistance, by becoming the centre of one series of concen
tric waves instead of two or more series.

HARMONY is the simultaneous vibration of two or more bodies
whose harmonics do not produce discords, and whose funda
mental pitches are harmonics of the lowest pitch, or are a
unison with the resultant notes or overtones, or undertones, of
any two or more of them.

ETHER is an atomolic liquid 986,000 times the density of steel.

ELECTRICITY is the oscillation of the atomoles of an atom.

INDUCTION is the transmissive force of the electric vibration in
ether.

MAGNETISM is the mutual attraction of juxtaposed bodies vibrat
ing at unison or harmonic electric pitches.

GRAVITY is the mutual attraction of atomoles.

GRAVISM is the transmissive form through a medium of atomoles
in the fourth state, or a medium composed of atomolini.

ATOMOLINI are ultimate units of atomoles, and when in a liquid
state are the media for the transmission of gravism. The
illimitable divisibility and aggregation of matter is a logical
sequence.

1. Law of Matter and Force :
Coextensive and coeternal with space and duration, there
exists an infinite and unchangeable quantity of atomoles, the
base of all matter ; these are in a state of constant vibratory
motion, infinite in extent, unchangeable in quantity, the
initial of all forms of energy.

2. Law of Corporeal Vibrations :
All coherent aggregates when isolated from like bodies, or
when immersed or confined in media composed of matter in
a different state, vibrate at a given ascertain able pitch.

3. Law of Corporeal Oscillation :
All coherent aggregates not isolated from like bodies, oscil
late at a period-frequency varying with the tensions that
augment and diminish the state of equilibrium.

4. Law of Harmonic Vibrations :
All coherent aggregates are perpetually vibrating at a
period-frequency corresponding to some harmonic ratio of
the fundamental pitch of the vibrating body ; this pitch is a
multiple of the pitch of the atomole.

5. Law of Transmissive Vibraic Energy :
All oscillating and vibrating coherent aggregates create,
in the media in which they are immersed, outwardly propa
gated concentric waves of alternate condensation and rarefac
tion, having a period-frequency identical with the pitch of
the aggregate.

Scholium: All forms of transmissive energy can be focussed,
reflected, refracted, diffracted, transformed, and diminished in
intensity inversely as the square of the distance from the origi
nating source.

6. Law of Sympathetic Oscillation :
Coherent aggregates immersed in a medium pulsating at
their natural pitch simultaneously oscillate with the same
frequency, whether the pitch of the medium be a unison, or
any harmonic of the fundamental pitch of the creative aggre
gate. .

7. Law of Attraction :
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in unison, or har
monic ratio, are mutually attracted.

8. Law of Repulsion :
Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in discord are
mutually repelled.

9. Law of Cycles :
Coherent aggregates harmonically united constitute centres
of vibration bearing relation to the fundamental pitch not
multiples of the harmonic pitch, and the production of secon
dary unions between themselves generate pitches that are dis
cords, either in their unisons, or overtones with the original
pitch ; from harmony is generated discord, the inevitable cause
of perpetual transformation.

10. Law of Harmonic Pitch :
Any aggregate in a state of vibration develops in addition
to its fundamental pitch a series of vibration in symmetrical
sub-multiple portions of itself, bearing ratios of one, two, three,
or more times its fundamental pitch.

11. Law of Force :
Energy manifests itself in three forms : Creative, the vibrat
ing aggregate ; Transmissive, being the propagation of isoch
ronous waves through the media in which it is immersed;
Attractive, being its action upon other aggregates capable of
vibrating in unisons or harmony.

12. Law of Oscillating Atomic Substances :
Coherent atomic substances are capable of oscillating at a
pitch varying directly as the density, and inversely as the
linear dimensions from one period of frequency per unit of
time to the 21st octave above, producing the creative force
of Sonity, whose transmissive force (Sound) is propagated
through the media of solids, liquids, and gases, and whose static
effect (Sonism) produces attractions and repulsions between
sympathetically vibrating bodies according to the Law of Har
monic Attraction and Repulsion.

13. Law of Sono-thermity :
Internal vibrations of atomic substances and atomic mole
cules are capable of vibrating at a period-frequency directly
as their density, inversely as their linear dimensions, directly
as the coefficient of their tension from the 21st to the 42d
octaves, producing the creative force (Sono-thermity), whose
transmissive force (Sono-therm) is propagated in solid, liquid,
gaseous, and ultra-gaseous media, statically producing adhesions
and molecular unions, or disintegration, according to the Law
of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

14. Law of Oscillating Atoms :
All atoms when in a state of tension are capable of oscillat
ing at a pitch inversely as the cube of their atomic weights,
and directly as their tension from 42 to 63 octaves per second,
producing the creative force (Thermism), whose transmissive
force (Rad-energy) propagated in solid, liquid, and gaseous
ether, produces the static effects (Cohesion and Chemism) on
other atoms of association, or dissociation, according to the
Law of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

Scholium : Dark radiant heat begins at absolute zero tem
perature, and extends through light, chemical rays, actinic
rays, and infra-violet rays, up to the dissociation of all mole
cules to the 63d octave.

