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Title: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2020, 01:56:50 PM
This from one of our better Open source researcher/investigators ...more accurate and useful information and tips for fighting it from healthcare persons in effected areas.
here Zinc and other ....[ongoing...?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215)

Thx to member Verpies
Chet K
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 08, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
Sorry, I time available was limited.

Many thanks to Verpies,

The additional NHS information regarding washing hands in detergent based appears to
be helpful, but make no mistake the second video mentions the virus can enter any aperture of the body
ears eyes etcetera and it's main difference to the Sarse viruses is it can easily cover a distance of some 6ft and appears to have an incubation period of not 14 days but more like 30 days as discused in the second video.
 to be a threat to the weaker and part of society As if Nature hasconveniently produced as an intelligent selector for the survival of the young and the fittest.

And there is this >   https://www.brighteon.com/2d5094d8-0f1d-4080-8840-f88cbe66c6eb

And  is there any truth in this ?  Viruses can not exist in an acidic body.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 08, 2020, 05:15:37 PM
Ray about 15 min mark and on..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215)
I have not watched your Movie yet [seems you have not watched short link above [[ put on double speed and captions if ...? ]

Is your Vid similar helpful info and explanation /suggestions for fighting this strain of virus spread ? uncertain about PH suggestions but most certainly would be good to know the PH threshold for this strain to hinder its growth.

Chet K

PS
I do know many Virus are being experimented with worldwide to fight disease ...cancers etc
this topic should hopefully be more about suggestions for Fighting the virus spread ..

// Here member Danny shares info http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/health-fitness-nutrition/496880-corona-virus-and-covid19#post496889 (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/health-fitness-nutrition/496880-corona-virus-and-covid19#post496889)snip
 Now U.S. researchers at the Virginia Commonwealth University have discovered that intravenous vitamin C given every six hours for four days within hours of admission reduced the risk of patients with sepsis dying from 46 per cent in a placebo group to almost 30 per cent in the vitamin C group after a month.
 On average, the vitamin C group spent three days fewer in intensive care and a week less in the hospital overall.
 The NHS warns that taking extremely large amounts (more than 10g per day) of vitamin C can cause stomach pain, diarrhoea and flatulence.
 But ‘there is no known level of vitamin C which is toxic’, says Dr Levy.
 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ronavirus.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8067189/Chinas-doctors-racing-Vitamin-C-beat-coronavirus.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: e2matrix on March 08, 2020, 08:08:07 PM

And there is this >   https://www.brighteon.com/2d5094d8-0f1d-4080-8840-f88cbe66c6eb (https://www.brighteon.com/2d5094d8-0f1d-4080-8840-f88cbe66c6eb)

And  is there any truth in this ?  Viruses can not exist in an acidic body.


That seems the opposite of what I have learned:  "Disease cannot survive in an alkaline state; however, in a low oxygen/low pH (acidic) state, viruses, bacteria, yeast, mold, fungus, Candida and Cancer cells all thrive."
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 08, 2020, 10:05:05 PM

That seems the opposite of what I have learned:  "Disease cannot survive in an alkaline state; however, in a low oxygen/low pH (acidic) state, viruses, bacteria, yeast, mold, fungus, Candida and Cancer cells all thrive."
Candida and Cancer cells all thrive realy ? hang on isn't Candida and Cancer isn't a virus  ;D ;D it's some thing else.

You might be interested in recent availability of CBD for some types of cancer the lack of B17 in your diet you might want to go into.

good luck
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 10, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
from member Grumpy...Quote
Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1001176 (https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1001176)

One might notice a "coincidence" in regions with low zinc diets and increased cases of COVID-19, such as Iran, China, and Italy.
end quote
I added this short list of natural Zinc sources below
  Oysters (make the top of the list), lobsters, crab and other seafood. Red meat, like beef, lamb and pork, as well as liver have bigger amounts of zinc than fish. The dark meat of a turkey or chicken contains more zinc than the light.
 Baked beans and chickpeas.
 A lot of the nuts contain zinc. The top of the list is made by cashews, almonds and peanuts.
 Yogurt.
 Cheddar cheese.
 Fruits and vegetables, according to Medical Centre of University of Maryland (http://umm.edu/health/medical/ency/articles/zinc-in-diet), do not make a good source of zinc, because in plant proteins, unlike animal proteins, zinc is not available for the use by the body, thus the vegetarian and low-protein diets appear to be low in zinc.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 11, 2020, 10:25:49 AM
Yes the zinc thing also involves eating such things as the kernels of shrubs and trees that have roots that are able to reach far into the ground where the rarer minerals can be found, such as apples oranges apricots etc that are rich in B17. Where free roaming animals can feed on such material.

One should only eat meat that has been fed on this type of food and avoid stuff bread or grown on oil base fertilisers.

pea nuts and cashew nuts are not really nuts and belong to the same family as tomatoes and peppers, some beans and have there own toxins for there own bug control

Raymondo

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: MasterPlaster on March 11, 2020, 11:49:47 AM
Colloidal silver is the key.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 11, 2020, 01:54:03 PM
prevention of "all family members" : humans and pets ..... https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fnp.de%2Fdeutschland%2Fcoronavirus-gefahr-haustiere-katze-hund-schuetzen-zr-13524079.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fnp.de%2Fdeutschland%2Fcoronavirus-gefahr-haustiere-katze-hund-schuetzen-zr-13524079.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 12, 2020, 01:34:30 AM
Lanca, yes pets get Corona but not this strain ?
Here more from member Grumpy
/// quote  "for anyone wondering how long the infection is contagious after showing symptoms:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/people-shed-high-levels-of-coronavirus-study-finds-but-most-are-likely-not-infectious-after-recovery-begins/ (https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/people-shed-high-levels-of-coronavirus-study-finds-but-most-are-likely-not-infectious-after-recovery-begins/)

incubation is 5 to 7 days

this is comforting:
The study also noted that people who are infected begin to develop antibodies to the virus quickly, typically within six to 12 days. The rapid rise of antibodies may explain why about 80% of people infected with the virus do not develop severe disease.end quote
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 12, 2020, 10:02:20 AM
Robert-Koch-Institute ( Virology)  :

incubation time 2-14 days,this makes for the 14 days and more "Quarantaene"- time responsible !

A great Corona-infection difference : mortal rate Italy 6,6%  / South-Korea 0,7%



To understand "media-numbers":
Germany has 83 Mio. habitants, one per mille = 1/1000 active infectants would be a medical system collaps :
28000 beds illness treatment emergency room  capacity / 83000 patients ( as 1/1000 "Pandemie" example)

Comparison :

Influenza/Grippe 119000 cases only in Germany season 2019/2020 and 249 deaths by Influenza(symptoms/-effects)

Also : aviaere Influenza ~ Vogel-Grippe/"Gefluegelpest"( but Influenza -Virus not Pest-Virus) actual H5N1         
           but in Asia actually the real swine-pest  a problem !


Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: darediamond on March 12, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
Colloidal silver is the key.

Please how?

Will it kill the Virus or how exactly will it work?
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Newton II on March 14, 2020, 12:32:17 PM

This from one of our better Open source researcher/investigators ...more accurate and useful information and tips for fighting it from healthcare persons in effected areas.
here Zinc and other ....[ongoing...?

Chet K

In some places I have seen farmers growing a waste crop in between main desired crop so that the pests attack the waste crop and their main crop is saved.  May be this is a type of biological pest control.

Similarly  if large numbers of dead and weakened bacteria are injected into human body,  the viruses may feed on these bacteria rather than attacking human cells. Mean while the patient can take proper medicines, food, vitamins etc, to strengthen the white blood cells which
kill the viruses.

My doubt about vaccination is,  do the dead and weakened bacteria injected into human body prepare WBC to fight the germs or just become the food for germs diverting their attention from attacking body cells?
 
Just a question, please don't mistake.

Here is another method to kill the viruses :

https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2020, 01:14:08 PM

60%-70% habitants controled Corona-infection needed for immunization !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FWoher-kommen-diese-60-bis-70-Prozent-article21634342.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FWoher-kommen-diese-60-bis-70-Prozent-article21634342.html)




and there are other virus-kinds in action ( from 2009 !)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FBei-Erwachsenen-entdeckt-article46148.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FBei-Erwachsenen-entdeckt-article46148.html)


Almost every second hospital patient examined suffered from acute bronchitis and every fourth from pneumonia.15% even had heart failure.As a result, every 10th clinical patient had to be artificially ventilated or treated in an intensive care unit.So far, infection with metapneumoviruses can only be treated symptomatically, and there is also no vaccination.

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/human-metapneumovirus-hmpv/learn-about-hmpv.html (https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/human-metapneumovirus-hmpv/learn-about-hmpv.html)

https://www.cdc.gov/adenovirus/index.html (https://www.cdc.gov/adenovirus/index.html)




Probably a global " clean air act" helps for a better and healthier human respiratory system ,over all seasons !
And " clean food",without anti-biotics !



This "individual car free cities"- moment as common future living style !





https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FDie-Coronavirus-Krise-in-Spanien-article21641400.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FDie-Coronavirus-Krise-in-Spanien-article21641400.html)


"Corona-Virus in Europe"
actually 1/10000 habitants in Europe are officially infected ,far away from the 60-70% society vaccination by controled -over two years:2020,2021,2022-infection for society immunization




https://www.fr.de/sport/jeder-kann-sein-immunsystem-gegen-viren-scharf-stellen-13596104.html (https://www.fr.de/sport/jeder-kann-sein-immunsystem-gegen-viren-scharf-stellen-13596104.html)

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2020, 11:19:35 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FZahlen-bitte-3-4-Coronavirus-Fallsterblichkeit-False-Number-4679338.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FZahlen-bitte-3-4-Coronavirus-Fallsterblichkeit-False-Number-4679338.html)



Extreme heterogeneity - or definition chaos ...

The confusion about the Spanish flu would not be too bad, it was a long time ago - only the definition chaos continues to this day. Scientists have long complained of this "extreme heterogeneity" and, for example, systematically examined the results of 50 studies with 77 flu virus estimates in 2009. These ranged from 1 to 10,000 deaths per 100,000 cases ( Case fatality risk of influenza A (H1N1pdm09): a systematic review (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.google.com/url%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D3%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26ved%3D2ahUKEwivpvPkoI7oAhWVTBUIHchsB5IQFjACegQIAxAB%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%252Fpmc%252Farticles%252FPMC3809029%252F%26usg%3DAOvVaw3Q-gOKiQ4dzBcglQyhABSc&usg=ALkJrhig7Rf-vg3LXG-uHho4VZdCwxAzcQ) ). It is often not entirely clear on which bases the values ​​are based. And even if there are, there are still major methodological differences. Scientists should therefore always make the references clear.


       1  / 100000           =        0,001 %  mortality
10000 /  100000           =      10,0     %  mortality


that is called "professionalism" !  :P 


actually the mortal risc based by Corona-virus for the under 50 years age male/female group : +-    0,3 % !






divide et impera over "numbers" : male/female cases,under 50 years,50-60 years group,61-70 years group,71-80 years group




by average habitants life expectance by 75-80 years  the death risc between 65 and more is "in geral" percentual ever higher,with-/out influenza or corona !


https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1039211/umfrage/sterblichkeit-durch-das-coronavirus-nach-altersgruppen-in-china/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1039211/umfrage/sterblichkeit-durch-das-coronavirus-nach-altersgruppen-in-china/)



Coronavirus mortality rate by age group in China 2020
Published by Statista Research Department, Mar 12th 2020


  Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) puts men above the age of 50 at risk. This emerges from an analysis by the Chinese health authorities on the number of infections with the novel coronavirus. In mid-February 2020, 10,008 people in the 50-59 year-old age group were infected with the coronavirus in China. From this age group, the mortality rate in a given disease increases rapidly as a result of SARS-CoV-2. The mortality rate among those over 80 was 14.8 percent at the time of the survey.

the geral mortality rate in each year over 60,61,62,...... years related to average male/female life expectancy !
The average percentage of chance/risc for 80 and over years old people ?

Versicherungsmathematik : STERBETAFEL + GESETZ DER WAHRSCHEINLICHKEIT

Actuarial mathematics: DEATH TABLE + LAW OF LIKELIHOOD


for Germany : https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Bevoelkerungsstand/Glossar/sterbetafel.htm (https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Bevoelkerungsstand/Glossar/sterbetafel.html)


https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Sterbefaelle-Lebenserwartung/_inhalt.html (https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Sterbefaelle-Lebenserwartung/_inhalt.html)




                                                                           arithmetical truth :


https://www-genesis.destatis.de/genesis/online?sequenz=tabelleErgebnis&selectionname=12621-0001&sachmerkmal=GES&sachschluessel=GESM (https://www-genesis.destatis.de/genesis/online?sequenz=tabelleErgebnis&selectionname=12621-0001&sachmerkmal=GES&sachschluessel=GESM)


over 50 years age  the geral mortality rate is higher than the average mortality rate of influenza/flue/grippe waves over the seasons !



Now we take the above sentence,only China related and the SARS-Corona virus related  :

".... The mortality rate among those over 80 was 14,8 percent at the time of the survey. ....."

Now we take the Germany DEATH TABLE over 80 and accumulate ages and percentages and death risc/change  :
80 years     5,64%
81 years     6,45%
........
88 years     14,87 %
............

From CHAOS to DE FINIS

Dear peoples,less worry and less hurry ! Gevatter TOD comes to all of us,earlier or later !

 


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fchancen-und-risiken-der-digitalisierung-die-einkommensschere-wird-weiter-auseinandergehen%2F21875606-2.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fchancen-und-risiken-der-digitalisierung-die-einkommensschere-wird-weiter-auseinandergehen%2F21875606-2.html)


Various studies then also predict that between twelve and more than 40 percent of jobs in Germany could be lost in the next two decades alone, net of new jobs being created.

We have a global oversized economy, 1/3 over-consume capacity easily to diminuate !


https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21643810/5172538585-w1280-h960/RTS366NU.jpg (https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21643810/5172538585-w1280-h960/RTS366NU.jpg)



Individuals traffic free cities !



https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs4357506/7782537457-w1280-h960/autobahn.jpg (https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs4357506/7782537457-w1280-h960/autobahn.jpg)


Priorities : usefull to useless



Enforced economy change velocity from two decades to several months :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpanorama%2FEinschraenkung-wird-mehrere-Monate-dauern-article21647966.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpanorama%2FEinschraenkung-wird-mehrere-Monate-dauern-article21647966.html)


                                                 restriction will last "several months"




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FDas-ist-wie-im-Krieg-article21647282.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FDas-ist-wie-im-Krieg-article21647282.html)


1929 and 1987 : die auf Goldstandart basierende 1920+ Wirtschaft global hatte auf WW1 Reparationszahlungen des DEUTSCHEN REICHS sich "angelehnt" und Kredite aufgenommen bis dann die fuer diese Zahlungen zustaendige DANAT-Bank Liquiditaets-"sudden death" anmeldete mit folgender globaler Kettenreaktion


1987 die auf Hypotheken-Kredite basierte japanische Wirtschaft musste aufgrund Einfuehrung einer 0,5% Immobiliensteuer sich refinanzieren und Auslandsvermoegen repatriieren,Geldschwund insbesonders durch NIKKEI-Crash : verstaerkt durch Future-Handel ! Nomura-Desaster !




2020 : die F.E.D. und EZB sind Geld-/Vermoegens-arm,aber verfuegen ueber virtuelle-kaum gesicherte- Finanzierungs-"Instrumente".
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2020, 03:46:30 PM
FIFA will pausing ? Okay,let us do a F.I.V(irology).A.-championship :


Influenza-Virus/Fluvid-19                   against                    Corona-virus/Covid-19


2019/2020 season parameter:


global,continental,national,regional


female,male


young <50 years ,old > 50 years


infected cases


death rate




the virologist with the best diagnosis will get the WHO-Dr.med. Josef Mengele Gedaechtnis-Award
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 17, 2020, 04:32:52 PM
Lanca These things bring some people closer together and others ....[who may not be affected so much ??]
we come into this world with an empty Gut [no Biome ] and very little personal defense [shared at first from Momma

and then we grow ....
most healthy humans are slaughtering the corona with factory equipment [immune system]..
where  103 year old Chinese woman recent corona survivor "no big deal"
and then there are persons quite young on life support in NYC area [not published in news...lived too bold and abusive with bodies ...Vaping etc etc ??

strange times... but I believe we come out the other side ...ehrr "Woke" ??
thanks for all the info
Chet K




Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2020, 05:15:13 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fvirologe-hendrik-streeck-ueber-corona-neue-symptome-entdeckt-16681450.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fvirologe-hendrik-streeck-ueber-corona-neue-symptome-entdeckt-16681450.html)

Self-teste-kit : CAUTION !


Does the rapid test react to possible antibodies in the blood?
I agree. Unfortunately, the sensitivity is only 33 percent, with a relatively good specificity of 93 percent. That is, if the test turns out, Covid-19 is detected, but if it doesn't turn out, the subject may still be infected. So the rapid test does not recognize two thirds of the sufferers.


How do you explain the low death rate in Germany compared to Italy, for example?


I'm not surprised at all. Because in Italy only the very difficult symptomatic cases were tested. The current study from Shenzhen, for example, also found that children infect the pathogen as often as adults, but they develop only mild or no symptoms. If one follows the study and assumes that 91 percent of Covid-19 only experience mild or moderate symptoms, the Italians initially focused only on the remaining nine percent. In addition, the dead are also subsequently tested on Sars-CoV-2. In China, too, the number of deaths rose sharply at the beginning, but not the number of infections, because one also concentrated there on the dead. Now it's the other way around because there is a lot more testing in China.




 history and numbers :


"Spanish flu" 1918-1920 global pandemie mortality rate ? Related habitants : 1%-2%       Related infection cases : ?


 1,65 Mrd./Billions global habitants : ?


The mortality rate ratio is :  infected/death rate  ? Infected habitants number not existant !

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/&usg=ALkJrhgegxIDUehIMsFrqZL2_tAir7MTNA (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/&usg=ALkJrhgegxIDUehIMsFrqZL2_tAir7MTNA)


FLU PANDEMIC (1918)


Death Toll: 20 -50 million
Cause: influenza
Between 1918 and 1920 a disturbingly deadly outbreak of influenza tore across the globe, infecting over a third of the world's population and ending the lives of 20 - 50 million people. Of the 500 million people infected in the 1918 pandemic, the mortality rate was estimated at 10% to 20%, with up to 25 million deaths in the first 25 weeks alone. What separated the 1918 flu pandemic from other influenza outbreaks was the victims; where influenza had always previously only killed juveniles and the elderly or already weakened patients, it had begun striking down hardy and completely healthy young adults, while leaving children and those with weaker immune systems still alive.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html)
 It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291398/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291398/)
While data bearing on influenza virus human cell adaptation (e.g., receptor binding) are beginning to be understood at the molecular level, the basis for viral adaptation to efficient human-to-human spread, the chief prerequisite for pandemic emergence, is unknown for any influenza virus. The 1918 virus acquired this trait, but we do not know how, and we currently have no way of knowing whether H5N1 viruses are now in a parallel process of acquiring human-to-human transmissibility. Despite an explosion of data on the 1918 virus during the past decade, we are not much closer to understanding pandemic emergence in 2006 than we were in understanding the risk of H1N1 "swine flu" emergence in 1976.

Even with modern antiviral and antibacterial drugs, vaccines, and prevention knowledge, the return of a pandemic virus equivalent in pathogenicity to the virus of 1918 would likely kill >100 million people worldwide. A pandemic virus with the (alleged) pathogenic potential of some recent H5N1 outbreaks could cause substantially more deaths.




20 Mio. deaths /500 Mio. infected = 2,5%
50 Mio. deaths/ 500 Mio. infected = 10%


actually flu wave in U.S.A, :             7,3%

Pneumonia and Influenza (P&I) Mortality Surveillance (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm#anchor_1539281356004)[/font]Based on National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) mortality surveillance data available on March 12, 2020, 7.1% of the deaths occurring during the week ending February 29, 2020 (week 9) were due to P&I. This percentage is below the epidemic threshold of 7.3% for week 9.

Less geral age related mortality rate ?




 Less post-WW1 war hunger deaths ?



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpanische_Grippe (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpanische_Grippe)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.ht (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm)m






https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aok-bv.de%2Fpresse%2Fdpa-ticker%2Findex_22701.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aok-bv.de%2Fpresse%2Fdpa-ticker%2Findex_22701.html)

The extraordinarily strong flu wave 2017/18 has cost an estimated 25 100 lives in Germany.
That was the highest number of deaths in the past 30 years, said the President of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Lothar Wieler, on Monday with a view to current evaluations of his facility.There are also seasonal waves with a few hundred deaths.







                          (  A.)   I.D.S =               (Anti-)  Immun Defense System


we come into this world with an empty Gut [no Biome ] and very little personal defense [shared at first from Momma

as babies we are all ever "tactical potential full with different strong infectious kinds of bacillus/virus for B-wars " and without I.D.S. and immunization happens through vaccination !

Mammamal milk is also important !




and patience :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FCorona-Krise-koennte-zwei-Jahre-dauern-article21647563.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FCorona-Krise-koennte-zwei-Jahre-dauern-article21647563.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: DENA on March 17, 2020, 07:56:26 PM
Hi,

does anyone have idea about following link,
as it says ; SARS CoV has been manipulated ,re-synthetic and re-derived in 2015 ?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26552008

WR
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2020, 08:05:19 PM
not " SARS CoV has been manipulated ,re-synthetic and re-derived in 2015 ? "


 but the SARS potential studied !




We have SARS stam 1 and actually in pandemic evolution SARS-2


Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: DENA on March 17, 2020, 09:15:22 PM
not just studied ,no things are not as easy it looks ,
I still can not believe , the they knew/found a wild type virus which is infecting lungs! and circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat just 5 yrs back,
and facing the risk which was predicted as it says
will realize , who's benefiting from this Bio-war , sure will hear name of mega pharma corporation soon

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2020, 09:22:01 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nlga.niedersachsen.de%2Fstartseite%2Finfektionsschutz%2Fkrankheitserreger_krankheiten%2Fsars%2Fsars-19308.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nlga.niedersachsen.de%2Fstartseite%2Finfektionsschutz%2Fkrankheitserreger_krankheiten%2Fsars%2Fsars-19308.html)


From the end of November 2002 - initially unnoticed by the world public in a southern Chinese province - there was a frequent occurrence of atypical pneumonia of unclear origin, often with a fatal outcome. An hitherto unknown infectious disease initially spread to Vietnam and Hong Kong via southern China. It was noticed by the world at large in February 2003 and has since been known as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS). From February 2003, the disease spread rapidly worldwide. During the epidemic from November 2002 to July 2003, more than 8,000 people in around 30 countries on 6 continents fell ill; 744 of the sick died. The most affected countries or regions were China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Hanoi in Vietnam and Toronto in Canada.
An international network of clinicians and virologists compiled by the WHO examined the causes of the disease. On April 16, 2003, the WHO announced that the pathogen of SARS is a new virus from the family of coronaviruses (for more information, see Diagnostics at the NLGA).




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSARS-Pandemie_2002%2F2003%23Ursachen (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSARS-Pandemie_2002%2F2003%23Ursachen)




Causes


The WHO sees the causes of the rapid spread of the initial epidemic and later pandemic in the very dense population of Guangzhou (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou&usg=ALkJrhi2_HCJFlc0-S_Naz5eKOUHTMg7EA) and the surrounding Pearl River Delta (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perlfluss&usg=ALkJrhiKST1REUNP0WhgF6FlSGbUaZLBeg) . In the region, numerous wild animals and exotic animals are enjoyed as food, which is why it is very popular with tourists with its numerous specialty restaurants. In animal farms, animal markets and restaurants, residents live, work and eat in close proximity to animals. The animals are kept in cages, sold and slaughtered in front of everyone. The counters where raw meat and slaughtered animals are sold are often only a few meters away from the workers' eating places. According to the WHO, these conditions - overpopulated and unsanitary - are a breeding ground for the spread of an infection. It is now assumed that SARS was transmitted from the larval roller (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larvenroller&usg=ALkJrhint2Co2PLT6EZEYmF_1BqTP2Sc-w) .



Larval roller and SARS


In parts of China, larval rollers are hunted and eaten for their meat. According to some virologists, this caused the SARS virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS&usg=ALkJrhjO92qm2L-HVyRY1C_PHWdRSx_dUg) to be transmitted to humans for the first time. In May 2003 the virus was isolated from several larval rollers.
The possibility remains that larval rollers were not the origin of the virus, but instead received it from other, as yet unknown animals.
The press occasionally read that civet cats were (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zibetkatzen&usg=ALkJrhilqkVpjToDpJpC8KlT4QVX0moa6Q) the transmitters of the SARS virus. This was caused by an incorrect translation of the English term for larval roller, "palm civet".




https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-sars-bats-animals-to-humans-2020-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-sars-bats-animals-to-humans-2020-1)
The Wuhan coronavirus is also thought to have originated in bats, which may have passed the disease to one of a few potential intermediary species, which then passed it to humans.
Right now, pigs, civets (https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-genome-close-to-sars-originated-in-bats-2020-2), and pangolins (https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-pangolins-intermediary-host-2020-2) are thought to be the most likely potential intermediary hosts.






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat-borne_virus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat-borne_virus)


                                     tick
Infected by https://www.zecken.de/de/sind-zecken-gefaehrlich-welche-krankheitserreger-koennen-sie-uebertragen (https://www.zecken.de/de/sind-zecken-gefaehrlich-welche-krankheitserreger-koennen-sie-uebertragen) ?




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fwissen%2Fumwelt%2F2018-03%2Ffledermaeuse-angst-viren-erreger-artensterben (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fwissen%2Fumwelt%2F2018-03%2Ffledermaeuse-angst-viren-erreger-artensterben)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 18, 2020, 11:49:33 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/angela-merkel-most-people-will-get-the-coronavirus.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/angela-merkel-most-people-will-get-the-coronavirus.html)




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpanorama%2FRKI-Zehn-Millionen-Infizierte-in-drei-Monaten-article21650546.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpanorama%2FRKI-Zehn-Millionen-Infizierte-in-drei-Monaten-article21650546.html)



becoming the population immune .by Corona- infection and I.D.S.-reaction and/or later vaccination ( vaccination is ever "controled infection") , is not a time relevance


time is relevant to SARS-cases/hospital beds capacity ratio and emergency equipment,not meaning "quarantaene", but clinical intensive care   !




                                                     comparison :


https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/ (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/)     1437 000 000 habitants




https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/)                           80 894 infection cases


                    80894 divided 1437000000


                               1% = 14 370 000 habitants
       
                            0,1% =   1 437 000 habitants


                           0,01% =    143 700  habitants

not 70%,not 60%,not 10%,not 5% ; but less 0,01 % infection/habitants quote by SARS-Corona

 clearly specific higher in the province Hubei ( 59 mio. habitants)
 with the greatest city Wuhan (11 mio. habitants)


with similar numbers in Europe/Italy  province Lombardei/city Milano

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.salzburg24.at%2Fnews%2Fwelt%2Fitalien-in-corona-quarantaene-lombardei-hat-kaum-plaetze-auf-intensivstationen-84996850 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.salzburg24.at%2Fnews%2Fwelt%2Fitalien-in-corona-quarantaene-lombardei-hat-kaum-plaetze-auf-intensivstationen-84996850)


In Lombardy, the region most affected by the Coronavirus epidemic in Italy, the death toll rose to 1,640, 220 more than on Monday.The number of infected was now 16,220.
There were 879 people in intensive care in Lombardy, 57 more than the previous day.Several patients from Lombardy were admitted to hospitals in the neighboring regions.


https://citypopulation.de/de/italy/admin/03__lombardia/ (https://citypopulation.de/de/italy/admin/03__lombardia/)









F.I.V.A. -SARS-Corona / Influenza

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.varesenews.it%2F2020%2F02%2Fquasi-800-000-italiani-linfluenza-lombardia-2123%2F897993%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.varesenews.it%2F2020%2F02%2Fquasi-800-000-italiani-linfluenza-lombardia-2123%2F897993%2F)

https://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich/oesterreich-aktuell-37-coronavirus-und-129000-influenza-infektionen/400772436 (https://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich/oesterreich-aktuell-37-coronavirus-und-129000-influenza-infektionen/400772436)


Last year, there were a total of 145,000 influenza cases at the end of the season, while in 2017/18 there was a strong wave with around 440,000 cases.
That has to do with the fact that the Influenza circulate various viruses seasonally and trigger stronger and sometimes weaker disease rates.


The rate of fatal influenza diseases in Austria is for the time being significantly lower than in previous years. There are currently 639 people at the Flu died. In 2019 there were still 1,400 dead, in 2018 even 2,900.



https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/austria-population/ (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/austria-population/)      https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/germany-population/ (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/germany-population/)


440 000 flu infection cases in Austria 2017/2018 means for Germany -factor 9-   4 000 000 infection cases ! And 2900 deaths x 9 : over 25000 deaths by flu-SARS  !

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronakrise-epidemiologen-rechnen-mit-monatelangen-einschraenkungen-a-a7743f7f-83e3-44fd-91b0-29f645130207 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronakrise-epidemiologen-rechnen-mit-monatelangen-einschraenkungen-a-a7743f7f-83e3-44fd-91b0-29f645130207)


there in about british epidemologists their simulation for worst case ( uncontroled and without social distance) of the Corona-Virus-epidemie (a pandemie defines by much higher lethal quote ) :


GB up to 510000 deaths and U.S.A. 2,2 millions = under 1% from the population ,controled half the value




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FDas-fliegt-euch-um-die-Ohren-article21650640.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FDas-fliegt-euch-um-die-Ohren-article21650640.html)



But the scientist also calculates medium-term models.The most recent two-week schedule for Germany is based on the RKI value of March 12.That was around 2300 cases.At that time, some were still discussing whether it was really necessary to cancel Bundesliga matches.Health Minister Jens Spahn made a recommendation not to hold events with more than 1000 participants, closed schools were the exception.Based on the daily value of March 12 and with little drastic measures to date, the statistician ended up with 350,000 Covid 19 sufferers in his model for March 26, two weeks later. "It flies around your ears," Falk says on the phone.


                                                                               9 days ! For re-/action organization !




why : Hong Kong : 7 000 000 habitants and only 167 infected SARS-Corona infected people ? And 4 deaths !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FHongkong-fuerchtet-zweite-Corona-Welle-article21650605.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FHongkong-fuerchtet-zweite-Corona-Welle-article21650605.html)










https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Fversicherer-muenchener-rueck-macht-sich-mehr-sorgen-um-kapitalanlagen%2F25656862.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Fversicherer-muenchener-rueck-macht-sich-mehr-sorgen-um-kapitalanlagen%2F25656862.html)


            global  worst case " Corona-Pandemie" life losts and health costs  value :


 In life and health insurance, the pandemic could cost the world market leader in reinsurance at worst 1.4 billion euros, as Munich Re reiterated.
Board member Torsten Jeworrek recently said that this sum would only result in hundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide.So far, almost 8000 people worldwide have died from the virus.
                                     
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 18, 2020, 05:19:29 PM
Szo0 what does 5G   which is 60Ghz do to the air you breayh?

it's all planned deliberate gat over it!
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 18, 2020, 09:02:27 PM
www.globalresearch.ca (http://www.globalresearch.ca)  ?  ::)
Yes,ID2020 has advantages,but also some disadvantages !







https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/cuban-drug-could-save-thousands-lives-coronavirus-pandemic (https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/cuban-drug-could-save-thousands-lives-coronavirus-pandemic)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferon_alfa-2b (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferon_alfa-2b)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Weissmann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Weissmann)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=charles+weissmann&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=charles+weissmann&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 19, 2020, 12:10:13 AM
Yeah, Just think of the havoce a HP IMP generator could cause
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 19, 2020, 12:11:20 AM
Yeah, Just think of the havoce a HP IMP generator could cause
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2020, 12:28:18 PM
will a Anti-Corona-Virus-vaccination change something ? 


Epidemologic nothing !


https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-warum-gibt-es-in-italien-so-viele-faelle-a-a9b30229-9e94-4297-aa8c-ffd31c80b428 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-warum-gibt-es-in-italien-so-viele-faelle-a-a9b30229-9e94-4297-aa8c-ffd31c80b428)


In order to avoid misunderstandings and panic, first a note: Experts assume that there are many undetected infected people. In fact, the global death rate could be well below the numbers above. Virologists estimate an actual value of 0.7 percent.




We have yearly Anti-Influenza Virus-/Flu-vaccinations and this helps to compare before/after situations !

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm)

 However, CDC has estimated the burden of flu since 2010 using a mathematical model that is based on data collected through the U.S. Influenza Surveillance System (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm), a network that covers approximately 8.5% of the U.S. population (~27 million people).



                                             ESTIMATION-SCIENCE


Virology,Epidemiology,Demography,Analytics,Statistics :


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterbetafel (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterbetafel)


geral rates versus specific rates


geral age class mortality rate and the "exponential function" https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/b3/Sterbetafel.svg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/b/b3/Sterbetafel.svg)

selective age-group numbers:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mz-web.de%2Fpanorama%2Ferfahrungen-aus-italien-so-hoch-ist-das-durchschnittsalter-bei-corona-todesfaellen-36436620 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mz-web.de%2Fpanorama%2Ferfahrungen-aus-italien-so-hoch-ist-das-durchschnittsalter-bei-corona-todesfaellen-36436620)

In Italy, the average age of those who died as a result of a coronavirus infection was 79.5 years.


Now generalization : In Italy,the average age of those who died was 79,5 years


In total, Italy reported 2978 deaths from the novel corona virus by Wednesday.
According to ISS statistics,



 707 of the people who died in Italy from coronavirus infections were between 70 and 79 years old,

 852 between 80 and 89 years old.

198 were older than 90.

Only 17 of those who died from the new coronavirus, Covid-19, died younger than 50, the ISS said.


how many 70-79 years old italians,between 80 and 89 and older than 90 years  old italians dies during the year in geral ,typical mortality profile ?



Five of these people were under 40.  The institute explained that it was exclusively male patients between the ages of 31 and 39 years with severe previous illnesses.


                                                   


                                                                                           SIMPLE AND EASY DEMOGRAPHY MODELL TRUTH


we have elsewhere


a. a population  b.a population demography (age structure ) c. habitants with cronicle diseases  d. seasonal epidemies/pandemies e. infected habitants






There will never exist an Anti-age- and Anti-death-vaccination !


Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: rstergar on March 19, 2020, 03:06:27 PM
maybe some usefull informations from this? https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/de (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/de)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2020, 06:36:11 PM

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FUSA-lassen-Malaria-Mittel-gegen-Covid-19-zu-article21655432.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FUSA-lassen-Malaria-Mittel-gegen-Covid-19-zu-article21655432.html)



From the IG-Farben/Bayer pre-WW2 (1934) research : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Andersag (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Andersag)





However, its benefits as a malaria remedy were only discovered by the United States during World War II and were widely used after the war.At Bayer, this use was discontinued due to suspected toxicity, and sontochin (the methylated form of chloroquine) was developed instead.



