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Offline conradelektro

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2020, 08:14:05 PM »
What i am saying is, there is real torque and power with the earths rotational fly wheel, and when you connect your magnet with it, the potential goes into your magnet, meaning your magnet can self sustain with rotational moving as well as powering a generator with a load and fully work that way.

Like a fly wheel of a car engine, and a inter link flywheel see it that way.

Your tapping into the earths flywheel of motion so as the earth moves there is momentum and when your magnet communicates with it, in a compass like way where it won't stop spinning is how that is done.

I am afraid you are getting carried away. But if you have fun, it is ok. The invention of free energy, what a feast.

I just want to remind you, the earth will stop turning (eventually) if you tap into the earth's flywheel (if you really could).

Greetings, Conrad

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2020, 08:48:40 PM »
Exactly what I am claiming, the weight of the magnet bar (or ring magnet) together with the string (its properties) cause the spinning (till the string reaches the limit of its stretchability).

Use a fishing line (technically speaking: a monofilar string)!


I don't have it now monofilar string:(

the weight of the magnet doesn't mean it spins faster or slower. It is rather related to the shape of the magnetic field.
ok I don't know why the magnet is rotating. Maybe it's the fault of the string and tension when stretching.
More tests need to be done.

Do none of you have two magnets to perform a similar test ?!

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2020, 10:05:25 PM »
I did some tests with different magnets and they all rotate CCW. If the white thread were not twisted, the magnet would spin all the time. These are the features of Free Energy!

Do you have something which is similar to the magnets in weight and shape, but not magnetic ?
Like some big washers, or an object made of glass would be even better because it's also non-metallic.

If such a non-magnetic object doesn't spin with the same rope, but a magnet does, then we have something interesting.

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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2020, 10:05:25 PM »
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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2020, 10:18:57 PM »
I am afraid you are getting carried away. But if you have fun, it is ok. The invention of free energy, what a feast.

I just want to remind you, the earth will stop turning (eventually) if you tap into the earth's flywheel (if you really could).

Greetings, Conrad
Well if it will stop turning, that means no real potiential energy to power a load and with the way the earth operates it should have stopped turning some many years ago, and this has to be tested because like earth and like the machine that taps the flywhee of the earthl behaves the same and you know this.


But while is still turns you can still get the momentum of it and power a load, and if this device with it's resistt loads can stop it (the earth) even further then whey but the earth has no friction it is 100% though regarding friction free.

But what sustains the earth motion i reckon is like the casmir force effect, the acceleration of the motion maintains the equal speed of the earths rotation, just a theory.

It is indeed a form of tapping the earth's flywheel from the obvious interaction.


:-)


Yes am getting carried away anyways it is like a form of solar power even the sun will die.


Dan.


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Offline r2fpl

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 10:51:06 PM »
Unfortunately this is not an FE.  A thin white thread during tension has an additional power one that drives the magnet.
Nothing more. That's all :(

Thank you all

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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2020, 10:56:01 PM »
Unfortunately this is not an FE. A thin white thread during tension has an additional loosening one that drives the magnet.
Nothing more. That's all :(


Indeed the system will have losses everywhere, but the acceleration of earth momentum like the casmir force which sustains the earths rotation (with a acceration effect just like the casmir force) will overcome the losses and exceed with left over excess force to power a load and will accelerate right up to the equal speed of the earths rotation like equal forces of a magnet, it will be self sustaining just like what self sustains the earth's motion,


Where it gets momentum is just like the casmir force effect.


So what you discovered is indeed a form of energy being put to use with what you have tested

I'll be quiet now.

Take that with a pinch of salt.


Dan.

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2020, 11:03:54 PM »
" Nothing more. That's all  "






no,it is a part from some steps more :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130814&CC=DE&NR=102012002418A1&KC=A1


Mosaics : above,right side




btw: citing the above last "earth field force converter"-list application


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=7&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20180411&CC=RU&NR=2016139919A&KC=A


EFFECT: technical result consists in providing the possibility of obtaining electricity at any point of the Earth, at any time of the year and day, under any weather conditions.


" Nothing more. That's all  " ;) ::) :)

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2020, 01:04:08 AM »
r2fpl , I go to test your invention with a string and 2 (speaker) magnets
Maybe no free energy in my project but the spinning effect in one direction is the same.In this case it is a double spinning effect and this gives extra energy back from the BEMF.So, this is also a kind of pendulum motor with a steel shaft and a low friction magnet bearing giving the shaft a real 360 degree rotational freedom. The magnet hangs horizontally.
This is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmt3pPLNEJo



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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2020, 11:35:10 AM »
If the experiment in the first post was actually showing free energy from the earth's magnetic field then compasses would be useless because they would always be spinning.  You could hang a lead weight on the string and see the same effect.  The weight is causing the string to untwist from its naturally twisted condition.

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2020, 11:42:18 AM »
If the experiment in the first post was actually showing free energy from the earth's magnetic field then compasses would be useless because they would always be spinning.  You could hang a lead weight on the string and see the same effect.  The weight is causing the string to untwist from its naturally twisted condition.


Gyroscopes and how they work is what i am on about, the gyroscope will keep momentum moving forever.


Like the compass effect, but view the compass effect with the gyroscope.

Study the gyroscope very closely and you will see the true nature of the physics regarding it.