15. Law of Vibrating Atornolic Substances :
Atoms are capable of vibrating within themselves at a pitch
inversely as the Dyne (the local coefficient of Gravity), and
as the atomic volume, directly as the atomic weight, producing
the creative force (Electricity), whose transmissive force is
propagated through atomolic solids, liquids, and gases, pro
ducing induction and the static effect of magnetism upon
other atoms of attraction or repulsion, according to the Law
of Harmonic Attraction and Repulsion.

Scholium : The phenomena of Dynamic Electricity through
a metallic conductor and of induction are identical. In a
metallic conductor, the transmission is from atom to atom,
through homologous interstices, filled with ether, presenting
small areas in close proximity. In crystalline structures, heat,
which expands the atoms, by twisting them produces striae,
increases the resistance, etc. Between parallel wires and
through air the induction takes place from large areas through
a rarefied medium composed of a mixture of substances, whose
atoms are separated by waves of repulsion of various pitches,
discordant to electric vibrations ; the said atoms sympatheti
cally absorb the vibrations and dissipate from themselves, as
centres, concentric waves of electric energy which produces
heat and gravism.

16. Law of Oscillating Atomoles :
Atomoles oscillating at a uniform pitch (determined by their
uniform size and weight) produce the creative force Atomolin/,
whose transmissive form, Gravism, is propagated through more
rarefied media, producing the static effect upon all other atomoles,
denominated Gravity.

17. Law of Transformation of Forces :
All forces are different forms of Universal Energy unlike in
their period-frequency, merging into each other by impercepti
ble increments ; each form representing the compass of 21
octaves. Each form or pitch may be transformed into an
equivalent quantity of another pitch above or below it in the
scale of 105 octaves. The transformation can occur only ,
through its static effect, developing vibrations of harmonic
pitches above and below their fundamental vibration, or de
veloping with juxtaposed aggregates, resultant and difference,
or third order, as the case may be.
Scholium : A table of the intervals and harmonics of the
normal harmonic scale will indicate the ratios in which the
transformation of forces will occur.

18. Law of Atomic Pitch :
Atoms have each a different and definite pitch, at which
they naturally vibrate.

Scholium : Atomic pitch is determined directly from its
simple spectrum.

Scholium : Atomic pitch is determined by computations from
its associate spectrum with all other atoms, as in known spectra.
Scholium: Atomic pitches are more important working data
than atomic weights ; tables of atomic pitches must be precise.

19. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Rad-energy :
The higher harmonics and overtones of projected rad-energy
are of a pitch sufficiently high to cause the atom to expand;
by causing the atomoles to vibrate systematically the same
influence will cause the atom to contract, and thus by chang
ing the volume, atomic pitch is varied.

20. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Electricity and Mag
netism :
Electricity and Magnetism produce internal vibrations in
the atom, which are followed by proportional changes in vol
ume and, therefore, pitch.

21. Law of Variation of Atomic Pitch by Temperature :
Atoms in chemical combination oscillate with increasing
amplitude directly as the temperature, and simultaneously ab
sorb overtones of higher harmonics, producing expansion of
volume and diminution of pitch.
Rule : The gradual approach of the temperature of har
monic combination can be observed by mutually comparing
superimposed spectra; chemical combination commences when
the fundamental lines of each spectrum bear harmonic ratios
by linear measurement.

22. Law of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation :
Atoms not isolated and in a state of tension between forces
that oppose and increase the equilibrium oscillate bodily at a
pitch that is a resultant of the atomic weight, atomic volume,
and tension.

23. Law of Variation of Pitch of Atomic Oscillation by Pressure :
The frequency of atomic oscillation increases and dimin
ishes inversely as the square of the pressure.

24. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Temperature :
The force of cohesion diminishes inversely as the square of
the distance the atoms are apart, and the force of the chemi
cal affinity diminishes in the same ratio. Heat increases the
amplitude of the oscillations in a direct ratio to the tempera
ture of the natural scale.
Scholium : New thermometers and accurate thermometric
tables, on the natural bases, wherein doubling the temperature
doubles the pitch of the transmissive energy, are required.
Such a table of temperature will bear natural relations to
atomic weights, pitches, specific heats, chemical affinities,
fusions, solubilities, etc., and will disclose new laws. One
table for each must be constructed.

25. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Electricity :
The electric current destroys cohesion and chemical tension
directly as square of current in amperes, inversely as the
resistance in ohms, inversely as the chemical equivalent, and
conversely as the coefficient of the difference between the
freezing and volatilizing temperature of mass acted upon.

26. Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Sono-thermism :
Diminishes the tensions directly as the quantity of heat
developed, and in antithetical proportion to the harmonics
absolved.

27. Law of Chemical Affinity :
Atoms whose atomic pitches are in either unison, harmonic
or concordant ratios, unite to form molecules.
Corollary: When two atoms are indifferent, they may be
made to unite by varying the pitch of either, or both.
Scholium : This necessitates the construction of tables rep
resenting variation of atomic pitches by temperature, press
ure, etc.

Scholium: Tables of all harmonics and concords, and har
monics founded upon a normal harmonic scale, are equally
essential.

Scholium: Optical instruments may be made to measure
pitches of energy.

28. Law of Chemical Dissociation :
If the pitch of either atom, in a molecule, be raised or low
ered ; or, if they both be unequally raised or lowered in pitch
until the mutual ratio be that of a discord ; or, if the oscilla
tion amplitude be augmented by heat until the atoms are with
the concentric waves of attraction, the atoms will separate.
29. Law of Chemical Transposition :
New molecules must be harmonics of the fundamental pitch.
30. Law of Chemical Substitution (too complex for brief state
ment) .

31. Law of Catalysis:
The presence of harmonics and discords.

32. Law of Molecular Synthesis and Combination (Organic) :
The molecular pitch must be a derived harmony of the
radicals.
Scholium : Reconstruction of electric units to represent
pitches and amplitudes.

33. Law of Chemical Morphology :
The angle of crystallization is determined by the relation
between the molecular pitch of the crystallizing substance to
the vibration-density of the liquid depositing it.

34. Law of Atomic Dissociation:
Overtones of high rad-energy pitches produce separation of
the atomoles and recombinations among the atomolic mole
cules of the atoms.

35. Law of Atomolic Synthesis of Chemical Elements :
Harmonic pitches of atomolity produce association of ethericatomolic
particles to form atoms : the kind of atom is determinable
by the pitches employed.

36. Law of Heat :
Atoms under the tension of chemical combination oscillate
with an amplitude directly as the temperature, inversely as the
pressure, and as the square of the specific heat. Diminishing
the pitch of oscillation inversely as the square of the distance
of the atoms apart, and simultaneously increasing the vibrating
pitch of the atom by absorption of overtones and higher har
monics.

37. Law of Electro-chemical Equivalents :
An atom vibrates sympathetically under the influence of
electric energy, such undertones of which are absorbed as are
a harmonic or harmony of the electric pitch ; the amount of
energy absorbed being directly as the arithmetical ratio of the
undertone of the fundamental electric pitch.
Scholium : A table of electro-chemical equivalents on the
normal basis will indicate the electrical conditions and amount
of chemical change.

38. Law of Cohesion :
The cohesion between atoms diminishes directly as the
square root of the pressure and temperature, and as the square
of electric intensity.

39. Law of Refractive Indices :
A table of the refractive indices of substances indicates their
molecular pitch ; and in connection with crystalline form the
phase of molecular oscillation.

40. Law of Electric Conductivity :
Electric energy is transmitted through homogeneous bodies
with a completeness in direct proportion as the atoms are more
or less perfect harmonics of the electric pitch, but not at all
through substances whose atoms are discordant to the electric
pitch ; also through molecular substances, when their resultant
notes are harmonics of the electric pitch, the transmissions
being inversely as the temperature, directly as the density
diminished in proportion to the amount of crystallization, and
inversely as the cube of the dyne, also directly as the recipro
cal of the local magnetic intensity.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:09:15 PM
More from Dan Davidson's book, neat detail for those persuing HHO.

"About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporize water instantly into energy. (11) He named this energy ETHERIC FORCE. Keely called the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force : DISSOCIATION. (6) After a lifetime of researching the laws governing the vibrations which produce etheric force, Keely believed that the power he tapped was the governing medium of the universe. This force controls the advance and recession of the sum and planets in their movements across the heavens. It reigns in the mineral, vegetable, and animal kingdoms and is the common fore regulating all. Keely proved in demonstration that matter can be subdivided by different orders of vibration. Each subdivision evolves entirely new and distinct "elements". He was able to analyze seven distinct levels of subdivision. Perhaps this is an affirmation of the occultists who have proclaimed that there are seven levels of universal energy. Present atom smashers with their billion volt power levels have nothing new on Keely's harmonious control and subdivision of matter. He showed that all sympathetic streams of energy are composed of triple currents of vibratory flows. This applies to magnetic, electric, gravital, and cerebelic (brain and mind) flows. These laws govern all molecular masses from the innermost subdivision of the atom to the galaxies and universe itself. These flows radiate from suns and stars to planets on down the scale to the very core of the atoms. Since these flows are vibrational in nature and tuned to their respective spheres Keely believed this was the basis for the term "music of the spheres". Gravity is actually a triple connective radiation rather than a flow. It is an eternally existing force entering all forms of matter. Keely believed that gravity is the basic source form which all matter emerges. Keely called the stream of energy coming into the earth at the poles form the sun the polar stream. The three currents of force in this poles stream are magnetism, electricity, and gravity. (4)From all of Keely's experiments and research he determined and wrote out a system of the vibratory conditions governing the aggregation of energy into molecular structures and their resonance relations to each other."
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 06:15:31 PM
nix85, " ...... He found that 42,800 vibrations per second .... "