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0)

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/184/6/770/846627 (https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/184/6/770/846627)


  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8085457_Low_cost_anti-retroviral_options_Chloroquine_based_ARV_regimen_combined_with_hydroxyurea_and_lamivudine_A_new_economical_triple_therapy (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8085457_Low_cost_anti-retroviral_options_Chloroquine_based_ARV_regimen_combined_with_hydroxyurea_and_lamivudine_A_new_economical_triple_therapy)


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=hans+andersag&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=hans+andersag&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)




https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/chloroquine (https://www.drugs.com/price-guide/chloroquine)  :o  The cost for chloroquine oral tablet 250 mg is around $331 for a supply of 50 tablets, depending on the pharmacy you visit.


https://www.pharmacychecker.com/chloroquine+phosphate/#! (https://www.pharmacychecker.com/chloroquine+phosphate/#!)           ::)        or $0,30 per pill = 15 US$ for 50 pills/tablets a 250 mg




$0,1 per pill fob factory product
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 19, 2020, 09:06:00 PM
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-administration-drove-him-back-to-china-where-he-invented-a-fast-coronavirus-test
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2020, 10:29:05 PM
people dies


people dies with infection


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison)




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2)


people dies : cause infection ?

                                                OFFICIAL ROBERT-KOCH-INSTITUTE ( RKI ) STATEMENT :

In addition,          death with an influenza infection does not automatically mean that influenza was the cause of death.


The RKI writes: “The decision on whether a case is reported as having died as a result of an influenza disease is made by the health authorities on the basis of the information available to them.
This can be assessments of the supervising doctors of the case or information on the death certificate, for example. "

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/405363/umfrage/influenza-assoziierte-uebersterblichkeit-exzess-mortalitaet-in-deutschland/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/405363/umfrage/influenza-assoziierte-uebersterblichkeit-exzess-mortalitaet-in-deutschland/)


Nobody knows it,but number-modelling and hysterical behaviour is "en vogue" !





Obduction and Autopsie quote in the different national systems ? Germany <10% in geral !  :P


Corona-case ? call the coroner ! ::) 


                                death with a Corona-virus infection does not automatically mean that Corona was the cause of death


                                we know that age is a strong death cause



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FArzte-entscheiden-ueber-Leben-und-Tod-article21655810.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FArzte-entscheiden-ueber-Leben-und-Tod-article21655810.html)


The fight against the corona plague is taking a dramatic course in Spain. In a two-and-a-half-minute voice message shared on social media, a doctor from Madrid describes the "brutal" circumstances for doctors, nurses and patients: "The situation in Madrid is absolutely dramatic. There is not enough material, there is not enough space, there are not enough ventilators. " Doctors are in a predicament to have to decide "who lives and who dies".

In the crowded hospitals in the capital city of Madrid, which are particularly affected by the spread of the virus, severely ill patients would have their ventilators removed. If you are over 65 years old, mechanical oxygenation would be denied if a younger patient also needed ventilation. It had happened that nurses had to hold the hands of dying people after the life-sustaining measure had to be canceled. Family members are prohibited from entering hospitals.



( I did my civil service in an hospital and have had also human cadaver in front of me;but in the end 80` there has been less stress,excluding the HIV-hystery  )


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2F01-20-Kalifornien-rechnet-mit-25-Millionen-Infektionen--article21626512.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2F01-20-Kalifornien-rechnet-mit-25-Millionen-Infektionen--article21626512.html)

in 8 weeks 60% of all habitants Corona-contaminated : 25 mio infections ?




in some weeks in Wuhan(11 mio habitants) and the province Hubei (59 mio habitants) they had over 81 000 infections total :    < 1 percent of all habitants infected




probably the californian gouvernor misunderstand " population virus immunization" and "population infection rate"




https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/ (https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/)   It infected 28% of all Americans


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-16/los-angeles-spanish-flu-coronavirus (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-16/los-angeles-spanish-flu-coronavirus)


Archives at UCLA, the Huntington Library and the City of Los Angeles capture the little-remembered history of how Los Angeles and other cities across the Southland weathered the deadly 1918 Spanish flu, which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide and over 700,000 in the United States.


http://demographia.com/db-uspop1900.htm (http://demographia.com/db-uspop1900.htm)             U.S.A. habitants          1918      103,208,000





                                                                                      700 000 / 103 208 000 =   


                                                               0,68 %     La Grippe = 1918 Spanish Flu
                                                                mortality rate in the U.S.A. related all habitants,
                                                               2,43% mortality rate  related the infected habitants ( 28% )
                                                               Without real death cause verification : old,hunger, other diseases

   So we come to normal epidemic numbers which we see over the seasonal flu waves !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 20, 2020, 11:28:50 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2)


so now the last statement about "fuzzy logic statistics" :


Version A :     in 2017/18 with 1,674 deaths.




 and 182000 official infection cases = 1674/182000 = < 1%


Version B : According to estimates by the RKI, around 25,000 people died of flu in 2017/18.




25000 /182000 = > 13,7 %




The two versions are based by real official numbers by the same RK- institution !


It is like to read
 https://www.derwesten.de/panorama/vermischtes/coronavirus-deutschland-italien-china-eu-corona-news-covid-19-symptome-schulen-kitas-aktuell-impfstoff-faelle-tote-infizierte-ausgangssperre-news-id228686513.html (https://www.derwesten.de/panorama/vermischtes/coronavirus-deutschland-italien-china-eu-corona-news-covid-19-symptome-schulen-kitas-aktuell-impfstoff-faelle-tote-infizierte-ausgangssperre-news-id228686513.html)


10000 deaths 20,03,2020 with Corona-virus contamination  or " official RKI estimation-factor 15" including = 150000 estimated deaths with Corona-virus contamination


ten thousand or one hundred fifthy thousands : only numbers by estimation !
                                                       
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: arhitrade on March 20, 2020, 03:53:13 PM
Individual ionizer - http://gorchilin.com/articles/scheme/individual_ionizer?lang=en (http://gorchilin.com/articles/scheme/individual_ionizer?lang=en)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 20, 2020, 04:36:55 PM
Quote  ..."Zinc Acetate + Hydroxychloroquine sulfate + Azithromycin looks like a 100% cure according to the latest french trial." end Quote
HydroxyChlouroquine is rheumatoid arthritis med ...Zinc seems effective as with cold slowing meds recent to market
apparently inhibits growth cycle ...inhaled would seem more appropriate for treatment of respiratory system...However is Toxic [Grumage got sick from overdosing when melting his door knobs in smelter for a build]
and too much Zinc sniffing will diminish  your sniffers ability to smell ...forever !

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 20, 2020, 05:51:21 PM
ramset :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybzLpOypSDs) 8:42


Zinc-use : priority ?


What is more important ?


What is " more future" relevant ?


Score : elders health ?


Score: autonomous energy delivery !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 20, 2020, 09:07:52 PM
Not the virus only is the cause but the combination : https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/coronavirus-vertreibt-smog-a-a9ad3f99-77ae-4629-90e4-79d334f33704 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/coronavirus-vertreibt-smog-a-a9ad3f99-77ae-4629-90e4-79d334f33704)


                                                                                                                          atypical pneumonia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atypical_pneumonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atypical_pneumonia)


https://aqicn.org/map/italy/lombardia/bergamo-via-meucci/de/ (https://aqicn.org/map/italy/lombardia/bergamo-via-meucci/de/)




Not only Corona-virus tests,but also legionellen , amoeben, Kokken, et cet        .....


                                                   
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/rechtsmedizin-defizite-bei-leichenschau-und-obduktion.676.de.html?dram:article_id=338753 (https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/rechtsmedizin-defizite-bei-leichenschau-und-obduktion.676.de.html?dram:article_id=338753)

"In Germany there are approximately 17,000 to 18,000 autopsies in accordance with Section 87 of the Code of Criminal Procedure for 820,000 deaths, which are ordered by a district judge at the request of the public prosecutor. That is about two percent of the deceased. This is significantly lower than in the Scandinavian countries or the former Eastern Bloc countries. Even Britain and Wales with 520,000 deaths have an autopsy rate of around 100,000 cases a year. ”


Sweden : 37%   =        63% "Unschaerfe"                             Germany : 2,2%  =   97,8% "Unschaerfe"




The death cause is in Germany relatively irrelevant ( and hidden : Multiresistente Keime-Infektion durch Krankenhaeuser,Aerztefehler,Medikamentenvergiftung ,........) !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: AlienGrey on March 20, 2020, 11:55:40 PM
Covid 19 does any one know it's resonant frequency  or how we can actuly find out  or a connection that does ?


https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2020, 12:35:41 AM
Covid 19 does any one know it's resonant frequency  or how we can actuly find out  or a connection that does ?


https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html (https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html)


                             not conventional science !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Foeigt-wien.at%2Ffrequenztherapie-nach-dr-rife%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Foeigt-wien.at%2Ffrequenztherapie-nach-dr-rife%2F)

728 Hz : one of the most important anti-inflammatory Rife frequencies that Rife has assigned to the staphylococci.Staphylococci are extremely common, often multi-resistant, pathogens that produce all types of purulent infections, such as pneumonia, sinus infection or endocarditis, and infect wounds.


787 Hz: one of the most important anti-inflammatory rife frequencies.


880 Hz : one of the most important anti-inflammatory Rife frequencies that Rife has assigned to the streptococci. Streptococci cause various infectious diseases, such as scarlet fever, tonsillitis, fever, erysipelas, rheumatic fever, endocarditis, glomerulonephritis, pneumonia, meningitis, pharyngitis, lymphadenitis and wound infections.Streptococcus pneumoniae causes most inflammation of the respiratory tract.





https://morgenisnu.nl/product_files/ebook-mauermann-2017.pdf (https://morgenisnu.nl/product_files/ebook-mauermann-2017.pdf)       page 15                     Rife  virus Eigenfrequenz                    versus                Clarke 20-40 KHz broad band
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2020, 11:13:10 AM
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/111226/Erster-Antikoerpertest-fuer-SARS-CoV-2-vorgestellt (https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/111226/Erster-Antikoerpertest-fuer-SARS-CoV-2-vorgestellt)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fnachrichten%2F111226%2FErster-Antikoerpertest-fuer-SARS-CoV-2-vorgestellt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fnachrichten%2F111226%2FErster-Antikoerpertest-fuer-SARS-CoV-2-vorgestellt)


An important requirement is the development of a reliable antibody test.Ideally, it should recognize antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, but should not show any cross-reaction with the circulating harmless coronaviruses.


 " harmless coronavirus " versus SARS1-Corona virus  versus SARS2-Corona virus


                                               SARS-risc     as  atypical pneumonia-risc      10% of all infected people,mostly geral risc-group cases


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchweres_Akutes_Atemwegssyndrom (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchweres_Akutes_Atemwegssyndrom)


There are no special treatment measures yet.At the time, doctors initially administered the nucleoside analogue (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRTI&usg=ALkJrhjjch9oI5A2uW-ZicFmHGlY3Y4HPA) ribavirin (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribavirin&usg=ALkJrhiz7xhXr-94GCIGMLQwQJy_LzcZxw) , which is also used for hepatitis C (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatitis_C&usg=ALkJrhjR0VZkwXoD2ul3nMvVLLsWuJAdKg) , and cortisone (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortison&usg=ALkJrhhC4LnY2GZjDL_M9dAOVrBGf5dW8Q) as a virostatic (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virostatikum&usg=ALkJrhhAhOcWyXVkmOButQ7gztPVhHEVzw) .Afterwards, those affected usually received a mixture of different antibiotics (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotikum&usg=ALkJrhi-LQdfZlHB1mjkqJ0cLzB8ruhziA) to have the accompanying inflammation of the respiratory tract healed by bacteria, because the additional bacterial infection is what makes pneumonia so dangerous.The RNA sequence of the putative SARS pathogen was later deciphered in Canada, but the development of an effective drug is not yet in sight.Genetic data could be used to develop new diagnostic procedures;but it will take an indefinite amount of time before drugs or vaccines are available.




taking as worst case the chinese province Hubei numbers - air quality(smog),population density observation - and their official tested and approved  infection/habitants ratio =


                                                                 65000/59000000 we get 0,0012 ( untested hidden factor 5-10 = 0,006 - 0,012 )


                                                                  BUT BY VIROLOGIC LOGIC FOR RO=0,99 (REPRODUCTION WAVE END) WE NEED IMMUNIZATION


this means as average - without demography profile comparison !  -   for Lombardei = 13200 cases               Germany = 100 0000 cases


                 
                                                                  as peak infection rate




What neither the health institutions neither the WHO knows : how long a SARS-virus immunization prolongs ?!


https://www.merkur.de/welt/coronavirus-italien-tote-infizierte-vo-suedtirol-ausgangssperre-krise-notstand-covid-19-video-zahlen-leichen-news-zr-13605989.html (https://www.merkur.de/welt/coronavirus-italien-tote-infizierte-vo-suedtirol-ausgangssperre-krise-notstand-covid-19-video-zahlen-leichen-news-zr-13605989.html)



Corona crisis in Italy: scientist has a proposal that is difficult to implement - location completely healed

Update of March 21, 10:56 a.m .:
 A village near Venice quarantined all 3300 inhabitants after the outbreak of the Coronavirus and thus at least temporarily reduced the number of infections in the small community to zero, as the star with reference to the English newspaper Guardian reports. It is the Lombard Vo, which also had the first country-wide death in connection with Covid-19.


As a result, all residents were tested - twice with an interval of nine days. According to the scientists at the University of Padua, there were 89 positive cases in the first round and only six in the second. Since the sick people were quarantined before they showed any symptoms, it was possible to stop the spread of the coronavirus within 14 days.


The researchers speak of a "100 percent cure rate for previously infected people", and no new cases of disease have occurred. What also struck them: When the first patient showed symptoms, three percent of the local residents were already infected - with one exception, however, the clinical picture was asymptomatic.


According to the scientists, one thing is certain: in order to bring the pandemic under control, everyone would have to be tested - regardless of symptoms. This is the only way to calculate a reliable mortality rate. The proposal will probably be difficult to implement nationwide.


Unfortunately, the happy ending in Vo still has an epilogue with a negative impact. In the meantime, according to the Italian agency Ansa, there is again a corona case in the place. Apparently this is due to a change of location of the person or an infection by an asymptomatic person.



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fregionales%2Fnordrhein-westfalen%2FUber-6700-Corona-Infektionen-in-NRW-Deutlicher-Anstieg-article21659410.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fregionales%2Fnordrhein-westfalen%2FUber-6700-Corona-Infektionen-in-NRW-Deutlicher-Anstieg-article21659410.html)


6700 detected/tested cases from 17 9000 000 (2018) country NRW habitants                           0,0003743 %


916   detected/tested cases from 252 651(2016) in the NRW country county Heinsberg             0,0003625 %






compared


22264 detected/tested cases from 10 040 000 (2018) italian province Lombardei                      0,0022175 %


65000 detected/tested cases from 59 000 000 (2018)  chinese province Hubei                          0,0012       %


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FCoronavirus-Epidemie-gewinnt-an-Tempo-article21658702.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FCoronavirus-Epidemie-gewinnt-an-Tempo-article21658702.html)


https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-Epidemie-gewinnt-an-Tempo-article21658702.html (https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Coronavirus-Epidemie-gewinnt-an-Tempo-article21658702.html)


7 April 2020  peak moment as dynamic arithmetical preview for Germany = today 21 March + 3 weeks


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FAusgangssperren-foerdern-haeusliche-Gewalt-article21659309.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FAusgangssperren-foerdern-haeusliche-Gewalt-article21659309.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-pandemie-warum-sterben-in-italien-so-viele-16688344.html (https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-pandemie-warum-sterben-in-italien-so-viele-16688344.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fcorona-pandemie-warum-sterben-in-italien-so-viele-16688344.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fcorona-pandemie-warum-sterben-in-italien-so-viele-16688344.html)



99 percent of deaths with pre-existing conditions



According to a survey by the Italian National Health Service ( ISS (https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wissen/thema/iss) ), published on Tuesday,


based on the investigation of 2,000 deaths, more than 99 percent of those who died had one or more pre-existing conditions. Only three people - that is 0.8 percent of those examined - had no previous illnesses known before being infected with the coronavirus. 48.5 percent of the fatalities suffered from three previous illnesses, 25.6 percent had two illnesses and 25.1 percent a previous illness. Hypertension was found in more than three quarters of the examined. A good third had been diagnosed with diabetes and a further third had heart disease.








Only   one % = 1 %   or by  3 death cases 0,15 %  from all these 2000 death cases are the " unknown risc rate " ! The first survey with workable numbers !





Edit: by my calculation 3 from 2000 are not 0,8% but I call this "italian virologic/epidemologic arithmetics" ::) ;D   2000 =100 %  20 = 1 %   2 = 0,1 % ergo 3 = 0,15 %

                                        1997/2000 = 99,85     %
                                        3      /2000 =  0,15  %             


                                        ergo 99.85% with pre-existing conditions        https://medlineplus.gov/lungdiseases.html (https://medlineplus.gov/lungdiseases.html)    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertension (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertension)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 21, 2020, 09:10:42 PM
by 99,85% safe result it will be time to ask about :


geral hospital and old people`s home microbiologic hygiene condition and private households ( 1 or 2 or 3 generations)


MRSA
Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus is a resistant type of bacteria that has been growing since the spread of antibiotics in the 1960s. It is resistant to all so-called beta-lactam antibiotics, that is, to antibiotics that are based on penicillin in their structure. As a rule, MRSA bacteria are also resistant to other antibiotics, i.e. multi-resistant. Therefore, some use the abbreviation MRSA for multi-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.

and

https://www.zeit.de/2005/17/M-MRSA (https://www.zeit.de/2005/17/M-MRSA)

The problem has been known for a long time: Staphylococcus aureus has had a very bad reputation for decades as one of the main causes of nosocomial infections, i.e. infections acquired in hospitals. The bacteria can be found in many healthy people as a harmless parasite on the skin and nose. It cannot harm an intact immune system.




https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2018-11/antibiotika-europa-gesundheit-krankenhaus-multiresistente-keime-krankenhaeuser-hygiene (https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2018-11/antibiotika-europa-gesundheit-krankenhaus-multiresistente-keime-krankenhaeuser-hygiene)



Italy is most affected


  In Italy, for example, there were almost 50 times as many cases of people with multi-resistant germs as in Iceland. The rates in Greece, Romania and Portugal are also strikingly high. Scandinavia, Estonia and the Netherlands, on the other hand, had comparatively low case numbers. Germany is in the lower midfield. Although there are almost ten times as many cases per 100,000 inhabitants in Germany as in Iceland - the number of cases in Italy is five times as high as in Germany. Children under the age of one are particularly affected by the multi-resistant germs.


Sepsis,SIRS-syndrom




vaccination quote from the age-class over 60 years in Europe against influenza -broad band effect - as Corona-virus symptoms prophylaxe ?


Comparison from vaccinated and not vaccinated infected people !


Nations comparison !

https://www.pharma-fakten.de/news/details/598-ein-manifest-als-lebensretter/ (https://www.pharma-fakten.de/news/details/598-ein-manifest-als-lebensretter/)     
https://www.pharma-fakten.de/fileadmin/user_upload/18042018_Grippe-Manifesto_Text.jpg


When Austria with 8,822 mio habitants did have 2850 influenza-infected deaths and Spain has 46,6 mio habitants this means means by same ratio ; 15050 infected- deaths


               Now the RKI- VIROLOGY DEMOSCOPY  MAGIC . Exzessfaktor 15 x


and we get         


                      225 750 infected deaths for Spain   and     42750 infected deaths for Austria  85% over 60 years age class




https://wien.orf.at/stories/3032045/ (https://wien.orf.at/stories/3032045/)     

Knapp 15 Euro kostet die Grippeimpfung in den Impfstellen der Stadt. Preise in Apotheken oder Honorare von Ärzten können dagegen unterschiedlich ausfallen. Eine kostenlose Grippeimpfung würde die Durchimpfungsrate bei Influenza aber nicht anheben, meint Peter Voitl, Impfreferent der Ärztekammer Wien. „Es ist eine aufwendige Impfung, die jedes Jahr gemacht werden muss und nicht wie Zecken alle fünf Jahre oder andere Impfungen alle zehn Jahre.“

 In der Grippesaison 2017/2018 haben sich nur 6,2 Prozent der Österreicherinnen und Österreicher gegen die Grippe impfen lassen, so eine Sprecherin des Verbands der Impfhersteller.

In der vorigen Grippesaison lag die Durchimpfungsrate bei 8,4 Prozent



The flu shot in the city's vaccination centers costs just under 15 euros. In contrast, prices in pharmacies or doctor's fees can vary. A free flu shot would not increase the vaccination rate for influenza, says Peter Voitl, vaccination officer at the Vienna Medical Association. "It is a complex vaccination that has to be done every year and not like ticks every five years or other vaccinations every ten years."


  In the 2017/2018 flu season, only 6.2 percent of Austrians were vaccinated against the flu, according to a spokeswoman for the association of vaccine manufacturers.


In the previous flu season, the vaccination rate was 8.4 percent



      Immunisierung/Immunization : for what ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: vineet_kiran on March 22, 2020, 04:26:40 AM
@lancaIV

What about Lauric acid?  (coconut oil)
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1138/lauric-acid (https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1138/lauric-acid)
We use coconut oil for cooking in our house.   So far  I have not got any serious viral disease and I have not gone to doctor since last forty years.


Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on March 22, 2020, 08:43:42 AM
Hi everyone,
Many of you may think Pandemic was started by China.
I would like to make matter clear that for the last 400years with interval of 100years there is a Pandemic.4 Pandemic in a row.
The Question i ask is this just a random coincidence or this will be way after each hundred years.Think about it and do check up on it to verify facts. :) Do see attachment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: MasterPlaster on March 22, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
Hi everyone,
Many of you may think Pandemic was started by China.
I would like to make matter clear that for the last 400years with interval of 100years there is a Pandemic.4 Pandemic in a row.
The Question i ask is this just a random coincidence or this will be way after each hundred years.Think about it and do check up on it to verify facts.
Have you heard of gematria? Nothing seems random!Here is a sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-BPHqbn8uc
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: MasterPlaster on March 22, 2020, 10:48:19 AM
Covid 19 does any one know it's resonant frequency  or how we can actuly find out  or a connection that does ?


https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html (https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html)
Have you heard of Rife frequencies?I use a device called Spooky2.
https://www.spooky2.com/

 The frequencies are there.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2020, 10:57:52 AM
@lancaIV

What about Lauric acid?  (coconut oil)
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1138/lauric-acid (https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1138/lauric-acid)
We use coconut oil for cooking in our house.   So far  I have not got any serious viral disease and I have not gone to doctor since last forty years.


I am not virologist ! And I am not part from the health administration ! I work based by numbers and facts and analyse the momentum !


You can ever do things what and which seems normal,but our ambient is sometimes "unfriendly" !


Getting the Corona-virus means not much,but in co-operation with MRSA (Staphylokokke/coccus aureus) and other bacillus you are in danger from the denominated "Superinfection" !




I remember me  the civil service time when I brought the blood probes from the hospital bed rooms to the hospital lab in the hospital subcave(KKH Dachau) ,where these were tested about staphylokokken and streptokokken numbers, not the fund but the fund quantity decides about inflammation and risc rate !

Studying the "human tests included survey" from concentration camps and military lazaretts ,also Robert Koch and Josef Mengele their work and input( both included national "VOLKSHYGIENE" rassism viewpoint) made part.

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2020, 12:36:54 PM
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-setzt-rigoros-auf-Malaria-Medikament-article21660024.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-setzt-rigoros-auf-Malaria-Medikament-article21660024.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FTrump-setzt-rigoros-auf-Malaria-Medikament-article21660024.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FTrump-setzt-rigoros-auf-Malaria-Medikament-article21660024.html)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azithromycin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azithromycin)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAzithromycin (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAzithromycin)


A research group of the pharmaceutical company Pliva (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliva&usg=ALkJrhj9RbHbqeAFBC2ig4Zu4dBc8oCeFQ) in Zagreb (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagreb&usg=ALkJrhitl6YybEWkRV79D3sR7dEZ-WA56Q) in the former Yugoslavia (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugoslawien&usg=ALkJrhhv0I77OMUz87yRTIHPnCdn-OYNuQ) around Slobodan Dokić, Gabrijela Kobrehel, Gorjana Radobolja-Lazarevski and Zrinka Tamburašev discovered azithromycin in 1979/1980.It was patented in 1981 and was available as Sumamed in the area of ​​Central Eastern Socialist Europe from 1988.As early as 1986, a contract was signed with Pfizer (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer&usg=ALkJrhhAvU74s4ErX76O-aMNznyueu_cPg) , which enabled it to launch in 1991 in Western Europe and outside Europe under the trade name Zithromax .




https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Gabrijela+Kobrehel%2C&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Gabrijela+Kobrehel%2C&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)


Azithromycin wirkt etwas schlechter gegen grampositive (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram-F%C3%A4rbung), aber etwas besser gegen gramnegative Bakterien als andere Makrolide (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makrolidantibiotikum)


Azithromycin works a little worse against gram-positive, but a little better against gram-negative bacteria than other macrolides




So each SIRS case  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_inflammatory_response_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemic_inflammatory_response_syndrome) from the SARS-Covid 19 infection then in combination with Cocci/Kokken has to become analyzed


 up to final https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_organ_dysfunction_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_organ_dysfunction_syndrome)




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSekund%25C3%25A4rinfektion (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSekund%25C3%25A4rinfektion)


Up today not  interestant for the society ,partially administrative "tabu" (financial responsibility  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.versicherungen.at%2Faerztehaftpflichtversicherung-rechner%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.versicherungen.at%2Faerztehaftpflichtversicherung-rechner%2F)   hygiene costs), this behaviour saved by ultra-low obduction/autopsy rate and real death cause survey  !


MRSA-/ and other Superinfection deaths per annum in hospitals and old people´s home  : 33000 ? 66000 ? 99000 ?           IMPORTANT ? RESPONSIBILITY ?






From pneumonia to sepsis


It is estimated that over 2.5 million patients in Europe are newly infected with hospital germs every year. Benedikt Zacher from the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) in Berlin and his colleagues are now presenting new figures for Germany: how common are infections we have acquired in hospitals - and how serious are the consequences for those affected?
To find out, the scientists evaluated data from a survey by the National Reference Center on the occurrence of hospital infections.
 They focused on five common diseases that together make up almost 80 percent of infections acquired in hospitals: pneumonia, urinary tract infections, wound infections, Clostridium difficile (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.scinexx.de/news/medizin/resistenter-durchfallerreger-entstand-in-den-usa/&usg=ALkJrhhdqYqbORC9Wby6t6tld6zFJPa4Qw) infections and bloodstream infections.

https://www.scinexx.de/news/medizin/deutschland-bis-zu-20-000-tote-jaehrlich-durch-krankenhauskeime/ (https://www.scinexx.de/news/medizin/deutschland-bis-zu-20-000-tote-jaehrlich-durch-krankenhauskeime/) REAL ?


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scinexx.de%2Fnews%2Fmedizin%2Fdeutschland-bis-zu-20-000-tote-jaehrlich-durch-krankenhauskeime%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scinexx.de%2Fnews%2Fmedizin%2Fdeutschland-bis-zu-20-000-tote-jaehrlich-durch-krankenhauskeime%2F)


                                                  Which EXZESSFAKTOR the RKI use in this case ?


                                                                   death with/out  autopsy case  :  15 x , 25 x, .........



                                                                     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy)


                                                                       EXZESSFAKTOR : Jesus fish-factor       Virology : teleology ( less theology) without real facts


Or see we now the first global multi-resistance superinfection-pandemie ?


With great numbers cause we live in a > 7 500 000 000 habitants world where 1 per mille = > 7 500 000 habitants




It is estimated that over 2.5 million patients in Europe are newly infected with hospital germs every year.


                                                      25 000 000 in 10 years as ( Corona et cet. )-virus bacillus-cluster for SIRS and SARS only in Europe




          THINK ( not ever to becoming) POSITIVE  8) ::) ;) :)

 


btw: my mother got 2007 in hospital MRSA-"injection" and infection (back surgery/intervertebral discs operation) ,they are calling here these bacills "bichos"


She over-lives my father,died 2013


In german wishing "Hals-und Beinbruch ! Dabei: Kopfhoch ! Und wehe danach "nur an Krankenhaus zu denken ! " ;D  SIECHEN=Seuchen-Haus alias Bichos-Bordell


https://www.n-tv.de/sport/der_sport_tag/Der-Sport-Tag-am-Sonntag-den-22-Maerz-2020-article21660058.html (https://www.n-tv.de/sport/der_sport_tag/Der-Sport-Tag-am-Sonntag-den-22-Maerz-2020-article21660058.html)


                                         Are we not all positive ?  # international positive-me too-movement
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 22, 2020, 01:26:10 PM
shared by member Jimboot [ventilator info and other things
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-71FJTmI1Q1kjSDLP0EegMERjg_0kk_7UfaRE4r66Mg/preview?fbclid=IwAR3E_lr-fu7RnbjlrfTgoyIaMfgsMdqGR8DV8R6nMyMSg0ldWGkV9su5Oxg (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-71FJTmI1Q1kjSDLP0EegMERjg_0kk_7UfaRE4r66Mg/preview?fbclid=IwAR3E_lr-fu7RnbjlrfTgoyIaMfgsMdqGR8DV8R6nMyMSg0ldWGkV9su5Oxg)
"small" example from Link  https://www.project-cloth-masks.com/
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2020, 03:06:08 PM
Ihr macht Euch Sorgen um die Alten ?!
Stationsarbeit in den 80':
Nein,dem knapp 80 Jahre altem Patienten darf keine Fluessigkeit ausser der aerztlich verordneten Menge zugeteilt werden !
Von niemanden ! Der Arzt verantwortet 100% fuer dessen Handeln !( Klar,theoretisch ! Eine Kraehe hackt .....)

Die nette Verwandtschaft des Patienten brachte Fluesiges mit und " (ver-)steckte" diese in dessen Obhut !
Nette freundliche Geste ,rechtlich mit " vorsaetzlichem Totschlag"- Hintergedanken !?
Erbvermoegen ?
Sorgen,dass diese zu alt werden vermoegen = lange Wartezeit auf Haus/Hof/Gesinde  ?

Die hohen Altersheimkosten schnellstmoeglichst verringern ?Hohe Operationskosten fuer Hueftbrueche et cer.. ,dann aber bitte die anderen zahlen/verrechnen lassen !?
Individuelle Sozialkosten mit Erbvermoegen 100% begleichen !

3000 und mehr Euros pro Monat Altenheimplaetze,200 und mehr Euros nur die Vollpension-Krankenhaus-Kosten pro Tag !
Eine offene Buchfuehrung damit jeder sieht was er wirklich leistet und was dieser wirklich kostet,gestern-heute-morgen !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2020, 05:20:54 PM



https://www.lungenaerzte-im-netz.de/krankheiten/lungenentzuendung/prognose/ (https://www.lungenaerzte-im-netz.de/krankheiten/lungenentzuendung/prognose/)



forecast


The prognosis of pneumonia depends on various factors. Which pathogen is the causative agent, what the patient's immune system is like, and whether the right therapy has been selected is of crucial importance, for example.


People in old age or with pre-existing diseases such as of the heart or lungs generally have a less favorable prognosis than young or healthy patients.


Pneumonia in patients without risk factors can be treated on an outpatient basis, they have a favorable prognosis. The mortality rate here is less than 2%.


If in patient therapy becomes necessary, the mortality rate is given as 2 to 10%. The information is subject to considerable fluctuations, since hospital admissions are often associated with serious previous illnesses or advanced age, which in itself leads to increased mortality. It is interesting to note that the mortality rate for inpatient pneumococcal pneumonia is particularly high and is still 20% today.


In severe forms of pneumonia, which must always be treated in hospital, about 20 to 50% of all patients die.




So we can expect by SIRS and SARS ever 2-50% mortality rate by experience,from 100 cases survives from this incident 50 up to 98 patients

By agekohorte over 50 years more in the 50/50 chance/risc ratio




Overall, it is assumed that around 40,000 to 50,000 deaths are caused by severe pneumonia in Germany every year. In severe flu times, the number of pneumonia increases. As a result of flu (influenza), pneumonia can develop, especially in patients who are weakened in the immune system.


from 930 000 geral mortals per year = for 2 months                                                                    155 000 geral death number


For 2 months : Februar,Maerz  this means :                                                                                +- 4000 pneumonia deaths

https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Mehr-als-20-000-Corona-Faelle-in-Deutschland-article21659426.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Mehr-als-20-000-Corona-Faelle-in-Deutschland-article21659426.html)   -        71 infected SARS-Corona pneumonia deathcases


https://www.morgenpost.de/vermischtes/article228219843/Grippe-200-Tote-120-000-Infizierte-Grippewelle-in-Deutschland-2020-besonders-heftig.html (https://www.morgenpost.de/vermischtes/article228219843/Grippe-200-Tote-120-000-Infizierte-Grippewelle-in-Deutschland-2020-besonders-heftig.html)

Seit Oktober 2019 = +- 26 observation Wochen/weeks = 285 deaths /3 =                                   -          95 infected influenza-pneumonia death cases     




                                                                                                                                           -------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                                                                                                                     
                              In Germany                                                                                               >  3800 undefined pneumonia death cases each 2 months         




 from up to 155 000 - ( 18000 autopsy cases  / 12 )x2 months                                                    152 000 undefined death cases
 

                                                                    worthless paper for epidemologic and virologic studies

                          https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTotenschein (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTotenschein)




                                            Ehre wem Ehre gebuehrt                                                   Schande wem Schande gebuehrt



Wissenschaftler arbeiten an Universalimpfstoff Da sich der Erreger bei der Entwicklung der Impfstoffe weiter verändert, war auch der Impfstoff in den letzten Jahren nicht immer optimal. „In den vergangenen zehn Jahren lagen die WHO-Empfehlungen in mindestens drei Jahren komplett falsch“, sagte Welte.


Scientists are working on universal vaccine
As the pathogen continues to change in the development of vaccines, the vaccine has not always been optimal in recent years. "In the past ten years, the WHO recommendations have been completely wrong in at least three years," said Welte.

                                                                          In-/Kompetenz ! ?