Can a gyroscope produce electricity?
This precession of the spinning gyroscope is then used to drive the rotary motor generator to continuously rotate and thus generate electricity. The entirety or a portion of the generated electricity may be directly used to power an electric load or device.20 May 2008

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/will-this-gyroscope-spin-forever.823092/

Gyroscopic effect is ability (tendency) of the rotating body to maintain a steady direction of its axis of rotation. The gyroscopes are rotating with respect to the axis of symmetry at high speed

It seems my idea of tapping earth fly wheel has been fully been accomplished and did not know but the gyroscope is the perfect example of my tapping earths flywheel, it also tilts like the earth so yea.

In the absence of forces to dissipate the energy and momentum of the gyroscope, it will continue to precess forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqUV-DXiUg

https://science.howstuffworks.com/gyroscope1.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q0qXRetpB4- some gyroscope free energy overunity device

Gyroscope is not fake technology you can buy them all across the internet like amazon below as well as many many many websites.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/3B-Scientific-U52006-u52006-Gyroscope/dp/B07D3JZPMG/ref=asc_df_B07D3JZPMG/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=394232177913&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10891209039558515925&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006548&hvtargid=pla-867117200574&psc=1&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=80755809974&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=394232177913&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10891209039558515925&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006548&hvtargid=pla-867117200574

Or here below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7375436B1/en

Also more importantly watch this > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mD6fHYQ694

This picture link below shows the compass like effect where it find's no axis and in the process keep spinning forever, precess forever with the momentum.

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/88331300_10158073423452375_2511814221797261312_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQmMg6xAITA8q99XdpRu0V7GFmbfCHukdsJZXXao9oMRH86SiExg0cLLSv0987u8B5U&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=82f8a93bb179e36de286cafe7a79fd4f&oe=5E8EE7DA

The concept proof of how the gyroscope works is the anti virus for the physics world and there has been heated debates about it because of that, with how it works.

With the same exact principles of the gyroscope you will have a working gravity motor.

The way the gyroscope works is internally not externally tapping into the earths magnetic or gravity or both, flywheel ;-).

This gyroscope is what people needs for free energy so read this > http://blog.fabric.ch/index.php?/archives/394-Harnessing-the-Energy-from-the-Earths-Rotation.html

There are various different techniques with the gyroscope effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsOU0WEc6OU

it is a solid proof concept > https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Gyroscopic_motion
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2020, 11:47:01 AM »
there has been a problem : for the ancient cruisaders and today for Airbus and Boeing ( some came down : faster than planed,accidently)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompassfehler

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKompassfehler

Work out the Peregrinus to Bacon to Gilbert to Larmor  magnetism disclosure !

this is part from this concept !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140213&CC=US&NR=2014042850A1&KC=A1

Why do we use and how "phase shift" by which angle momentum and interchange angle velocity  ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlkocM0Crko




                      perpetual motion by periodical stimulation

from SEIKO KINETICS https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seiko.at%2Fhome%2Fkollektionen%2Fkinetic.html


to

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=de_EP&FT=D&date=19810301&CC=SE&NR=8006009L&KC=L

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2020, 02:10:48 PM »
lftdaniel1 , what will be a static "flywheel" ,no macro-mechanical movement  ?


from macro-mechanical rotations  : 1 Rotor-wheel  x 1 RPM to 10,100,1000,..... RPMs


                                                    2 Rotor-wheels x 1,10,100,1000,...... RPMs


                                                   ...


to electric micro-turns :


1 turn/winding-coil/foils        x 1,10,100,1000,.... Ampere-turns ~ 1,10,100,1000 ,.. rotation/-s
10 turns/windings-coil/foils  x 1,10,100,1000,.... Ampere-turns ~ 10,100,1000, ...   rotations
....
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF0Xz9h7mOde4y39ANX9DBw minute 8:50 how this "static flywheel" is to construct !

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Re: Real Free Energy from magnets !
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2020, 02:33:07 PM »
lftdaniel1 , what will be a static "flywheel" ,no macro-mechanical movement  ?


from macro-mechanical rotations  : 1 Rotor-wheel  x 1 RPM to 10,100,1000,..... RPMs


                                                    2 Rotor-wheels x 1,10,100,1000,...... RPMs


                                                   ...


to electric micro-turns :


1 turn/winding-coil/foils        x 1,10,100,1000,.... Ampere-turns ~ 1,10,100,1000 ,.. rotation/-s
10 turns/windings-coil/foils  x 1,10,100,1000,.... Ampere-turns ~ 10,100,1000, ...   rotations
....
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF0Xz9h7mOde4y39ANX9DBw minute 8:50 how this "static flywheel" is to construct !


We are pretty much on the same wave length, by seeing for what it really is instead of reasoning with what we have been taught or what mainstream science knows.


I know and so do you that the electro static nature is imbalanced like like the exact principle of the gyroscope same applys here but if you try to tap the flywheel externally you are cut off from it due to laws of energy which is external thinking.


If the gyroscope can do it internally then for sure this electro static method is fully possible.


Because of gyroscope you are using electrostatic,


Anyways the gyroscope taps the flywheel of the earth and the energy it gives during the duration of when it spins the output will be far far greater then the input to maintain the spinning process.

If you ram up the rpm using gears to make the rpm faster of this constant speed of the flywheel process well i do not recommend it because the load would be too much for it to sustain it self, but if left at its constant speed then this won't happen and will work as in self sustaining during its spin period along with excess power to be used for a load.

 

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