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Heins' new videos and few corrections
« on: March 25, 2020, 05:08:24 PM »
Heins uploaded 8 new videos and so i'll comment on it.

Firstly i believe his generators/motors do as he says and that effect is achieved by increased inductance which delays the lenz response at high enough speed....but how he explains it is flawed in various ways, some maybe intentionally.

Firstly, to remove his main nonsense, he claims infinite efficiency and yet claims his devices are not perpetual motion. His argument for this is that power produced would have to be stepped down in frequency to feed it back into the system "and thus it is not perpetual..". Total nonsense which i attribute to desire to distance from such term with negative connotations.

One of his main points is that his generators can "reduce needed mechanical power input by 80%.". For example in his prospect for 1 megawatt ReGenex generator he says both conventional and his 1MW generator need ~0.5MW to keep them spinning at no load (idle), and that at full load conventional generator needs 1.5 or 2MW to output 1MW while his needs even less than idle, around 0.4MW.

Despite obvious claim of 0.6MW above unity he sticks to ridiculous claim of 80% power input reduction. His main "argument" appeares to be that his generator cannot be closed looped which makes no sense, even if we account for all the losses of stepping down of frequency, 0.6MW of free energy is enough to keep the system self fed.

Now that i put that to rest, see how he explains the principle. Screenshot from the video below
depicts the comparison of load current sinewave for conventional vs regenex generator.

https://youtu.be/4cCx-AvyaD8?t=504

You will notice he placed the polarity change at the peak of the current. This is wrong. He says it clearly in the vid "when rotor magnet is top dead center to the coil's core is when voltage and current is max", this is actually when voltage and current are ZERO.

I mean this is basic stuff, look at voltage when magnets are in dead centers of the coils.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaIHJUf110

In this new video he claims "no energy is used to establish the magnetic field", yet obviously current is flowing from the battery.

He then claims only power dissipation is the copper losses and that only work being done electrically is generation of heat. He further claims if magnet was removed, same amount of energy would be consumed and that as heat only.

He apparently forgets the Laplace law F = ILxB describing force on a conductor in a magnetic field, as load increases, current in the conductor must increase to balance the forces: I = F/BL.

This means if magnet was removed or if mercury was replaced with some less dense liquid of same conductivity, less energy would be consumed. If this was not true all conventional motors would be overunity which they are clearly not.

Now i am not saying this cannot be bypassed, it clearly can if we are to believe him which i do, but his claim is off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbr3zyu0ojk

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2020, 06:13:13 PM »
Thank you,for information !


https://de.slideshare.net/PDiCEOThaneHeins3240/thane-heins-bio-and-technology-background


Also here it is written : 80% less input related conventional drive input


It would be a great step !


As in-wheel generator,as small wind/solar heat pressure/water converter and ic-engine-genset !


Or as motor-generator


About the efficiency gains from RegenX coils in electric motors nothing is to read



https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140253271A1/en reading this reminds capacitive coil reactive transformer from Dr. .... Pavel Imris


With a purely resistive load on the BiTT the primary power factor is virtually zero and the efficiency of the energy transfer is increased accordingly. If for example, the transformer primary power factor is reduced by 30% the transformer efficiency is also increased by 30%. As well as the applications mentioned above, this transformer can also be applied in chargers and in electric vehicles between the generator and the batteries and between the batteries and the motor.




Sincerely


OCWL


p.s.: being sceptical about number use https://www.qmpower.com/  up to less 80% power input


       but by  comparison with


      https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2018183783&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION


For example, refrigeration fan motors in a low wattage range, e.g. 4 to 16 watts, used in both the commercial and residential refrigeration markets, have traditionally been low efficiency, such as around 12%-26% efficient. It would be desirable to provide technologies to address enhancements required in different classes of motors.

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2020, 06:57:22 PM »
I got those slideshares, that is where i quote from. Point is infinite efficiency and 80% less input do NOT mix.

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2020, 07:04:46 PM »
Slides

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2020, 07:10:40 PM »
Raymond Kromrey generator, acceleration under load.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7jrTj1lk1U

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2020, 07:19:53 PM »
Thane Christopher Heins has to have improved this application concept


 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/050484710/publication/US10103591B2?q=pn%3DUS2014111054A1

                     
because the technology only commercial save/granted for the U.S.A. market,not international valid, out U.S.A. = open source,no licence or fee paying


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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2020, 07:31:49 PM »
Hi nix85,

I made similar observations a few months ago here, or actually over there.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/14521-the-bistander-thread/page35#post496874

Clearly Thane has no idea what's going on.