                                                                  Welt-Heuchelei-/Humor-Organisation
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 22, 2020, 07:12:22 PM
On Radio here NYC USA they are saying  Birth -5 years old vulnerable [seeing cases extra needs for survival 5-12 years not so much
over 12 years...again potential issues /treatments for survival ??
will try to get more info
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 22, 2020, 08:44:47 PM



Will the social change (stress) have a psychological change over the next generations ,Genom-change ?


https://www.zdf.de/dokumentation/zdfinfo-doku/wunder-der-wissenschaft-gletscher-102.html (https://www.zdf.de/dokumentation/zdfinfo-doku/wunder-der-wissenschaft-gletscher-102.html)


Bataclan/Paris -attack + visitors :  posttraumatische Streß-Syndrom" oder funktionelle somatoforme Störungen : "guppies"- fear study  : black(safety)-white( spot) generation next-effect


                                                  post-traumatic stress syndrome "or functional somatoform disorders


Is remembering more than only mental,the moment/the act  becoming positive or negative instinct behaviour ?






For us healthy people the safe production and delivery from essential goods and the buyability ( financial reserve) over the next weeks,months,semesters will be important ,


up to the time when the "surprise and impossible" moment will becoming normal and acceptable !




Who never had real body/mind/soul experience with political revolution,disemployment,bancrupcy will be impressed about the now following eco-political acts reaction !




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FChina-testet-Corona-Impfstoff-an-ersten-Patienten-article21661008.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FChina-testet-Corona-Impfstoff-an-ersten-Patienten-article21661008.html)




#28 : https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/de (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/de)


patent citation : Chiron Corporation  Vironovative B.V.      Norwex Holding As            Vanderbilt University       Institute For Animal Health          and sino institutions


more than 17 years re-/search




what happens after the Corona-virus quantity entree sufficient for a body infection process ( healthy I.D.S.) : possible 3 phases


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalgeographic.de%2Fwissenschaft%2F2020%2F02%2Fcoronavirus-infektion-was-geschieht-im-koerper (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalgeographic.de%2Fwissenschaft%2F2020%2F02%2Fcoronavirus-infektion-was-geschieht-im-koerper)









Test-kit result : A.         a typical Corona-virus   

https://www.lungenaerzte-im-netz.de/krankheiten/grippe/abgrenzung-zu-erkaeltungskrankheiten/ (https://www.lungenaerzte-im-netz.de/krankheiten/grippe/abgrenzung-zu-erkaeltungskrankheiten/)

While the flu is caused by influenza viruses, more than 200 different pathogens - mostly so-called corona viruses, adeno viruses or rhino viruses - can be responsible for a common cold. Since colds and influenza are caused by different pathogens, a flu vaccination does not help against colds. Vaccination against these banal cold infections is also not available due to the large number of viruses and their relative harmlessness.



                       According to the Robert Koch Institute, corona viruses have been known to cause various diseases in humans and animals since the mid-1960s. In addition to simple colds, this also includes infections with a dangerous to fatal course of the disease, for example severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).




                      B.        atypical SARS1-Corona-virus       discovered by the italian medical Carlo Urbani in Vietnam


         from 2003      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fsars-virus-entdeckt-1103120.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fgesellschaft%2Fgesundheit%2Fcoronavirus%2Fsars-virus-entdeckt-1103120.html)






                     C.       atypical SARS2- new Corona-virus




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNeutralisationstest (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNeutralisationstest)


Importance in the medical routine


The neutralization test is a very complex and lengthy process, since devices are required for a cell culture and the test usually takes several days.


 Cell cultures require a much greater amount of work and experience for daily laboratory work than the use of pre-made test kits.


However, the specificity of the NT reaction is not achieved by any automated immunoassay, which is why the NT is often used as a reference test for quality control.


 There is no alternative to the neutralization test when looking for neutralizing antibodies.




https://www.enzyklopaedie-dermatologie.de/innere-medizin/pneumocystis-pneumonie-111043 (https://www.enzyklopaedie-dermatologie.de/innere-medizin/pneumocystis-pneumonie-111043)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fflexikon.doccheck.com%2Fde%2FPneumocystis-Pneumonie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fflexikon.doccheck.com%2Fde%2FPneumocystis-Pneumonie)

how many deaths shows


Serologische Reihenuntersuchungen haben bestätigt, dass Pneumocystis weltweit verbreitet ist. Bereits im Kindesalter liegt der Durchseuchungsgrad bei > 60 %. Die Übertragung erfolgt aerogen und verursacht im Erkrankungsfall überwiegend Pneumonien. Es kommen aber auch extrapulmonale Verlaufsformen vor. Das Vorhandensein von Pneumocystis führt bei Gesunden i.d.R. jedoch nicht zu einer Erkrankung.


akutes Krankheitsbild




fast and fury                                                       eine atypische A.I.D.S.-2.0 Welle





                                        What is all "Corona": from harmless to harmfull


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCoronaviridae (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCoronaviridae)


Coronaviridae family
Subfamily LetovirinaeGenus Alphaletovirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DAlphaletovirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhgMvUe3te-ZUDxEXKVgKlE9dr3gsw)
Subgenus MilecovirusSpecies Microhyla letovirus 1 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DMicrohyla_letovirus_1%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjlu7NYse9lCERRjJpkjhZt8RrfPw) (MLeV-1) (*)
Subfamily Orthocoronavirinae (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthocoronavirinae&usg=ALkJrhgl8qWg4dftgl4RjWcMN10fi8-0Fw) (formerly Coronavirinae )Genus Alphacoronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DAlphacoronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjBNPEhRzxmv9dfuuW2CxxlSUa9JQ)
Subgenus ColacovirusBat coronavirus species CDPHE15
Subgenus DecacovirusRhinolophus ferrumequinum alphacoronavirus species HuB-2013
Subgenus Duvinacovirus
Species Human Coronavirus 229E (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanes_Coronavirus_229E&usg=ALkJrhhrEekURzjtNHhciKur0XxntCmOig) (eng. Human coronavirus 229E , HCoV-229E)
Subgenus Luchacovirus
Species Lucheng Rn rat coronavirus
Subgenus MinacovirusFerret
coronavirus species
Species Mink coronavirus 1
Subgenus Minunacovirus
Species Miniopterus bat coronavirus 1
Species Miniopterus bat coronavirus HKU8
Subgenus Myotacovirus
Species Myotis ricketti alphacoronavirus Sax-2011
Species Nyctalus velutinus alphacoronavirus SC-2013
Subgenus PedacovirusPorcine epidemic diarrhea virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPorzines_Epidemische-Diarrhoe-Virus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjK-Z1OSji6YHcA2gRu_z6n2fT0BQ) (PEDV)
Species Scotophilus bat coronavirus 512
Subgenus RhinacovirusRhinolophus bat coronavirus HKU2
Subspecies Swine Acute Diarrhea Syndrome Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DSwine_Acute_Diarrhoea_Syndrome_Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhi_uIxyhED1RWkdtJ6PX9Zq13Yw7g) (SADS-CoV), pathogen of SADS (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SADS&usg=ALkJrhiNpuWMseaPNascABIiLl7CaMedFQ)[14] (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronaviridae&usg=ALkJrhi0OopatXz-zVmbRpYbZmx6Bcn6mQ#cite_note-14)
Subgenus Setracovirus
Species Human coronavirus NL63 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DHuman_coronavirus_NL63%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhg2ZWSSG-XjPfNuUNc6r4sPa9WOwA) (HCov-NL63)
Species NL63-related bat coronavirus strain BtKYNL63-9b
Subgenus Tegacovirus
Species Alphacoronavirus 1 (*)
Subspecies Canines Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canines_Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhgPBUAoox9-pUBPnaov-1ZEeGTHOw) (Eng. Canine coronavirus , CCoV)
Subspecies Feline Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felines_Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhiVIpVRG9Y-vSn5_iLEk4r82uRNig) (Eng. Feline coronavirus , FCoV)
Subspecies Transmissible Gastroenteritis Virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTransmissible-Gastroenteritis-Virus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhhU7G2pm3RTOssZO7GEGQ1-pEuCtA) (TGEV)Genus Betacoronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacoronavirus&usg=ALkJrhhdiFyLOWYjNKsoyXw5PfK5637N7A)
Subgenus Embecovirus
Species beta corona virus 1
Subspecies Bovine Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DBovines_Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhiQAE1yr5HYeM2nZXEwlyLO0e5DzQ) (BCoV)
Subspecies Equine Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DEquines_Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhhRF8cZoIZh-_fFkUw7F26k14-seA) (ECoV-NC99)
Subspecies Human Coronavirus OC43 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DHumanes_Coronavirus_OC43%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhgc_EvuLuU75q96fsVjyZRwzFMZvA) (HCoV-OC43)
Subspecies Porcine Hemagglutinating Encephalomyelitis Virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPorzines_h%25C3%25A4magglutinierendes_Enzephalomyelitis-Virus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhig_gMMCz49XGOuxAE-S7_tRRsMcQ) (HEV)
Subspecies Puffinosis Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffinosis-Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhhiBN4FNZyAOe-Z_4T3pLHmxcK9yg)(PCoV) - in Black-billed Shearwater ( Puffinus puffinus )
Subspecies Human Enteric Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DHumanes_Enterisches_Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjgwp8oaKSrddPJ3OIuU3O3ItHeLA) (HECoV) [15] (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronaviridae&usg=ALkJrhi0OopatXz-zVmbRpYbZmx6Bcn6mQ#cite_note-15)
Species China Rattus coronavirus HKU24Human coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DHuman_coronavirus_HKU1%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhiVUj9FPXmFAGGa_eIWnch_qpr6sg)
species HKU1 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DHuman_coronavirus_HKU1%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhiVUj9FPXmFAGGa_eIWnch_qpr6sg) (HCoV-HKU1
Species Murine coronavirus (*)
Subspecies Murine Hepatitis Virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DMurines_Hepatitis-Virus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhj9djYDAjY_6_Hbk4OPWZEWJGDgEA) (Eng. Mouse hepatitis virus , MHV)
Subspecies Rat Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratten-Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhhFQBMUpJSiviw9WuQvhleI8vvPGQ) (RtCoV)
Subgenus hibecovirus
Species Bat Hp betacoronavirus Zhejiang2013
Subgenus Merbecovirus
Species Hedgehog coronavirus 1
Species MERS coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MERS-CoV&usg=ALkJrhi9sM1amecmxJJH3IzP9eFPZw5_gw) (Eng. Middle East respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus , MERS-CoV)
Species Pipistrellus bat coronavirus HKU5
Species Tylonycteris bat coronavirus HKU4
Subgenus NobecovirusRousettus bat coronavirus GCCDC1 species
Species Rousettus bat coronavirus HKU9
Subgenus sarbecovirus


TEM (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmissionselektronenmikroskop&usg=ALkJrhhRXP6ZD3qMDBUWP6QvS2kIonMJfw) image of virions of (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virion&usg=ALkJrhiOxTX2rJ36D5C5gi_DZRtQlJ79-w) the SARS-CoV-2 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2&usg=ALkJrhjluXXUX14TYVVe7f81XNFCSgNlfw)
Species SARS-associated coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-assoziiertes_Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhjGEG5Em4cQzj6kDO3KpEgPuc2i8A) ( Eng.Severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus , SARS-CoV)SARS-CoV-1 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-assoziiertes_Coronavirus&usg=ALkJrhjGEG5Em4cQzj6kDO3KpEgPuc2i8A) , pathogen of SARS (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS&usg=ALkJrhjO92qm2L-HVyRY1C_PHWdRSx_dUg) [4] (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronaviridae&usg=ALkJrhi0OopatXz-zVmbRpYbZmx6Bcn6mQ#cite_note-arambaut2020-4)SARS-CoV-2 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2&usg=ALkJrhjluXXUX14TYVVe7f81XNFCSgNlfw) (obsolete 2019-novel Coronavirus , 2019-nCoV or Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus ), pathogen of COVID-19

Genus Gammacoronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DGammacoronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhinjKf3BfUbfvDnBkTsCB9yPYD3Fw)
Subgenus cegacovirusSpecies Beluga whale coronavirus SW1
Subgenus IgacovirusAvian coronavirus species (Eng. Avian coronavirus )
Subspecies Turkey Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTruthahn-Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhhBeMh5OAy6O4PYmsQuTdZCUwsU7g) (TCoV)
Subspecies Pheasant Coronavirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DFasanen-Coronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhi20IWpduAq1BHaewMEfKLOEgSTlA) (PhCoV)
Subspecies Infectious Bronchitis Virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DInfekti%25C3%25B6se-Bronchitis-Virus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjrcuW8c46NTS5EGMnx6CRM12wANQ)[/color] (IBV), causative agent of infectious bronchitis (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infekti%25C3%25B6se_Bronchitis&usg=ALkJrhj5Wcr92s5irNvDUC29G_-TcVZemQ)
Genus Delta Corona Virus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDeltacoronavirus%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhjcTO6_Zt8ScEkH6_5ULHdc_Qwr6w)
Subgenus Andecovirus
Species Wigeon coronavirus HKU20
Subgenus Buldecovirus
Species Bulbul coronavirus HKU11 (BuCoV HKU11) (*)
Species corona virus HKU15
Species bronze male coronavirus HKU13 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DBronzem%25C3%25A4nnchen-Coronavirus_HKU13%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhgPEdk-yusCqnLf9XXTmE1Y22bsrA) (Eng. Munia coronavirus HKU13 , MunCoV HKU13)
Species white-eye coronavirus HKU16
Species thrush coronavirus HKU12 (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDrossel-Coronavirus_HKU12%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhh4mzXXyxiBrl2kQvAy30Jj3qaECQ) (Eng. Thrush coronavirus HKU12 , ThCoV HKU12)
Subgenus HerdecovirusSpecies Night heron coronavirus HKU19
Subgenus MoordecovirusSpecies common moorhen coronavirus HKU21

The Torovirinae (genus Torovirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torovirus&usg=ALkJrhiGcnAMjXuSGTbCVRn6wcL7sO_B-Q) ) subfamily that was formerly part of the Coronaviridae is now assigned to the Tobaniviridae (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTobaniviridae%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhi9e4_0DF36MQpjYiDdHn6yWdPxrQ) family.
The genus Bafinivirus (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bafinivirus&usg=ALkJrhg3YBAUPGNqb2FuAGHkm5ERRXF3bg) , which was formerly placed in this subfamily ( Torovirinae ) within the Coronaviridae , is now assigned to the Tobaniviridae (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTobaniviridae%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhi9e4_0DF36MQpjYiDdHn6yWdPxrQ) family, subfamily Piscanivirinae (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DPiscanivirinae%26action%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1&usg=ALkJrhgb9Meoxs2ld9nsRETeVrYsaF1N0g) .



                             easy knowledge  ::)



What do the hospital teste-kits in Italy,Spain and other countries detecting ?


 Really harmpotential "SARS-2 Corona stam"  + MRSA bacillus                or           only conventional  harmless Corona-virus+ MRSA bacillus ? Do they MRSA search ?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext)


The profile :


The presence of 2019-nCoV in respiratory specimens was detected by next-generation sequencing or real-time RT-PCR methods. The primers and probe target to envelope gene of CoV were used and the sequences were as follows:


forward primer 5′-ACTTCTTTTTCTTGCTTTCGTGGT-3′; reverse primer 5′-GCAGCAGTACGCACACAATC-3′; and the probe 5′CY5-CTAGTTACACTAGCCATCCTTACTGC-3′BHQ1.






Labor personal and equipment quality ?  " .....    require a much greater amount of work and experience for daily laboratory work ....."


The neutralization test is a very complex and lengthy process, since devices are required for a cell culture and the test usually takes several days.





 Vertrauen kann gut sein,permanente Kontrolle ist immer besser !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 23, 2020, 11:04:10 AM
Member Duncan shared this
Waiting for source info
as mentioned already a French study showed 100% result with malaria med hydroxichloroquine [rheumatoid arthritis med too]
and Azithromicine [antibiotic'any formal review info and source would be great [still waiting.....and hoping
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2020, 11:23:34 AM
PCR-positive :


https://virologydownunder.com/what-does-a-positive-pcr-result-mean-or-not-mean/ (https://virologydownunder.com/what-does-a-positive-pcr-result-mean-or-not-mean/)






we can estimate over 10% of the population as stronger SIRS/SARS/AIDS risc-group for a-/typical pneumonia :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung)


But we also know that in the actual Corona(=Crown)-virus-epi-/pan-demie the mostly deaths =70% are male !


This is for these related age-class normal !




 
 pneumonie deaths ,multiple causality , actually in media specified/concentrated as SIRS/SARS


http://www.gbe-bund.de/oowa921-install/servlet/oowa/aw92/dboowasys921.xwdevkit/xwd_init?gbe.isgbetol/xs_start_neu/&p_aid=i&p_aid=64236992&nummer=6&p_sprache=D&p_indsp=99999999&p_aid=35381156 (http://www.gbe-bund.de/oowa921-install/servlet/oowa/aw92/dboowasys921.xwdevkit/xwd_init?gbe.isgbetol/xs_start_neu/&p_aid=i&p_aid=64236992&nummer=6&p_sprache=D&p_indsp=99999999&p_aid=35381156)


                         Now about real life :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fgesundheit%2Farticle124967450%2FLungenentzuendung-die-vernachlaessigte-Gefahr.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fgesundheit%2Farticle124967450%2FLungenentzuendung-die-vernachlaessigte-Gefahr.html)


There are no precise statistics on pneumonia as the cause of death.
Because doctors often write down a cardiac arrest on the death certificate when they are called to a deceased, especially in the elderly.
"Heart bias" is what Tobias Welte calls.



The actual cause of death is rarely recorded.
It is easier and less expensive to write down “cardiac arrest” on the death certificate than to look for pneumonia (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.welt.de/themen/lungenentzuendung/&usg=ALkJrhiLuH2YZ12-KJA2-YWXZaT5HP_Ovw) with the help of a precise histological examination.


Simple,easy solution  ::)  and cheap  :)

https://www.nzz.ch/lungenentzuendung-1.4550285 (https://www.nzz.ch/lungenentzuendung-1.4550285)


When pneumonia is mentioned, it generally means inflammation of the lungs caused by pathogens, i.e. infectious. Over 90 percent of cases are caused by bacteria, the remaining 10 percent are caused by viruses or - in the case of immunocompromised - fungi. An inflammatory reaction of the lung tissue can also be triggered by physical or chemical triggers. Examples are budgerigar or humidifier secretions and various medications. The term pneumonitis is also common for these non-infectious forms of pneumonia.




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Farchiv%2F170864%2FInfluenza-Woher-kommt-die-Zahl-der-Todesfaelle (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Farchiv%2F170864%2FInfluenza-Woher-kommt-die-Zahl-der-Todesfaelle)


In 2014, a large FS documentary by the NDR showed that 20,000 people die of the flu in Germany every year. This factual statement has been repeated several times. On Austrian television (3sat), it was learned at the same time that 30 to 70 people had to be vaccinated against flu (aka influenza) so that one (!) Only (!) Infection was prevented. But 20,000 dead ?! Who determined that?
The above article tells us that there are actually only 5,000 to 8,000 dead. And that there was only one complaint, namely in the 2012/13 season so many, namely 20,000 dead.


 The experts at the AG Influenza and the Robert Koch Institute, however, kindly tell us how many people have actually died empirically from influenza. "Laboratory-confirmed deaths" from influenza in the years 2010 to 2013: 26 to 198 per season. . .


So we see an EXZESSFACTOR 100  (= 20000 /198 )  and not only EXZESSFACTOR 15 ,peak and average EXZESSFACTOR probably

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: T-1000 on March 23, 2020, 04:41:01 PM

Hi all,


As everyone are made aware of current situation and many are panicking due unknowns it is probably best time to reveal suppressed technologies.


Apart from traditional medicine which do not cure infection cause and only is using pharmacy to ease symptoms (with poisonous all side effects) there is another method which can be used to cure cause of diseases, bacteria, viruses and such. The method is called frequency healing which is targeting causing viruses, bacteria and infected cells and shattering them by the means of resonance.


Please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0_kazbb_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0_kazbb_U) for things in action.



If that raised up your curiosity there is much more to see for self-education. Like the articles:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278020661_The_Rife_Handbook_of_Frequency_Therapy_and_Holistic_Health_an_integrated_approach_for_cancer_and_other_diseases_5th_Edition (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278020661_The_Rife_Handbook_of_Frequency_Therapy_and_Holistic_Health_an_integrated_approach_for_cancer_and_other_diseases_5th_Edition)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3845545/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3845545/)


For sceptics - all that need to be applied inside bio laboratories hands-on from your infected samples to see live action.



And for people who have Tesla coils and know how to make modulation on it - you need 3 things integrated in order to affect biology:


1) The scalar field for directly interface with DNA.
2) The frequency modulated electric field (or any other equivalent field which penetrates body).
3) The correct targeted frequency for shattering Coronavirus and COVID-19 cells.

The frequencies to test on virus:

Coronavirus_SARS - 9918, 9740, 4959, 4870, 2479.5, 2435, 1394.7, 1369.6, 1239.7, 1217.5, 774.8, 760.9, 619.9, 608.7, 464.9, 456.5, 309.9, 304.4, 155, 152.2 and around in frequency ranges for mutations. The source for frequencies is from
CAFL - The Consolidated Annotated Frequency List (http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htm)

The carrier frequency is on 11th higher harmonics from targeted frequency starting from 1MHz.

Thanks to Rife in last century who had lifelong dedication to this research and was suppressed, jailed and robbed and died on 1971 - https://behiveofhealing.com/forgotten-genius-royal-raymond-rife/ (https://behiveofhealing.com/forgotten-genius-royal-raymond-rife/)
Like Tesla and his vision on free energy for everyone on planet, the similar story..


Hopefully this message is useful.


Cheers!

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
T-1000,
not the actual Corona-virus is the base problem but the strong cases of infected people : superinfection
geral given as disease name Covid-19

The virus has his "Eigen"- Schwingung/vibration and by superinfection the bacilles and/ or fungi ,too  !
Only treating the " new Corona"-virus it is like to kill/neutralize of an enemy their cavallery the horses but not the armed rider !

# 38 : Rife or Clarke therapy for #52 : all the different superinfection variations = frequency cocktail




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobilegeeks.de%2Fnews%2Fneue-ki-kann-das-corona-virus-mit-96-iger-sicherheit-erkennen%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobilegeeks.de%2Fnews%2Fneue-ki-kann-das-corona-virus-mit-96-iger-sicherheit-erkennen%2F)


a great tool for fast diagnostical infection( or Corona virus presence)  detection success but not a medical/therapeutic solution


The algorithm was developed by Alibaba's Damo Academy research institute.Scientists have confirmed the AI ​​with data from over 5,000 confirmed cases
The system recognizes the difference between infections with the new SARS Cov-2 virus and normal viral pneumonia with a certainty of 96%.
The algorithm is up-to-date with the latest scientific findings on the virus.






By this numbers :

https://www.nzz.ch/lungenentzuendung-1.4550285 (https://www.nzz.ch/lungenentzuendung-1.4550285)


When pneumonia is mentioned, it generally means inflammation of the lungs caused by pathogens, i.e. infectious. Over 90 percent of cases are caused by bacteria, the remaining 10 percent are caused by viruses or - in the case of immunocompromised - fungi. An inflammatory reaction of the lung tissue can also be triggered by physical or chemical triggers. Examples are budgerigar or humidifier secretions and various medications. The term pneumonitis is also common for these non-infectious forms of pneumonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_pneumonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_pneumonia)


we get now by KI up to 96% from 10% viral pneumonia


when and how the other  >90% cases will become detectable ?






Society 4.0



With detection AI, almost all deaths can be autopsied in the future.
If the cause of death proves to be due to a lack of hospital hygiene or medical treatment errors, then this branch will be confronted with horrendous claims for damages and sharply increasing insurance risk premiums in the future!


Has been observed in the U.S. for a long time:
Loss or return of the license to practice medicine
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 23, 2020, 08:59:32 PM
https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full%20Text%3A%2041591_2020_822_OnlinePDF.pdf?token=IULUvIufpS8AXE43riPpExKrcZMUcwpHIO0w4yhOno61RnG9Vz6%2Fr7GCrI5AcBi92o1n3tikPjKFkiYotkHNpNM75Zwrwg1JnULfD6ql3lY%2FTN4C%2BtSUJX6hWRxjtkieuCh%2FZ3DLB4IVSRfpmhKqIN03JE%2Fa6Skb7%2BZP7KaptWGUaNKqduoqYlLbqiioDXVq6R1Se4bGQnT7HNP7lnlhp40M0VnqSPp7kwO%2Fuk2bUqy4COccDRtTVCPDgs7U4YSWU2eA4U40nO1peLgyinFGPd3%2FHIjGuWHdtUJrsgreM1haTKxnHnehRLWlPX4GFr8c6Vbi%2ByE4hgPzCu7ffaQiUg%3D%3D (https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full%20Text%3A%2041591_2020_822_OnlinePDF.pdf?token=IULUvIufpS8AXE43riPpExKrcZMUcwpHIO0w4yhOno61RnG9Vz6%2Fr7GCrI5AcBi92o1n3tikPjKFkiYotkHNpNM75Zwrwg1JnULfD6ql3lY%2FTN4C%2BtSUJX6hWRxjtkieuCh%2FZ3DLB4IVSRfpmhKqIN03JE%2Fa6Skb7%2BZP7KaptWGUaNKqduoqYlLbqiioDXVq6R1Se4bGQnT7HNP7lnlhp40M0VnqSPp7kwO%2Fuk2bUqy4COccDRtTVCPDgs7U4YSWU2eA4U40nO1peLgyinFGPd3%2FHIjGuWHdtUJrsgreM1haTKxnHnehRLWlPX4GFr8c6Vbi%2ByE4hgPzCu7ffaQiUg%3D%3D)




Wuhan SARS2-Corona virus wave mortality rate < crude mortality rate

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rubikon.news%2Fartikel%2Ffalsche-statistik (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rubikon.news%2Fartikel%2Ffalsche-statistik)



Die Hype-Party is´ nun tot,mause-tot !




Sehr viel Daten-Material abzuarbeiten,aus Politik-/Kultur-Bereich,aus zwei Wochen prae/poste Corona-Schock actio/reactio

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spektrum.de%2Flexikon%2Fneurowissenschaft%2Femotionen%2F3405 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spektrum.de%2Flexikon%2Fneurowissenschaft%2Femotionen%2F3405)


EXZESSFAKTOR 15,25,100

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-ibuprofen-medikamente-wechselwirkungen-1.4850062 (https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-ibuprofen-medikamente-wechselwirkungen-1.4850062)


Renowned statistics expert John Ioannidis has just publicly complained that the current pandemic lacks reliable data. This applies to the information on how many people are infected and sick in which country. Estimates fluctuate whether the official figures are too low by a factor of 3 or by a factor of 300. Lethality is still not secured enough to make projections. Such uncertainties also apply to many therapy recommendations. These are bad times for evidence-based medicine, i.e. the diagnostic and therapeutic approach based on the best scientific studies and criteria. Virologists and other experts are currently only driving on sight. In view of the new type of challenge, they cannot do anything else.


Up to EXZESSFACTOR 300  ::)

Are Virologists and Epidemologists getting salaries for such a  :P  n exzellent work result ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 24, 2020, 02:46:23 PM



against coccal/fungal superinfection there is a vaccina production capacity limit






https://www.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de/news/artikel/2020/03/16/wann-gibt-es-wieder-pneumokokken-impfstoffe (https://www.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de/news/artikel/2020/03/16/wann-gibt-es-wieder-pneumokokken-impfstoffe)


The problem is: SARS-CoV-2 has developed into a pandemic, there is no possibility of importing pneumococcal vaccine. MSD explains: "We are currently experiencing an increased need for Pneumovax® 23 worldwide. That is why we cannot switch stocks between countries." Even simply reproducing vaccines does not work adhoc.
Because the production of vaccines as a biotechnological process is complex and can take up to 36 months. MSD wants "to put all available cans of Pneumovax® 23 on the market immediately".
Efforts are being made “to accelerate the next deliveries to ensure continuous availability,” MSD told DAZ.online.


So the high risc group ( over 65 years ) will stay in isolation/quarantaene for a longer time



diabetes group ?  https://www.diabetes-ratgeber.net/Insulin (https://www.diabetes-ratgeber.net/Insulin)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthcare-in-europe.com%2Fde%2Fnews%2Fcoronavirus-was-muessen-diabetiker-beachten.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthcare-in-europe.com%2Fde%2Fnews%2Fcoronavirus-was-muessen-diabetiker-beachten.html)

in emergency case : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4384872/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4384872/)






https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Warum-bisher-wenige-Patienten-sterben-article21665012.html (https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Warum-bisher-wenige-Patienten-sterben-article21665012.html)


Age


Because very little is tested in many countries, only the average age of the demonstrably infected is known.
But there are likely to be many younger people who have also had the virus and have had no or only mild symptoms.
Among the demonstrably infected, the average age in Italy is much higher than in other countries, including Germany.
"Average age of corona cases in Germany: 45 years, Italy: 63 years," tweeted the German population researcher Andreas Backhaus earlier this week.


On the online platform Medium, he compares South Korea and Italy on key dates on which both had about the same number of cases.
In South Korea, just under 9 percent of the confirmed infections were over 70, in Italy more than 40 percent.


                                    Clearly that the average mortality rate is not with 40/9 between Italy/Southkorea to compare = >4 times


 but by each national age-factor (> 70 years risc as part from average 75 years life expectance)
and  each national sexus-factor: 70% male ,the average male life expectance up to 3 years lower than female






                                          but by statistics 40/9 quantitative x criteria= up to 200/9 = more than 20 times higher qualitative


                                                              https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-south-korea (https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-south-korea) ( and China )


The infection is rather easy for younger people.
 The Robert Koch Institute (RKI) only names the age group from 60, not from 70 years.Even there the proportion in Germany is clearly below the Italian values:
 At the beginning of the week 19 percent of the demonstrably infected in Germany were over 60, more than half were between 35 and 59.
 Especially with regard to Italy it is important to emphasize: It is about proven cases.



Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Floor on March 24, 2020, 08:59:10 PM
Just to my neighbor (from across the street). I trust this guy, a good man also well educated.

One of his oldest friends (a doctor in NY city) Sent him an email.  My nieghbor read it to me off his phone (I asked him to). 

This virus is deadly, very difficult to stop, and highly contagious.
Over 200 patient deaths in one week, expected to increase dramically. 
His own immediated superior dead, other staff as well.
Supply shortages of every sort. 

                                   Please take this very seriously folks.


             floor
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 25, 2020, 01:40:26 AM
These are the optimistic death projections in USA:

2020-03-25         771
2020-03-26         886
2020-03-27         1019
2020-03-28         1172
2020-03-29         1348
2020-03-30         1550
2020-03-31         1782
2020-04-01         2050
2020-04-02         2357
2020-04-03         2711
2020-04-04         3117
2020-04-05         3585
2020-04-06         4122
2020-04-07         4741
2020-04-08         5452
2020-04-09         6270
2020-04-10         7210
2020-04-11         8292
2020-04-12         9535
2020-04-13         10966
2020-04-14         12610
2020-04-15         14502
2020-04-16         16677
2020-04-17         19179
2020-04-18         22056
2020-04-19         25364
2020-04-20         29169
2020-04-21         33544
2020-04-22         38576     <-- 2019 flu (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html) in USA
2020-04-23         44362
2020-04-24         51016
2020-04-25         58669
2020-04-26         67469
2020-04-27         77589
2020-04-28         89228
2020-04-29         102612
2020-04-30         118004
2020-05-01         135704
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 25, 2020, 01:58:34 AM
FDA here just approved blood transfusions for sick from persons who have recovered here !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2020, 02:21:58 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffragdenstaat.de%2Fanfrage%2Ftodesfalle-je-tag-in-italien%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffragdenstaat.de%2Fanfrage%2Ftodesfalle-je-tag-in-italien%2F)


Summary of the request


In Italy, around 1500-1600 people die on average per day according to my internet research. How did this number develop exactly in January, February, March 2020 and in each case compared to the previous year 2019 and possibly 2018?
The death rate is 10.7 per 1000 inhabitants. Has this changed, and if so, since Corona?


Inquirer Susanne Wibbe wrote on March 24, 2020, 8:02 a.m .:
After all the research that I can do with my resources, it is even a little different:

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Italy itself and so it was last published in the Tagesschau confirmed that it always says ALL dead. Hospitals in Germany have also confirmed that they cannot differentiate between deaths due to or with corona. What if Corona is nothing more than a general family of viruses that everyone (and also measured in the throat) can carry with them now or for a long time?
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                                                     ALL DEATHS :P  INDEPENDENT IF INTOXICATION OR KNIFE OR BULLIT OR FLU OR PESTE OR CORONA  ?!

January 31 days x 1500        February 29 days x 1500        March 23 days x 1500 = total 83 x 1500 =

                                                                   124500 ( without common seasonal exzessfactor )
                                                                    150000( multiplicator 1600 + seasonal exzessfactor)

How many male and female italians died in average in hospital  in last decades  per day  ?




 
According to my information, the tests were not fully validated due to the short time available. Tests in the throat are anyway to be viewed critically according to my understanding of loans, since viruses are part of life at all times and always sit with their hosts, because otherwise they are not viable. But they don't always trigger life-threatening diseases. And illnesses are also part of life.


The reaction of all governments to facts / figures that have not been properly analyzed is unbelievable. In my view, one should not work with forecasts but with a simple look in the rear view mirror. HOW HAS DEATH RATE DEVELOPED IN THE NATIONAL COUNTRIES SINCE THE CORONA OUTBREAK? And you may find that nothing changes like in Italy. My research has shown that.


It is even more critical that the government relies on numbers from an American institute. How easy to checkmate an entire country in our modern times or an entire region if you wanted to.


And unbelievable that in a country like D we cannot understand the current deaths per day properly and should rely on statements from the health authorities with completely overwhelmed employees in a crisis of unprecedented size.


It also seems to me that e-commerce is looking forward to golden times. And it's also a golden age for the pharmaceutical industry. And also for some big, very influential and powerful investors.



And what's the question: Cui bono? Who does all of this serve the most? The Netherlands come to a different assessment of the dangerous situation, as does Russia, and certainly some others as well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 25, 2020, 06:08:08 AM
Iancaiv
It only took me a few minutes of research to conclude your a moron.

Quote
In Italy, 85.6 percent of those who have died were over 70, according to the National Institute of Health's (ISS) latest report.
With 23 percent of Italians over 65 years old, the Mediterannean country has the second-oldest population in the world after Japan - and observers believe age distribution could also have played a role in raising the fatality rate.
According to the ISS's latest report tracing the profile of COVID-19 victims, 48 percent of the deceased had an average of three pre-existing illnesses.

No conspiracies needed, Italy has a large elderly population with health issues hence the reason 85% of the deaths were over 70 and the large numbers of dead... case closed sherlock.

On another note, the more populist or conservative regions who are also the most anti-science and tend to believe fake conspiracy theories also seem to be suffering the highest infection rates hence deaths. So it is a disease however in another sense it is also a cure for stupidity, ergo natural selection.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 25, 2020, 08:47:14 AM
Thank you,I accept it,to be "moron" ! ;)
But with some seconds research : #27 - these ISS numbers were and are known- but by apect that all these death cases-theretimes about 2000- would have been causality-forensic attested and "virologic Corona-cases"  !

