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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 04:19:11 PM »
molybdaen disulfit, specific density: 5,03 gr/qcm
1sqm= 10000 sqcm x 3 atomic layers (estimation:  3nm)
1nm= 1/1000000000 mtr. or 1/10000000 cm

ergo 10000 sqcm x 3/10000000 cm = 3/1000 qcm membran volume per sqm
5,03 ge/qcm x 3/1000 = 0,01509 gr/sqm membran

1 MW : 0,01509 gr : 66 MW per Gram molybdaen disulfit  power output

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2016, 10:51:58 PM »



    Oh how I miss MarkE. He would have known all about this stuff.
   All I can do is use gut instinct and good old Google.
     Anyways methinks what about looking up desalination because
   I want to know how much energy there is in saline. So,I come
    up with a figure of 3.5 watt hours litre to the minus one.
           John.

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2016, 09:37:34 AM »



   There we go,according to good old Keelynet a saltwater powered car goes 1,000 km
  on a couple of tanks of brine.
         John.

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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2016, 09:37:34 AM »
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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 05:23:00 PM »
It is an interesting proposition and nano-technology is going to change the world. In the big picture this energy technology is effectively Maxwell's Demon whereby something very small such as the membrane structure "filters" out electrical energy from matter. Energy is generally locked into matter because of the scale of the interactions at that level however when the method of extraction also acts at that level then we can access this energy.

It's important to keep our eye on the potential of these technologies, salt water and fresh water appear to have no usable energy to the layman... it's just plain old water. Then we add a catalyst to exploit the difference in internal energy states and wala we have an abundance of usable energy from plain old water. What about plain old air or plain old Earth or any other forms of matter or Energy we have completely taken for granted?.

We are at the start of the next industrial revolution in Energy when we stop gathering and burning stuff like cavemen and access usable energy directly from the environment. So why not a device sitting on our table which "filters" out energy from the environment just like this technology "filters" out energy from salt water/fresh water?. The technologies are very similar in my opinion and it's simply a matter of viewing the problem from the proper perspective. The fact is 20 years ago nobody would have predicted we could extract usable energy from salt water and fresh water however now we are and these new technologies are only the tip of a very large iceberg.

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2016, 05:38:15 AM »
I have done some simple testing and it is easier than thought to make a simple concentration cell.
Using Epson salt and some thin sandwich wrap for the membrane, a simple gradient cell produces about 250mv.

Just place some aluminum foil tape on the bottom of a plastic bowl and partially fill with clean water (tap water is reasonably conductive already)
Then cover with the sandwich wrap (Polyethylene) and cover with brine.
Add another aluminum electrode to the brine and connect a meter.

If you look around the net a bit, this is very common knowledge.
You could use sunlight to separate fresh water form the brine and return to the cell to generate power in an endless loop.

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 06:42:59 PM »

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2016, 06:09:42 PM »
Beside Carbon,Graphit,Graphene,CNT :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molybdenum_disulfide

http://inhabitat.com/mit-developing-solar-energy-funnels-that-could-harvest-more-energy-from-sunlight/

MoS2 is a natural semiconductor and it has a special characteristic called bandgap that allows it to be converted into solar cells or integrated circuits. This characteristic, along with the solar funnel, gives this material the ability to respond to different colors of light in ways that silicon simply can’t. Qian says that in silicon-based organic solar cells, “it’s a diffusion process and it’s very inefficient.” But a solar funnel on MoS2 creates a focused “collection site [at the film’s center], which should be more efficient for charge collection.”

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 07:23:04 PM »
                         molybdaen-membran output credibility:

Charles Brown: 100.000.000.000 diodes per sqcm x 10000 = 1 sqm
             
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

                                             1 diode output :
By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.

               100 billions x (     10000         x     2,4 mW             ) per sqm
                       diodes      sqm in sqcm      output per diode

                         ~ 2,40 trillion W per sqm (theoretical)
                             
                             240 million W per sqcm (theoretical)
                     
                                2,4 million W per sqmm , fingertip scale (theoretical)
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                                        reliable,2015 lab standart :
             http://www.csmantech.org/Digests/2015/abstracts/101R-0.15um%20GaN%20MMIC%20Manufacturing%20Technology%20for%202-50%20GHz%20Power%20Applications.pdf
                                                    3-8 W  level
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this will become concentrated power converter level -20 000 suns and more ,
probably also with Fermidiods/Diads : estimation 2035 +

transistor ,diodes,holes,gates,dots and circuit velocity
 industrial density numbers evolution
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor_count
Cell Broadband Engine: (2006) 9 cores per chip, 234 million transistors per chip.[63]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication
/2381153_Evaluation_of_Transistor_Densities_for_Submicronic_CMOS_Technologies

Analyze the trends in terms of transistor area and transistor count for the next generation ofintegrated circuits. For example, applying twice a shrinking factor 0.7 over the 0.18 µm process results in transistors with l=0.08 µm, with 1,000,000 transistors per square millimeter. Moreover,if it is possible to have an IC with 10 cm2, we will have a circuit with 1 billion transistors!