https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-frequency-in-vibrations-per-second-of-a-100-HZ (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-frequency-in-vibrations-per-second-of-a-100-HZ)
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:17:58 PM
nix85, " ...... He found that 42,800 vibrations per second .... "


https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-frequency-in-vibrations-per-second-of-a-100-HZ (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-frequency-in-vibrations-per-second-of-a-100-HZ)

What's your point? I assume he means 42.8KHz.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 06:21:03 PM
What's your point? I assume he means 42.8KHz.


Assuming something ,here about physics - probably without international convention : 1866 !- is a risc !
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:27:38 PM

Assuming something ,here about physics - probably without international convention : 1866 !- is a risc !

It can be either 42.8 or 21.4KHz, there is no other option.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 06:30:54 PM
You are right ! 2 possibilities  or  2 possible cases

I did only show to you the detective work by us,how we have to understand statements and numbers.
DC ?  Would have been 1866 common,battery/ jar based !

Pulsed by magnetic relay or AC   unexpected !

But 21,4 KHz to 42,8 Khz is a wide vibration ,sonic, spread  ,is it not ?
By which efficiency ? Some data in this book ?
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:45:47 PM
You are right ! 2 possibilities  or  2 possible cases

I did only show to you the detective work by us,how we have to understand statements and numbers.
DC ?  Would have been 1866 common,battery/ jar based !

Pulsed by magnetic relay or AC   unexpected !

But 21,4 KHz to 42,8 Khz is a wide vibration ,sonic, spread  ,is it not ?
By which efficiency ? Some data in this book ?

You are nitpicking, Keely used standard meaning of pitch, so when he says 1 vibration he means 1Hz.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:50:11 PM
To correlate Keely's 7 levels of division with Theosophy, here is a table showing how ultimate atoms (not atoms in our sense, more like tiniest bubbles of ether, something akin to Planck's constant) of the first Adi plane join to produce ever bigger particles of lower planes.

These 7 planes represent the first Cosmic Plane. He doesn't give number of Cosmic Planes but according to Bentov there are 7.

From Solar System by Arthur Powell.
 
Âdî                  1           1
Anupâdaka       49         49
Âtmâ               49^2     2,401
Buddhi             49^3    117,649
Manas              49^4    5,764,800
Kâma               49^5    282,475,249
Sthula              49^6    13,841,287,201
 
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 06:57:36 PM
You can imagine how mindblown i was when i first correlated this x49 increase of density of matter on different planes with two contactee cases which claim that speed of light increases x49 (Oscar Magocsi) and x50 (Ummo) on each plane above. This 50 to 49 discrepancy can be attributed to their "mistake", actually ratio being 49.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 07:05:10 PM
http://amasci.com/freenrg/h2oblast.html (http://amasci.com/freenrg/h2oblast.html)


About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporize water instantly into energy. (11) He named this energy ETHERIC FORCE. Keely called the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force : DISSOCIATION. (6)


https://books.google.pt/books?id=CXQ8XxYKYMIC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=keely+vibrations+per+second&source=bl&ots=w6Sbse51qT&sig=ACfU3U0xmPVreABmzMuarqtena6K90gvMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyoqSr373oAhXuYt8KHRQbDeEQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=keely%20vibrations%20per%20second&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=CXQ8XxYKYMIC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=keely+vibrations+per+second&source=bl&ots=w6Sbse51qT&sig=ACfU3U0xmPVreABmzMuarqtena6K90gvMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyoqSr373oAhXuYt8KHRQbDeEQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=keely%20vibrations%20per%20second&f=false)


",,,,, The first etheric cord on the first octave induces 42800 vibrations per second, .... "


To disintegrade quartz is as same as dissociate water ?