But you can also read : Lombardia ,in geral over the last years, each day dies 250 people :
"Stichtag 1.Januar": 83 x 250 = 20750 deaths for this 83 days quasi-semester time period only Lombardia  !

Lombardia 10 mio habitants,Italy +- 60 mio habitants = linear 124500 deaths ! How many during  hospitalzation ?
Actually "Corona"- period deaths : Only 6820  !
When "ALL", what is about 124500 - 6820 = 117680  ?

"Ma fia"- statistik, the rest for the "Spagheti Bolognese or Ravioli " in conserves  ?
Why not ? Recycling is in ! And it is not by law and rules " cannibalism" but oekologische Wiederverwertung  !

Oder schnell fuer den Organ-Handel ausschlachten ?Was kriegt man so im " medical dark net" fuer die verschiedenen Fleischposten ?
Na hoffentlich mehr als : 1 ganzes Lebend-Kalb ( inclusive Anti-Biotika-Vorrat) ≤ 10 €

Omi,aus Parma,letzter Wille :meinen Hintern vermache ich meinem Enkel Giovanni .Das Rezept zur Aufbereitung zu " Parma Schinken" ist ja Familien-Betriebsgeheimnis  8)

So as Moron machiavellianism makes part as tool of our day by day " goettlichen Life- Comedy"
ICH REITE DEN TOD UND NICHT DER TOD BEREITET MICH

So onepower,by all your mental power, explain me/us this 124500/6820 divergence logical  !( One parameter ,house death/hospital death ratio,  excluding !)  ::)
 8) Rentenbetrug ? Fuer Tote weiterhin Rente  ,auch " Miete" genannt, beziehen  ?

 in dubio - pro autopsia et obductio -  reo  causa

The same problem for Spain : by geral daily death rate about 1400 cases how many Corona-virus effect ?

Such economies are not worth to be members from the "same value"- E.U.,the European Community( thanks irish and french citizens poll not "Union",staying "Community",declassifying the " contract of Lisbon" as Constitution )
Schit happens,but like Mr. Rutte said : enough toilett paper for 10 years





here is "law and order" execution :



embezzlement
Court confirms termination for 1.30 euros
Job gone because of the wrong billing of two deposit vouchers worth 48 and 82 cents: The Berlin State Labor Court has confirmed the immediate dismissal of a supermarket cashier. The woman's lawyer announced a complaint against the verdict.




here,too:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpflegeaktuell.de%2Fmagazin%2Fhaftstrafe-fuer-schwarzarbeit-in-der-pflegebranche%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpflegeaktuell.de%2Fmagazin%2Fhaftstrafe-fuer-schwarzarbeit-in-der-pflegebranche%2F)

 The operator of a mobile care service from the vicinity of Hof has been sentenced to three years in prison for social security fraud.


here will become "law and order" executed :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kn-online.de%2FNachrichten%2FSchleswig-Holstein%2FSchwarzarbeit-Viele-auslaendische-Pflegekraefte-illegal-in-Deutschland (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kn-online.de%2FNachrichten%2FSchleswig-Holstein%2FSchwarzarbeit-Viele-auslaendische-Pflegekraefte-illegal-in-Deutschland)


Only about ten percent of the estimated 600,000 foreign According to the associations' estimates, care workers who live in German households have for domestic Maintain a contract and pay social security contributions.


                                                                               


                                                                             The rest ( = 540 000 ) work black.


                             90% crime situation     = assuming 40 000 Euros AG/AN brut income per case (full time contract) (Faustformel :Brutto x 1,8 )


                                up to  20 000 Euros per annum income tax and social security contribution to repay for each service year + fraud penal  x 540 000

Auf jeden Justiz-Verbrecher ein Kopfgeld,+- allgemeiner 10% Finderlohn und selbst der/die  geldarme Enkel*in denunziert dessen kriminelle/n Opa/Oma !
 A.I.-phones sind teuer ! Foxtronn-Apple ordinaerer Iphone nicht gemeint !

Anstatt Anzeige seitens Enkel*in und stattdessen  materiellen Vergleich, interfamiliaeres "Schutzgeld", fuehrt zur Mittaeterschaft !

                              No Amnesia,no Amnestia : NIE WIEDER UNRECHT                                    -                                     GENERATION



Is there also Corona-infection in the actual orbital international "I.S.S.- crew" identified ?

onepower,when I get estatal institutions official numbers = statistical fascism,then I wish transparence and clarity !
Fascism = central co-ordinations= Buendelung/Konzentration

        Der STAAT             DAS AMT        DIE FUNKTION      DAS AMTSHAUS   DIE KOMPETENZ

     DIE AMTSFUEHRUNG    DIE BELOHNUNG                    DIE STRAFE

staatsamtliche Funktion ,but social democratic fascism and autocratic fascism to differ

U.N.O. = world broadest semi-democratic fascistic institution


To feel the changes over millenials - time journey- and understand successes and errors is an important part for the implementation into the "New Age"- society
The cheap energy on demand device will destroy many estates their socio-economical construction withestatal finance system bankrupcy like actual to observe as Argentina,Venezuela,Libannon cases but alsoin E.U.- Europe and North-America,the average free energy KWh generating price the estatal auction show us : ≤ 2 ¢/ KWh average

For many OPEC economies this means - only crude oil/gas as energy(not include "damned" use for plastics,pharmaceuticals)
1600 KWh x 2¢ less CO2-certification penal less transport costs = 25 Petro-$ max per barrel

WERTE-society is not a Midas-society

And : price Venezuela water compared to combustion ?
And : price of energy compared to health service costs  ?
So for " autonomous living" also a SOS-health-box is a need and the skill to treat this emergency case !

Jovoto 300$ house = 1x teeth  treatment dentist       Self-medication ?  :P
Beginning with the AIDS/HIV - pandemia in the mid-80' the health therapy costs 10000$ per annum and case,falling 2010 to 75$ per annum and case


sine dubio - ohne Erbarmen,aber bei 100% kinetischer und digitaler Lustausuebung  die Gesellschaft sustainable veraendern ,moron-Ehrenwort,Ameno
Euer perverses Leben erfahren,ausleben und darueber a. berichten und spaeter richtensoll EURE JUGEND,nicht ich
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 25, 2020, 09:49:10 PM
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The same problem for Spain : by geral daily death rate about 1400 cases how many Corona-virus effect ?

Such economies are not worth to be members from the "same value"- E.U.,the European Community( thanks irish and french citizens poll not "Union",staying "Community",declassifying the " contract of Lisbon" as Constitution )
Schit happens,but like Mr. Rutte said : enough toilett paper for 10 years

Worth is a relative concept...
In many supposedly "developed" countries like the U.S. diabetes and cancer are rampant because there overpopulated environment has become toxic. Meanwhile in some other countries like Italy, Spain and Greece they seem to have a relatively healthy and happy older population. It begs the question, if you were that person dying of cancer in the U.S. what would you pay for another 10 or 20 healthy years?. To see your children grow up and have grandchildren or even great grandchildren?.

You see time is something no amount of money can buy and you can't take your money with you.

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 26, 2020, 06:36:29 AM
Money The pentagon controls all the money, lets go back to the bad old days
back to the days when the local badies use to ride into town and shoot up the sherrif
so instead of using the army they got a local gun slingers to sort it out.

Now you have banisters controlling the army, now they don’t need hardware development
so they don’t need loads of workers of people who just consuming.

you had 911 now its COVID 19    I bet it adds up to 9  8) 8)

covid19  3+6+4+9+4 + 19 @ base 9 = 9

What we need is the resonant frequency of this virus !   any one ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 10:49:21 AM
Worth is a relative concept...
In many supposedly "developed" countries like the U.S. diabetes and cancer are rampant because there overpopulated environment has become toxic. Meanwhile in some other countries like Italy, Spain and Greece they seem to have a relatively healthy and happy older population. It begs the question, if you were that person dying of cancer in the U.S. what would you pay for another 10 or 20 healthy years?. To see your children grow up and have grandchildren or even great grandchildren?.

You see time is something no amount of money can buy and you can't take your money with you.

Worth-system and system-worth are also in different position as individual-worth to worth-individual

    worth/value as space function/parameter
    worth/value as time function/parameter
    worth/value as social " currency " and "relationship-glue"


"same value" is not " same worth" : quantitative or qualitative fix point

Seldom/ever
Rare/common
In front of you a : fruit basket 1x fruit 2x   taking ? ever only the same ? diversification ? sweet/soure
fixed schedule( catering-plan) ?

Monday- fruit,Thuesday-fruit,......
Monday lunch -fruit,Monday- dinner-fruit,.......

Grapefruit as menu entrance, beef with apple-mousse and as dessert : fruit-salad ( orange,pine-apple,kiwi,...) ?

Live local,buy global ( before/after import-quarantaene)



About book-value " existence and exodus "

Simple example :
I construct a new building for 100 units but do not use it for ten years so this "hard ware" is by yearly 10% amortization quote finally 0 units worth

~ zombie-investment / altruistic time lost project

Do we discuss about values and worth from soft view or by clearly defined formulation of economy ?
I take google map and an A.I.-economy program which neutralizes hardware/ physical things by given production priority date less amortization quotes ( short term/long term AfA)
You/we see cities/estates subjective which by objective amortization anymore exists as "worth objects"  !
For amortization and the final state in german the used expression : totes Kapital


 Right use ! latin : Nomen "mors" casus Nominative "mortem" casus Accusative( mors,morte,mortem,..)  for Tod/death
+ Prae-fixum "a-" and the active state " i -sat-/ion" ergo a-mort- isat-ion in german-latin

Latin is common process-and operation-language,in tribunal and physics and economy,global !



the verbum as infinitive "agere" and singular,1.person and praesens ago to the gerundium case "actum"
it becomes in english =latin-shortly "(the) act" and active "act-ion" for   to do/ to act the doing/ the acting

1000 words to 1 picture
Kapital also written capital but in each language different spoken and meaned relative to classical understanding  between academic specific use and populistic and/or ideologic term in reality an other expression for " object" but each one has often his own " subjectivity/unprofessional understanding-politology"

This "trial with success or error" we have as daily "conversation"-game between over ≥ 1 human "group"-experiment  also called family with male-language/picture and female language/picture translation difficulties  ;D also between foreign generation-members ::)
Also we differ between : " relative" and " relativistic"

Also people participate clearly in economy as "commercial function-objects =  things/hard ware and have the yearly amortization quote,international and local and personal.

We all lives in our life in a body-mind slavery and often we do not like to see or accept normal facts and mean professional used definition and statement as " Unverschaemtheit/Beleidigung= insolence/insult" but it is only reality in our " fake and fiction society", awake moment !

   we come and we go with health and  illness with luck and with sadness

But in our life we have ever the solution :
feeling well we can read or see as movie"tragedies" and by sad feeling " comedies"

somebody needs pharmaceuticals and psycho-therapy for this change  ;)


Do not care about your life,mother-sun also does not care ( about)  you ::)


 In our media and life we meet " selten komische Voegel" which neither understand KATA-strophe as written  lyrical genesis neither Dis-aster as next evolution step nor  collaps  as typical and often acting daily process

                                                       Veritas

ich kollabiere(collaps) desastroes(disaster) die Kata(the life song) von der ersten bis zur 7. und damit letzten Strophe emotional( +++ up/down to ---),ueber EEG und EKG nachweisbar
bin dabei aber kein professionelles KLAGEWEIB

Die Ohn-/Macht des Wortes/des Bildes : bedeutungs a. -voll  b. -los fuer den Singulaerem = individual

Singularis populus to differ singularis majestatis
Pluralis populus  to differ pluralis majestatis
Poebel differs from Nobilitas

terror and horror are gerundiums ,I demand from people in estate official function that they can deklinate this expression and conjugate the infinitive over all given tempi !
                                                EIGNUNGSTEST/EICHUNG
                                 global     male/female/sissies  separation
Who can : shows intelligence      Who not can : Bloeder Primitivling ,Kretin,Bildungszombie



#66 :  ::) Attention,nine is falling + Murphy law

                  #666

                  gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern  ;D             

                 Ray,my Ommi would have said about you : " Doedel!"
                 About me,what I know,so she was correct  : " DU bist ein Engel !"             

                 My response : yes,with a B- in front  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 26, 2020, 04:00:21 PM
from Ground Zero NYC westchester county where NYC had first "hit"
Treated 350 patients so far 100% success [3-4 hrs breathing restored]

I see he used [not uesd] Verpies Zinc protocol / method [ 1-2-3  " Knock out Punch"
Shared by member Duncan
https://www.independentsentinel.com/doctor-treated-350-cov-19-patients-with-100-success-using-the-drug-the-media-hates/ (https://www.independentsentinel.com/doctor-treated-350-cov-19-patients-with-100-success-using-the-drug-the-media-hates/)
some say video is blocked in there country ?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=7h9UXkDaI5A&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=7h9UXkDaI5A&feature=emb_title)

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 26, 2020, 05:07:08 PM
There are some reports out there that claim that hydroxychloroquine does not "kill" the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
This is technically true because the purpose of the hydroxychloroquine is not to "kill" the virus.


It is the intracellular Zinc 2+ ions that are responsible for inhibiting the viral RNA replication by blocking the Replicase protein (RdRP).
The Hydroxychloroquine is just a "doorman", known as ionophore, that lets the Zinc ions into the cells.


So, I am not surprised that Hydroxychloroquine does not work without subsequent Zinc supplementation (by inhalation preferably).


Azithromycin works differently and it increases the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc combination by a separate mechanism..




P.S.
Yes, yes I know that virii are not alive and as such cannot be killed.  That is why I put this word in quotes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
In relation to fluvid17 with 2500 official and 25000 estimated death cases by Robert Koch Institute number actually the german Covid19 situation with accumulated 230 official deaths is seasonal virus infection deaths average,specially when it is written Covid19 death average 81 years for Germany by geral 78 years average life expectance








https://www.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de/news/artikel/2019/10/04-10-2019/mild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison/chapter:2 (https://www.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de/news/artikel/2019/10/04-10-2019/mild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison/chapter:2)


The RKI declares that the deaths reported to the RKI according to the IfSG are therefore not a basis for estimates of influenza-related deaths.


Because: In contrast to other diseases, influenza is often not recorded as the cause of death on the death certificate. Even though flu has contributed significantly to death, the RKI's experience is that deaths attributable to influenza are hidden in other causes of death, such as diabetes mellitus, pneumonia or diseases of the cardiovascular system.






This is same for Corona-case !


 81 years age group

that deaths attributable  as diabetes mellitus, pneumonia or diseases of the cardiovascular system ,


                                                      or                            are hidden as Corona/Covid19    !




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fpolitik%2Finland%2Fim-elsass-werden-alte-corona-patienten-nicht-mehr-beatmet-16698139.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fpolitik%2Finland%2Fim-elsass-werden-alte-corona-patienten-nicht-mehr-beatmet-16698139.html)




Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 26, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
Here again ground zero westchester county NYC suburbs
Where Virus first had strong presence/deaths


Community of 35,000 plus ....100% success with persons experiencing respiratory distress [cessation of symptom typical in 3-4 hours after administering  protocol  below .

Thx
Chet K
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2020, 10:07:43 PM
sentire,sense : to feel


https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/coronavirus-vergleiche-sind-wichtig-ld.1545862 (https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/coronavirus-vergleiche-sind-wichtig-ld.1545862)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzz.ch%2Fmeinung%2Fcoronavirus-vergleiche-sind-wichtig-ld.1545862 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzz.ch%2Fmeinung%2Fcoronavirus-vergleiche-sind-wichtig-ld.1545862)

In Italy there were 631 coronavirus deaths (as of March 11, 20). That is bad.


But in winter 2016/2017 no fewer than 25,000 flu deaths were registered, including 19,400 over the age of 65.


                             


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Finland%2Fgrippe-129.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Finland%2Fgrippe-129.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de%2Fnews%2Fartikel%2F2019%2F10%2F04-10-2019%2Fmild-oder-schlimm-wie-war-die-letzte-grippesaison%2Fchapter%3A2)



                                              Robert Koch Institut =RKI


Germany 2017/2018   !            1674 flu deaths  registred                                         25100 deaths estimation =   RKI-Exzessfaktor 15x


Italy       2016/2017   :          25000 flu deaths registred            x RKI-Exzessfactor 15x



                       


                                              = 375 000 flu deaths estimation for winter flu period 2016/2017 in ITALY




                                            per winter month,winter week ?


are they competent ?


Margit Osterloh and Bruno S. Frey are permanent visiting professors at the University of Basel and research directors at the Center for Research in Economics, Management and the Arts (Crema), Zurich.


is the RKI-Exzessfactor a symbol for competence ?




or impotence ?


Quarantaene 1918 : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5783446%2Fschulschliessungen-1918-als-die-spanische-grippe-grassierte (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5783446%2Fschulschliessungen-1918-als-die-spanische-grippe-grassierte)


Using the example of the two cities of St. Louis and Pittsburgh, he shows the differences: While in St. Louis shortly before the peak of the epidemic at the time - the investigation period included the second and parts of the third wave of Spanish flu in the USA - schools for 143 Days closed, was locked in Pittsburgh for seven days only seven days after the peak. St. Louis had around a third of Pittsburgh's death rate.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iITFrcNLcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iITFrcNLcA)  for up to experienced 143 days 8)





And which were the registred griepe/flu deaths numbers in Spain 2015/2016 - 2016/2017 - 2017/2018 - 2018/2019               + Exzessfactor 15x   ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2020, 02:21:20 AM
Date ?


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dw.com%2Fde%2Farzt-li-wenliang-posthum-ein-nationalheld%2Fa-52291355 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dw.com%2Fde%2Farzt-li-wenliang-posthum-ein-nationalheld%2Fa-52291355)




Date ?


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FItalien-bekommt-das-Virus-nicht-in-den-Griff-article21672455.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FItalien-bekommt-das-Virus-nicht-in-den-Griff-article21672455.html)


December,November,October  2019 ?




       Events in Italy,journey from and to Italy ? Soccer-Clube-Championship ,.......... JUVE not Senex


                                                                    UEFA Championsleague


                                                                    UEFA Europaleague




                                                                    italian Supercup ::) Finale,Oh-Oh : Ryad,Medina,Mekka  come and go


             ein Volk voll von Gollums : Moratorium,Monitoring




           For all maskulin/male international un-/important politicians : the german male-hino
         
           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJNMkEr1Ls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJNMkEr1Ls)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 27, 2020, 04:33:45 PM
In the news...
America just became the world leader of the global coronavirus pandemic leading everyone in the number of infected people including China and Italy, tRump just keeps winning. The virus just got started in the U.S. and already it's out of control while tRump is telling everyone to calm down and continues playing petty politics. Equally screwed up is Wilbur Ross basically saying the coronavirus death and destruction could boost U.S. jobs... oh my.

tRump also mentioned deploying 1000 troops along the U.S./Canada border which I think is an awesome idea. I would go even further and build a huge beautiful wall to keep all those war mongering, gun toting, crack smoking Americans the hell out of Canada. We don't need all those bad hombres and gangs coming into Canada. Apparently the Americans never clued into the fact that the walls were not to keep others out but them in, Adolf Hitler ring any bells?.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2020, 06:06:52 PM
I can think,but this is not official representive !  ::)


So I let other speak and write their opinion :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachdenkseiten.de%2F%3Fp%3D59617 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachdenkseiten.de%2F%3Fp%3D59617)


For urgent questions, scientists who have proven themselves in the past should actually be consulted.However, that is exactly where I want to express criticism.


You often take exactly the people who have been wrong in the past and some of whom you also know are interested.At that time, the Robert Koch Institute had a negative impact on swine flu.In other policy areas, such as the pension debate, even highly stressed people who have been proven to have massive mistakes and interests may appear again as so-called experts.Here I almost feel sick when I think of the negative social consequences.Here the cleanliness of the advisory institutions must be checked and taken as a basis for decision-making."Once you lie, you don't believe that," is already known in the vernacular.By this I do not mean mistakes I admit myself.It happens to everyone, but then honestly please.


Da habe ich mir an den Kopf gefasst und mich gefragt: Was ist das nur für ein Unwissender.

Wrong translated !
" I touched my head and asked myself: What kind of ignorant person is that? " 


" I touched my head and asked myself:  what an idiot !"  Unwissender = ( ever : ) Idiot




Speaking as Professor professional about "Lothar Wiehler/RKI " and his professional qualities




https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?page_id=5 (https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?page_id=5) wer steckt hinter der Seite ?  8)   Prof.Schiller´s team ghostwriter? eine linke "Amigo-AfD-APO"-initiative
                                                                                                                                                                   ( jetzt werden einige nachdenk  ;D  lich )

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 27, 2020, 06:47:26 PM
Relax
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 27, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
Verpies

Statistics are wonderful... so long as only the bad ones happen to someone else.

Thus many have this strange belief that only good statistics would happen to them and bad ones only to others. As they say, the chances of dying in a commercial jet are a million to one but there one in one if your on that one in a million jet. I think statistics are misguided in a sense because most do not encompass enough variables which change the odds exponentially one way or another. Like in nature one small deviation can snowball producing a chain reaction of events most never even considered.

Most do not like to talk about these things because there ego must try to remain in control to satisfy there false sense of security in a world which was always out of control. There be a shit storm on the horizon ladies... you best buckle up.



Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2020, 08:49:04 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSankt-Florian-Prinzip (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSankt-Florian-Prinzip)


statistics is : to make things/casualities transparent



Georges-Louis Leclerc  Comte de Buffon + Sir Francis Galton works


 + Monte Carlo operation    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMonte-Carlo-Simulation (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMonte-Carlo-Simulation)             :


Roulette (developped by Duque de Laplace, 1. Lottery,ABSOLUTISM )


"break the bank" : 18 pair /0/18 impair = 37 cases


Invest- risc/lost-budget


1 trial :          10 units stake pair  win or lost ?                     win =20-10= +10                                     lost= budget -10


if lost 2.trial : 20 units stake pair  win or lost                       win=40-10 1 trial - 10 2 trial = 20              lost= budget -20


........


After each win beginning new "lowest risk cycle"


stake limit ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_total_probability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_total_probability)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRegression_zur_Mitte (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRegression_zur_Mitte)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 27, 2020, 08:57:49 PM
Still you can't take life too seriously since no one ever gets out alive.

Any way Verpies know any one who knows the viruses resonant frequency
we could localy kill it and spoil things.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 27, 2020, 10:09:09 PM
Any way Verpies know any one who knows the viruses resonant frequency
I do not know it, but it would have to be pretty high because the virus has a very small mass and size (100nm).  A quick calculation tells us, that in order to get the 100nm wavelength in water, you need a 15MHz vibration.

On a related note, recently I got my tooth infected (most likely by bacteria) but all the dentists are closed nowadays.  Arrrggghhh!
I tried tetracycline and azithromycin, that I had obtained for the pandemic, but with no relief from the pain.

Out of desperation I programmed my frequency generator to do a slow FM sweep from 20kHz to 3.5MHz connected to a wideband 1W ultrasonic transducer through my HV amplifier and stuck it in my mouth filled with water.  It helped quite quickly!

I'd like to note, that I skipped the frequencies, which were causing me pain during the FM sweep.  These probably were the frequencies, which evoked some mechanical resonances of my teeth, inner ear and other anatomical structures.  These are painful and probably do more harm than good (they are very individual, too).

I do not know which frequency exactly was effective because I tried almost all that my transducer was capable of.  Desperate times call for desperate measures.



P.S.
For those that do not have programmable signal generators, HV amps and wideband transducers, I suggest just buying an ultrasonic toothbrush, filling your mouth with water and vibrating away...  maybe you'll get lucky.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 27, 2020, 11:08:31 PM
This is a must see for all scientists here:
https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs

https://youtu.be/2UdtKssU7po
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 28, 2020, 05:24:01 AM
Ray
Quote
Any way Verpies know any one who knows the viruses resonant frequency
we could localy kill it and spoil things.

I did a great deal of research on the Rife technology years ago and always wanted to try to replicate some of his work. Based on what I know now I think he was credible and was decades ahead of his time. However there is a trillion dollar industry that hopes his work will never see the light of day.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: vineet_kiran on March 28, 2020, 09:53:53 AM
Do electrons neutralize viruses?
https://www.news18.com/news/india/bengaluru-scientist-claims-new-medical-device-can-neutralise-coronavirus-will-be-sent-to-us-to-test-2553215.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 10:23:30 AM
Coronaviridae
-Morphology
  RNA : positive polarisation
Probably a help : Roger D. Komberg and Patrick Cramer work


Ionophorese
Dr.med Kazumi Masaki ( r.i.p.) low-frequency electrotherapeutic device US5133351

hydrotherapy body internal metabolism physiotherapy
Self medication is here a great health risc,hidden pneumonie and with lung function capacity losts  !
 Tip : read about pneumonia
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Johan_1955 on March 28, 2020, 11:14:15 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrk5NPTZNEI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrk5NPTZNEI)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 11:46:33 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrk5NPTZNEI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrk5NPTZNEI)


Questionable !?


https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/10/driverless-cars-the-life-and-death-dilemma-who-dies-and-who-lives.html (https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/10/driverless-cars-the-life-and-death-dilemma-who-dies-and-who-lives.html)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics)




How much time invest to think about it ? How would I-he/she/it decide/-s ?!


Am I relevant : for my/their life /                    for my/their system ?






Global ethics teste with/-out individual/common approbation solution !


https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisma (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisma) I from myself ? You from yourself ? I from my goods/bads ?   You from your goods/bads ?


One advantage from this " artificial panic pandemia ":we see the physical change from the society work process architecture and methods
Something planned for the next 2 decades accelerated or compressed in 2 weeks : ZEITRAFFER

Living by sociology standarts/class-category: with consumption quarantaene and without

minimum-optimum : existentiel

medium : culture ( " belt ", indication/signal for social class membership/participation )

pessimum-maximum :luxus ( from the name : Lucullus)



1 life on 1 planet

We know that the expression " Heroes( pl./male) and Heroines(pl./female)is today cheap,experienced by each fly when -  for their common work minimum - pilotes get applause

Commercial flying is not an "Himmelfahrtskommando" !
I do not applause the driver/pilot after using public trains or busses or taxis  ! ;)   

By the entrance/exit in future an "hat": for drop in a " bakschisch" ? ;D and "pilot" thanking : "Vergelts Gott !"

But : these actual "Hero and Heroina"- service professions are morbide professions : ROBOTICS  !
Hospitals,supermarkets,parliaments,gouvernments,churches,......... !

Daddy at home after dinner : And now the hat onto the middle of the table : I bought the "alimentation" !
         Dear family,show me the -my- compensation value !

Mother : " I cooked and served this alimentation !" and put her hat onto the middle !My compensation value ?

The grands,the childs ,.....

The Queen of Saaba her dilemma [Nathan ( or was it Salomon )drastic  solution] and Thomas de Aquino "fair recompensation"?

We are actually in an undefined mental war-situation with multiple "shoa(jewish in latin letters) ~ destruction(latin/english)" potentials !
The "virus" and the epidemy( WHO meaning pandemy) is one problem,but we have hundreds and more other problems in our little world


Wieviele Senioren "hungern",obwohl fuer diese die Rente ausreicht,die Seniorengesellschaft in Spanien und Italien ,als Beispiel,welche ihe Kinder/Enkel finanziell unterstuetzt,weil es der Staat - das Budget- nicht tut !

           Senioren-Stipendiate/Donation
Studienzeit finanziert,oder dass das fehlende Einkommen der Empfaenger  kurz-/mittel-fristig etwas angehoben wird,auf Ueberlebens-/Existenz-Niveau : Papier-"Armuts-Grenze" !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 28, 2020, 09:25:51 PM

Is the Corona-"pandemie" dangerous ? Yes,like all virus-infections with bacteriologic "cooperation" means superinfection with pneumonia risc also known like SIRS or SARS


But,for statistical numbers understanding here as example , as base the actuall austrian flu virus season observation :

https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/wissenschaft-forschung/virus-epidemiologie/influenza-projekt-diagnostisches-influenzanetzwerk-oesterreich-dinoe/aktuelle-saison-20192020/ (https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/wissenschaft-forschung/virus-epidemiologie/influenza-projekt-diagnostisches-influenzanetzwerk-oesterreich-dinoe/aktuelle-saison-20192020/)


for calendar weeks 40 (2019) to calendar week 11 (2020)

https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/influenza_oesterreich_2019-2020.jpg (https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/influenza_oesterreich_2019-2020.jpg)

for some counties the flu quasi inexistent :
https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/influenza_bundesland_2019-2020.jpg (https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/influenza_bundesland_2019-2020.jpg)




and
fast infection registration numbers
https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/ILI_Inzidenz_2019-2020.jpg (https://www.virologie.meduniwien.ac.at/fileadmin/virologie/files/DINOe/ILI_Inzidenz_2019-2020.jpg)




now the actual spanish Corona-virus infection numbers per province :

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020/03/16/actualidad/1584379038_891570.html (https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020/03/16/actualidad/1584379038_891570.html)

for age class infection rate and mortality

https://elpais.com/infografias/2020/02/coronavirus-europa/estaticos/edad-espana/edad-espana-escritorio.jpg?v=8600 (https://elpais.com/infografias/2020/02/coronavirus-europa/estaticos/edad-espana/edad-espana-escritorio.jpg?v=8600)



from 0 age up to 59 years
9891 infection with 37 death cases


from 60 age to 79 years
6048 infections and 227 death cases


over 80
3020 infection cases and 541 death cases




what does me wondering : the low lethality quote


https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/de/veroeffentlichungen/nachrichten/covid-19-wo-ist-die-evidenz (https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/de/veroeffentlichungen/nachrichten/covid-19-wo-ist-die-evidenz)


but going back to "spanish flu 1918/1919"


https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/de/veroeffentlichungen/nachrichten/covid-19-wo-ist-die-evidenz (https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/de/veroeffentlichungen/nachrichten/covid-19-wo-ist-die-evidenz)



Effectiveness of non-pharmacological interventions (NPI)


At this point, the currently practiced and contemplated measures of "social distancing" are to be discussed, ie state interventions from the closure of educational institutions to a complete curfew.


The different reactions of American cities to the 1918 influenza pandemic are cited as a historical example of the effectiveness of NPI. While in St. Louis three days after the first cases of influenza occurred, drastic measures were already taken to curb the spread (closure of schools, churches, theaters, bars, cancellation of public events, etc.), a large one continued in Philadelphia after the outbreak City parade carried out and effective containment measures only implemented two weeks later [13]. The consequences were dramatic: the death rate in St. Louis peaked at 31 / 100,000, while in Philadelphia it rose to 257 / 100,000, resulting in a collapse in health care. The total number of deaths with 347 / 100,000 inhabitants in St. Louis was about half of Philadelphia (719 / 100,000 inhabitants) [13]. It is completely unclear whether the experiences from the 1918/19 influenza pandemic can be transferred to COVID-19. The fact that at that time mainly young people were affected with regard to the deaths and that neither hygiene standards nor medical care in 1918/19 are comparable to today speaks more against transferability.


                                                                  719/100000
                                                     much but not a virologic genozid


Surprising does me the statistical statement ; flu was mainly to find between 20-40 years age class
compared to geral life expectance 1918/1919 f.e. Espanha


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDemografie_Spaniens%23Lebenserwartung_von_1882_bis_2015 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDemografie_Spaniens%23Lebenserwartung_von_1882_bis_2015)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demografie_Spaniens#Lebenserwartung_von_1882_bis_2015 (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demografie_Spaniens#Lebenserwartung_von_1882_bis_2015)




                                                    +-  3000/100000 inhabitants geral mortal rate per annum 1900-1920 Spain/Espanha




organ " lung" ( with pneumonie risc ) as microbiom :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.morgenpost.de%2Fratgeber%2Farticle214817225%2FLungenentzuendung-30-000-Tote-jedes-Jahr-in-Deutschland.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.morgenpost.de%2Fratgeber%2Farticle214817225%2FLungenentzuendung-30-000-Tote-jedes-Jahr-in-Deutschland.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 05:43:49 PM
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/17-22-Grossbritannien-Beschraenkungen-noch-wesentlich-laenger--article21626512.html (https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/17-22-Grossbritannien-Beschraenkungen-noch-wesentlich-laenger--article21626512.html)


+++ 16:50 Fauci: "Bis zu 200.000 Tote in den USA denkbar" +++"Millionen von Amerikanern werden mit dem Coronavirus infiziert werden und 100.000 bis 200.000 werden sterben." Diese Prognose stammt von Anthony Fauci, dem führenden Infektionsexperten der US-Regierung. Der Direktor des Nationalen Instituts für Allergien und Infektionskrankheiten (NIAID) trat am Sonntag in der CNN-Sendung "State of the Union" auf. Fauci, der der Corona-Taskforce des Weißen Hauses angehört, erklärte weiter, dass derzeit etwa 56 Prozent aller Neuinfektionen des Landes aus dem Gebiet von New York City kommen. Dennoch habe die Taskforce US-Präsident Trump geraten, keine Quarantäne für New York auszusprechen. Zwar wolle niemand, "dass Menschen aus diesem Gebiet in andere Gebiete des Landes reisen und unbeabsichtigt andere Personen infizieren", sagte Fauci. "Wir sind aber der Meinung, dass dies besser durch eine Beratung als durch eine sehr strenge Quarantäne erreicht werden kann". Der Präsident habe dieser Auffassung zugestimmt. In den USA gibt es zur Stunde etwa 125.000 Infektionen und 2.200 Todesfälle.



+++ 16:50 Fauci: "Up to 200,000 dead in the United States conceivable" +++"Millions of Americans will be infected with the corona virus and 100,000 to 200,000 will die." This forecast comes from Anthony Fauci, the United States government's leading infection expert. The director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) appeared on the CNN program "State of the Union" on Sunday. Fauci, a member of the White House Corona Task Force, said that about 56 percent of all new infections in the country currently come from the New York City area. However, the task force advised US President Trump not to issue a quarantine for New York. Nobody wants "that people from this area travel to other areas of the country and accidentally infect other people," said Fauci. "However, we believe that this can be achieved better through advice than through a very strict quarantine". The President agreed with this view. There are approximately 125,000 infections and 2,200 deaths per hour in the United States.


by officially 330 mio (in)habitants in the U.S.A.  this epidemiologic/pandemiologic preview  means 100 000 to 200 000 / 330 000 000 ratio






                                                                                  30/100000 to 60/100000


  What does this means ? geral life expectance from US citizen does not change more than 1 month  !                                                         



100 000 representing 1 average life = +- 79 years(male and female)


- 30/ up to 60/100000 as partial life diminuation risc less


- geral death cases age class diminuation risc ( drugs,weapon,health service,traffic,...)




when 100 000 =  79    years


then    10 000 =   7,9  years


then       1000 =   0,8  years  or 9,5 months

then         100 =  0,08 years or  1 month


then           60


or              30


                                                                   CONCLUSION


So instead 79 years geral life expectancy there will be a diminuation statistical to 78,9 years in average



Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 29, 2020, 06:05:00 PM
Lanca quote .There are approximately 125,000 infections and 2,200 deaths per hour in the United States.end quote
2200 total deaths not per hour [as of this writing
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
2200 deaths as actual total "Corona-infection"-related number for the USA !


