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Offline Leely

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2020, 11:01:36 AM »
I believe that magicians were the ones that built the pyramids of Egypt., because their magicians were in support of the people's  doing. Magic could put a pen through a glass bottle, then people are shown. How was it done? It is magic. So magic could actually carry weights you know.

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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2020, 01:09:00 PM »
Government funded Troll that quickly wants to bury the valuable info on the previous page.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2020, 03:59:29 PM »
"in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5qd7bEiqA&t=897s  between about 12 and 20 minutes you see the operation of their system - it's all in water! They need compressors to have the units air filled while rising and water filled while sinking. In my version you just use the trapped bubble of air on one sealed side of the towers to have an air return."


Their system is not good. And your system is same as mine first drawing. In both one needs to lift the weight at the top and transfer it to other  side to be dropped. Once again, this is interesting OU principle but is too primitive.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2020, 05:18:59 PM »
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Their system is not good. And your system is same as mine first drawing. In both one needs to lift the weight at the top and transfer it to other  side to be dropped. Once again, this is interesting OU principle but is too primitive.


Granted. Now all that needs to be done is to automate it. If even 100Kg weights could b used. and a tower of 2.0387m height, then energy gained per weight and ascent is E = mgh = 100x9.81x 2.0387= 2000J. If your automation process could shift it over within 1s,
then if there is a steady stream of weights, that could give up to 2kW. You's have to go to a wider or taller system to get more. Wider as if you want 1000Kg you may need a wider weight with lighter material padded round. Or if you expand vertically you need more leg room upwards.

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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2020, 05:57:36 PM »

Granted. Now all that needs to be done is to automate it. If even 100Kg weights could b used. and a tower of 2.0387m height, then energy gained per weight and ascent is E = mgh = 100x9.81x 2.0387= 2000J. If your automation process could shift it over within 1s,
then if there is a steady stream of weights, that could give up to 2kW. You's have to go to a wider or taller system to get more. Wider as if you want 1000Kg you may need a wider weight with lighter material padded round. Or if you expand vertically you need more leg room upwards.

I did similar calculation, it is very very low power output, even with weights like 10 tons. For the 10th time, this is NOT a good OU principle for energy generation.

I said it in other threads, i'll say it again, focus on lenz neutralization, air cores and right angles.

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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2020, 07:11:02 PM »
Thanks for sharing.


Yes as you say Nix there is an obvious overunity effect with this simple concept.


Have you heard of the heron pump apparently not overunity but if you could apply this concept with the heron pump it could or can work.


Anyways with the overunity effect going on doing work you have to tap it externally so if it was automated use the stored power from the over cop 1 effect to repeat the cycle and i bet you would have left over excess power.


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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2020, 07:34:48 PM »
Thanks for sharing.


Yes as you say Nix there is an obvious overunity effect with this simple concept.


Have you heard of the heron pump apparently not overunity but if you could apply this concept with the heron pump it could or can work.


Anyways with the overunity effect going on doing work you have to tap it externally so if it was automated use the stored power from the over cop 1 effect to repeat the cycle and i bet you would have left over excess power.


Dan

I youtubed it, i see it's self perpetuated fountain that doesn't work. It immediatelly reminded me of book Etidorphpa where being from inner Earth explains how water can rise above it's level, apparently conquering gravity.

Here it is https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti35.htm

"I tell you that mother earth, in the phenomena known as artesian wells, uses sand and clay, pools of mineral waters of different gravities, and running streams. The waters beneath the earth are under pressure, induced by such natural causes as I have presented you in miniature, the chief difference being that the supplies of both salt and fresh water are inexhaustible, and by natural combinations similar to what you have seen; the streams within the earth, if a pipe be thrust into them, may rise continuously, eternally, from a reservoir higher than the head. In addition, there are pressures of gases, and solutions of many salts, other than chloride of soda, that tend to favor the phenomenon."

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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2020, 06:07:12 PM »
Take a look at this!


https://youtu.be/gxnHJoyrQpM

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2020, 06:13:46 PM »
Nice find

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2020, 08:44:23 AM »
Nice video indeed. The only problem is the transition water to air. Note that he doesn't show that part as it's probably manual. It could be automated, however. But still, though this does give power it's funny that nobody wants to develop it. I suppose those really interested in OU have their circuits or other systems that do it better and more compact. I for instance have a good plan for an all magnet system. Also one based on inertial forces. And from 10 years ago a motor using Lorentz fore in a special way. 

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2020, 07:04:02 PM »
I think a simple leverage mechanism can lift the float/weight somehow from the top of the tube. Having gates at the top and button of the tube keeps the water from draining.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »
See attached image.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2020, 10:01:10 PM »
3 gates is better.

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2020, 10:59:05 PM »
What would be the advantage

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Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2020, 11:27:58 PM »
Less pressure, I think it makes it easier to work with the gates.

 

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