Regards,

bi

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2020, 07:48:44 PM »
Hi nix85,

I made similar observations a few months ago here, or actually over there.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/14521-the-bistander-thread/page35#post496874

Clearly Thane has no idea what's going on.

Regards,

bi

Yea, same observation and good point.

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2020, 08:55:56 PM »
I sketched what really happens when you delay induced current by 45° and clearly acceleration should not happen, even with 90° offset, nothing changes. Something else is at play.

Only if you offset the induced current by 150° or more, hopefully 180°, you should get acceleration cause only in that case coil starts to repell the magnet only after it crosses the mid point.


What is strange about this delaying of current is that when delayed current starts to flow, voltage is being induced that opposes it. Does this new voltage not cancel out the original voltage? If not, this implies inductors have "memory". Things get tricky.

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2020, 10:38:08 PM »
Nix85
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I got those slideshares, that is where i quote from. Point is infinite efficiency and 80% less input do NOT mix.

Did you think about what you just said?. If 100% efficiency is (input = output) or COP 1 and your input is 80% less than that then the real input is only 20% of the output. If we input 2 watts and we get 10 watts out, a 20% input, then obviously we could simply loop part of the output back to the input... you with me?.

Now pay attention because this is where I lose 99% of people. The moment we loop the circuit or close the input/output it then forms a circle which obviously has no beginning or end. Do you understand?, a circle is a closed loop having no beginning or end thus qualifies as infinite. In fact any output which exceeds the input and system losses qualifies as infinite because it is now self-sustaining. Here's the real brain fart, if you actually understand what was said above then the very notion of an input/output is rather a primitive concept isn't it?. It's not really a matter of any input vs output but how much extra or external energy the input can transform as an output which part then loops back to the input. Ergo input vs output or efficiency is a primitive concept and should be avoided.

As it were this does not actually violate the conservation of energy or mass because Feynman/Wheeler have already proven there is enough energy in a cup of empty space to boil all the worlds oceans. That's just space and all matter also holds more energy as kinetic energy than most people can imagine. So energy is the least of our problems.

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What is strange about this delaying of current is that when delayed current starts to flow, voltage is being induced that opposes it. Does this new voltage not cancel out the original voltage? If not, this implies inductors have "memory". Things get tricky.

That's debatable and an opposing voltage is not always induced when a current starts to flow in a conductor. I understand the reasons why are beyond your current understanding however this may not always be the case. When I looked at this years ago I asked a simple question, under what circumstances could a current ie free electrons, be forced to move in a conductor but not develop an opposing force we call Lenz Law?. Look at all the possible ways it can happen and your half way there, it took me 3 years.

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Re: Heins' new videos and few corrections
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2020, 11:14:55 PM »
Nix85
Did you think about what you just said?...

The question is did YOU think before you wrote that drivel. Let me paint it simple for you, overunity systems by definition do not lower but ELIMINATE need for extrnal power intput.

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because Wheeler..

LOL, i could have expected you are follower of that clown who claims he discovered double vortexial nature of magnetic field ahahaha, HE HAS NO SHAME. Dielectric this dielectric that, what a parrot only most ignorant can fall for.

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That's debatable and an opposing voltage is not always induced when a current starts to flow in a conductor.

Opposing voltage IS always induced when there is is change of flux through the conductor.

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I understand the reasons why are beyond your current understanding

LOL, you remind me of myself years ago when i knew nothing but thought i knew everything. It might take you not 3 years but 3 lifetimes to get where i am at now and i have zero intention to brag.

Even with all i know now, how to cancel lenz, how to completely neutralize it, correct structure of the cosmic forcefield, that is, 6 axis of time and how they create illusion of 3d space, 4 great subforces, imablance of speed and density of two components of the Great Light and it's omnidirectional pressure in every point of space, x49 increase of density of matter, speed of light and rate of time flow for each of 7 "physical" planes, true nature of gravity and it's polar opposite, 2 ways to degravitate matter and how to produce the polar etheric current.. things you and your idol Wheeler don't have the slightest idea about, and still i am fully aware all i know is still very limited in the infinity. You on the other hand, know NOTHING.