16:50 pm german time = +- 9:00 am New York






Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 06:23:05 PM
Umm
  //your deaths per hour is showing ??[total deaths to date in US 2200 ??I hope you are not psychic 

 
...Lanca quote "There are approximately 125,000 infections and 2,200 deaths per hour in the United States.


hope you are not psychic  8)


I looked after and so the "google translator" translation mistake : german "zur Stunde" means "at this hour/actually" and not "per hour" !


+++ 16:50 Fauci: "Bis zu 200.000 Tote in den USA denkbar" +++"Millionen von Amerikanern werden mit dem Coronavirus infiziert werden und 100.000 bis 200.000 werden sterben." Diese Prognose stammt von Anthony Fauci, dem führenden Infektionsexperten der US-Regierung. Der Direktor des Nationalen Instituts für Allergien und Infektionskrankheiten (NIAID) trat am Sonntag in der CNN-Sendung "State of the Union" auf. Fauci, der der Corona-Taskforce des Weißen Hauses angehört, erklärte weiter, dass derzeit etwa 56 Prozent aller Neuinfektionen des Landes aus dem Gebiet von New York City kommen. Dennoch habe die Taskforce US-Präsident Trump geraten, keine Quarantäne für New York auszusprechen. Zwar wolle niemand, "dass Menschen aus diesem Gebiet in andere Gebiete des Landes reisen und unbeabsichtigt andere Personen infizieren", sagte Fauci. "Wir sind aber der Meinung, dass dies besser durch eine Beratung als durch eine sehr strenge Quarantäne erreicht werden kann". Der Präsident habe dieser Auffassung zugestimmt. In den USA gibt es zur Stunde etwa 125.000 Infektionen und 2.200 Todesfälle.


+++ 16:50 Fauci: "Up to 200,000 dead in the United States conceivable" +++"Millions of Americans will be infected with the corona virus and 100,000 to 200,000 will die." This forecast comes from Anthony Fauci, the United States government's leading infection expert. The director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) appeared on the CNN program "State of the Union" on Sunday. Fauci, a member of the White House Corona Task Force, said that about 56 percent of all new infections in the country currently come from the New York City area. However, the task force advised US President Trump not to issue a quarantine for New York. Nobody wants "that people from this area travel to other areas of the country and accidentally infect other people," said Fauci. "However, we believe that this can be achieved better through advice than through a very strict quarantine". The President agreed with this view. There are approximately 125,000 infections and 2,200 deaths per hour in the United States.


Hmm,ramset,whom you trust more : alphabet or me ?  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 29, 2020, 06:32:15 PM
yes an error in your translation....hardware ...also
Here Hydroxychloroquine is in very big demand and family members who had prescriptions for  rheumatoid arthritismedications can not get refills [which have this hydroxyChloroquine  as ingredient..

will be contacting that Dr on Monday who treated many [500 plus now ??] in lung distress and healed every single one ..westchester suburb of NYC [where first people had perished in NYC area
Verpies had mentioned if Drugs can be put in aerosol [inhaled instead of oral] 500 times smaller dose ...same effect/treatment ..not sure about antibiotic tho
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 06:36:33 PM
not in my translation


this is an error of "alphabet translation software"


Do not trust either  "simple" software nor "fuzzy logic software"-a.i. self-learning software : es ist "lebendige" nanomaterie

Experience and "surprising"  knowledge from the 80´ :


the virtual Delta-bird experiment from Bio-Analytics to  K.I.-Analytics

es mag spielen,so wie ich  ::) :)


es wirkt aehnlich dem "Monte Carlo"-Zufallsprinzip,aber mit mehr Freiheitsgraden


Peace games instead War games
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 29, 2020, 08:03:50 PM
 Quote from: PhysicsProf on Today at 15:21:28 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3885.msg80685#msg80685)     Question regarding hydroxychloroquine + anti-biotics --  does this work against coronavirus? 
I seek a scientific answer, not a "politically correct" answer.


Verpies responce Quote
It is a leading question. The plus sign suggests that hydroxychloroquine somehow potentiates antibiotics.  It doesn't.

There is only one antibiotic that independently impedes the replication of the SARS-CoV-2, the Azithromycin.
...and Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are merely ionophores that facilitate the transport of Zinc 2+ ions across the bilipid walls of human cells.
It is these Zinc 2+ ions that are responsible for the inhibition of the viral Replicase (RdRP). So the best results are achieved by first opening the ionophores with Hydroxychloquine followed by Zinc ion supplementation by inhalation 4h later.

You can find references to scientific papers about this, e.g. in video #32 and subsequent ones on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 08:15:22 PM
A question is :


Corona-infection ?


Yes or no !?


Corona infection yes, "light symptoms" (!?) or strong up to SARS stage !?


When SARS-stage then we have the superinfection case : by which Corona-virus and bacterium(bacillus)/fungi cooperation ?


There is not and will be never one "universal anti-bioticum" exist !


Each SARS case is pathologic a special case with appropriate solution search in kind of appropriate anti-biotica !


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotikum (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotikum)


 In Deutschland sind 2005 laut BfArM (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesinstitut_f%C3%BCr_Arzneimittel_und_Medizinprodukte) insgesamt 2.775 Antibiotikapräparate zugelassen. 1987 hatten 10 bis 15 dieser Präparate einen Marktanteil von etwa vier Fünftel des Gesamtumsatzes. Im Jahr 1997 betrug der Anteil des Penicillins 9 %.

According to the BfArM, a total of 2,775 antibiotic preparations were approved in Germany in 2005. In 1987, 10 to 15 of these preparations had a market share of around four fifths of the total turnover. In 1997 the percentage of penicillin was 9%.

https://www.infektio.de/antiinfektiva/neueinf%C3%BChrungen-kurzbeschreibungen/chloroquin-hydroxychloro/ (https://www.infektio.de/antiinfektiva/neueinf%C3%BChrungen-kurzbeschreibungen/chloroquin-hydroxychloro/)

What me interests is the hard cases the patients  their " blood profile" : related  "Eisenmangel" and Haemoglobin


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FH%25C3%25A4moglobin (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FH%25C3%25A4moglobin)


this is an original translation and I do not correct orthografical and sinn translation errors by software systematic






https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: e2matrix on March 29, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
A CURE:
I've used this several times over the last dozen years or so.   It works.   Originally discovered by Jim Humble to cure the malaria he got it is powerful in killing off all sorts of pathogens including many types of virus and even many cancers.   It cured me of a serious infection from a Tic byte - most probably Lyme disease.  So why is it not being discussed as a cure by mainstream medicine?   Because it is super cheap to make, cannot be patented and can be easily made from common sourced items.   

Although it is best to buy it as MMS solution with the separate acetic acid it is still incredibly cheap.   When this first came out Jim Humble gave his book on it away for free.   He has never sold the product himself as he did not want people to think he is peddling snake oil.   Initially there were nothing but positive info on MMS but when the Big Pharma got wind of how many things it could cure cheaply the propaganda machine went into full force spreading lies and false info.   So if you google it you may see negative press.   Ignor it.   I believe it is totally safe taken as directed as I've used it without any problems and with great benefit.   

Jim Humble was driven out of the U.S. and in order to keep telling people about this miracle he formed the Church of Healing - not that he is any sort of religious fanatic - but only to legally protect himself from the powers that be who want to imprison him and this life saving information.  See his website.  Links to places you can still buy this.   Note sellers need to be very discrete in what they claim and don't claim as some have already been put in jail.   

Note that the current mainstream focus for a cure for coronavirus hydroxychloroquine is also an anti-malarial just like MMS.   At one point Jim Humble contacted Bill Gates since Gates has been big in pushing a vacine for malaria but Gates ignored that Humble had a CURE for malaria.   


https://jimhumble.co
https://jimhumble.co/blog/a-word-on-coronavirus
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Raycathode on March 29, 2020, 08:23:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I10P5tMLlI
watch this video all the way through!
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 29, 2020, 09:30:48 PM
https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Zahl-der-Infizierten-in-Italien-steigt-langsamer-article21676481.html (https://www.n-tv.de/infografik/Zahl-der-Infizierten-in-Italien-steigt-langsamer-article21676481.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FZahl-der-Infizierten-in-Italien-steigt-langsamer-article21676481.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FZahl-der-Infizierten-in-Italien-steigt-langsamer-article21676481.html)


               (in)habitants from italian regions  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italienische_Regionen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italienische_Regionen) 2008 ( we are : March 2020)


                                                                                                                             Corona-infection

                                                                                                                             death/habitants ratio


Lombardei                        9,67 mio                           6360 deaths                                   1/6360


Emilia-Romagna                4,29 mio                           1443 deaths                                   1/2972


Piemont                            4,40 mio                            684 deaths                                    1/3049


 Venetien                          4,85 mio                             392 deaths                                    1/12372


Toskana                            3,69 mio                             215 deaths                                    1/17162


Marken                             1,56 mio                             386 deaths                                    1/4041


Latium                              5,56 mio                             136 deaths                                    1/40882


Ligurien                            1,61 mio                              377 deaths                                    1/4270


Kampanien                        5,81 mio                              117 deaths                                    1/49658


Apulien                             4,08 mio                                86 deaths                                    1/47441


Sizilien                              5,03 mio                               65 deaths                                     1/77384






          next step :                     by given data                                               separation : a.  < 60 years and > 60 years


                                                                                                                                    b.   with/-out Pre-existing illness






                                                italian region 






 emergency hospital beds/ respiratory machine  number  /           COVID19-SARS  cases




https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html)


Table 1: Estimated Influenza Disease Burden, by Season — United States, 2010-11 through 2018-19 Influenza Seasons


Alternatively :


the oficial registred flu infection death number multiplicated by Robert Koch-Institute "Exzessfaktor 15x"






2017/2018 USA worst case flu infection death estimation number 95 000 cases


would compareable mean for China Corona-season 2019/2020 : region Hubei(with city Wuhan) with 59 mio habitants = 16980 death cases


 as worst case estimation and


for China : with 1400 mio habitants as worst case estimation : > 400 000 death cases

https://interaktiv.ikz-online.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/ (https://interaktiv.ikz-online.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/)           Hubei     29.03.2020     3182      oficial registred death cases








 


But have we in future to define numbers in correlation their function as young numbers,middle aged numbers and old numbers,when we treat young up to old citizen of our society ?

Statistical humans representive numbers with scalar and vector,for age and sexus  ?


And never forget during your life : be (coarse) humo(u)rfull ! https://apps-cloud.n-tv.de/img/20868647-1575007861000/o/1536/1536/Homeoffice.jpg (https://apps-cloud.n-tv.de/img/20868647-1575007861000/o/1536/1536/Homeoffice.jpg)


Vorsicht Rind und Schweine,riecht nach "Helter Skelter"  :P
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 30, 2020, 12:45:37 AM
A CURE:
I've used this several times over the last dozen years or so.   It works. 
Dude! Concentrated Chlorine Dioxide is so toxic it will kill anything alive.
If you take it internally and you are stronger than the pathogen, then ClO2 will kill it and leave you alive ...albeit less healthy.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 02:09:35 AM
https://docserv.uni-duesseldorf.de/servlets/DerivateServlet/Derivate-39124/Dissertation%20L.%20Lindner.pdf (https://docserv.uni-duesseldorf.de/servlets/DerivateServlet/Derivate-39124/Dissertation%20L.%20Lindner.pdf)


SARS1-Covid lethality average 10% of infected cases
             
                                 but        50% of infected cases with age >65




Question :                      these 50% deaths


        under controle -hospitalized/old peoples´s home-


        or alone in their homes ?



                                       
       the hospitals equipped with enough intensive treatment beds and ARDS-symptoms neutralizing equipment related peak patients numbers  ?


       If the risc for this age class is such high then only isolation is not enough but also an emergency call-phone near their body ( acting by hand,voice ! )





      "alexa"-similar  seniors health observation system

     
      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobil-bleiben.de%2Fhilfsmittel%2Fnotrufsysteme%2Farten-von-notrufsystemen%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobil-bleiben.de%2Fhilfsmittel%2Fnotrufsysteme%2Farten-von-notrufsystemen%2F)



      and fast experienced/professional reaction-by-call capacity as ambulant  "emergency crew"


     https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Fkrankheiten%2Fblutvergiftung%2Fseptischer-schock%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Fkrankheiten%2Fblutvergiftung%2Fseptischer-schock%2F)


     By eliminating the source of infection, doctors are trying to help the patient's body fight the infection.Nevertheless, about 60 percent of all patients die from this disease.
     
     The prognosis deteriorates because most patients had a weakened immune system before the septic shock.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 30, 2020, 03:16:01 AM
It is my opinion this information could save lives.HCQ or Hydro[xy]chloroquine [ingredient in Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis and Malaria meds]]
can be converted to Aerosol form for inhaling  [much better for applying to areas
effected by Virus [respiratory system]this conversion will allow 200MG pill to treat more persons.

place 200MG pill into 100CC distilled water ,let dissolve while stirring... pour dissolved mixture thru a coffee filter into 2000CC distilled water... mix thoroughly ...load 10CC [approx] into a cold ultrasonic inhaler [NOT a thermal one] and breathe medication.
Important addendum HCQ is ineffective on persons deficient in ZINC "//  preferable zinc supplementation ROA is zinc acetate by inhalation 4 hours after the HCQ
//
// Zinc acetate ?  QuotePure zinc metal dissolved in pure acetic acid yields zinc acetate. The acetate ion is quite mild.
 
 
 
 Ultrasonic Vaping is a good route of administration if it is diluted 1:10000 or more.
 Thermal Vaping is not so good because its high temperature renders the chemicals more reactive and irritating and will decompose others such as the hydroxychloroquine. azithromycin and nicotianamine.
 
 
 Also if medicines made into aerosol form ...dose size 500 times smaller than oral dosing
 end quote
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: e2matrix on March 30, 2020, 05:57:02 AM
Dude! Concentrated Chlorine Dioxide is so toxic it will kill anything alive.
If you take it internally and you are stronger than the pathogen, then ClO2 will kill it and leave you alive ...albeit less healthy.
If it was true that it would leave you less healthy I have never noticed that.  Always felt better but given the choice of being less healthy or dead I'll take less healthy.  In my opinion you will be a lot more healthy without the coronavirus  ;)   The MMS is taken in extremely small amounts (1 drop initially in most cases) which are out of your system in a very short amount of time - which is why you have to take it every hour during the day.   
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 30, 2020, 06:23:11 AM
I should add that Stefan had also mentioned this a few weeks back [I think it was the same stiff] however finding data to support a claim seems hard to find .
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 03:13:38 PM
Prophylaxe : hidrolinfa/hydro-Linfa et cet.



Such "systems" sold here in Portugal for 1000 Euros 2007 ,one "enerciencia"- associate built for 100 Euros the electronic parts and for 30 Euros the hipermarket massage-bath : were sold as " hydrolife",this all then in an " expensive" looking suit-case,okay : semi- hand work

www.hidrolinfa.pt (http://www.hidrolinfa.pt) it seems somebody is working like and by 2007 "strategy"

But for commercial production such devices for therapeutic use need  estatal institutions approvement  !
Buying approved electronic parts in a shop and doing the montage is actually - without tests and certification-illegal !
And not for "cosmetics institute" use ! This is a medical instrument  !
Rife + frequency : frequency + liquid : percutan body treatment

Not " enerciencia"- product,but from associates their " mylife"- Lda./Limited
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: AlienGrey on March 30, 2020, 05:26:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T9vlpC0bRo
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
What he said and explained is 100% acceptable,also by no conspiracy !






At first : we know that the most countries in our world has their research bio-hazard laboratories,for military and medical pro action / and counter reaction development  !



We also know that in this labs employees becomed infected ( Marburg,....) and by bad air conditioning microbes or virus/fungi escaped from their isolation ( by accident and less sabotage )






At last : in his last seconds he spoke the reality : " ....... much ...." ,

when 100% = all what he means with " all= much + X "

Who is responsible for X  ?










wmbr
OCWL









p.s. :  entrance into bird/mouse : mutation generation same ? 

         bird/mouse to cat : in cat mutation generation same ?
        cat to human : in human mutation generation same ?


        that is what virologists are doing day by day : detectives of dangers/riscs or potential pro-/anti viral / biotics
        Multiresistent micro- climate
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 30, 2020, 06:27:18 PM
Head of ICU Ventilator unit Manhattan hospital

No reason to fear Covid if you do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ
actually very good to watch...

 
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 06:45:30 PM
ramset : No !
You are health

You are  " new Corona-virus"  infected

You have to report the case  and receive help/teste kit and later 1./2.?/3.?  teste/s result

You have to stay in quarantane = superspreader potential

Average 20% ( ≥ 65 age :50% and more) of all "new Corona virus infection" cases :
You are as infectant in risk of " Covid (19) = Corona virus disease = SARS " with life danger

There can also be in the 0-10 age class 50% and more Covid(19) = SARS cases ,chronicle risc group
With non diagnostic diseases ! But genetical,or not expected by parents !

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 30, 2020, 07:09:59 PM
Lanca....As they say in the BIG HOUSE [prison]"You do you"
Here some useful [not uesful] news from the front lines
“We’re probably using the hydroxychloroquine recipe in some way shape or form in about three-quarters of our patients right now,” Varga said.

also pretreating caregivers with recipe.
again Head of ICU Ventilator unit Manhattan hospital

No reason to fear Covid if you do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ)
actually very good to watch...
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 30, 2020, 07:22:29 PM
The most recent studies found the Coronavirus has a low probability of being able to go airborne beyond 6 feet. Note this is a no wind, stagnant air probability and if the air flow is not zero it could theoretically travel city blocks. So this absurd notion that no real precautions are needed being peddled by imbeciles who don't live in the real world needs to stop.

I know this because I have done extensive research in advanced air flow when designing wind turbines using solid works flow and real world testing. Any number of droplets could easily get caught up in any vortex shed from a building corner and end up being lifted damn near anywhere beyond a few city blocks. Every city is a worse case scenario because it is effectively turbulent air capable of dispersing droplets everywhere. Go to an average building on the front corner or windward side and throw some light material like 1mm Styrofoam balls in the air. It will turn the corner to the leeward side, get caught in the vortex present and go vertical... it's a shit show.


What people can't seem to get through there thick skull is that any grouping of people outside a controlled setting is a lesson in stupidity. It's in the air, on surfaces, on people and basically everywhere and now they say some people can carry the virus for up to a week with no symptoms.

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 08:43:13 PM
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/22-14-Virus-Papst-fordert-zwei-Wochen-Corona-Ferien--article21622722.html (https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/22-14-Virus-Papst-fordert-zwei-Wochen-Corona-Ferien--article21622722.html)



+++ 21:01 researchers: virus mutated and is now more dangerous for humans +++




A recent Chinese study comes to the conclusion that there could be two virus strains in the novel lung disease. An older type of virus has meanwhile mutated into a type of pathogen that is more contagious and therefore more dangerous for humans. This newly developed virus type is responsible for 70 percent of the recently reported cases. The researchers are encouraging further studies to find out whether the different course of the disease - sometimes milder and sometimes more severe in symptoms - could also be related to the two strains.


Xiaolu Tang from Peking University and his colleagues published their research status in the "National Science Review", a journal of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. The team examined discrepancies between Sars-CoV-2 and other coronaviruses from the same family, including those found in bats.


They came across two variants of Sars-CoV-2, which are supposed to represent two stages in the evolution of the virus. "Genetic analyzes of 103 SARS-CoV-2 genomes show that these viruses have developed into two main types (labeled L and S)," the researchers wrote. First, the French newspaper "Nouvel Observateur" reported about it.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 30, 2020, 09:11:48 PM
two ? ? link from Verpies last week
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 30, 2020, 09:19:30 PM
If it was true that it would leave you less healthy I have never noticed that.
Your biased self observation is not much of an argument.  Chlorine Dioxide is a simple non-selective powerful oxidizing agent. As such it disrupts most biochemical pathways.  I know of many toxic chemical compounds that work like that, but I would never tell people to ingest them even in small quantities ...just because they kill some germs but do not kill you immediately.

Learn what a Therapeutic Index  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_index)is before you go any further with this.

Below is a video that explores the chemistry of Chlorine Dioxide.  It is not for you since you have apparently made up your mind already and are immune to reason:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uHcDOyVqvTHR/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/uHcDOyVqvTHR/)


Stefan, if you are reading this, according to the German law you will be liable for promotion of usage of any toxic and explosive chemicals on this site:
This is how Chlorine Dioxide is classified in Germany ( the legend is here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFPA_704) ):



Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2020, 09:25:00 PM

2 strains division to now 8 strains :


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/27/scientists-track-coronavirus-strains-mutation/5080571002/ (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/27/scientists-track-coronavirus-strains-mutation/5080571002/)




                              8vX            where X is the superinfection-partner diversivity




                                but slow infection spread





                                                       Shelter in place working in California


Chiu’s analysis shows California’s strict shelter in place efforts appear to be working.

Over half of the 50 SARS-CoV-2 virus genomes his San Francisco-based lab sequenced in the past two weeks are associated with travel from outside the state.
 Another 30% are associated with health care workers and families of people who have the virus.
“Only 20% are coming from within the community. It’s not circulating widely,” he said.



That’s fantastic news, he said, indicating the virus has not been able to gain a serious foothold because of social distancing.


It's like a wildfire, Chiu said. A few sparks might fly off the fire and land in the grass and start new fires. But if the main fire is doused and its embers stomped out, you can kill off an entire strain. In California, Chiu sees a lot of sparks hitting the ground, most coming from Washington, but they're quickly being put out.


Hoping this shelter is not an "endemic" case
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on March 31, 2020, 12:42:07 AM
Verpies
Quote
Learn what a Therapeutic Index is before you go any further with this.

Below is a video that explores the chemistry of Chlorine Dioxide.  It is not for you since you have apparently made up your mind already and are immune to reason:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uHcDOyVqvTHR/

Next week it will be blood letting and leeches I suspect.

So far as ingesting Chlorine Dioxide, as an Engineer having an fair education in organic chemistry and industrial water treatment anything with the term Chlorine in it should be avoided. Even I have a whole house 3 stage filter with a final stage 5 micron active carbon filter and an RO unit with a re-mineralizer and U.V. light for drinking and I'm not overly cautious in my opinion. Chlorine is toxic, what part of toxic do people not understand?.

I see similar problems in my profession in the Energy sector where preventative maintenance has become non-existent and replaced with break down maintenance. Only in this case it is our health we are talking about and many have replaced maintaining good health with chronic medication after the fact which is obviously a losing proposition.

Yes the Corona virus is bad but it has enlightened many people to the fact that they are very much human no matter where they live, the wealth they hold or the people they know. Reality and nature is the ultimate equalizer and now it has come home to roost if you will.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: gotoluc on March 31, 2020, 01:38:04 AM

A little humor for these serious times.
Sorry to those who may of already seen it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_tEdQvFcc


Regards
Luc
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: e2matrix on March 31, 2020, 07:06:15 AM
Your biased self observation is not much of an argument.  Chlorine Dioxide is a simple non-selective powerful oxidizing agent. As such it disrupts most biochemical pathways.  I know of many toxic chemical compounds that work like that, but I would never tell people to ingest them even in small quantities ...just because they kill some germs but do not kill you immediately.

Learn what a Therapeutic Index  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_index)is before you go any further with this.

Below is a video that explores the chemistry of Chlorine Dioxide.  It is not for you since you have apparently made up your mind already and are immune to reason:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uHcDOyVqvTHR/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/uHcDOyVqvTHR/)


Stefan, if you are reading this, according to the German law you will be liable for promotion of usage of any toxic and explosive chemicals on this site:
This is how Chlorine Dioxide is classified in Germany ( the legend is here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFPA_704) ):
MMS is sodium chlorite.   It is made from ClO2 and forms an ion of CLO2 but what you consume is not.  I studied organic chemistry and Microbiology at a University medical school.   I know about LD50 and so on.   I've studied health and healing for over 50 years.   Why do people have to always start insulting others.   You might want to read Jim Humble's book to see some of the proof of all the lives this has saved and is on record - absolute proof with the Red Cross in Africa and other entities.   Out of hundreds of thousands that have used this there was only one known death and that was attributed to a person mixing it incorrectly combined with their existing illness.  How many die each year from pharmaceuticals?   Last I checked many years ago it was over 200,000 in the U.S. alone.   

 onepower - I'm sure you are familiar NaCl ? sodium chloride - table salt.   It has chlorine in it along with sodium.  Separately they are both very dangerous.   But together I'm sure you ingest some every day.   I don't drink tap water either - to avoid the chlorine and other junk in it but I will certainly take sodium chlorite if my life is in danger from a deadly pathogen like the coronavirus.   MMS works a bit like chemotherapy - it kills the bad pathogens but with much less toxicity and side effects that you would experience from traditional chemotherapy.   I'd suggest anyone make their own judgement on the use of MMS but don't judge it by all the garbage out there on the Internet.  Read Jim Humbles books or at least his first book.   Information on MMS and what it is made from became very negative - tons of bad propaganda put out there and nearly all very misleading once the pharma cartels realized what it could do to their profits.   Even the naturopaths and those who sell herbals and such won't mention MMS.   It's too cheap.   You could have enough to take every day for a year for about $20 if you make it yourself - and it's easy to make.    A years supply for $20 - who wants to compete with that?   That is why it is suppressed.    Google Humble's books and you'll likely find some PDF's of them for free if you don't want to buy them.   But if it saves your life consider buying a book or two from him.   

  I found it very interesting that immediately after posting the first message here about MMS my computer was attacked by a trojan for the first time in many years.  I was unable to boot Windows anymore.   Fortunately I also spent many years as a computer field engineer and was able to fix the attack on the MBR.   I'm done posting about this and won't try to convince anyone about this anymore.  You decide what to take - the red pill or the blue pill.    ::)    8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 31, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
                                                      IN DER RUHE LIEGT DIE KRAFT


https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kommt-der-Krisen-Hoehepunkt-im-Juni-article21681171.html (https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kommt-der-Krisen-Hoehepunkt-im-Juni-article21681171.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FKommt-der-Krisen-Hoehepunkt-im-Juni-article21681171.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FKommt-der-Krisen-Hoehepunkt-im-Juni-article21681171.html)


CONDITION :


Calculations by scientists from the universities in Mainz and Hamburg now show that if the measures are relaxed after the holidays, the peak of the epidemic could already be reached in early June.



               taking this given numbers and filling in a timeline :


year 2020


30.March                             63325 registred  infected


30.April

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fnachrichten%2F111463%2FAntikoerper-Studie-soll-Immunitaet-der-Bevoelkerung-aufzeigen (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aerzteblatt.de%2Fnachrichten%2F111463%2FAntikoerper-Studie-soll-Immunitaet-der-Bevoelkerung-aufzeigen)
                                                                                      Antibody study


   First results are expected in late April.The study results could also have an impact on how long the containment measures decided by the federal government are maintained.

30.Mai


30.Juni                            1 200 000 estimated registred infected


30.Juli


30.August


30.September                  5 000 000  estimated registred infected




from                             83 000 000  estimated inhabitants in Germany




propbably beginning with end September/October the first greater vaccination wave will begin




The virology speaks about 70% population immunization trial : by natural infection and/or vaccination( what means organized infection)
and this means for Germany over 58 millions inhabitants

later vaccination( SARS-virus-kind ?) production capacity per day/medical injection capacity by professional personal per day


"end of April" :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FReitzle-fordert-Hochfahren-Ende-April-article21680231.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FReitzle-fordert-Hochfahren-Ende-April-article21680231.html)










                                                                                           irony button on ;)









                                                                          1.Mai 2020        Tag 1 der Arbeit  ::)  Freitag for Future
                                                                poste "Alle Raeder stehen still weil es Corona-Government so will"


                                                                             Konsum-Fasten : kein Fleisch,kein Garnix  ;D


                                               Die ankommenden Zugvoegel wundern sich : "So ruhig hier ! Hatten wir anders in Erinnerung !" 8) 


                                                                         "Wo sind denn diese komischen Voegel hin ?"


                                                   


                                                                         2.Mai Samstag             3.Mai Sonntag




 Beginning with : 4.Mai,Monday commercial "normalization",earliest preview ( with "dernier cry" accessoir : breathing mask )


https://www.schulferien.org/deutschland/feiertage/mai/ (https://www.schulferien.org/deutschland/feiertage/mai/) 8-Mai "Tag der Befreiung" :o  Andere Definition fuer "Kuendigung" ? :-\ :-[ :P



frei nach Remarque : Hunde ,wollt ihr ewig nichtstun ?


Schwester,komm mir blos´net mit "Leck mich !" Auch klatschen ist eine ehrenwerte Belohnung,mancheinmal " an die Wand" eben auch ! >:( :)


https://www.n-tv.de/ratgeber/Wie-weit-Sie-gehen-duerfen-article15549.html (https://www.n-tv.de/ratgeber/Wie-weit-Sie-gehen-duerfen-article15549.html)
Deutschland ,das Land der Problemaufbereiter und Problemloeser !




Oh Jesus,leck mich ! " bilaterale Gott-Jesus-Heiliger Geist -Arbeitsverhaeltnis mit schwierigen Momenten,immer noch Baustelle

          "Auch ein Arbeitsrichter weiß, dass auf einer Baustelle anders gesprochen wird, als auf einem Priesterseminar" ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 31, 2020, 12:11:02 PM
?? this site has many paths to med field [Dr.s  in the trenches working to fix this
 https://techstartups.com/2020/03/27/breaking-tolicizumab-shown-effective-hydroxychloroquine-treating-coronavirus-patients-doctors-say/
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 31, 2020, 12:29:45 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FFrankreichs-Behoerden-warnen-vor-Chloroquin-article21681668.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FFrankreichs-Behoerden-warnen-vor-Chloroquin-article21681668.html)

The regional drug agency in Bordeaux, France, had previously warned against self-medication with active ingredients such as hydroxychloroquine.The authority referred to the strong side effects of the drug, which include not only cardiac arrhythmia but also neurological problems.An overdose can be fatal.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin)


Nebenwirkungen und Kontraindikationen[Bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chloroquin&veaction=edit&section=6) | Quelltext bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chloroquin&action=edit&section=6)][/size]Chloroquin kann diverse Nebenwirkungen haben, darunter eine Trübung der Hornhaut (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornhaut) und eine Veränderung der Netzhaut (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netzhaut) im Auge (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auge),[24] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-24)[25] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-25) Magen-Darm-Beschwerden, Schlafstörungen, neuropsychiatrische Symptome[26] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-26)[27] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-27) und Hautrötungen. Besonders bei schweren Leber (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leber)-Nierenschädigungen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niere) darf Chloroquin nicht genutzt werden. Die Kombination von Chloroquin zusammen mit leberschädigenden Arzneimitteln oder MAO-Hemmern (vgl. Monoaminooxidase-Hemmer (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoaminooxidase-Hemmer)) darf nicht erfolgen. Chloroquin darf nicht zur Anwendung kommen, falls Erkrankungen im Bereich des Auges und des blutbildenden Systems vorliegen. Besteht eine Überempfindlichkeit gegen Chinin oder Mefloquin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mefloquin), darf Chloroquin nicht zur Therapie eingesetzt werden.

Die wöchentliche Einnahme von Chloroquin ist für schwangere Frauen und stillende Mütter zwar erlaubt, sollte aber für eine Langzeitanwendung bei täglicher Einnahme (wie bei Therapie der rheumatoiden Arthritis) unterbleiben. Es besteht sonst die Gefahr von Augendefekten beim Ungeborenen bzw. beim Säugling. Chloroquin kann auch bei Kindern angewendet werden, die Langzeitbehandlung sollte allerdings nicht erfolgen.
Eine Überdosierung führt zu Pigmentstörungen, die Haare erbleichen lassen.[28] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-28)
Nach einer Studie aus dem Jahr 2008 wird Chloroquin auch mit der Induzierung einer Antibiotikumsresistenz (gegen Fluorchinolone (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorchinolonantibiotikum)) in Verbindung gebracht.[29] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquin#cite_note-29)


Chloroquin + the patient his common daily med-doses (before Corona) ? >50 years old :  -tail ? f.e. with beta-blocker ?


Fluorchinolonantibiotika (kurz auch: Fluorchinolone) sind eine Untergruppe der Chinolon-Antibiotika (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinolon-Antibiotika), mit denen sie strukturell verwandt sind. Wie diese wirken sie als sogenannte „Gyrasehemmer (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrasehemmer)“ über die Hemmung der bakteriellen Topoisomerase II (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topoisomerase_II) (Gyrase), einem Enzym, das bei der DNA (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA)-Synthese eine Rolle spielt. Gegenüber anderen Gyrasehemmern zeichnen sie sich durch ein breiteres Wirkungsspektrum aus. Da neuere Fluorchinolone nicht nur gegen die Topoisomerase (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topoisomerase) vom Typ II, sondern auch gegen weitere Typen wie die Topoisomerase IV wirksam sind, ist die Bezeichnung Gyrasehemmer mittlerweile international unüblich.[1] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorchinolonantibiotikum#cite_note-klinpharm-1)
Fluorchinolone werden sowohl in der Humanmedizin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanmedizin) als auch in der Veterinärmedizin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterin%C3%A4rmedizin) eingesetzt. Im Jahr 2015 bekamen mehr als vier Millionen gesetzlich Krankenversicherte knapp 5,9 Millionen Arzneimittelpackungen Fluorchinolone verordnet.[2] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorchinolonantibiotikum#cite_note-2) Da sie schwere, zum Teil irreversible Schäden am Nervensystem (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervensystem) und Bewegungsapparat (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bewegungsapparat) hervorrufen können, sind sie seit dem 8. April 2019 in Deutschland in der systemischen Anwendung eingeschränkt.[3] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorchinolonantibiotikum#cite_note-3)
Chemisch gesehen sind die Fluorchinolone im Grundgerüst am C-6 fluoriert (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluor) und weisen zusätzlich einen Piperazinsubstituenten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperazin) auf.




How high the risc of "medical Zika-like deformation or Contergan-deformation " ?


https://www.cdc.gov/zika/healtheffects/birth_defects.html (https://www.cdc.gov/zika/healtheffects/birth_defects.html)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FContergan-Skandal (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FContergan-Skandal)


Only masculin genetics (Bluter),genetical direct generation next or over-next ?




It is a " silent working industry and they serving service society,the pharmaceutical medicine branch , and silence also well paid !"