Explain it to me,please,nix85 !
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 07:15:23 PM
http://amasci.com/freenrg/h2oblast.html (http://amasci.com/freenrg/h2oblast.html)


About 1866 while he was pursuing a line of experimentation in sonic vibrations, he discovered a hitherto unknown energy. He was subjecting water to sonic vibrations and had an explosion which wrecked his apparatus. Six years of intensive experiments passed before he was able to produce this energy at will. He found that 42,800 vibrations per second would vaporize water instantly into energy. (11) He named this energy ETHERIC FORCE. Keely called the process of changing the substance of water into etheric force : DISSOCIATION. (6)


https://books.google.pt/books?id=CXQ8XxYKYMIC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=keely+vibrations+per+second&source=bl&ots=w6Sbse51qT&sig=ACfU3U0xmPVreABmzMuarqtena6K90gvMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyoqSr373oAhXuYt8KHRQbDeEQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=keely%20vibrations%20per%20second&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=CXQ8XxYKYMIC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=keely+vibrations+per+second&source=bl&ots=w6Sbse51qT&sig=ACfU3U0xmPVreABmzMuarqtena6K90gvMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyoqSr373oAhXuYt8KHRQbDeEQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=keely%20vibrations%20per%20second&f=false)


",,,,, The first etheric cord on the first octave induces 42800 vibrations per second, .... "


To disintegrade quartz is as same as dissociate water ?


Explain it to me,please,nix85 !

I don't know, obviously he finds that frequency quite special.

Both water and crystals are considered alive.

Reminds me of Kowsky but he used radio frequencies.

Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 07:26:27 PM
Thank you for clear response !


I see between Keely effect : compression  and Kowsky effect : expansion    relationship


I prefer the second : accelerated cristal growth


But we are wide far from Thane C. Heins his concepts ! ::)
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 07:28:06 PM
Speaking of negative weight now i have to quote Phylos talking of Navaz, the negative gravity superimposed on gravity.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 07:42:22 PM
All that said, it would be wrong not to quote Hollingshead.

HARNESSING THE FORCE OF GRAVITY
By Richard S. Hollingshead

Dedicated to
My Father, Mr. Edgar L. Hollingshead through who's efforts this thesis was made possible.

In order to overcome the force of gravity we must first make an assumption as to just what gravity is. Then working under that assumption, prove to our reason that our hypothesis is correct. Thus, I shall say that the force known as gravitation is an emanation coming from the sun.

In order that we may gain some understanding of the great force of solar energy which controls the solar system, which is necessary if we are to understand the real cause of weight in matter, let us consider the fact that reason proves to us that we cannot have a great force like gravitation coming into the earth unless there is an equal and opposite force coming out of the earth; otherwise, there would be an unbalanced condition in nature where order is the fact. Likewise, we cannot conceive of a great force like gravitation coming from no place in space, for reason prove to us that there must be some definite place for this force to come from, and also a definite place for its opposite polarity to return to. We know that the force coming from the sun manifests as light and heat, and therefore, we know that gravitation has a preponderately [sic] positive nature; thus, reason proves to us that the force returning to the sun or the opposite polarity of gravitation must have a preponderately [sic] negative character. This force, coming from the sun, must cross interplanetary space in the form of high etheric energy, but when this energy comes in contact with the atmosphere of the earth, it is thereby resisted and slowed down or "transformed" into electricity, light, and heat.

In order that we may realize how it is possible to develop a process by which the weight of matter can be changed, it is

time, thus proving that the side of the earth that is next to the sun is receiving a greater amount of the force of gravitation than is the case with the side of the earth that is away from the sun. Therefore, the vortexual [sic] energy forming the molecules of the pendulum of the clock is not resisting as great an amount of the force of gravitation during night as it is in the daytime; thus, the pendulum is lighter and swings faster at night than it does in the daytime under the same power exerted.

In order to understand the true nature of force, we must realize that reason proves to us that mankind cannot conceive of a force unless there is something moving. If there is something moving, it must be a substance in some form, not necessarily physical matter as that term is commonly used, but a substance. Therefore, all forces of nature must have two parts, a substance and speed. With that hypothesis in mind, if we consider light as a substance with a speed of 186,000 miles per second, we know that we cannot get something from nothing; therefore, reason proves to us that electricity must also be a substance in motion. We also know that we generate electricity by what is termed cutting magnetic lines of force, which in reality is a transformation of a higher force to a slower one.

Let us stop and picture in our minds a two pole generator. Let us imagine that these two poles are tanks of water, and that the lines of force shooting from pole to pole is a stream of water. Also, that we have an armature made of screen placed between these two poles, or in the pathway of this water. Now if this screen armature is standing still it would have very little resistance to the flow of the water, but the moment we begin to rotate the armature we know that the water would pile itself up on the face of the screen;

in other words, we would resist the flow or the water, and this is precisely what is being accomplished in an electric dynamo. The armature whirling in a field of force resists the substance known as magnetic energy, and this energy or substance is thereby caused to pile itself upon the face of the armature and is thereby slowed down or "transformed" into what is known as electricity.

