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Author Topic: Simple and powerful principle  (Read 23140 times)

Offline nix85

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2020, 07:26:11 AM »
Can't believe that video has been around since 2012! Good catch, I might have seen that video but it didn't register in my mind at the time.

Need to start experimenting.

Yea, it's old but gold. I saw it long ago but did not fully realize it was an overunity system at the time. I already tried the basic principle with jar and water tank and of course it works as expected.

Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2020, 07:30:09 AM »
Yea, it's old but gold. I saw it long ago but did not fully realize it was an overunity system at the time. I already tried the basic principle with jar and water tank and of course it works as expected.
It almost was as if it was not meant for me/us to NOT understand it at that time.


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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2020, 07:40:42 AM »
It almost was as if it was not meant for me/us to NOT understand it at that time.

I guess so. Hoewever, i repeat once again, altho it is a beautiful principle which can offer at least 100x energy gain, it should not be used simply cause there are far better systems. But for fun, study and maybe even practical use as weight lifter or elevator, sure.

I can imagine one application could be to use it instead of cable cars. That would be quite cool.

One downside is, if a valve broke, it would create a flood with that amount of water released, but that could hardly ever happen.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2020, 08:17:30 AM »
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There is no energy crisis, there is only intellectual-spiritual crisis of mankind. Like i said this is primitive principle and should not be built except maybe for fun. There are thousands of working OU principles, there are devices in every country being sold right now. It would be idiotic to say the least to build a system based on the principle and then go against lenz brute force.

Well said.

It's like were living in this new age where most people blame everyone else for there own ignorance as if they were a victim.

The fact is we are swimming in a sea of energy where perpetual motion is the norm because nobody can give even one example of something not in perpetual motion. I mean I could rest my case on that single point alone because the answer is so obvious and in our face it speaks for itself. I have hundreds of points but lo and behold it only takes one, lol.

Personally, that is my go to question and I could walk into any room full of hundreds of critics and simply ask for one example of something not in perpetual motion and they have nothing to say to me. So if any of you have an issue with stupid people just ask my question... give me one example of anything not in perpetual motion. Problem solved.



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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2020, 08:37:49 AM »
I was trying to think why this system would not work or at least come to a stop. Wouldn't the water eventually leak out every time an object inters the feeding tube?
But it seems like even if that was the case the output would be great enough to pump water back into the system?

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2020, 07:11:36 AM »
Anyone know what those water separates are called for the tube? Where to buy?

Offline Turbo

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2020, 08:46:52 PM »
More sarcasm doesn't help you. I hope you at least realized now how stupid the rotating tube idea is.

Yes indeed i agree i had not fully understood the exact mechanism.
So now i made a new design based off the principle.


Offline nix85

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2020, 11:08:42 PM »
Yes indeed i agree i had not fully understood the exact mechanism.
So now i made a new design based off the principle.

Yes, you could do it like that too.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2020, 08:18:05 PM »

Hi Nix85,
You have a very good point with this buoyancy system. Do you remember Rosch https://rosch.ag/uk_kpp.php# ? Their system seemed not to work. But one could imagine a system like their towers. I attach a sketch. It could be automated somehow. Or like the Rosch towers, simply have the units on a moving belt, both up and down, that drives a generator.


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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2020, 08:32:14 PM »
I found some old ideas I had about how to get it to work. One was having a mercury tower and a water tower.

Offline Turbo

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2020, 09:22:34 PM »
I had also thought about that but its kinda hard to extract any energy like that.
That is why i used the 2 stroke engine principle so that it can drive a crank shaft which in turn can be loaded.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2020, 09:34:31 PM »
Better to use Air ans Water. Mercury is not such a good idea.  ;)

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2020, 10:06:50 PM »
if these things are connected to each other then it wont work because the energy gets evenly distributed across all balls.

Offline nix85

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2020, 10:40:27 PM »
Hi Nix85,
You have a very good point with this buoyancy system. Do you remember Rosch https://rosch.ag/uk_kpp.php# ? Their system seemed not to work. But one could imagine a system like their towers. I attach a sketch. It could be automated somehow. Or like the Rosch towers, simply have the units on a moving belt, both up and down, that drives a generator.

Yes, same thing.

Offline hdeasy

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2020, 09:45:25 AM »
in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5qd7bEiqA&t=897s  between about 12 and 20 minutes you see the operation of their system - it's all in water! They need compressors to have the units air filled while rising and water filled while sinking. In my version you just use the trapped bubble of air on one sealed side of the towers to have an air return.