So curb yourself down, kid, humble yourself, unless you want to remain at your present state of ignorance for good.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 12:36:22 AM »
I think this is clear but i'll point it out anyway, you can see that with 45° offset as claimed by Heins, when magnet reaches the mid of the coil there is still 1/4 of the positive current phase left (red) and this 1/4 accelerates the magnet + at the same time approaching south pole magnet is attracted by the coil, these two gains combined MIGHT explain it (especially considering it is known that magnetic attraction is slightly stronger than the repulsion).

Besides, in one of those slides he says offset can be anywhere from 50 to 90°, so, that makes drag part smaller and repulsion bigger, so that should be it.


I do not recommend anyone to go down this path, think in simpler terms, right angles and air cores.

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 01:44:20 AM »
Yes,it is not easy.


Newton laws alone do not give results..


So we need Newton laws and these laws independent Eulers Drallsatz ( in calculation later to Planksche Wirkungsquantumzahl)




https://patents.google.com/patent/US9934897B1/en Figure 17


Jack Hildenbrand magnetic valve : 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7453341B1/en


The inventor made a valve comprising a permanent magnet and an electromagnet such as shown in FIGS. 6 and 7.
 The permanent magnet was individually capable of creating 70 lbs. of magnetic pull. In the first test, 8 watts of power (i.e., 5 volts DC at 1.6 amps) was supplied to the electromagnet, thereby making the electromagnetic also individually capable of creating 70 lbs. of magnetic pull.
In other words, the energy force of the two magnets was substantially equal.

When the power was supplied to the electromagnet, the combined magnetic field of the permanent magnet and the electromagnet produced 280 lbs. of lifting force on a load.
 
In a third test, the inventor used two valves situated adjacent to each other. The power supplied to each valve was 8 watts (i.e., 5 volts DC at 1.6 amps). As a result, the total power used was 16 watts. Nevertheless, the valves created 560 lbs. of lifting force on a load.





                                                                          inversal process :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6342746B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20020129&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

FT54=(B/2)2A/,m0=B2A/4m0=FT26/4.


It is therefore seen that dividing the same amount of magnetic flux along two flux paths rather than along one flux path reduces the magnetic holding or coupling force on an armature by one-fourth rather than one-half as might have been expected. This unexpected magnetic holding or coupling force differential, resulting from multiple flux paths, can provide advantageous properties in linear, reciprocating, and rotary motion devices.


question :  M= r F  and M=  h F            M positive= M ccw       or           M negative = M cw   ?


magnetical leverarm and magnetical loadarm ?




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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2020, 02:12:03 AM »
Yes,it is not easy.

I suppose you want to say you did not understand what i explained so far so your concluded it's not easy altho all is very easy, it's only the lack of understanding that makes it appear hard.

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Newton laws alone do not give results..

I agree with that. I am glad you mentioned Newton cause i can now share very simple and powerful phenomena, yet totally unknown which i termed 4th Law of Motion which says:

Any unbalanced mass spinning 360° with varying speed or oscillating within 180° or less converts centrifugal force into linear acceleration.

In other words you can literally 'swim' in space. Imagine you are floating in space, you got a hammer in each hand. As you swing them in front of you horizontally in opposite directions (to cancel the backtorque and avoid spinning, otherwise it could be just one hammer) close to 180° but no further, resultant vector is pure unidirectional acceleration, that is, you are pulled forward just as if someone pushed you from behind.

This will probably not be understood by most of you, it confuses people as it confused me in the beginning but it is very simple and it works. What will confuse you the most is how is there no back-reaction from stopping the hammers from going beyond 180° and that is the key point...

THEY ARE STOPPED NOT DIRECTLY BUT AT THE AXIS OF ROTATION - BY FRICTION - OR, BY MUSCLE CONTRACTION IN THIS CASE. 0 BACKLASH.

Every time you swing a mass in front of you you are violating conservation of momentum and energy.

Simple demonstration of this principle > as long as ball keeps oscillating in the front, yellow area, centrifugal force will keep pulling the system forward interacting with nothing but space itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTMYgQDUzs

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2020, 02:18:25 AM »
When you take all freedome degrees,yes then it is easy !


But the application from the formulas are mainly fixed related Bezugspunkt/reference point in a 3 dimensional coordination system


You ,nix85,goes into the Minkowski space-time continuum > 3d  !


Die Freiheit nahm sich dessen Schueler auch, der spaetere Dr.phy. Albert Einstein

 

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