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Author Topic: Simple and powerful principle  (Read 23136 times)

Offline nix85

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Simple and powerful principle
« on: March 18, 2020, 12:30:59 AM »
This is a simple, primitive but beautiful principle of unquestionable free energy, i been thinking along these lines with balloons and today i remembered the old video i seen about this guy's theory how pyramids were built.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxFXsoqbfrk

Of course, they were not built this way, blocks were floated by extremely high voltage (around 45MV) but i love the principle and strangely, guy apparently doesn't even realize principle is overunity.

It utilizes gravity in two ways, firstly, air pressure allows water in a closed cylinder to rise to any level above the actual water level as long as it is closed. Second way is buoyancy, that objects less dense than water will always float to the top. That is all there is to it.

In video he demonstrates the principle with small weights, that rock might be 1 or 2 kg at most but same principle could be scaled up to lift tons or thousands of tons to any height as long as it's made buoyant.

So this is how i imagined it for fun, let's say we got a cylinder tower 100 meters high full of water inside, which is immersed in a pool of water much like in the video. There is an opening for inserting blocks to float.

Blocks are weighting 1 ton but are made to weight about -1kg by air tank or whatever attached, so it is easy to manipulate with them.

1 cubic meter of water is 1 ton and lead is 11 times denser than water. So it would be a block of lead 44.8 cm x 44.8 cm x 44.8 cm attached to 1 meter cube airtank, very small.

Once they float up to the top, valve 1 is closed, valve 2 opened and block is moved to the larger pool on the right.

What just happened is that 1 ton block gained tremendous potential energy and all the input energy we invested was to close one valve and open another, relatively small electric motor does it.

By controlled descent of the bloks that huge potential energy could then be tapped.

And why use 1 ton blocks when 100 ton blocks could be achieved in relatively small volume.

Like i said, it is primitive, not a system that should actually be built, but interesting to know and admire.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2020, 07:31:58 AM »

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 11:38:13 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/embed/V1y4_gr4LtE

Flawed design, dropping ball could not enter the bottom tank without spilling the equivalent volume of water from it.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 01:27:10 PM »
Now this is getting interesting.
That design is no different in water replacement then the pressure of the bubble wrap that needs to be pushed underwater to enter the pipe.
Let's try a different approach.
Can you please explain how and why your example is undoubtedly free energy ?

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2020, 03:14:33 PM »
Now this is getting interesting.
That design is no different in water replacement then the pressure of the bubble wrap that needs to be pushed underwater to enter the pipe.
Let's try a different approach.
Can you please explain how and why your example is undoubtedly free energy ?

Difference is that bubble wrap is pushed into open container and water level is allowed to rise.

You ask why is this undoubtedly free energy and i am left speechless.

Did you read my first post, do you see what happens.

Any weight can be lifted to any height with no input energy whatsoever except to open and close two valves.

Let's say we float 10 tons to 100 meters, we only used energy to open and close two valves (not counting putting blocks into the water tank), let's say we used 3kw geared motor for few minutes, input energy is few dozen watt-hours.

At the same time we gained potential energy of 9806650 joules aka 2724 watthours, that is, ~130 times more than the input energy.

I hope it's clear to you now.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2020, 04:11:05 PM »
Definitely needs discussion and "whatif ?" ideas..

even tiny experiments ...kitchen table/bath tub stuff !
magic doors have been the downfall of many systems [underestimating energy to cycle against pressure or other issues

 Vid again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxFXsoqbfrk
 thx Chet
 

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2020, 04:24:47 PM »
All i seen is words.
Words are not free energy and neither is buoyancy.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2020, 04:48:14 PM »
All i seen is words.
Words are not free energy and neither is buoyancy.

Buoyancy is free energy in this context.

Gravity is lifting weight up, with no input energy. ANY WEIGHT, to ANY HEIGHT.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2020, 05:02:43 PM »
"underestimating energy to cycle against pressure or other issues"

When block is made to weight about 0 there is no need for pressure, you can push that 10 ton block below the surface with your pinky literally. Other "losses" are orders of magnitude below energy gain.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2020, 05:12:33 PM »
That cylinder could be 1km high as well and that small stone 100 tons. It would float to the top with same grace and ease.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2020, 09:41:45 PM »
You are probably wondering where does energy come from, think of certain etheric pressure coming from the centers of galaxies and the suns. It is primal form of energy, non-polarized and only small part of it converts to light heat and warmth, only small part of it we feel as gravity and it's polar opposite.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2020, 07:10:55 PM »
Well you c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqfZjaLutFA

And read the comment section

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2020, 07:34:37 PM »
Stupid video to say the least, of course bowl weights the same. What's the point.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 07:42:32 PM »