Having proven to reason that in all force there is a substance in motion, this substance must be governed and controlled by the same principles that govern all matter throughout the universe. In other words, the substance or body of a force must be made up of minute eddies of force which correspond to the atoms of matter. This being true, these eddies of force are competent of being broken up and thereby release an energy of great potential power. Thus, by looking upon the amperage of electricity as a substance, it is possible, by mechanical methods, to break up these eddies of force forming the body of amperage of electricity and thereby release a force which corresponds to the atomic energy in matter, with this important difference however; that the speed of the energy released out of the eddies of force forming the amperage of electricity is traveling infinitely faster than is the case with the atoms forming the molecules of matter. Therefore, when this electronic energy is released from the amperage of electricity, and properly controlled and applied, it can be made to raise or lower the atomic energy in matter to any degree desired.

The resultant energy released by this process is a force that is similar in character to the X-Ray or the Radio-Active rays emanating from radium, with this important difference; its rate of vibration or speed is far greater than either of the rays mentioned. This rate can be changed, lowered, or intensified, its polarity reversed and its direction of [missing text]

of this new ray can be changed all the way from where it will affect a photographic plate, the same as ordinary light, up to where it will disintegrate solid rock the instant it touches the rock.

In order that you may understand how it is possible to change the atomic speed of matter and make this change remain permanent, it will be necessary for me to explain a new principle in what is called polarity. In using the term polarity in this sense, I mean the inter-exchange of two forces of different character. Scientists generally consider that there is a positive and negative side to all manifestations of force, but in order to fully understand the force stored up in matter, it is necessary to consider the fact, experimentally proven, that there are not only two forces of different characteristics manifesting in the principle of polarity, but that there is also a third force or phase; in other words, it has been experimentally proven that there are three phases of energy manifesting in every atom of matter or in every stream of force. These three phases are known as the positive, negative, and dominant. These three phases of energy have been proven to be manifesting in their relation to each other as follows: The positive is the lowest rate or three, the negative is the central phase or six, and the dominant is the highest or nine.* [See 369]

If you take a piece of metal and place it in the fire, you will stimulate the positive phase of energy in the atoms; take it out of the fire and it will come back to its normal relation to the other two phases. Place the same metal in chemicals and freeze it

and you will stimulate the negative phase; take it out and it will come back to its normal relation to the other two. However, if you will raise all three phases of atomic energy in an atom at the same time, and keep them in their normal relation to each other, there is no incentive on the part of any one phase to come back to its original state of vibration, as you have left them at their normal relation to each other.

Thus, by applying a force with a sufficiently high rate or energy which has three phases of energy within its nature, we were able to raise all three phases of energy in the molecules of matter at the same time, and thus establish a new rate of atomic speed; therefore, when the atomic speed of matter is once changed by the ray, it remains permanently where it is placed.

Reason proves to us that a principle which is universal in its application, such as three phases of energy, must manifest on all planes of activity in accordance with its nature. Therefore, this principle must apply also to the forces governing a solar system. In other words, the negative side of gravitation must be flowing at a rate of speed one-third faster than the positive side of gravitation. In order to cause the atomic speed or matter to resist this negative side of the force coming out of the earth, it would be necessary to increase the atomic speed of matter. This hypothesis was proved to be true through development of the ray.

It is commonly believed that the force known as magnetic energy is produced out of electricity, but it is unreasonable to believe that we can produce a higher rate of force out of a lower one. We know we can "house in", insulate or confine electricity, but we also know that magnetic energy cannot be insulated or confined,

proving therefore, that magnetic energy is a faster or superior force to that of electricity. If we cause electricity to flow through a coil of wire, we resist the flow or retard its action, and reason tells us that we cannot retard the action of the force and at the same time transform it into a higher force of different character.

Therefore, by causing electricity to flow through a coil of wire a vortex of energy is set up which resists the flow of gravitation and transforms gravitation into magnetic energy.

It is a well known fact that magnetic energy can in turn be resisted by an armature whirling in a field or force, and, thus generate electricity. Resist electricity properly and we will produce an arc-light by a combustible material, and we have flame or heat; resist this flame or heat by the oxygen and nitrogen in the air and we have sound; place it in a vacuum, we have no sound; properly resist this one force substance again, in the form of the amperage of electricity, and we create cohesion in the form of helium. Thus, we see that it is possible by commencing at the top with gravitation, and by a series or steps of resistance only, it is possible to create magnetism, electricity, light, heat, sound and cohesion from the one higher force known as gravitation.

In conclusion I would like to bring out the fact that this ray mentioned previously was actually demonstrated to public and press during the period of 1921 to 1924, by the late Mr. Edgar L. Hollingshead. In the initial work of studying out the principles upon which this ray was based, Mr. Edgar L. Hollingshead was assisted by the late Dr. L. Frank Johnson of Los Angeles who was an electrical engineer, and an Honorary Member of the Academy of Science of France.

