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Re: simple OU proof
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2020, 10:45:49 PM »
Two questions.  Does anyone know the answer to these ?

1. Is hho production by electrolysis more efficient (requires less electrical power) when it is done at a some low pressure within the production vessel (high altitude), as compared to, when it is done at some higher pressure (low altitude) within the production vessel ?

2. Is the combustion of hho less efficient (produce less power) when it is done at a some low atmospheric pressure (high altitude), than when it is done at some higher atmospheric pressure
(low altitude) ?

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Re: simple OU proof
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2020, 06:33:28 PM »
Two questions.  Does anyone know the answer to these ?

1. Is hho production by electrolysis more efficient (requires less electrical power) when it is done at a some low pressure within the production vessel (high altitude), as compared to, when it is done at some higher pressure (low altitude) within the production vessel ?

2. Is the combustion of hho less efficient (produce less power) when it is done at a some low atmospheric pressure (high altitude), than when it is done at some higher atmospheric pressure
(low altitude) ?

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Re: simple OU proof
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2020, 09:43:52 PM »
Two questions.  Does anyone know the answer to these ?
1. Is hho production by electrolysis more efficient (requires less electrical power) when it is done at a some low pressure within the production vessel (high altitude), as compared to, when it is done at some higher pressure (low altitude) within the production vessel ?
Surprisingly it is more efficient at high pressures and lower voltages.
This data comes from an experiment with electrolysis at the bottom of the ocean.

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Re: simple OU proof
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2020, 12:05:56 AM »
Thanks for the reply Verpies.

Do you know off hand, where I could access some data on that ?

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Re: simple OU proof
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2020, 12:32:53 AM »
Some discussion here at O.U. forum

https://overunity.com/6028/h20-and-bouyancy/msg137038/#msg137038

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2020, 09:14:11 AM »
Do you know off hand, where I could access some data on that ?   
In the book "Hydrogen Production: by Electrolysis" by Agata Godula-Jopek but I saw pressure vs. efficiency curves in another paper.

Depending on voltage, electrolysis can be endothermic or exothermic, so precise voltage control is important, too.
Temperature is another important factor. Any water temperature increase due to the electric current flow represents wasted energy.
Besides the obvious potential energy of the HHO bubbles buoyancy, the absorption of heat from the surrounding water as the bubbles rise in it, decompress and cool down (as any decompressing gas does) represents another flow of energy - heat energy transfer from water to HHO bubbles. Note the direction of this transfer.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2020, 06:42:30 PM »
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