Monsanto/Bayer,VW and the other : Kosten/Nutzen-Verhaeltns + Stillhaltepraemie der "Illuminati"/Eingeweihten in Politk,Wirtschaft,Recht = geral ESTATE administration or Establishment

In the 80' Phillip Morris,then Microsoft,....,

Kartell-Gesellschaft,meine Domaene bs dahin,deine bis dahin,seine bis dorthin = Syndikate
und zum Schutz vor gierigen Opfern geht das Betruegergeld stiften : in Stiftungen/Foundations

Die wenigsten sind honorig,selbst die Alfred Nobel lebt vom Toeten mit Dynamit !

Vulgaeres Kassations-/Appellationsgericht : in dubio : pro reo ( from reus )Without dubio/doubts :    WE ARE ALL DEBILS/DEVILS  reo/indication : WHITE or BLACK( Soul color,not body color)
Our society is not " top secret" but " top transparent" !

Totenschein oder Todesursache : epidemologisch/virologisch unwichtig,denn soll dann zig tausenden Aerzten die Approbation zurueckgenommen werden,Hospitaeler und Altenheime wegen Schadensersatzklagen in Millionenhohe per Fall und Verurteilung wegen darauffolgendem Bankrotts geschlossen werden ?
Wohin mit Patienten und Pflegefaelle ?Kosten/Nuzen-Analyse : wollt ihr Angehoerigen diese aufnehmen ?
Besser so lassen wie es ist ! The show darf go on

Fast nur Alte ,davon 2/3 maennlich ! 



Keine Belastung sondern Entlastung !
Norbert Bluem,Ex-Sozialminister und fuer andere Angelenheiten : Die Rente ist ( so) sicher !
CDA : CORONA DEN ALTEN
Wenn man die Bismarksche Sozialgesetzgebung anschaut,so um 1870/1880,dazu die seinerzeitige Sterbetafel,dann kommt man zur semi- tristen Einsicht :'( : Rente fuer ( fast ) keinen  ;D

Einige (1% der Rentenlotterie-Teilnehmer)die Renten-Miete,der Rest gezogen die Renten-Niete ! O qual miseria !
Streng katholisch die Hoffnung : vielleicht im naechstem Leben !?
"Kirche ist Opium fuers Volk " meinte mal so ein Far-Ossi,sehr geachtet vom reichsdeutschem Kriegsministerium

         WIR WOLLEN ARBEITSGARANTIE,lebenslaenglich ( nix 15 Jahre strafrechtlich,bis zum Tode)   
        Bei bedingungslosem Grundeinkommen = nennt sich Fixum
        Bei bedngungloser Grundarbeitszeit:bis zu 24Std. pro  Tag,bei Bedarf der Tag ordnungstechnisch       
       auf 48,72 Stunden  verlaengert wird mit calendarischem maximum : 1 Tag = 8766 Stunden     
     
       Somit der natuerliche TAG von einem oekonomischem BUNDES-TAG zu unterscheiden waere
        Bei bedingungsloser Einkommensart : un-/gebrauchtes Klopapier

Kind,was soll bloss aus dir werden !?
Kind :  Keine Angst Eltern,so wie ihr :  FIXER ! :)

Eltern ,falsch verstanden : WICHSER ? >:( :( :o ???

Kind,nimmt flexible Zahnspange aus dem Mund : "Nein, ich sagte FIXER ! Undeutlich aufgrund der Spange"                                                                                         (Denkend :ihr missgebildeten Wichser ! ;D )

Aeh,bei dringendem Wunsch , auch Jungen : Corona macht Kinder froh und Erwachsene ebenso

ENDLICH mal wieder Leben in unserer oeden Staats- Bude
Fruehlingsmaerchen 2020

        Forensische Wissenschaft        Wissenschaftliche Forensik

      " Wissenschaft"-Wissenschaftler auf dem Forensik-Instituts-Tisch : sezieren,seduzieren,separieren 
        "Zeitgeist"(frueher,heute,morgen) Makro-
        hin Nano-sphaerisch/"Definiton Leben :Beginn: gibt es ein "Leben" vor der Zelle "
     
        Leben reduzierend auf Information,mathematische Codes ?
   


Virologie/Epidemiologie : Fleming :Prinzip Zufall und nicht Wissen
                                              Robert Koch : afrikanische Massentests an Negriden
                                              Josef Mengele : Massentests vielerlei Arten bezueglich epidemischer Krankheiten

      Therapeutisches Plasma : hypo-allergenische Schock Fall-Haeufigkeitspotential
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on March 31, 2020, 05:15:08 PM
MMS is sodium chlorite. 
Yes but sodium chlorite is not sodium chloride.  It is much more loosely bound and when mixed even with a weak acid, e.g. citric acid, it liberates chlorine dioxide. It also ignites when mixed with powdered sugar and squeezed.  Kitchen salt does not do that.


Sodium chloride is different because it liberates chlorine gas (also toxic) when subjected only to a strong acid ...but such acids are not common in culinary practice nor in the stomach.


I agree that a compound of two dangerous elements can be quite innocuous.
The same can be said about two innocuous elements having a deadly effect when combined, e.g. carbon and nitrogen.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on March 31, 2020, 07:23:10 PM
3/31 /2020 News from Fairfield county CT [NYC suburb]
37 year old man who had been dying from corona virus [induced coma and ventilator ]... once available was put on HCQ protocol

Went home from Hospital today symptom free to see his new twin babies

##heard this on News report a few minutes ago looking for hard copy ....

Yesterday there was hard copy on new Jersey Doctor mentioned above [accross river from NYC] using HCQ variants [malaria protocol
 to treat ill and pretreat caregivers...

story disappeared after I posted here ...looking for link ,  was a DR.Verga in Hoboken NJ [i believe]across river from NYC
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: e2matrix on March 31, 2020, 07:29:56 PM
Yes but sodium chlorite is not sodium chloride.  It is much more loosely bound and when mixed even with a weak acid, e.g. citric acid, it liberates chlorine dioxide. It also ignites when mixed with powdered sugar and squeezed.  Kitchen salt does not do that.


Sodium chloride is different because it liberates chlorine gas (also toxic) when subjected only to a strong acid ...but such acids are not common in culinary practice nor in the stomach.


I agree that a compound of two dangerous elements can be quite innocuous.
The same can be said about two innocuous elements having a deadly effect when combined, e.g. carbon and nitrogen.
Yes I'm aware of the big difference between sodium chloride and sodium chlorite.   My post may have been somewhat confusing as I was addressing several different things with you and onepower.   

The difference is that a chlorine dioxide ion (which is the state it is in your body) is a different animal than pure chlorine dioxide.   It is essentially stabilized oxygen in your body. 

Just an example:
"Chloride Ion is a chlorine anion that forms the negatively charged part of certain salts, including hydrogen and sodium chloride salts, and is an essential electrolyte located in all body fluids responsible for maintaining acid/base balance, transmitting nerve impulses and regulating fluid in and out of cells."

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on March 31, 2020, 11:34:40 PM
Virologist Fauci : 100 000 - 200 000 deaths in the USA


Empiri ?

 
                        228 723 deaths with mainly > 60 years age cases for the USA is real     only statistical comparison




                       ( Austria/USA demography differences ?         




                       Austria/USA hospital quality and bed/infection cases ratio ?  health insurance ?            USA  + 176 US$ per day cash costs to pay by patients )







                       by low financial solidity of these high risc group :        300 000 is realer


                     

                    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEinwanderung_in_die_Vereinigten_Staaten (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEinwanderung_in_die_Vereinigten_Staaten)


                   In the United States, illegal immigrants represent (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegale_Einwanderung_und_illegaler_Aufenthalt&usg=ALkJrhiTpgLCudLP5iajE6vV-HLKalScNA) an estimated 3.5% of the total population and 5% of the workforce.

                                                                                  >  60 years age now ?


                         Many illegally immigrants pay social security contributions without being entitled to benefits.Because social security contributions of people whose social security number does not fit an existing data record are forwarded to the earnings suspense file .This applies to illegal immigrants who have presented their employers with the wrong social security card.



           
                                                                                           300 000 + X


                                                                                                           X =?


                                                                                                           X = +- 200 000



           Not all > 60 have to die,not all Corona-virus patients > 60 years have to die , but 30% of all Corona-virus infected USA inhabitants >60 will die (earlier)


                                                                  lethality quote : by SARS




Wuhan 11 mio inhabitants: 3000 deaths official by "Corona" ,during the pandemie time 40 000  cremations ( "normal" deaths and infection deaths )

  U.S.A. :      0,5 mio max less from 330 mio = for 99,85 % "business as usual "

                     ( not really: Corona-virus post-infection lung short/long term functionality change ~                     
                                                  bronchitis/asthma - not same but symptomatic )

But post- virus is pre-virus : www.qz.com "Coronaviruses hit seniors the hardest" next pandemia precast


                                                                                            228 723


                      Based by                      https://sciencev1.orf.at/science/news/96097 (https://sciencev1.orf.at/science/news/96097)


A, 1998/99 lag die Übersterblichkeit im Rahmen einer heftigen Influenza A-Epidemie bei rund 6.100 Toten (Dezember 1998 bis Februar 1999).


B. Austria 8,8 mio inhabitants   USA: 330 mio inhabitants


C,  "Die Übersterblichkeit ereignet sich ausschließlich bei den über 60-Jährigen."















https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5597831%2Fbisher-uber-600-grippe-todesfalle-in-osterreich (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diepresse.com%2F5597831%2Fbisher-uber-600-grippe-todesfalle-in-osterreich)


It is about flu virus ? or is it -in reality-  about :


   59% bacterial pneumonia and 25% pulmonary sepsis ?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18641112 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18641112)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on April 01, 2020, 03:33:17 AM
e2matrix
Quote
onepower - I'm sure you are familiar NaCl ? sodium chloride - table salt.   It has chlorine in it along with sodium.  Separately they are both very dangerous.   But together I'm sure you ingest some every day.   I don't drink tap water either - to avoid the chlorine and other junk in it but I will certainly take sodium chlorite if my life is in danger from a deadly pathogen like the coronavirus. 

Well said and the form and volume of any given substance have different results. I read a lack of NaCl can kill us and so can too much however in moderation it is beneficial like many things. Personally I prefer a more natural solution and try to eat right and exercise more often to keep healthy. I was lucky to grow up on a farm exposed to a dirty environment which now provides myself and my family with a fairly robust immune system. We seldom if ever get sick and have never taken any medication other than Tylenol for a headache every now and then.

I see many people taking drugs and the side effects are most often worse than the problem the drug was supposed to help moderate. I can't tell you how many people I have told to stop taking there supposed "medication" and they soon felt better... go figure.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 01, 2020, 11:17:29 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FCovid-19-koennte-Lunge-dauerhaft-schaedigen-article21681600.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FCovid-19-koennte-Lunge-dauerhaft-schaedigen-article21681600.html)


but it is relatively known :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchweres_Akutes_Atemwegssyndrom (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchweres_Akutes_Atemwegssyndrom)




Patient follow-up and antibody formation


Around 25% of the SARS patients who were cared for at a military hospital in Beijing after discharge showed remaining lung structure changes in the sense of pulmonary fibrosis (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungenfibrose&usg=ALkJrhhYyQaDyZcKk8gTRTXXUf_ywbRbew) . 40 patients had a measurable diffusion capacity disorder of the lungs. This improved spontaneously in half of those affected.
 The radiological lung fibrosis also showed an improvement in the one-year follow-up period, but did not disappear completely in all patients. The authors hypothesized that due to the improvement, the mechanism was different from that of ordinary lung fibrosis. In the same study, IgG antibodies to the virus were found in around 80% of the patients. Due to the change in the antibody titers over the course of the course, the authors only assume that immunity is limited in time.

A very small study, consisting of infected healthcare workers, observed the patients over 15 years. There was an improvement in the lung damage to the patients who had radiologically detectable residuals of the disease when they healed. After a year, however, there was a plateau phase with mild restrictive disorders (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungenfunktion&usg=ALkJrhgrt8gGq4PfCXz7D4E6prIU4C1GYg#Restriktive_Ventilationsst%C3%B6rung) and diffusion (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungenfunktion&usg=ALkJrhgrt8gGq4PfCXz7D4E6prIU4C1GYg#Perfusions-_und_Diffusionst%C3%B6rungen_Diffusionsst%C3%B6rungen) disorders (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungenfunktion&usg=ALkJrhgrt8gGq4PfCXz7D4E6prIU4C1GYg#Restriktive_Ventilationsst%C3%B6rung) . The femoral head necrosis (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femurkopfnekrose&usg=ALkJrhj_VF2knZIImy4x6vDSxmz5DHClXQ) observed in the previous post-treatment studies was seen as a late consequence of steroid therapy (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kortikosteroide&usg=ALkJrhjRQ54POl1Z5HQ23CfI5_DozfbuaA) as part of the treatment of SARS.


Treat this Corona-viriae pandemie like a "tuberculosis epidemie" !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fgesundheit%2Farticle10876991%2FTuberkulose-Erreger-koennten-Epidemien-ausloesen.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fgesundheit%2Farticle10876991%2FTuberkulose-Erreger-koennten-Epidemien-ausloesen.html)

Be concerned,no panic !


https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-die-zahlen-sind-vollkommen-unzuverlaessig-a-7535b78f-ad68-4fa9-9533-06a224cc9250 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-die-zahlen-sind-vollkommen-unzuverlaessig-a-7535b78f-ad68-4fa9-9533-06a224cc9250)


                                       Symptome von Covid-19




                                                   Compare !


The lung disease is triggered by rod-shaped bacteria and can be transmitted through the air by droplet infection.The most common cause of tuberculosis infections in humans is the Mycobacterium tuberculosis.Symptoms of the disease include fatigue, sweating, loss of appetite, weight loss, fever (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.welt.de/themen/fieber/&usg=ALkJrhj_04HrWpviB_oFR52YjJdOWMqj5g) , coughing and shortness of breath.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2020, 12:16:02 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutschlandfunk.de%2Fcovid-19-laut-rki-sind-corona-tote-in-deutschland-derzeit.1939.de.html%3Fdrn%3Anews_id%3D1116094 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deutschlandfunk.de%2Fcovid-19-laut-rki-sind-corona-tote-in-deutschland-derzeit.1939.de.html%3Fdrn%3Anews_id%3D1116094)


Germany 83 000 000 inhabitants 


                   64  000 registred infected        30.March 2020   https://www.rtl.de/cms/chronologie-coronavirus-entwicklungen-vom-montag-30-maerz-4514732.html (https://www.rtl.de/cms/chronologie-coronavirus-entwicklungen-vom-montag-30-maerz-4514732.html)


                        <30 registred deaths        < 60 years and without pre-illness
                         
                         ( 31 less minimum one indicated pre-ill patient)

                         
                                     


                 > 99,95 % Corona-infection survival quote for all < 60 years age


             


https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1013307/umfrage/sterbefaelle-in-deutschland-nach-alter/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1013307/umfrage/sterbefaelle-in-deutschland-nach-alter/)


2017 :                  51576 < 60 years death cases from                                  932272           death cases


                              5,5%                  from                  100%


 
                              31 Corona-deaths < 60 years                   from                    600 Corona- death cases


                             
                              5,2%                  from                   100%




Actually there is no unexpected trend to see from given forensic data in Germany
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2020, 06:23:04 PM
Spain : hotspot ? For what ?
Islas Canarias ,actually day maximum temperature  ?

We people dies ! Earlier or later !

When in Germany died in 1 year 932000 people ( cause undefined) by 83 000 000 habitants and these by quasi 95% over 60 years age,I do really not expect that Spain differs from these ratio and number strongly ( okay,cup of vinho tinto,alho( anti-viral),salsa,olive oil ...,fine sunshine)

Spain : 46750 000 habitants x ( 932/83000) = 525 000 deaths per annum
                                         ( also here hypothesis : 95% ≥ 60 years age)

https://www.fuerteventurazeitung.de/2020/03/corona-virus-in-spanien-zahl-der-toten-steigt-auf-3/ (https://www.fuerteventurazeitung.de/2020/03/corona-virus-in-spanien-zahl-der-toten-steigt-auf-3/)

13.February( first registred Corona case)   to 31.March ~ 1,5 months time spread

525 000 : 12 ( months) x 1,5 ( months time spread) = 65 625 deaths for Spain

Reading : 10 000 deaths with Corona virus  from how many official registred deaths !?

So even total 75000 deaths( = average statistics deaths 65625 + 9375 extra-ordinary Corona-SARS deaths)   in Spain between 13.February - 31.March 2020 would be,by all european known different flu A/B deaths waves epidemies/pandemies, not a surprising number and normal

( 932 000 deaths in a normal german  flu season year ,but not by flu the death cause  :P ) !

 For each given number we need for statistical evaluation and comparison : time data/first- last day  range ,sexus(male/female),age,health condition : not / pre-illness     


WE ALL WILL DIE ! EARLIER OR LATER !

65625 : 47 days = 1400 normal deaths each day in Spain   in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019

                                 1600 normal deaths each day in Italy
                                 2550 normal deaths each day in Germany

Normal deaths are no reason for " Corona bonds" ! Not in Europe,not USA,not Japan,elsewhere .






edit :

I do correct the date ; from 13.february( E.U.-site data)  now the first "Corona" case in Spain 31.January(or 1 February)


https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1103813/umfrage/erkrankungs-und-todesfaelle-aufgrund-des-coronavirus-in-spanien/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1103813/umfrage/erkrankungs-und-todesfaelle-aufgrund-des-coronavirus-in-spanien/)


so we have to calculate for this time with 60 days and as comparison base (60 x 1400)  84 000 "normal" deaths cases(95% > 60 years age) ,independent from Corona



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.laenderdaten.de%2Fbevoelkerung%2Fsterberate.aspx (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.laenderdaten.de%2Fbevoelkerung%2Fsterberate.aspx)


But Corona will not change great these known advantages :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wochenblatt.es%2Fspanien%2Fniedrigste-sterberate-der-eu%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wochenblatt.es%2Fspanien%2Fniedrigste-sterberate-der-eu%2F)







 :o :o :o  I calculate with 932 000 german deaths per annum by my comparison :




http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt (http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factfish.com%2Fde%2Fstatistik-land%2Fspanien%2Fsterberate%252C%2520gesamt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factfish.com%2Fde%2Fstatistik-land%2Fspanien%2Fsterberate%252C%2520gesamt)


                                                              2015         Deaths, total (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik/sterbef%25C3%25A4lle%252C%2520gesamt&usg=ALkJrhjZGbPXpk1hkO2vg791Mai-6FFobg)                 1,999,765


                                                                           THIS ARE 5480 DEATHS PER DAY !


                                           x 60 days = 328 800 "normal" deaths                   in this 1.february -31.March               normal statistical period 2015 only for Spain

                                                                 8 269 Corona-infected deaths           from 1,february -31,March 2020      extra ?


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factfish.com%2Fde%2Fstatistik-land%2Fspanien%2Fsterberate%252C%2520gesamt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factfish.com%2Fde%2Fstatistik-land%2Fspanien%2Fsterberate%252C%2520gesamt)


http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt (http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt)


2020 9,1 cases per 1000  and 2015 8,6 cases per 1000 :             5,8% increase




even here we have an increase to estimate  :         from 328 800 2015  to now 2020  :  347 870 normal death cases in 2 months


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FSterben-alle-Corona-Opfer-am-Virus-article21688208.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FSterben-alle-Corona-Opfer-am-Virus-article21688208.html)


The most important advice :


The cause of death of the dead in Wuhan listed in the study must in most cases be attributed to the pneumonia caused by the disease, which usually also occurred.

                                                                                               Save your lung !
                               
                                                           
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: arhitrade on April 03, 2020, 05:28:15 PM
Other Rife frequencies may help in the fight against the virus: http://sintez.top/?lang=en#361 (http://sintez.top/?lang=en#361)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 03, 2020, 05:30:40 PM
here something which actually does work ...and the medical reason.
   former mayor of NYC interviewing the Dr treating patients here with HCQ + Zinc + azirthromicin protocol
 
 Below information has already been shared above regarding dosing.
 To summarize....the Zinc is the biggest part ...Zinc makes the Virus unable to do its
 job of taking over the cell ...problem Zinc has no means to enter the cell to adequate
 levels to inhibit the virus....HCQ opens this door and gets the extra required Zinc inside ...
 
 Cell thrives ...Virus unable to spread... Immune system has time to stop Virus and we ultimately survive.
 antibiotic is there to kill off bacteria which tend to thrive in these battles and typically they further weaken the immune system ....sans the antibiotic.
 
 Notice ...Vid can be hard to watch ...the Dr will be making a formal report ...awaiting that info.
 
 Dr. says this virus is 3 times as contagious [in general]and 10 times as deadly as typical flu [to susceptible weakened population ]
 
 
 A few important observations from interview
 Early breathing problems of any age group he puts on Cure protocol.
 also lack of taste and smell are also EARLY signs which accompany serious infection trends.[and he treats with protocol...

 
 once patients get to lung failure ..its a whole different problem ...
 this cure protocol above prevents susceptible patients from getting into lung failure
 and gives them time to develop antibodies and heal.
 NOTE BELOW IS HIS OPINION
 He suspects everyone ultimately needs to get this virus for us all to develop immunity
 and the cure protocol makes this a reasonable path to that immunity goal
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJd...=youtu.be&t=86 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJdjhd_XG8&feature=youtu.be&t=86)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on April 03, 2020, 08:01:03 PM
To summarize....the Zinc is the biggest part ...Zinc makes the Virus unable to do its
 job of taking over the cell ...problem Zinc has no means to enter the cell to adequate
 levels to inhibit the virus....HCQ opens this door and gets the extra required Zinc inside ...
Yes, and that is why every trial/study of HCQ efficacy without Zinc supplementation should be considered handicapped.
If you are the conspiracy type ...swap "sabotaged" for "handicapped".
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on April 04, 2020, 02:15:52 AM
In the news...
It doesn't look good for trump or the U.S. now that trump has been proven to be completely incompetent and let his country become ground zero for the gloal pandemic.

Obama had a pandemic team in place and trump fired them, he denied the facts then delayed the response and now it's a complete shit show and trump owns it.

Then just when we think it couldn't get any worse trump starts throwing the U.S. allies like Canada under the bus. Not only the U.S. allies but the U.S. states as well... well done and this will not be forgotten any time soon.


Update...
Apparently the U.S. has been hijacking medical shipments around the world leaving there allies like Germany, France, Brazil and Canada with little or nothing. Common thieves and theft on sovereign soil is going to have some major blowback. I expect the U.S. companies to be thrown out of the country for treason. Selling your U.S. stock now may be a good idea.


Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on April 04, 2020, 12:30:18 PM
To summarize....the Zinc is the biggest part ...Zinc makes the Virus unable to do its job of taking over the cell ...problem Zinc has no means to enter the cell to adequate levels to inhibit the virus....HCQ opens this door and gets the extra required Zinc inside ...
For those who want to understand this mechanism better, here is a video presentation about it:
https://youtu.be/Eeh054-Hx1U?t=214 (https://youtu.be/Eeh054-Hx1U?t=214)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: verpies on April 04, 2020, 12:53:37 PM
once patients get to lung failure ..its a whole different problem ...
Yes, if you do a HCQ study/trial at this stage then the result will be pretty miserable.
Also, if the patient is Zinc deficient then HCQ will be ineffective ..and the result will be miserable, too.

As a consequence of such mistakes in official studies, this cure can be falsely rejected.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 04, 2020, 06:40:38 PM



http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt (http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt)   


fact-fish research made simple



From where they have their quasi 2 mio death number for Spain 2015 ,divided in these accumulated male and female deaths probably only they know







A little more trustfull and a little more faith in the exponentialcurve

https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/)


we see atypical decrease and increase in death cases,soon before 2019/2020,here only  for Spain, with numeric spreads between years over 50 000 cases


So the situation actually IS TYPICAL FOR NORMAL EPIDEMIE seasons




also for Italy :


https://www.fr.de/panorama/coronavirus-italien-corona-covid-19-todesfaelle-medizinisches-personal-zr-13591649.html (https://www.fr.de/panorama/coronavirus-italien-corona-covid-19-todesfaelle-medizinisches-personal-zr-13591649.html)


The national Italian statistical authority Istat and the Istituto Cattaneo in Bologna took Italy's current total totals and compared them with the mean of the years 2015 to 2019 in the same period. According to civil defense, a total of 4,825 died from Covid-19 between February 21 and March 21. However, the number of deaths is significantly higher than in previous years, namely the plus is 8740 and not 4825. This can "only be attributed to an external cause, Covid-19," the authors of the study write.


but


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285)


                 there are often in studies attributions;WITHOUT AUTOPSY/OBDUCTION :      worthless


for Italy with higher inhabitants number related Spain=46,75 mio also up to 75 000 deaths in 2020 we can define as TYPICAL FOR NORMAL EPIDEMIE season






04.04.2020


Corona-season  2020  best/middle/worst case

https://www.swp.de/panorama/corona-coronavirus-italien-infizierte-tote-ausgangssperre-mailand-pandemie-44979276.html (https://www.swp.de/panorama/corona-coronavirus-italien-infizierte-tote-ausgangssperre-mailand-pandemie-44979276.html)

as Corona-case deaths 2020 in Spain    :           11200 deaths  / 50000 pandemie cases expectation( base : 2017/2018 increase )


as Corona-case deaths 2020  in Italy     :          14681 deaths   / 75 000 pandemie cases expectation ( base: 2017/2018 increase Spain)

How many cases in Spain and Italy are :
pathologic "Fear-/Stress-deaths"pathologic-psychologic "Silent deaths"
Parkin : Neuron ! ( by autopsy later observeable :Proteine )

Mostly cases in this countries are by individual " Exzess-Mortality"-symptoms
Probably in operation this Corona-Covid-19 virus has more similaries with the HI-virus from the 80',Zellwand/Zellkern-treatment behaviour
Action: physiological   stress production and auto-immun-system infarkt/collaps to final body-infarkt

Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 05, 2020, 02:44:25 AM
shared by member Jimboot
https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200404dhsjr/common-head-lice-drug-may-hold-answer-to-coronavirus-cure-20200404 (https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200404dhsjr/common-head-lice-drug-may-hold-answer-to-coronavirus-cure-20200404)
with an addendum By Verpies
Quote Ivermectin is just another ionophore (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5835698/) just like HCQ. The antiviral activity is still via the zinc inhibition of Replicase.
end quote  ////and  Blood plasma from recovered is like miracle in new French study here a bit of history  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30141-9/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30141-9/fulltext)
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 05, 2020, 07:55:03 PM
sometimes experts,unserious and serious,forget experiences and F&E results from other pandemies  :


https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13510622.html (https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13510622.html)



A long-proven feature of the AIDS virus speaks against this, of course: the antibodies cannot be prevented from penetrating at all into healthy body cells. The HTL V-3 antibodies are not directed against the envelope of the virus - that would be the biological prerequisite for the destruction of the AIDS pathogen before it can attack and destroy the immune system - but only against its internal structures.


Experienced virologists also consider a second Landbeck hope to be unrealistic. The hemophilia therapist wishes that the antibody formation of harmless fractions of the dangerous, but already "broken" pathogen in the preparations has been started. Even then there would be no danger. Only: In nine out of ten cases, specialists in France and the USA have detected not only the antibodies in HTL V-3-positive patients, but also active, undestroyed AIDS viruses in the blood.






Instead HI-AIDS-virus now the Corona-SARS-VID19 case : dis-/ad vantages of the above conditions and therapy change


https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Wie-das-Coronavirus-unsere-Zellen-infiziert-article21680824.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Wie-das-Coronavirus-unsere-Zellen-infiziert-article21680824.html)


"Sanfter Tod" and "Stiller Tod"-mechanism and https://www.scinexx.de/news/biowissen/parkinson-protein-schuetzt-nervenzellen/ (https://www.scinexx.de/news/biowissen/parkinson-protein-schuetzt-nervenzellen/)


Die Inaktivierung des Parkin-Proteins könnte aber auch bei sporadischen Erkrankungen von Bedeutung sein. In diesen Fällen führt wohl massiver oxidativer Stress zu einer Fehlfaltung und Aggregation des Proteins.

  cause of  "neuronal infarct" "auto-immun system collaps"
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 06, 2020, 01:10:36 PM
scire = to know  credere = to believe       in what we shall trust ?


Wissen = to know Glauben = to believe


Wissenschaftler = scientist  Glaubenschaftler = creditist




https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Warum-das-Virus-die-Lombardei-so-befaellt-article21694914.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Warum-das-Virus-die-Lombardei-so-befaellt-article21694914.html)


"We found that the official number of Covid 19 deaths after evaluating data from a representative survey among Lombardy municipalities was only 26 percent of all real deaths."


This is the scientifical number,all other numbers are wrong "creditists" estimations !


Scientists have to work with given numbers and compare this with empiric data,seldom only with only 1 year comparison,


even in the Bible,the old creditists/scientists almanach, we know about written " 7 " cycles,


https://www.google.com/search?q=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&aqs=chrome..69i57.13759j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&aqs=chrome..69i57.13759j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


7 but ever as symbolic number : 7 can religious be 2,   6,  " 4,2758"


the number "3" for example = TRINITY was ancient the Pi-number,Pi-ramide,

today we calculate with 22/7 or are in search for a final digit after the kommata = 3, + 800 digits




I advice to read and understand this study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285) to understand "Exzessfactor" and in reverse "Inzessfactor" as dynamic exponential curve movement

                                                            WRITTEN :
 The average annual mortality excess rate per 100,000 ranged from 11.6 to 41.2 with most of the influenza-associated deaths per year registered among the elderly.

                                      when 11,6 = 100 %     41,2 = 355 %


            I take the  SARS/pneumonie emergency cases/breath machine number ratio as increase factor for later comparison : 500% and more 



                                                                Acceptable ( clearly : emotional hard,but real)  related to 11,6  ?




                   I can also take the average society deaths number  increase factor by 5%, in the > 60 years risc group specific higher ( study period -2017 numbers to 2020 ) !


                                          https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/)  the curve f.e. for Spain before Covid !


                                         So a statistical spread/amplitude of real cases is in the minimum 600 % range from empirical data !


                                         Without the today in health sector geral use : TRIAGE !

     
                                       Triage ,in Maths : DREISATZ    in Economics : NUTZWERT/GRENZWERTNUTZEN

                                       Opportunitaets-Aufwand / Opportunitaets-Ertrag + Zeitfenster




     
                         " flu virus " with pneumonie risc epidemie as base for the actual "Corona virus"-case with pneumonie


 
                                                                            PNEUMOKOKKEN,unknown ?



 "Es sind keine Zahlen, es sind Menschenleben." GERIATRIE or/and Gerontologie is a scientific profession faculta art but also Demoscopy and Demography





Mit falschen Zahlen,dazu dann daraus falsche Visionen toetet man auch (unerfahrene) Menschen ,"stiller Tod",psychologisch-physiologisch : Angsttod (Infarkt)


How many different COVI19 as disease = COVID kind we will find after obduction/autopsy of all these cases ?


SARS -cause ?  MRSA,fungi, other Kokken, .......         HYGIENE !

average risc group definition "before Corona-virus pandemie" : these 26 % inside or outside this risc group ?

And life(-LUST = Cupido/appetite/notion) battery exhaust/depletion cases ?




https://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Wissenschaftler-schockieren-Fussball-Stars-article21695356.html (https://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Wissenschaftler-schockieren-Fussball-Stars-article21695356.html)


I am not Afro- but African : ROBERT-KOCH-INSTITUT   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch)


                                        "AKTION MENSCHENFREUND"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Mary_Mallon_in_hospital.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Mary_Mallon_in_hospital.jpg)  26 years Isolation ! FORCED ! Okay,US citizen ! ;D  Female ! ::)  SO WHAT ?



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Bayer_205JS.jpg/220px-Bayer_205JS.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Bayer_205JS.jpg/220px-Bayer_205JS.jpg)  human trials ,"pretos,negros,caramelos" So what ? Ape-BLACK HUMOR  8)  Affen-Geil,Mega-Scharf unsere Humor Exponentialkurve,is it not ?




 
                                     U.P.N. :       UNITED.PERVERSIVE.NATIONS


                                     Es gibt VOELKER und die Nicht-Voelker im BUND




                                    SOCIETY 5.0  ICH FREU MICH DRAUF     U2 ?




                                    ARGUS-ZEIT,"Alter" kommt ! JUNG-ZEIT
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2020, 01:50:34 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FWir-koennen-Infektionen-nicht-verhindern-article21702978.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FWir-koennen-Infektionen-nicht-verhindern-article21702978.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2020, 03:11:05 PM
https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html)


A new study found a lower lethality for the region than other sources suggest.


The corona virus is probably not as deadly as feared: While the American Johns Hopkins University reports a mortality rate of almost two percent for Germany, the interim result of an ongoing study in the district of Heinsberg in North Rhine-Westphalia indicates that the so-called lethality of Sars -CoV-2 is significantly lower. The team led by the virologist Hendrik Streeck found that only 0.37 percent of Covid-19 patients have died after being infected with the virus.



                                                         Heinsberg with Streek-team-study is in Germany !


                                                         But Germany - with John Hopkins Uni report-  is not Heinsberg !         


                                 
   Is the average in Heinsberg higher or lower than the average in Germany ( with the same John Hopkins report team: in Heinsberg ?)?


   Study techniques/method and tools ?





                     geral experience                                            2 scientists = 3 opinions  with 50/50 chance/risc ratio quantitative, 20/80 chance/risc ratio qualitative

                                                                                         Pareto law or Pareto principle  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paretoprinzip (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paretoprinzip)

                                                                                   
         https://www.google.com/search?q=iceberg+principle&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=iceberg+principle&aqs=chrome..69i57.8293j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=iceberg+principle&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=iceberg+principle&aqs=chrome..69i57.8293j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


                                                                                         X Goldener Schnitt  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldener_Schnitt (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldener_Schnitt)


                                                                                                                      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGoldener_Schnitt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGoldener_Schnitt)
                                                                                                 
                                                                                 
                                                                                         ergo one is right : empirical logic,scientifical approveable


                                                            we are talking about "partidary motions" = mind mapping for future developpment








"This is important because it also means that 15 percent of the population can no longer become infected," said Streeck when presenting the interim results.   

Something for the boulevard press,not for "The Lancet"
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2020, 10:12:19 PM
http://www.euromomo.eu/ (http://www.euromomo.eu/)


the wave-cycle from 65+ over the years !


The wave-cycle from 15-65 age over the years !


A short 4 years re-view !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 10, 2020, 01:56:46 PM
hi everyone,
During the time of the virus outbreak in Wuhan as i found out from my local Chinese friend base on leak out information through some article seen in phone posted by someone in China-Wuhan.
People in Wuhan did notice a building believe to be a laboratory few kilometers/miles away from the Wuhan market which is believe to be related to virus research was blown up for no apparent reason.