At that time with the ray they were able to lighten weight of various metals without changing their tensile strength, penetrate 6 1/2 inches or steel and 11 inches of lead and affect a photographic film. Other experiments determined the fact that metals could be made to have an appreciable permanent hot or cold effect.

This theory was instigated and published in the press by the late Mr. Edgar L. Hollingshead in 1921. The neutron was discovered by Professor W. Pauli in 1932.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 28, 2020, 07:57:30 PM
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Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 12:17:28 PM
Farbwerke Hoechst,Frankfurt/Main ,did it had.
"ENIGMA"was also one
Lochkartenmaschine,Dechiffriermaschine,calculator,cum putere = infinitive from latin to german : setzen/fixing,stellen/positionong,legen/laying as base for Computer

nix85,Flops up to yottaFlops are the 2020 benchmarks ! 10v24

819 ....... is only 819 THz range ,in development PetaHz : look for Fermi-seconds

Look also for example IBM "Super-Computer" in the 40' from the last century and 2020 "Super-Computer" level,beside volume comparison also processor-operation output comparison !
And powerconsume per Flopscycle in the 1940' and now 2020 !
For the operation,for the cooling !

R.O.M. and R.A.M. , M. a. for Memory b. for Machine

What "physically defined speed"  in which " physically defined velocity"  ?

This then like Intel MMX,an Eprom like device,and then as "free energy generator"- modul in array.configuration,parallelprocessor how the Parsytech/Aachen/Germany  operation process in the 80' from the last century !

But you and your work is not a lost :Rauchgas-like material Kowsky/Frost concept,"dense/solid material to foam-operation"  : worthfull !
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 29, 2020, 05:50:13 PM
Farbwerke Hoechst,Frankfurt/Main ,did it had.
"ENIGMA"was also one
Lochkartenmaschine,Dechiffriermaschine,calculator,cum putere = infinitive from latin to german : setzen/fixing,stellen/positionong,legen/laying as base for Computer

nix85,Flops up to yottaFlops are the 2020 benchmarks ! 10v24

819 ....... is only 819 THz range ,in development PetaHz : look for Fermi-seconds

Look also for example IBM "Super-Computer" in the 40' from the last century and 2020 "Super-Computer" level,beside volume comparison also processor-operation output comparison !
And powerconsume per Flopscycle in the 1940' and now 2020 !
For the operation,for the cooling !

R.O.M. and R.A.M. , M. a. for Memory b. for Machine

What "physically defined speed"  in which " physically defined velocity"  ?

This then like Intel MMX,an Eprom like device,and then as "free energy generator"- modul in array.configuration,parallelprocessor how the Parsytech/Aachen/Germany  operation process in the 80' from the last century !

But you and your work is not a lost :Rauchgas-like material Kowsky/Frost concept,"dense/solid material to foam-operation"  : worthfull !

I know of german Enigma and supecomputers and nanoseconds..i don't see your point in relation to Keely, Kowsky or free energy.
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on March 29, 2020, 08:27:38 PM
Speaking of gravity control, it goes to time before Keely, it was perfected by late 19th century and rediscovered time and time again in 20th century.

Most of you heard of german saucers and dismissed it as fiction. HOW WRONG.

Those photos you see of Vril and Haunebu series are REAL (except for obvious later fakes).

FBI document, testimony of Polish man, ex german prisoner of war, who in 1944. saw german field propelled craft nearly 300 feet wide.

https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%2012%20of%2016/view#document/p88
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on April 24, 2020, 11:06:19 AM
https://books.google.pt/books?id=Pxy4dCQ3I9QC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=CQlmQOG9B4&sig=ACfU3U19t1RWD2hfoRow7CuK--XWFguCMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=Pxy4dCQ3I9QC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=CQlmQOG9B4&sig=ACfU3U19t1RWD2hfoRow7CuK--XWFguCMw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false)


https://books.google.pt/books?id=EDm0eQqFUQ4C&pg=PR14&lpg=PR14&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=dAleHmEbe7&sig=ACfU3U2avn5Zb-TPVT_Sbl14TUOtR3tTEA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=EDm0eQqFUQ4C&pg=PR14&lpg=PR14&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=dAleHmEbe7&sig=ACfU3U2avn5Zb-TPVT_Sbl14TUOtR3tTEA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false)




https://books.google.pt/books?id=xlSoBgAAQBAJ&pg=PR7&lpg=PR7&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=r-vILSvTTx&sig=ACfU3U1FcMxCckMneImVsGD8jRPy8P4beA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAnoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=xlSoBgAAQBAJ&pg=PR7&lpg=PR7&dq=dr.meissner+telefunken&source=bl&ots=r-vILSvTTx&sig=ACfU3U1FcMxCckMneImVsGD8jRPy8P4beA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3LLI2YDpAhWB8eAKHTTKCuUQ6AEwAnoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=dr.meissner%20telefunken&f=false)