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/pdf/foundry/mark-bohr-2014-idf-presentation.pdf
                                   1,3 billion transistors on 82 sqmm
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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2020, 09:54:25 AM »
                         molybdaen-membran output credibility:

Charles Brown: 100.000.000.000 diodes per sqcm x 10000 = 1 sqm
             
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

                                             1 diode output :
By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.

               100 billions x (     10000         x     2,4 mW             ) per sqm
                       diodes      sqm in sqcm      output per diode

                         ~ 2,40 trillion W per sqm (theoretical)
                             
                             240 million W per sqcm (theoretical)
                     
                                2,4 million W per sqmm , fingertip scale (theoretical)
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                                        reliable,2015 lab standart :
             http://www.csmantech.org/Digests/2015/abstracts/101R-0.15um%20GaN%20MMIC%20Manufacturing%20Technology%20for%202-50%20GHz%20Power%20Applications.pdf
                                                    3-8 W  level
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this will become concentrated power converter level -20 000 suns and more ,
probably also with Fermidiods/Diads : estimation 2035 +

transistor ,diodes,holes,gates,dots and circuit velocity
 industrial density numbers evolution
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor_count
Cell Broadband Engine: (2006) 9 cores per chip, 234 million transistors per chip.[63]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication
/2381153_Evaluation_of_Transistor_Densities_for_Submicronic_CMOS_Technologies

Analyze the trends in terms of transistor area and transistor count for the next generation ofintegrated circuits. For example, applying twice a shrinking factor 0.7 over the 0.18 µm process results in transistors with l=0.08 µm, with 1,000,000 transistors per square millimeter. Moreover,if it is possible to have an IC with 10 cm2, we will have a circuit with 1 billion transistors!

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/pdf/foundry/mark-bohr-2014-idf-presentation.pdf
                                   1,3 billion transistors on 82 sqmm


https://www.google.com/search?q=novasolix&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=novasolix&aqs=chrome..69i57.5158j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8




http://sustainableskies.org/sas-2019-larry-cooke-novasolix/


Because NovaSolix collectors place “roughly one million tiny radio receivers per square inch, they are able to retrieve frequencies “from low infrared through visible light and up into the ultraviolet.”  Gathering the full spectrum enables conversion of weak light to small amounts of power.  A currently real 40-percent efficiency with a theoretical limit of 90 percent enables smaller, lighter panels to generate 400 Watts per square meter to 900 Watts per square meter.


The NovaSolix approach places roughly one trillion tiny radio receivers (rectennas) per square inch. Unlike PV cells, the NS cells are compatible with a wide range of frequencies from low infrared through visible light and up into the ultraviolet.




https://overunity.com/18471/29-april-2020-poste-criste/msg545792/#new  #26


Die Kombination aus Fritter, Klöppel, Telegrafenrelais und Morseschreiber ermöglichte in der Anfangszeit der Funktechnik, die damals sogenannten „drahtlosen Telegramme “ automatisch aufzuzeichnen.


Let us google translate this sentence : The combination of fritter, clapper, telegraph relay and Morse recorder made it possible in the early days of radio technology to automatically record the so-called "wireless telegrams" at the time


This is the ancient "receiver" standart,macro !  " one trillion tiny radio receivers (rectennas) per square inch "


                                                             
                                                                      thousand,x 1000 =million,x 1000 = billion,x 1000 =trillion




https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2144298A2/en applyable


BTW:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19941018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


                                                                      1 diode output by diode input

By way of example, an input signal of 6 microwatts with a bandwidth of 1 gigahertz is applied to diode 20 either as thermal energy or electric energy, and thermal energy is applied to diode 10. A signal-to-noise ration of 60 dB is obtained for the input signal for a temperature Tc of the cold diode 20 of 300 DEG K. For a temperature Tr of hot electrons in diode 10 of 6000 DEG K., the amplification of the input signal is 26 dB, which gives an output signal of 2.4 milliwatts. The amplified output signal also has a 60 dB signal-to-noise ratio.


                       2,4 milliwatts/6 mikrowatts = ?             2,4 milliwatts/0,006 milliwatts = ?           quantum mechanical heat pump C.O.P.




                                                                      1 diode = 1 nano heat pump or 1 nano receiver :)  also called "dots"


https://www.google.com/search?q=paintable+solar+dots&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=paintable+solar+dots&aqs=chrome..69i57.10844j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Re: Real Water Power that could be the game changer
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2020, 09:54:25 AM »
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