I can't verify if this is fake or actual news unless someone have access to satellite imaging and compare base on old imaging data example taken early January 2020 and verify this with current imaging to see if any building disappeared in Wuhan near Wuhan market in kilometers.

I need someone in this forum whom have friends or colleagues whom can  help to assist verify disappeared building in Wuhan.
If a building in Wuhan is disappeared base on latest Satellite imaging then it would be easy to tell if there is obvious sign of big cover up.
 Please assist to verify this information.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 10, 2020, 04:01:18 PM
Sir..WE do have persons who can access images "now"... perhaps not old imaging..[hobbyists here and elsewhere have been scouring images of Antarctica for ...? and some guys even hunt through moon imaging

Would be nice to get more specific location S-E-N-W and ruff distance from a known point?
will ask around the forums...
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 10, 2020, 05:36:24 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html)


"This is important because it also means that 15 percent of the population can no longer become infected," said Streeck when presenting the interim results.


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSuedkorea-verwundert-mit-Reaktivierung-article21707364.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSuedkorea-verwundert-mit-Reaktivierung-article21707364.html)


The virus has "reactivated" - which is a contradiction to German knowledge.








Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 10, 2020, 10:16:38 PM
Psssst Lanca
this is really good stuff /news ...IMO supporting ionophores and cure [HCQ etc]
Apparently Duncan's "questionable link" info above  [my opinion/writing yesterday]has much more support ..from Dr.s on the front line .
quote from member Lost_Bro
snip

  Good day All:

Interesting reinterpretation of the COVID-19 infection M.O.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4u1LJQ7_k&t=172s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4u1LJQ7_k&t=172s)

Seems that the Fe atom contained within the Hemoglobin is 'sequestered'.  Since Hemoglobin without Fe is not functional (zero O2 transport), the patient begins to asphyxiate (almost like altitude sickness). The dislocated Fe forms 'Porphyrin'.  Intense poisoning of lung tissue occurs due to inability of CO2>O2 exchange leading to inflammation/ground glass appearance in the lungs.  So it would appear that the COVID-19 is a systemic blood poison and not the direct cause of a pneumonia/ARDS.

Seems that the Malaria plasmid also attaches itself to the Fe in the Hemoglobin causing the Malaria illness.  Interesting that the HCQ will protect/shield the Fe in the Hemoglobin and thereby prevent the Malaria infection (oversimplified description).   

take care, peace
lost_bro
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 11, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
Sir..WE do have persons who can access images "now"... perhaps not old imaging..[hobbyists here and elsewhere have been scouring images of Antarctica for ...? and some guys even hunt through moon imaging

Would be nice to get more specific location S-E-N-W and ruff distance from a known point?
will ask around the forums...
hi ramset,
The only thing i know related to location China->Guangzhou(State)->Wuhan->Hubei(This is where it all started).
There are other conspiracy theory originated from China whom had sent a Woman scientist to Canada to study on virology.Upon returning to China this person was placed in charge of a team.But after the viral outbreak this key person suddenly disappeared.This article was posted by someone in China read to me by my local Chinese friend whom like seeing gossip article through phone.

Unfortunately only Canada can verify if this story is valid and the person identity.
--------------------------------------
Today i am a little lost after reading about Amazon tribe living deep in forest far away from civilization getting infected with the Covid-19 virus.How the hell this is possible?
 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11369883/boy-first-coronavirus-case-remote-amazon-tribes/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11369883/boy-first-coronavirus-case-remote-amazon-tribes/)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 11, 2020, 05:00:28 PM
How is this possible ?
Konrad Lorenz : behaviour research,ethology
Mimikry
Ants borouhg/burg-berg/hill/mountain = 1 population " physiological " one body" ~ clones ( re-/production)

Apes ("Father"): when one gets in his  conscious evolution development an improvement the ape group/family particiates
tele-pathic/-gen-etik ~ gets same level

Transmission system micro-bio-cosmos ?

Mosquitos can "taste/smell/emphaise" a warm-blood animal from up to 50 Km = 50 000 mtrs distance,I have reed
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 11, 2020, 05:35:43 PM
Magpwr
Been asking at topics where open source investigators
Gather to view google imaging .
Seems a daunting task (one image of area below)
Will pass along your additional info


Chet
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 11, 2020, 06:03:04 PM
Magpwr
Been asking at topics where open source investigators
Gather to view google imaging .
Seems a daunting task (one image of area below)
Will pass along your additional info


Chet
hi,
Thanks for the help.Sincerely.As Asian i do not have any other means to communicate with someone from Europe countries.

Please see youtube description.
Chinese scientists says COVID-19/coronavirus could have originated from government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC0gww2yznI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC0gww2yznI)
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All of us are suffering since i really hate wearing mask.sorry.One of the main reason why i am doing all this because i notice globally domestic violence is increasing because of this virus outbreak and someone need to pay the HEAVY PRICE dearly.Sometimes i can even hear families quarreling through my window.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 11, 2020, 06:46:45 PM
Mgpwr forgot to mention member Jimboot from Australia provided image [and asked for more specific location details]
yes trying times for families and close proximity...and I agree on wearing masks...!'{

respectfully Chet K
Ps from Member Grumpy ...China news ?- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnq7854jTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnq7854jTo)
also more from member  Lost Bro ...interview with Immunologist extraordinaire [ long Vid... "virus specific' info starts at 25 min mark  Brilliant Dr ...could use time stamps for relevant info..mixed in with "chit chat"...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiM1YYIPCo&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiM1YYIPCo&t=2s)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 12, 2020, 01:37:55 AM
Mgpwr forgot to mention member Jimboot from Australia provided image [and asked for more specific location details]
yes trying times for families and close proximity...and I agree on wearing masks...!'{

respectfully Chet K
Ps from Member Grumpy ...China news ?- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnq7854jTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGnq7854jTo)
also more from member  Lost Bro ...interview with Immunologist extraordinaire [ long Vid... "virus specific' info starts at 25 min mark  Brilliant Dr ...could use time stamps for relevant info..mixed in with "chit chat"...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiM1YYIPCo&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiM1YYIPCo&t=2s)
hi Ramset,
Base on the youtube link i provided earlier.I have attached the Wuhan market details picture provided from screenshot around 57second into video.
This is the best i got with no location.
Looks like the market was conveniently used as a distraction.
The Corona virus is found in the intestine of the Horseshoe bat species in China.Scientist from other countries mentioned the DNA is 96% match.I don't know what happen to the other 4%.
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I personally find that WHO spokesman speaks like a typical news reader with no facial expression.Useless info with hardly any action.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 12, 2020, 01:42:13 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology)


Continuing this work over a period of years, researchers from the Institute sampled thousands of horseshoe bats in locations across China, isolating over 300 bat coronavirus sequences.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#cite_note-nature2017-7)
In 2015, a team including scientists from the Institute published successful research on whether a bat coronavirus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHC014-CoV) could be made to infect HeLa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa). The team engineered a hybrid virus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(virus)), combining a bat coronavirus with a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and mimic human disease. The hybrid virus was able to infect human cells.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#cite_note-8)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#cite_note-9)


In December 2019, cases of pneumonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia) associated with an unknown coronavirus were reported to health authorities in Wuhan. The Institute checked its coronavirus collection and found the new virus was 96 percent identical to a sample its researchers had taken from horseshoe bats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_bat) in southwest China.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology#cite_note-11)




From the given data it is to remark that this is an international reknown laboratory ! With scientifical cooperation with international Universities !




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa) to implant such a potential is riscfull !


These were the ] first human [  cells grown in a lab that were naturally "immortal", meaning that they do not die after a set number of cell divisions (i.e. cellular senescence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_senescence)).[/size]


Hybrid -mixture ; virus + human : metabolism
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 12, 2020, 01:44:42 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology)
hi,
Thank you.You help find the location of the lab in Wuhan-Hubei near the market.Everyone please let the world know about it.
---------------------------------
Japan minister is paying all their Japanese companies base  in China to move out of China and go elsewhere or come back to Japan.
I hope all other countries follow suit.

One of the main reason -Supply chain disruption.This is what happen if all production is coming from China.Let this be a lesson for all countries.------------------------
I do hope all the Europe countries join forces and make China pay for all the damages and we are still not out of this mess yet.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on April 12, 2020, 03:32:55 PM

Hi everyone,

Now there is 3 different of strain of the ccp virus.Type A,B and C.

Type A is the actual virus from Wuhan. Type B and C is the mutated form of the virus.

3 types of the CCP virus are spreading; Chinese province plans to add 52,000 quarantine rooms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrVoxNB9gQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrVoxNB9gQ)


This is the link to know the global infection/death statistics.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 12, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
regardless the strain the MO is the same for inhibiting Corona
a must watch vid which summarizes MEDCRAM vid 32 [shared by Verpies]

ZINC !!and zinc ionophore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnZI4i8vf4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnZI4i8vf4E)
testimonials from medical field globally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCD9LV8FmC8
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 12, 2020, 08:28:29 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FHeinsberg-Studie-entraetselt-Coronavirus-article21704605.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FHeinsberg-Studie-entraetselt-Coronavirus-article21704605.html)


Another important finding of the researchers: once you have survived the virus, it is rid of it - "the virus does not lie dormant in the body," said Gunther Hartmann from the University Hospital Bonn, who is also involved in the study.It is also possible to achieve so-called herd immunity.In this case, a pathogen disappears from a population when 60 to 70 percent of the population are immune.However, Hartmann emphasizes, immunity to Sars-CoV-2 only lasts for six to 18 months.Therefore, the goal of herd immunity should "take place in a manageable period".


from 100% members from a population 70% immunization is by risc/chance ratio the "VFolks health"  target ,from epidemiologic view




A.


when the virus is not dormant : how refreshes the body the immuno-anti-body ?

when not as virus as virion dormant ? sleeper ? like a "trojan",hybris  ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPlasmodien (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPlasmodien)



B.


how much time to reach these 60/70% target ?

 With high risc group semi-/isolation(separation)


C.


 " ...... immunity to Sars-CoV-2 only lasts for six to 18 months. ...." periodically health system injection-program ? for ever ?


1 national population x 0,7 ( = 70% immunization quote) : 0,5 (= 1/2 year immunization) =      1,4 times population injection-doses per year


                                                                                    : 1,5 (= 1,5 years immunization)= +- 0,5 times population injection-doses per year




What is actual the price for 1 injection-dose to pay ? for 50 millions,75 millions,........    national habitants number ?




Costs per day: only during hospital treatment ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffuturezone.at%2Fscience%2Fpotenzielle-corona-medikamente-billig-zu-produzieren%2F400810670 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffuturezone.at%2Fscience%2Fpotenzielle-corona-medikamente-billig-zu-produzieren%2F400810670)


Cheap medication


The analysis published in the Journal of Virus Eradication has been released and anticipates drug treatment costs of less than $ 1.50 a day.
For an entire treatment cycle, the patient incurs manufacturing costs of $ 0.30 to a maximum of $ 31.
 "All these Medicines are really cheap to manufacture, "summarizes Andrew Hill of the University of Liverpool put the results together.

6 of 8 Medications (remdesivir, lopinavir / ritonavir, hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, azithromycin, sofosbuvir / daclatasvir) cost less than a dollar a day, many of them just a few cents. This also has to do with the fact that for some of those already used for other diseases Medicines the patent has already expired - so they can be manufactured generically.


Two-tier medicine as a problem


A potential problem could arise that many of the drug studies that are now being carried out are protected by patents. This could drive up the cost of a dedicated anti-corona drug as well as bottlenecks caused by the millions of needs, warn the scientists.

How expensive a Medicines for patients also depend on the respective healthcare system. Because while said Active ingredients in some countries only cost between $ 0.20 and $ 510, you have to in the USA for the same Pay for drugs from $ 19 to $ 18,610. The researchers are therefore afraid that especially in countries like that USA poorer are excluded from treatment.


SOMEBODY HAS EVER TO PAY AN  ?  WAY OF LIFE


"pills/drugs" as new estatal registred and approved  "currency"
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on April 12, 2020, 08:42:23 PM
Quote
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bottom-donald-trump-coronavirus

Quote
Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, which he once dismissed as a hoax, has been fiercely criticised at home as woefully inadequate to the point of irresponsibility.
Yet also thanks largely to Trump, a parallel disaster is unfolding across the world: the ruination of America’s reputation as a safe, trustworthy, competent international leader and partner.
Call it the Trump double-whammy. Diplomatically speaking, the US is on life support.
“The Trump administration’s self-centred, haphazard, and tone-deaf response [to Covid-19] will end up costing Americans trillions of dollars and thousands of otherwise preventable deaths,” wrote Stephen Walt, professor of international relations at Harvard.
“But that’s not the only damage the United States will suffer. Far from ‘making America great again’, this epic policy failure will further tarnish [its] reputation as a country that knows how to do things effectively.”

Some leaders rise to the occasion, some blame others for there own incompetence and throw all there allies under the bus... sad, very sad.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 12, 2020, 09:28:37 PM
the above Political links from Onepower an example of useless information for fighting spread .
here an example of UP TO DATE Useful info again
 
regardless the strain the MO is the same for inhibiting Corona.......a must watch vid which summarizes MEDCRAM vid 32 [shared by Verpies]

ZINC !!and zinc ionophore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnZI4i8vf4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnZI4i8vf4E)
testimonials from medical field globally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCD9LV8FmC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCD9LV8FmC8)     
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 12, 2020, 09:32:47 PM
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/supplement-guide-zinc#1 (https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/supplement-guide-zinc#1)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on April 13, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
One of Planets premiere immunologists Professor Didlier Raoult releasing study of 1061 patients...

http://covexit.com/professor-didier-raoult-releases-the-results-of-a-new-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-study-on-1061-patients/?fbclid=IwAR3bW6h6RnnQuhIrmWYUpL17SPzTLGgISnd8Za5nWf-Koo1cZdEHKjTqcl0#.XpNCOyBrGzo.facebook
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on April 13, 2020, 09:42:57 PM
By neutral numbers relativity it is to remark a high " 9 days observation mortality quote/number" in average to a geral comparison with available " Germany Sterberate" :


for 9 days and 1061cases by average demography = 0,3 mortals ( not % but = equivalent 1 death in 30 days observation for 1061 cases)

The french study writed about 5 deaths in this 9 days period

5/0,3 = the higher "body erosion"  related specific risc-group % of death(74 years + and pre-diseases)


German Heinsberg :

0,37% mortaliy calculated by study ( do not know their methods: observation period,cases, ...)
SUSPECT ? John Hopkins calculates with 2% mortality quote,

                          ::)   before Virologists Corona- Gouvernment  ::)


                                                 Im Durchschnitt(Autsch :P )

930 000 death cases from average 83 000 000 GERMANY inhabitants,population average age 45 years profie  =     
                               
                                      1,12% Sterbequote /mortality quote
                                       8)    0,37%  ≤  1,12 % ≤  2,0 %    8)



                                              ( 0,37% + 2,0 %) /2 = 1,185 %       


                                              1,12/1,185 = 0,945 

                                              exclusive measurements errors and +- 5% preservation

                                              other ratios/relationships

                                              40% Heinsberg /60% John Hopkins = 1,348%

                                              60% Heinsberg/40% John Hopkins = 1,022%


There are ones which wants to read from numbers "Apocalypse" and others which makes with and about  number/s total TV-series,for fun and animation !

                                              Statistical average 1,12% for a 365 days period
                                              with seasonal highs and lows : AMPLITUDE       

                                                          cold/wet and hot/dry   

                                                  Female and male cycle/period

                                                          men + construction
                                                          men + destruction

                                     GZSZ   : GUTE ZEITEN SCHLECHTE ZEITEN
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on April 18, 2020, 11:06:21 PM
Here is some useful information...
Below is a graph of Covid-19 infections in Canada, this is what happens when people actually listen to the experts and work together.

Meanwhile the U.S. is really winning with virus infections at 723,729 infected and near 40,000 dead. In fact the U.S has more dead than Canada has infections and trump wants to go back to business as usual immediately?, *facepalm*.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on May 02, 2020, 08:49:23 PM
contribution from member Lost-bro
comments plus HCQ info from effected areas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXM821iBrI&feature=youtu.be&t=561
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 03, 2020, 06:27:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249423622478925830.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249423622478925830.html)

So we can assume that the negative "Corona-pandemia" effect is based by a "Genetical Enginered Super-virus",a potential fusion from Corona viriae and HIV,
an Anti-Immune-Defense-System organism !


                                                                                 SHCO14-CoV  The EPOCH TIMES 21:45

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAutoimmunerkrankung)

The question is :


an unwished outbreak from this virus from labs ?


an human experiment ? The chinese people and international business agents and tourists worldwide movement ab-/using !?


an internal chinese civil conflict between military administration(even inside the military adminidtration) and political communist party administration !




So it is the chinese Leadership their obligation to analyze their own steps since 12,11,2015 when a Pasteur Institute/Paris,France scientist warned


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249423622478925830.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249423622478925830.html) 22:45


about the pandemic potential,this virus spread by accident or Genozid operation as (industrial-)military strategy !




wmbr


OCWL
p.s: probably all 3000+VOLKSKONGRESS delegates "deport" to Austral(i)a,there -from Port Darwin pilgrim to Ayers Rock


https://www.google.com/search?q=distance+port+darwin+to+ayers+rock&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=distance+port+darwin+to+ayers+rock&aqs=chrome..69i57.14104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=distance+port+darwin+to+ayers+rock&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=distance+port+darwin+to+ayers+rock&aqs=chrome..69i57.14104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


                                       :)  haben die Zuhause laenger Ruhe von den "Gross-Kopferten


 and please the A(r)boriginees to go to this rock ,his,highest point to reach the highest overview over TRAUMZEIT(-Kontinent Godwana) ::)


 then they can pilgrim back and learn to making much "beijings",portuguese " beijus": Pe-King 8) ~kiss,Awake-kisses (R)



Eurodance-party   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYOnCYeTfk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYOnCYeTfk)          ,at 06:30 am



entering  ;) 


https://www.google.com/search?q=wassermann+epoche&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=wassermann+epoche&aqs=chrome..69i57.6920j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=wassermann+epoche&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=wassermann+epoche&aqs=chrome..69i57.6920j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)




                       flower power
Tironische Noten applied with/by Sibyliniche Verse/Sibyllinichen Buechern ~ Rosett-Stein -,Effect ? runen !?
Civil line ,Menschheits-Geschichte




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https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Geheimdienste-werfen-China-Vertuschung-vor-article21755577.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Geheimdienste-werfen-China-Vertuschung-vor-article21755577.html)


Gentechnik : "Schere" / "Spritze"/..........


https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10336177A1/de (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10336177A1/de)


Die chinesische Administration braucht gar nichts dazu beigetragen zu haben,aus der Erkenntnis des franzoesischen Institut Pasteur und der chinesischen Wissenschaftlerin ist davon mit hoher Sicherheit auszugehen,dasz diese Mikroorganismen von selbst sich verschmolzen haben,Zellkern Corona  :-*  Zellplasma HIV-Neugenerierung
( das Beispiel Bluemchen/Biene waere hier zu kindisch  ;D ) !


Kannibalistische Galaxien ! Wirklich ? Oder koppulierende ,sich verschmelzende,Galaxien !?

Da lacht der "Grosse Hund"  8) !


MAKE LOVE,NOT WAR : KOSMOS-UNIVERSAL,aber mit Kondom und Kaugummi(Galaxien  :o  Gluon ;D ) :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on May 03, 2020, 03:55:53 PM
Lanca, 
new laws for Germany [probably the world] ? [thx to member Johan 1955 for link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g)

also Newsweek Dr "F" ...and building a better Virus ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo)
apparently this Wuhan work was funded by quite a few countries ...
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: citfta on May 03, 2020, 05:20:18 PM
Please read this and then if you live in the U.S. contact your senators and representatives and send them the link and ask them to consider filing charges of treason against Dr. Fauci.


https://www.raptureforums.com/politics-culture-wars/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die/ (https://www.raptureforums.com/politics-culture-wars/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die/)




Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: conradelektro on May 03, 2020, 05:38:02 PM
Lanca, 
new laws for Germany [probably the world] ? [thx to member Johan 1955 for link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g)

In this forum there are many who talk about the badness of the world like silly juveniles (big oil is controlling all, the government is hiding free energy, UFOs are hidden by whomever, and so on), but they do not see the simple truth:

In times of war and crisis human rights are thrown out and brutality rules.

Normal actions in a crisis (no conspiracies), all that happened during the spanish flu: the true number of virus victims are not reported correctly (sometimes higher, sometimes lower, whatever was needed to justify actions), the economy is more important than people dying and useless vaccines and cures will be injected to calm people.

You will wish for free energy and OFU conspiracies, they are harmless. But during war and crisis harm is done, to you and me.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 03, 2020, 08:59:04 PM
Lanca, 
new laws for Germany [probably the world] ? [thx to member Johan 1955 for link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gIL7ocX6g)

also Newsweek Dr "F" ...and building a better Virus ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y8dlhoMpo)
apparently this Wuhan work was funded by quite a few countries ...


Astronauts,Kosmonauts and other expressions for startourists comes when they travel back to Planet Earth into Quarantaene-phase,probably bringing "all-organism" by their body to Earth.


What is about thousands of satellits-rests  falling each hour/day to Earth,astro-microorganism contaminated ?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=nROvXpbkMdeU8gLkpqfADw&q=satellite+rests+falling+to+earth&oq=satellite+rests+falling+to+earth&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIICCEQFhAdEB4yCAghEBYQHRAeMggIIRAWEB0QHjIICCEQFhAdEB4yCAghEBYQHRAeMggIIRAWEB0QHjoECAAQRzoCCAA6BggAEBYQHjoECAAQQzoECAAQEzoFCCEQoAE6BAghEBVQk84BWJfgAmDA-gJoAHACeAOAAdMBiAG4K5IBBjQuMzcuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQA&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjWpsuor5jpAhVXilwKHWTTCfgQ4dUDCAw&uact=5 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=nROvXpbkMdeU8gLkpqfADw&q=satellite+rests+falling+to+earth&oq=satellite+rests+falling+to+earth&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIICCEQFhAdEB4yCAghEBYQHRAeMggIIRAWEB0QHjIICCEQFhAdEB4yCAghEBYQHRAeMggIIRAWEB0QHjoECAAQRzoCCAA6BggAEBYQHjoECAAQQzoECAAQEzoFCCEQoAE6BAghEBVQk84BWJfgAmDA-gJoAHACeAOAAdMBiAG4K5IBBjQuMzcuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXqwAQA&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjWpsuor5jpAhVXilwKHWTTCfgQ4dUDCAw&uact=5)




https://www.google.com/search?q=andromeda+movie&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=andromeda+movie&aqs=chrome..69i57.6886j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=andromeda+movie&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=andromeda+movie&aqs=chrome..69i57.6886j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)




Intelligence and "organism-Wesen": how great they have to be ?


Akte X/X-Files
Babylon5


Not as body to seen as "aliens" but as inside "character" !?

Ich bin nicht euer Lakai,besteht Interesse,selber uebersetzen !

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/coronavirus-wissenschaft-ist-keine-wunschmaschine-kolumne-a-425ad493-7649-49f7-93a2-c04fcc22ef8a (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/coronavirus-wissenschaft-ist-keine-wunschmaschine-kolumne-a-425ad493-7649-49f7-93a2-c04fcc22ef8a)

energy is matter    matter is energy


in a circuit : energy is accelerated/decelerated energy  push/pull limit : energy becomes matter inside/outside the circuit


https://alpoma.net/tecob/?p=1099 (https://alpoma.net/tecob/?p=1099)


https://archive.org/details/memorialsscient01crosgoog/page/n8/mode/2up (https://archive.org/details/memorialsscient01crosgoog/page/n8/mode/2up)




Kompliziert ? Complicated ? Or only logical ?


google,entering: physics ure/URE


Bilder
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=physics+URE&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN3PKZspjpAhVHSsAKHSraDvMQsAR6BAgHEAE&biw=1366&bih=636 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=physics+URE&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN3PKZspjpAhVHSsAKHSraDvMQsAR6BAgHEAE&biw=1366&bih=636)


Images
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=physics+URE+images&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI_d3hspjpAhUTT8AKHbfND_wQsAR6BAgIEAE&biw=1366&bih=636 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=physics+URE+images&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI_d3hspjpAhUTT8AKHbfND_wQsAR6BAgIEAE&biw=1366&bih=636)


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.absolutist.elitegamesnet.splittyadventures.partners&hl=da (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.absolutist.elitegamesnet.splittyadventures.partners&hl=da)


https://www.nature.com/nphys/ (https://www.nature.com/nphys/)


https://www.google.com/search?q=physics+URE+images+researchgate.net+PoCa&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwizl_-Ps5jpAhUIlBoKHXOJB9EQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=physics+URE+images+researchgate.net+PoCa&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDFDD4QZY1PkGYIWNB2gAcAB4AIABnQGIAbIEkgEDMS40mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ei=mxevXvPdO4ioavOSnogN&bih=636&biw=1366&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797 (https://www.google.com/search?q=physics+URE+images+researchgate.net+PoCa&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwizl_-Ps5jpAhUIlBoKHXOJB9EQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=physics+URE+images+researchgate.net+PoCa&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDFDD4QZY1PkGYIWNB2gAcAB4AIABnQGIAbIEkgEDMS40mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ei=mxevXvPdO4ioavOSnogN&bih=636&biw=1366&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797)


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256379156_Physics_Today (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256379156_Physics_Today)


as explaination for : https://foreverspin.com/?c=ss1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxuSN4rOY6QIVDa1RCh3ALQUgEAEYASAAEgKlAvD_BwE (https://foreverspin.com/?c=ss1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxuSN4rOY6QIVDa1RCh3ALQUgEAEYASAAEgKlAvD_BwE) ?




https://www.askdifference.com/explaination-vs-explanation/ (https://www.askdifference.com/explaination-vs-explanation/)  ;)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_(TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_(TV_series)) If U do not understand,ask your generation-next/over-next ;) :)


Aeh,not right entry,but also interestant : http://borealis.gr/ (http://borealis.gr/) I was in search for :  http://www.borealis.com/ (http://www.borealis.com/) Avto metals !


https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hutchison-effect-nikola-tesla-inspires-a-bizarre-discovery (https://www.gaia.com/article/the-hutchison-effect-nikola-tesla-inspires-a-bizarre-discovery)


https://www.rt.com/business/445930-gold-melting-room-temperature/ (https://www.rt.com/business/445930-gold-melting-room-temperature/)

Virologists Future-cocktail :
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-und-andere-zoonoseerreger-gerd-mueller-bundesentwicklungsminister-warnt-vor-den-gefahren-a-e4e42281-4ad1-460f-9ad3-818117be37b6 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-und-andere-zoonoseerreger-gerd-mueller-bundesentwicklungsminister-warnt-vor-den-gefahren-a-e4e42281-4ad1-460f-9ad3-818117be37b6)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on May 06, 2020, 07:19:56 PM
Some observations...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-coronavirus-1.5554837
https://globalnews.ca/news/6905396/coronavirus-us-deaths-projections/

Notice that the U.S. has become the epicenter for the virus at 1.23M infected and 72,024 deaths. Thus have basically proven they are completely incompetent and incapable of doing what is required to act responsibly on a national scale. Here in Canada were almost flatlined and ready to open the economy back up because we listened to our experts. Key word... listen.

As well, note that most countries with far right populist leaders such as the U.S., U.K. and Brazil have large rising numbers which put other countries like Italy to shame. It's not the virus it's there arrogance and anti-science attitude which is to blame in my opinion. I mean even a fool should be able to understand that one infected person in a crowd will infect the crowd. Yet they just can't seem to get it through there thick skull and just keep pretending nothing is wrong and it won't effect them.

People need to stop blaming others and make believe causes and start acting like responsible adults in my opinion.

Meanwhile in Texas there ignorance to the facts has come home to roost. First there denial of Covid caused them to become the winningest new infected/death zone in the U.S..https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-sets-record-for-most-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases-over-a-two-consecutive-day-period/269-fdf0df61-93c2-45b5-ae42-3cb7b1ab8767

Now there seeing climate change kick in as well, https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/03/27/south-record-heat/. So let's recap, viral pandemic, broken economy with record unemployment, heat waves, drought/flooding and the only thing really missing is the locust plagues. A person has to wonder... at what point does it sink in?, how bad does it have to get before a person realizes there false beliefs are bs and they did this to themselves?.

I will tell you what, I don't believe in a judgement day or end times but this ain't far from it. There is no free lunch here and all the stupid stuff we have been doing is now starting to come full circle... we own this, we did this to ourselves.

Regards
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: citfta on May 06, 2020, 08:11:32 PM
So I see AC is here with another user name.  So I  will repeat the same thing I posted at OUR when he posted his nonsense over there.  Only
a completely total dumbass would compare the spread of a disease in a country of 37 million people to a country of 331 million people.  Or to
put it another way Canada has a population density of 3 people per square mile.  The U.S has a population density of 84 people per square
mile.  Trying to compare those two vastly different population densities is ridiculous.  Once again AC/Onepower has demonstrated his ignorance
of the real world.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on May 07, 2020, 01:59:23 AM
Citfa
Quote
So I see AC is here with another user name.  So I  will repeat the same thing I posted at OUR when he posted his nonsense over there. 

Yes I have a different username here because my old profile stopped working and was corrupted somehow, as Chris pointed out many times here yes I am AC. A better question would be how could you not know it was me?. I can spot you a mile away under any username my friend.

Quote
Only a completely total dumbass would compare the spread of a disease in a country of 37 million people to a country of 331 million people.  Or to
put it another way Canada has a population density of 3 people per square mile.  The U.S has a population density of 84 people per square
mile.  Trying to compare those two vastly different population densities is ridiculous.  Once again AC/Onepower has demonstrated his ignorance
of the real world.

It doesn't work quite that that way Citfa and the only true indication of how well a country is doing is the Covid-19 cases and deaths per million population.

The Data say's Canada has 102 deaths per million and the U.S. has double that at 211 deaths per million. The U.S also has a little over twice as many infected per million of population which is expected. From this we can say regardless of the population Canada's infection and death rate is only half that of the U.S.

However, this is the kicker, Canada is almost flatlined and only has 272 new cases and 189 deaths today with the numbers falling. Meanwhile the U.S. has 18,468 new cases and 2076 deaths with these numbers rising. In fact the numbers are expected to rise by over 30% in the U.S. in the next few months as they prematurely open up the economy.

I would agree a larger population is a factor however if this were true then China and India should see massive infected/death numbers considering they have over three times the population of the U.S but there numbers are relatively small compared to the U.S.. If your theory were true, by the numbers then we should see literally hundreds of thousands of dead due to Covid in India and China but we do not.

It would seem to me the only real determining factor is common sense regardless of the population density. This is a viral pandemic and in the real world the virus doesn't care what you believe or your politics... it's a virus.

Regards
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: citfta on May 07, 2020, 03:19:05 AM
Wow!!!  You sure seem determined to prove to anyone reading this thread that you don't have even a basic understanding of how diseases
are[size=78%] [/size]spread.  Of course we have a higher infection rate.  If you can, just do the math.  Our population density is 30 times the population
density of Canada's.  That means we have a much higher chance of being exposed to someone that has Covid19.  I have a 10 year old
granddaughter that understands that.


You keep saying we are not following good guidelines to prevent the spread of this disease.  What do you suggest we do?  We have shut
the country down to the point of destroying our economy for over 6 weeks.  We have made it mandatory in almost the whole country for
 people to stay home except for essential travel.  When I do have to go out for essential things like food or medicine I see people
everywhere wearing masks.  When I go to Kroger or Walmart I see separate lines for people going into the store to keep them away from
 people going out of the store.  I see people at both entrances with tablets counting how many go in and how many go out so they can
make sure the store does not have too many people in it.  I see aisles marked one-way so you have to only go down one aisle and up the
 next so you don't pass someone in the same aisle.  I see empty shelves everywhere because people are trying to get what they need when
 it is in stock.  I see meat shelves empty because we shut down meat packing plants because some of the employees tested positive for
Covid19.


Obviously you are getting your information from the lying fake news media.  Well I live HERE and you don't so I am going to tell you once
again to take your superior know it all attitude and stick where the sun don't shine.  Because what I see is you don't have a clue what is
actually going on in OUR country.


Carroll
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on May 07, 2020, 08:13:07 AM
Citfa
Quote
Wow!!!  You sure seem determined to prove to anyone reading this thread that you don't have even a basic understanding of how diseases
are[size=78%] [/size]spread.  Of course we have a higher infection rate.  If you can, just do the math.  Our population density is 30 times the population
density of Canada's.  That means we have a much higher chance of being exposed to someone that has Covid19.  I have a 10 year old
granddaughter that understands that.

So if the U.S population is 320 million and Canada is 37 million and 320 divided by 37 equals 8.6 not 30 then apparently your 10 year old granddaughter doesn't understand math. Of course she is only 10 years old so it is understandable however I would think you as a supposed adult would have caught such an obvious error.

Quote
Obviously you are getting your information from the lying fake news media.  Well I live HERE and you don't so I am going to tell you once
again to take your superior know it all attitude and stick where the sun don't shine.  Because what I see is you don't have a clue what is
actually going on in OUR country.

Lying fake news, of course... lol.

I know what's going on in your country, decades of illegal wars for profit, the global illegal sales of weapons and drugs, carpet bombing god damn women and children in your oil wars, cherry picking people off the street and detaining them without legal council then torturing them. Torture... do you have any comprehension how sick and degenerate a person would have to become to do such a thing let alone debate it's virtues in your senate?. We don't debate torture in Canada, we send those responsible to prison... do you understand?.

What kind of degenerate, psychotic, worthless piece of shit would torture another human being.... apparently your country dude, you own that shit.






Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 07, 2020, 09:05:43 AM
onepower,being right or being worng depends often by perceptive view point !


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=7rKzXquGGM2SjLsP7LaloA8&q=perception+image&oq=perception+image&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDDIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzoECAAQRzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEBYQHlDOU1ibYmDpcmgAcAJ4AIABf4gBnwWSAQMyLjSYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwirtZjol6HpAhVNCWMBHWxbCfQQ4dUDCAw (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&ei=7rKzXquGGM2SjLsP7LaloA8&q=perception+image&oq=perception+image&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDDIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzIECAAQEzoECAAQRzoCCAA6BAgAEEM6BggAEBYQHlDOU1ibYmDpcmgAcAJ4AIABf4gBnwWSAQMyLjSYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwirtZjol6HpAhVNCWMBHWxbCfQQ4dUDCAw)




At first thinking about the U.S.A. and Canada geographical :
https://www.laenderdaten.de/geographie/flaeche_staaten.aspx (https://www.laenderdaten.de/geographie/flaeche_staaten.aspx)


Second thinking about population numbers in both Confederations :
https://www.laenderdaten.de/bevoelkerung/einwohner.aspx (https://www.laenderdaten.de/bevoelkerung/einwohner.aspx)


By sqKm U.S.A./ Canada = +- 1/1 geophysical total/land ratio                      Acceptance ?!