About whom we read here : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Mei%C3%9Fner (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Mei%C3%9Fner) 


                                         https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlexander_Mei%25C3%259Fner (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlexander_Mei%25C3%259Fner)




some publications,from espacenet archive :


inventor :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=telefunken&IN=alexander+meissner&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=telefunken&IN=alexander+meissner&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)




applicant/-s

( select the right "Alexander Meissner " out )

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=alexander+meissner&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=alexander+meissner&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)





for experimenter / re-/searcher probably usefull



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Runge (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Runge)





https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_G%C3%BCntherschulze (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_G%C3%BCntherschulze)








Probably helpfull to understand Quantum Informatical processes


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Courant (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Courant)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Robbins (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Robbins)




https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McCune (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McCune)

? 8) 70/80' last century : TV-monitor table-tennis,the right angle on bot field sides and both player could go dring the open game on toilett or for drinks/snacks  ,principle : "ewige Schleife",
like the 365 sun-earth Zenit-max/Nadir-min punction and : "malen/painting nach/with  Zahlen/here points: interpuncton results :
 horizontal "8=eight=Acht" and =
                                                                 Eternity-symbol


perpetuum game/Endlosschleife
q.e.d.


Anti-(or Counter-)/Heisenbergsche "Un-/Schaerfe"-Verfahren/Process ,reversible




3.d Formation by


https://www.google.com/search?q=electronmicroscope+nobelprize&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=electronmicroscope+nobelprize&aqs=chrome..69i57.17680j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=electronmicroscope+nobelprize&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=electronmicroscope+nobelprize&aqs=chrome..69i57.17680j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


or                     matter normat


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1)




like


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=lloyd+crump&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=lloyd+crump&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)






                                                                          here
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19580826&CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19580826&CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A)






How 8 vertical +8 horizontal :  ::) Mit Glauben und Wissenschaft :)








VIZIV :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19760504&CC=US&NR=3955201A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19760504&CC=US&NR=3955201A&KC=A)
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: lancaIV on April 25, 2020, 04:13:35 AM
"How 8 vertical and 8 horizontal":
komisch,aber irgendwie doch wahr :
Lions Club und Rotarier : propellare,Propeller
Wer/Was  legt zuerst an,Initialzuendung ?
--- zutiefst verletzt,vergewaltigt,fast vernichtet haben
+++ wir haben ,vielleicht mehr als nur einen groszen Bruder oder Schwester,welche uns begleiten und soweit es geht mitbeschuetzen ,"hells' and heavens' angels,beide Fluegel

Unser Aller Motiv,fixiert innerlich zum Votiv,der un-/heimliche Antreiber tipo "Frere Jacques/Bruder Jacob,....."
Vielleicht sollte mal einer in Roma,Italia dessen inneren Punk rauslassen ,dasz sich die Kuppel ......

Irrsinnige Gedanken in einer irrsinnig aeusseren Welt,gibt zumindest solch ein Bild ab
Der Spiegel-online : "Von laut auf stumm-danke !" Endlich !? ;)
https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/corona-krise-angela-merkel-und-die-panne-bei-der-videokonferenz-a-00aaf613-b238-4bcf-ba19-ec78e923d378 (https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/corona-krise-angela-merkel-und-die-panne-bei-der-videokonferenz-a-00aaf613-b238-4bcf-ba19-ec78e923d378)


                     An sich intelligent,entsprechend der Vorausbildung,nicht Verfassung-s-gerecht die Ausfuehrung= UNPERSON ! Titelaberkennung !


                     Fuer den Gesamtstaat,innerhalb E.U.,EUROPA-RAT-Staaten,U,N,-weit !



                    25.April,1974 "GRANDOLA,vila morena.."     25.April 2020 ZEIT FUER EINE GLOBALE GRAND-OLA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFH5JgyZK1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFH5JgyZK1I) 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zHm_6AQ7CY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zHm_6AQ7CY)




Was sind wir alle,sollten es sein : STOA-Hueter,STOA = GRAL,un-/heilig ?!









Prof. Dr. .... Heinz Ryborz : UEBER-ES, UEBER = APPLIKATION,KANT :lebe demnach !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwZqUPzXypU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwZqUPzXypU) " .....  Science open up the Door : ..."


24,April 2020 : dieses ist die Mindmapping-machine,der inverse "Neurophone: Mindreader"


Kein Verhoer mehr ueber Wort(-gefechte) notwendig,eine Art "virtueller RAUM 101" !


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four)


Ihr habt "ES" gewagt,Ihr/WIR haben verloren !
Title: Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
Post by: nix85 on April 26, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
https://youtu.be/9rd-iQhhr3o?t=567