By population U.S.A./Canada =


by pure population  332,7/37,7 = +- 9/1


by population density same as above when 1/1


But is citfa writing "30 times higher" meaning                       "estates comparison or estate/locality or region"          comparison ? "!"



Wow!!!  You sure seem determined to prove to anyone reading this thread that you don't have even a basic understanding of how diseasesare spread. 
Of course we have a higher infection rate.  If you can, just do the math.  Our population density is 30 times the population density of Canada's. 
That means we have a much higher chance of being exposed to someone that has Covid19.  I have a 10 year oldgranddaughter that understands that.


Canada "population density" https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/canada-population/ (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/canada-population/)    The population density in Canada is 4 per Km2 (11 people per mi


                                                                                                                                                  37,7 Mio.habitants/9,093 Mio. sqm


30 times x "4 per sqKm" =                       120 habitants per sqKm 


https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/ (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/)   The population density in the United States is 36 per Km2


" I have a 10 year oldgranddaughter that understands that."


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 I think today by good mental perception it begins with kids of 2 years + to understand that !  ;)  ? : beginning point-mark search for final mark-point : find !



















Wo sich die Schlange in den Schwanz beisst,die Katze und einer der sich extra Rippen entfernen liess um sich selbst einen runter zu holen : Geist-Reich


mana-mana,tututu,mana-mana,tututitu


sa mana samana  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ytei6bu7kQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ytei6bu7kQ)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Johan_1955 on May 07, 2020, 10:22:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSnvZB7MbgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSnvZB7MbgE)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWwRvb3-ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWwRvb3-ow)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASji-S5XyF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASji-S5XyF8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: citfta on May 07, 2020, 12:00:54 PM

AC/onepower

Population density means the number of people per square mile.  Canada has a population density of 3 people per square mile.  The U.S. has a population density of 84 people per square mile.  So the U.S. has a population density of almost 30 times the population density of Canada.   You sure like to make yourself look foolish.  And as I said before that makes it much more likely one of us will come in contact with someone else that has the virus.


Throwing in all the other stuff about wars and other things is known as trying to redirect the argument because you know you are losing.  None of that has anything to do with the spread of the Covid19 virus.


And I see you still haven't answered my question about what guidelines we haven't followed that according to you have made a difference in Canada versus the U.S.


Carroll
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 07, 2020, 12:06:18 PM
AC/onepower

Population density means the number of people per square mile.  Canada has a population density of 3 people per square mile.  The U.S. has a population density of 84 people per square mile.  So the U.S. has a population density of almost 30 times the population density of Canada.   You sure like to make yourself look foolish.  And as I said before that makes it much more likely one of us will come in contact with someone else that has the virus.


Throwing in all the other stuff about wars and other things is known as trying to redirect the argument because you know you are losing.  None of that has anything to do with the spread of the Covid19 virus.


And I see you still haven't answered my question about what guidelines we haven't followed that according to you have made a difference in Canada versus the U.S.


Carroll


Hello citfa,


#174 shows you other numbers ! By which statistics resource their numbers do you do your statement about "84/3" ratio,from when this numbers ?


Sincerely


OCWL
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 07, 2020, 12:12:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSnvZB7MbgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSnvZB7MbgE)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWwRvb3-ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWwRvb3-ow)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASji-S5XyF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASji-S5XyF8)


Pasteur : ausgehen dasz dieser gemeint ist  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur) welcher lebte von/bis


                       * 27. Dezember (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/27._Dezember) 1822 (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/1822) bis 28. September (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/28._September) 1895 (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/1895)


1895 als Gedanken-Basis : wie hoch war zu dieser Zeit die Aufloesung/Vergroesserungsfaktor von Mikro-Skopen ?
                                        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikroskop (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikroskop)


                                       Welche Groesse erreichen Mikroben/Mikroorganismen,deren Keime,deren Plasmen ?
                                        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikroorganismu (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikroorganismus)s




Plasma : sogenannte "reine Information",so wie sogenannte "Computer viren: neuronale Befehlsverkettung " wohl zu vergleichen aber auch wie die Informations-Einheiten welche von jedem von uns im Alltag abgegeben werden : ein "fuerchterliches" : Ja ! Es,das Haustier,musste beim Tierarzt eingeschlaefert werden ! Wie dieses den Kindern erklaeren ?


Ein "himmeljauchzendes" : Ja ! Sie will Ihn heiraten,worauf er nach mehreren Versuchen und mehrfachen Bitten endlich ein positive Antwort bekommen hat !


Aus dem obigem Louis Pasteur-wikipedia-Artikel : Im Auftrag der französischen Regierung erforschte Pasteur verschiedene Krankheiten der Seidenraupen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seidenspinner#Seidenraupen) und  erkannte sie als Infektionskrankheiten.


Da musz wohl die Art und Weise der "INFEKTION" aus der seinerzeitigen Louis Pasteur Ansicht eroertert werden,wenn nicht durch "Viren" !

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren)
2011 waren etwa 1,8 Millionen verschiedene rezente (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rezent#Biologie) Arten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_(Biologie)#Artenzahl) bekannt, die als Wirt fungieren,[4] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren#cite_note-4) jedoch lediglich um die 3.000 Virenarten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virusklassifikation) identifiziert worden.[5] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren#cite_note-5) Viren befallen Zellen von Eukaryoten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eukaryoten) (Pflanzen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pflanzen), Pilze (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilze), alle Tiere (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiere) einschließlich des Menschen) und Prokaryoten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryoten) (Bakterien (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakterien) und Archaeen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeen)). Viren, die Prokaryoten als Wirte nutzen, werden Bakteriophagen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakteriophagen) genannt; für Viren, die speziell Archaeen befallen, wird aber teilweise auch die Bezeichnung Archaeophagen verwendet.[6] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren#cite_note-6)[7] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viren#cite_note-7)
Die Wissenschaft, die sich mit Viren und Virusinfektionen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virusinfektion) beschäftigt, heißt Virologie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virologie).

Bekannt/identifiziert ratio bis 2011 ! 2011-Mai 2020 ?

Humaner Bioorganismus :
Genom ? Erbsubstanz ? Dr. med. Hirschhausen "humane Biomasse und die Mikroorganismus-Anteiligkeit " !?

Aus dem L.Pasteur Artikel ;
Verstorben 1895 :


Aus dem Viren-Artikel:
Dimitri Iwanowski (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Iossifowitsch_Iwanowski) wies unabhängig von Mayer im Jahr 1892 in einem Experiment nach, dass die Mosaikkrankheit bei Tabakpflanzen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabak_(Gattung))durch einen Stoff ausgelöst werden kann, der durch Filtration (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filtration_(Trennverfahren)) mittels bakteriendichter Filter ([Chamberland (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Chamberland)-Filter) nicht entfernt werden konnte und dessen Partikel deshalb deutlich kleiner als Bakterien sein mussten. Der erste Nachweis eines tierischen Virus gelang 1898 Friedrich Loeffler (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Loeffler_(Mediziner,_1852)) und Paul Frosch (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Frosch), die das Maul-und-Klauenseuche-Virus (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maul-und-Klauenseuche-Virus) entdeckten (siehe auch virologische Diagnostik (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virologische_Diagnostik)). Die Größe vieler Viren wurde in den 1930er Jahren durch William Joseph Elford (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_Elford)mit Methoden der Ultrafiltration (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrafiltration) bestimmt.


Zero positive/Zero negative : aus psychologischer Sichtweise positiv=gluecklich oder negativ=traurig ?
Vom Mittelwert positiv=mehr und negativ =weniger als Durchnitt,zyklisch-chronisch ?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krankheit (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krankheit)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathologie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathologie)


                           Frueher war dieses wohl diese Begriffe darstellend (aktiv,passiv),


      Deologie/Theologie und  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontologische_Ethik (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontologische_Ethik)       https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologie)  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologische_Ethik (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleologische_Ethik)  ;

                                                                                                       Askese :
     Ultra-Jainismus zu extrem Brahmanismus zu max-min ( Dawn-Yates law in der Wirtschaft) Bhuddism zu einfacher alltaeglicher Lebensweise,besonnen und bewusst

Vater = Wesen/Gestalt/Form /Gott/Geist                                   Sohn= Logos entspricht Kundigkeit/Lehre              Heilige Geist = Anwendung/Erscheinung




                           https://www.simplypsychology.org/perception-theories.html (https://www.simplypsychology.org/perception-theories.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: citfta on May 07, 2020, 01:17:37 PM
lancaIV,


I got those figures from this website:  https://www.infoplease.com/world/population-statistics/population-density-square-mile-countries


Carroll
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 07, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
lancaIV,


I got those figures from this website:  https://www.infoplease.com/world/population-statistics/population-density-square-mile-countries (https://www.infoplease.com/world/population-statistics/population-density-square-mile-countries)


Carroll
O-kay,got the key :298,450 Mio./3,540 Mio. sqKm for the U.S.A. and 33,680 Mio./3,560 Mio. sqKm for Canada results in
         84,3                                      divided by                      9,46
Ergo :  84,3/9,46 =  8,91 

         8,91/9 ~ 99%
                         near my 100%

                                                        Quid erat demonstrandis


Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 09, 2020, 12:39:04 PM
im FOCUS  8) ( auch in einem deutschem Magazin) die Praemisse : FAKTEN,FAKTEN,FAKTEN  ( aus dem Mark ein Wort,so wird mein Gastro-System jesund :P )


https://www.spiegel.de/ (https://www.spiegel.de/) theme Coronae viriae und Covid-19


whenn a deutscher Virologe versucht eine 100% Labor-Petrischale Tatsache/Wahrscheinlichkeit zu kalkulieren und zu veroeffentlichen


bedeutet dieses,unter dieser Kondition https://www.google.com/search?q=obduktion+in+deutschland&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=obduktion+in+deutschland&aqs=chrome..69i57.16152j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=obduktion+in+deutschland&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=obduktion+in+deutschland&aqs=chrome..69i57.16152j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


Suchergebnisse

Webergebnisse


Obduktion – Wikipedia
de.wikipedia.org › wiki › Obduktion





In Deutschland werden etwa ein bis zwei Prozent der Toten obduziert .

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

dasz Epidemologen als Berater fuer die Bundesrepublik Deutschland nur mit 2%-1%  ,von 100%,statistischer Wahrscheinlichkeit Thesen abgeben,


                   ergo 99%-98% hypothetische Annahme= Keine Ahnung,keinen blassen Schimmer,haben = terra incognita darstellt !  ;D 








Schoenes Wochenende


Olivier Christo-ph Waldhelm Lancza
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 20, 2020, 11:59:44 PM
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/corona-wie-gut-ist-der-roche-antikoerpertest-den-deutschland-millionenfach-bestellt-a-3d37a6c3-9168-479a-b09a-6f096155ab85 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/corona-wie-gut-ist-der-roche-antikoerpertest-den-deutschland-millionenfach-bestellt-a-3d37a6c3-9168-479a-b09a-6f096155ab85)


Anders als andere Antikörpertests misst er nicht die Reaktion des Immunsystems auf das sogenannte Spike-Eiweiß, mit dem das Virus in Körperzellen einfällt (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-mutationen-betreffen-auch-schluesselprotein-was-das-bedeutet-a-a29c656f-0dd6-4509-aecf-5a4de178d0df), sondern gegen das  Nukleokapsidprotein. "Nach unserem heutigen Kenntnisstand muss es nicht so sein, dass Antikörper gegen dieses Protein eine hohe Assoziation zu einer Immunität haben", sagte Lothar Wieler, Präsident des Robert Koch-Instituts bei einer Pressekonferenz Anfang Mai. Roche beruft sich zwar auf Studien, laut denen Antikörper gegen beide Eiweiße auf eine Immunität hinweisen könnten, sicher ist das jedoch nicht.


Unlike other antibody tests, it does not measure the response of the immune system to the so-called spike protein, with which the virus invades body cells, but against the nucleocapsid protein. "As far as we know today, it does not have to be the case that antibodies against this protein have a high association with immunity," said Lothar Wieler, President of the Robert Koch Institute at a press conference in early May. Roche claims that studies suggest that antibodies to both proteins may indicate immunity, but that is not certain.


https://www.google.com/search?q=capsid+protein&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=capsid+protein&aqs=chrome..69i57.6541j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=capsid+protein&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=capsid+protein&aqs=chrome..69i57.6541j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


https://patents.google.com/patent/US9410145 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9410145)


patent citations : https://patents.google.com/patent/US6562568B1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US6562568B1/en) 1997-10-01 Priority to DE19743518A (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE19743518A1/en)

https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/#/result/publication/DE/59814056/1 (https://globaldossier.uspto.gov/#/result/publication/DE/59814056/1)      https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docPN=EP1019430 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docPN=EP1019430)


                                                                                                          1997-2020 = over 20 years patent validation : free property = open source


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nukleins%C3%A4uren (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nukleins%C3%A4uren)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNukleins%25C3%25A4uren (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNukleins%25C3%25A4uren)


The knowledge of these four nucleic bases should be of essential importance for the later structural elucidation of the DNA. It was Albrecht Kossel who - together with a carbohydrate and phosphoric acid - clearly characterized them as building blocks of nucleic acid:


"I managed to get a series of fragments [...] which are characterized by a very peculiar accumulation of nitrogen atoms. The cytosine, the thymine, the adenine and the guanine are side by side here. "
- Nobel Lecture by Albrecht Kossels on December 12, 1910


........


Frederick Sanger (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Sanger&usg=ALkJrhjzgbRplmNwXPvYSdUjsceH5lHCIg) , Allan Maxam (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Maxam&usg=ALkJrhjYrRs_7pczATf0jFSdj3ejAXQEHg) and Walter Gilbert (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Gilbert&usg=ALkJrhicRA2Nzq4oymy_YFRFmO-ZDbj2lA) independently developed methods in 1977 with which the sequence of the nucleotide building blocks, the sequence (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nukleotidsequenz&usg=ALkJrhg7mp3tOY_49YdPIUGWh747QhMCGw) , could be determined. The chain termination (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA-Sequenzierung&usg=ALkJrhiBp1JRN_iHoYBgvRGW60p6CJl6aw) method is used today in automated processes to sequence DNA.





Chemical structure
orientation

Spatial structure


Natural nucleic acids

Nucleic acids are found in all living organisms. Their job is, among other things, to store the genetic information, the blueprint of the respective organism, to exchange it with others of its type and to pass it on to future generations. DNA does this in all organisms. Only some viruses ( retroviruses (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroviren&usg=ALkJrhjEQ0WhzGlpZfoY4NQcvLm2bTdo2Q) such as HIV (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV&usg=ALkJrhhqWTo9Vnl3F_YIc-Mhv2CNlS4vQQ) ) use the less stable RNA as a storage medium.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genome)


The human genome is a complete set of  nucleic acid sequences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleic_acid_sequence) for humans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans) , encoded as DNA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA) within the 23 chromosome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome) pairs in cell nuclei (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_nuclei)  and in a small DNA molecule found within individual mitochondria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA).
...........




https://www.google.com/search?q=island+habitants+genom+sequence+study&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=island+habitants+genom+sequence+study&aqs=chrome..69i57.17557j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=island+habitants+genom+sequence+study&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=island+habitants+genom+sequence+study&aqs=chrome..69i57.17557j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


                                          GENETIC BIOBANK


                             https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exom (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exom)

In der medizinischen Diagnostik erweist es sich als sinnvoll, anstatt des gesamten Genoms (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genom) nur das Exom zu sequenzieren, da dort nahezu alle krankheitsverursachenden Mutationen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation) zu finden sind, das menschliche Exom aber nur ein Prozent des Genoms ausmacht.

In medical diagnostics, it proves useful to sequence only the exome instead of the entire genome, since almost all disease-causing mutations can be found there, but the human exome makes up only one percent of the genome.






                             https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genom (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genom)




https://www.10xgenomics.com/products/exome/ (https://www.10xgenomics.com/products/exome/)                     https://www.10xgenomics.com/blog/new-chromiumtm-genome-kits-increase-workflow-flexibility (https://www.10xgenomics.com/blog/new-chromiumtm-genome-kits-increase-workflow-flexibility)




Biochemistry and changes,Physio-and/or Psychopharmaceutics  :

https://www.google.com/search?q=this+is+your+brain+on+birth+control&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=f8XAO-iun-DJsM%253A%252ClwLaZDu2e3cMpM%252C%252Fg%252F11f9ym_695&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRgjkmLVXOtygylZ3YuHed5mp4tag&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO8N76w8PpAhWIz4UKHcGNDv0Q_B0wGnoECAUQAw#imgrc=f8XAO-iun-DJsM: (https://www.google.com/search?q=this+is+your+brain+on+birth+control&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=f8XAO-iun-DJsM%253A%252ClwLaZDu2e3cMpM%252C%252Fg%252F11f9ym_695&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRgjkmLVXOtygylZ3YuHed5mp4tag&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO8N76w8PpAhWIz4UKHcGNDv0Q_B0wGnoECAUQAw#imgrc=f8XAO-iun-DJsM:)


https://books.google.pt/books?id=DmeEDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1&hl=de&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=DmeEDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1&hl=de&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false) PAGE 8

                                                                           AND IT IS SHOCKING ::)



https://books.google.pt/books?id=78G6DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100&lpg=PT100&dq=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&source=bl&ots=LAeqYlS5bk&sig=ACfU3U2gPlTdh4DawWZj2y2xdxK-r8XcDQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZj5C8wcPpAhVRJhoKHVUJCZwQ6AEwAHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=maskulin%20anti-baby%20pille&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=78G6DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100&lpg=PT100&dq=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&source=bl&ots=LAeqYlS5bk&sig=ACfU3U2gPlTdh4DawWZj2y2xdxK-r8XcDQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZj5C8wcPpAhVRJhoKHVUJCZwQ6AEwAHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=maskulin%20anti-baby%20pille&f=false)



 Eine Befragung der Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung (http://www.forschung.sexualaufklaerung.de/fileadmin/fileadmin-forschung/pdf/Hintergrundpapier_Verhuetung.pdf) aus dem Jahr 2011 ergab, dass 53 Prozent der Befragten der 18- bis 49-Jährigen die Pille einnehmen und weitere drei Prozent andere hormonelle Methoden verwenden. Unter den 19-Jährigen schlucken gut 70 Prozent die Pille (https://www.tk.de/centaurus/servlet/contentblob/771128/Datei/188234/Pillenreport_2015.pdf).

A survey by the Federal Center for Health Education in 2011 showed that 53 percent of the 18- to 49-year-olds taking the pill and another three percent using other hormonal methods. Among the 19-year-olds, 70 percent swallow the pill  well.

                                                                          Die Pharmaindustrie beeinflusst die Libido der Frauen                                                                                             
                             
                                                                              Anti-action the natural orgasm

                                                             ALLZEIT "BREITBEINIG" BEREIT :-[ :-* ;) :)  BUT FOR FUNNY MOMENTS,NOT COITUS

Tatsache bleibt aber, dass die Pharmaindustrie (https://www.zeit.de/thema/pharmaindustrie) Einfluss auf das sexuelle Begehren von Millionen Frauen nimmt. Frauen, die teilweise noch gar kein Gefühl für die eigene Sexualität haben, werden einem Arzneimittel ausgesetzt, das ihnen, im Gegensatz zu den Versprechungen der Industrie, bei der Erkundung der eigenen Sexualität alles andere als behilflich ist.




https://www.google.com/search?q=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&aqs=chrome..69i57.11622j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=maskulin+anti-baby+pille&aqs=chrome..69i57.11622j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

 Überraschend kam es auch zum Abbruch einer großen Studie der Weltgesundheitsorganisation (http://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit//verhuetung-warum-die-hormonspritze-fuer-maenner-noch-nicht-kommt-a-1119079.html) (WHO) zu einer hormonbasierten Kontrazeptionsmethode für Männer (http://press.endocrine.org/doi/10.1210/jc.2016-2141) im August 2011. Der Grund waren vermehrte Nebenwirkungen wie Depressionen, Gewichtszunahme oder Hautprobleme im Zusammenhang mit der Gabe von Testosteron-Gestagen-Kombinationen. Die Frage, ob diese Wissenschaftler sich einmal die Beipackzettel und Erfahrungsberichte zu den Antibabypillen (https://www.zeit.de/thema/verhuetung) der Frau angesehen haben, sollte erlaubt sein. ::) ;D


https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2017-04/hormonelle-verhuetung-antibabypille-mann-nebenwirkungen-10nach8 (https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2017-04/hormonelle-verhuetung-antibabypille-mann-nebenwirkungen-10nach8)


Lange Zeit galt die Pille als Instrument der sexuellen Befreiung. Doch hormonelle Verhütungsmittel bergen nicht unerhebliche Nebenwirkungen. Neben den Risiken tödlicher Thrombosen und Lungenembolien leben Frauen ganz selbstverständlich mit einer ganzen Bandbreite von Effekten. Darunter die Verminderung der Libido, die viele von ihnen, die die Pille bereits im Teenageralter verschrieben bekommen haben, erst bemerken, wenn sie die Pille absetzen.


For a long time, the pill was considered an instrument of sexual liberation. But hormonal contraceptives have significant side effects. In addition to the risks of fatal thrombosis and pulmonary embolism, women naturally live with a whole range of effects. These include the decrease in libido that many of those who have been prescribed for birth control pills only notice when they stop taking the pill.


https://www.parsemus.org/ (https://www.parsemus.org/)


https://www.parsemus.org/projects/questioning-aromatase-inhibitors/ (https://www.parsemus.org/projects/questioning-aromatase-inhibitors/)


Estrogen is a steroid hormone that affects many areas of the body. Importantly, it influences bone and lipid metabolism, cardiovascular health, cognition and sexual function. Postmenopausal estrogen replacement therapy is known to alleviate vasomotor symptoms like hot flashes, have a positive effect on the prevention of osteoporosis, and result in improved serum lipid profiles and reduced cardiovascular disease factors if started soon after menopause.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogene (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogene)  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEstrogene (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEstrogene)




Bei einigen Tieren wie Fischen und Fröschen wurden unter Einfluss von Estrogenen und Halogenkohlenwasserstoffen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogenkohlenwasserstoffe) künstliche Geschlechtsumwandlungen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschlechtsumwandlung#K%C3%BCnstliche_Geschlechtsumwandlung) beobachtet.[10] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogene#cite_note-bund-10)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogenkohlenwasserstoffe (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogenkohlenwasserstoffe)


Als Halogenkohlenwasserstoffe oder halogenierte Kohlenwasserstoffe werden Kohlenwasserstoffe (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlenwasserstoffe) bezeichnet, bei denen mindestens ein Wasserstoffatom (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserstoff) durch eines der Halogene (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogene) Fluor (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluor), Chlor (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlor), Brom (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brom) oder Iod (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iod) ersetzt wurde.

(     https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogene)e    Bromide sind ein Bestandteil des Meerwassers (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meerwasser) und besitzen einige biologische Funktionen. )


Wasserdesinfektion ? Zahnpasta ?


https://www.parsemus.org/projects/vasalgel/ (https://www.parsemus.org/projects/vasalgel/)







https://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/sterilizing-sick-poor-cut-welfare-costs-north-carolinas/story?id=14093458 (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/sterilizing-sick-poor-cut-welfare-costs-north-carolinas/story?id=14093458)


"Eugenics in the U.S. is something that's still not nationally known. People associate it with Nazis; they don't realize that the U.S. did it too," says Rebecca Kluchin, an assistant professor of History at California State University, Sacramento who specializes in the U.S. eugenics programs.






Soweit zur Logik, nun zum Zorn. Wer sich den Katalog an mitunter sogar [/font][/size]tödlichen Nebenwirkungen (https://www.welt.de/gesundheit/article147409207/Viele-Maedchen-unterschaetzen-das-Risiko-der-Pille.html)[/font][/size], die mit der Einnahme hormoneller Verhütungspräparate für Frauen einhergehen, einmal in Ruhe angesehen hat, muss sich fragen, wie solche Arzneimittel unter der genannten Bedingung der Unbedenklichkeit überhaupt auf den Markt kommen konnten. Denn auch bei der Frau wird mit der Pille keine Krankheit behandelt, sondern ein gesunder Körper ohne jeden kritischen Anlass einem Arzneimittel ausgesetzt. Nun haben die Pharmakonzerne von jeher die über die Verhütung hinausgehenden "nützlichen Effekte" der Einnahme dieser Produkte in den Vordergrund gestellt. Zunächst um die in der damaligen Gesellschaft vorherrschenden Ängste zu beschwichtigen, hormonelle Verhütung würde Sittenverfall und Ehebruch mit sich bringen, später um immer mehr Frauen mit dem Versprechen auf weniger Menstruationsbeschwerden, größere Brüste, bessere Haut, schönere Haare und einen "'regelmäßigeren Zyklus" zur Einnahme der Pille zu bewegen. Sicherlich ging es nicht zuletzt auch darum, das Bild vom "gesunden Körper", das die Begutachtung eines Arzneimittels durch die Ema prägt, zu unterwandern. Denn ist das Bild vom "mangelhaften" Frauenkörper erst einmal zementiert, fällt es nicht mehr schwer, die Behörden, wie auch die potenziellen Käuferinnen von der Notwendigkeit des Mittels zu überzeugen. Trotz der signifikanten Nebenwirkungen.


So much for logic, now for anger. Anyone who has had a quiet look at the catalog of sometimes even fatal side effects associated with the use of hormonal contraceptives for women has to ask themselves how such medicines could even come onto the market under the condition of harmlessness mentioned. Because even in women, the pill is not used to treat an illness, but to expose a healthy body to a drug without any critical reason. Now the pharmaceutical companies have always put the "useful effects" of taking these products that go beyond contraception in the foreground. First, to appease the fears that prevailed in society at the time, hormonal contraception would entail decay and adultery. Later, more and more women with the promise of less menstrual cramps, bigger breasts, better skin, more beautiful hair and a "'more regular cycle" To take taking the pill. Last but not least, it was also about undermining the image of the "healthy body" that characterizes the assessment of a drug by Ema. Because once the image of the "defective" woman's body is cemented, it is no longer difficult to convince the authorities and the potential buyers of the necessity of the product. Despite the significant side effects.




Nette Gruesse an Ihre Aerzte-und Apothekerschaft,Damen und Herren in Weiss,mit IHREM VOLLSTEN VERTRAUEN
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 21, 2020, 12:49:54 PM
Pandemie,Epidemie : !?


CAUSE ?


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Kurt Fritzsche


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concentration related "pandemia,epidemia"


[0013] In addition, current boiler heaters are made of metal and undergo electrolysis. No matter how high the quality of the metal from which the boiler recipients are made from, they will lose electrons. Adding magnesium anodes to the heaters minimizes this, since magnesium is a metal which acts as a sacrificial anode when low electrical intensity is applied, i.e. to protect the boiler from oxidation. The problem arising from the use of these sacrificial anodes is that the disintegration salts of the magnesium anode are fuel for iron bacteria, just like any other oxide within the tank. These iron bacteria are the caviar of the  legionella. If we add the fact that water transports earth sludge to this process, the bacteria have a reservoir in which to develop. In order to prevent the formation of legionella colonies, it is necessary to increase the temperature of the water to above 70° C, because the bacteria develop into  amoebas which refuge in the coldest part of a conventional heater, i.e. at the bottom, where the sludge accumulates and where the bacteria is able to survive insignificant contaminative hubs.


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionellen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionellen)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLegionellen (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLegionellen)



Symptoms: medication ,therapy ?



Übertragung der Legionellen auf den Menschen[Bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Legionellen&veaction=edit&section=3) | Quelltext bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Legionellen&action=edit&section=3)]Eine Übertragung von Legionellen ist prinzipiell durch Kontakt mit Leitungswasser möglich, wenn die Legionellen in die tiefen Lungenabschnitte gelangen.
Nicht jeder Kontakt mit legionellenhaltigem Wasser führt zu einer Gesundheitsgefährdung. Erst das Einatmen bakterienhaltigen Wassers als Bioaerosol (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaerosol) (Aspiration (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspiration_(Medizin)) bzw. Inhalation (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhalation) z. B. beim Duschen, bei Klimaanlagen, durch Rasensprenger und in Whirlpools) kann zur Infektion führen.
Das Trinken von legionellenhaltigem Wasser ist für Personen mit intaktem Immunsystem (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunsystem) keine Gesundheitsgefahr.
Eine Infektion mit Legionellen wird insbesondere mit folgenden technischen Systemen in Verbindung gebracht:Warmwasserversorgungen (z. B. in Wohnhäusern, Krankenhäusern, Heimen, Hotels, Kasernen),
[raumlufttechnische Anlagen (Klimaanlagen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimaanlage)) und Luftbefeuchter (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftbefeuchter)
[Badebecken, insbesondere Warmsprudelbecken (Whirlpools (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool_(Becken)))
[sonstige Anlagen, die Wasser zu Wassertröpfchen zerstäuben (beispielsweise Nebelerzeuger (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraschallvernebler), Nebelbrunnen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebelbrunnen))


https://www.infektionsschutz.de/erregersteckbriefe/legionellen.html (https://www.infektionsschutz.de/erregersteckbriefe/legionellen.html)


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Amoebe
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be)


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Symptoms : medication,therapy ?

Pathogenität[Bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Am%C3%B6be&veaction=edit&section=9) | Quelltext bearbeiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Am%C3%B6be&action=edit&section=9)]Viele Amöben sind pathogen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathogen), einige von ihnen können auch beim Menschen schwere Krankheiten (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krankheit) verursachen. So ruft die Magna-Form von Entamoeba histolytica (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entamoeba_histolytica) die Amöbenruhr (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6benruhr), eine schwere Magen-Darm-Erkrankung, hervor. Darüber hinaus beherbergen viele Amöben-Arten pathogene Bakterien wie etwa Legionellen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionella).[5] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-5) Einige Amöbenähnliche Einzeller führen beim Menschen zu einer schweren Meningoenzephalitis. Dazu gehören die Gattungen Naegleria (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naegleria&action=edit&redlink=1), Balamuthia (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Balamuthia&action=edit&redlink=1) und Sappinia (https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sappinia&action=edit&redlink=1). Naegleria fowleri (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri) findet sich meist in warmen stehenden Süßwasser-Gewässern und dringt in den meisten Fällen beim Schwimmen entlang der Nasenschleimhaut zum Gehirn und löst die eitrige PAME (Primäre Amöben-Meningoenzephalitis (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prim%C3%A4re_Am%C3%B6ben-Meningoenzephalitis)) aus, die in 95 % der Fälle tödlich endet.[6] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-6)[7] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-7)[8] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-8) Die Gattung Acanthamoeba (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acanthamoeba) findet sich in Süß-, Salz-, Brackwasser und in Böden und führt typischerweise bei Kontaktlinsen-Trägern (80 % der Krankheitsfälle) zu einer schweren „Acanthamöba-Keratitis“. Auch sie kann entlang der Nasenschleimhaut zum Gehirn gelangen und dort eine zumeist tödliche Meningoenzephalitis auslösen.[9] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-9) Bei hartnäckigen Zahnfleischentzündungen und Parodontitis ist häufig Entamoeba gingivalis anzutreffen.[10] (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%B6be#cite_note-10)



"Corona period" death cases : geral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy) related Legionellen/Amoeben infection !
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: onepower on May 23, 2020, 01:13:52 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/antimalarial-drug-touted-by-president-trump-is-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-in-coronavirus-patients-study-says/ar-BB14sCgm

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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.
People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever was hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

A real game changer for making more naive people believe a con man instead of the health care professionals. What a joke.
 
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: EMJunkie on May 23, 2020, 01:21:45 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/antimalarial-drug-touted-by-president-trump-is-linked-to-increased-risk-of-death-in-coronavirus-patients-study-says/ar-BB14sCgm

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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.
People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever was hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”


A real game changer for making more naive people believe a con man instead of the health care professionals. What a joke.



You BELIEVE the MSN - Propaganda, know what it means?

hydroxychloroquine is 65‬ Years old, approved for medical use in the United States in 1955 - How many dumb people have to live with their heads in the Clouds of Propaganda before they wake up?

If the Drug was harmful, 65 years on the market, one of the most successful drugs for fighting Malaria, then we would have heard about it well before now!

hydroxychloroquine eliminates the Financial Gain of the Vaccines of the pharma's, see why its a Threat? Wake UP!

Documentary: PlanDemic - Watch it, Educate! See whats really going on here! Educate!

What complete Bull-Shit You pedal Onepower! I mean AllCanadian! You are part of the Propaganda Machine, pedaling it like you are employed by the machine that tries to keep the dumb ones in the dark! Makes me sick!

   Chris
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 23, 2020, 08:11:43 AM

"Corona"-death cases re-/search :

german https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Obduktionen-zeigen-schwere-Lungenschaeden-article21798733.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Obduktionen-zeigen-schwere-Lungenschaeden-article21798733.html)


english
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Citating from the above article : " ... Blood poisoning in pneumonia (four cases), lung failure (three cases) and heart failure (two cases) were the most common causes of death. In all eleven cases, the Pathology Institute of the Charité found that the causes of death were "causally caused by Covid-19", it said."


 Citation End




The great "Kokken"-reservoir


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokken (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokken)




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here specific "pneumo-kokken",the lung habitating (attacking ?)


german
https://www.impfen-info.de/impfempfehlungen/fuer-erwachsene/pneumokokken.html (https://www.impfen-info.de/impfempfehlungen/fuer-erwachsene/pneumokokken.html)


english
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                                    The bacteria are found in the nasopharynx of many people without them becoming ill.

            the nasopharynx      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNasopharynx (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNasopharynx)



Pneumococci: course of the disease

Why pneumococci suddenly cause diseases in some people and not in others is not exactly known.


 Healthy people can also be affected. With weakened body defense - for example after a viral illness or with chronic illnesses - this happens more easily.
 Infants and young children, as well as the elderly, are more likely to develop pneumococci.
Because with increasing age the body's defenses decrease and chronic diseases increase.


Pneumococci can trigger various diseases - including sinus, middle ear, meningitis or blood poisoning. In addition, they are responsible for 20 to 50 percent of all bacterial pneumonia in older adults.


Some of these diseases can be life-threatening. If the course is severe, about one in ten of those affected will die from the consequences of pneumococcal infection. People with a weakened immune system are particularly at risk.


Corono-viriae( several different Corona family members) infection/-"visit"(detection by anti-bodies) :


what does it ? Programming the cells new or let it programming the cells by other co-partners,similiar the HIV- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV)

                               HIV:         human immunodeficiency virus




          "positive or negative"  :



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutgruppe (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutgruppe)  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBlutgruppe (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBlutgruppe)


 Anti-bodies A,B,C,D,E (..... ?)

Tritt der Fall einer solchen Immunisierung in der Schwangerschaft ein, dann passiert sie relativ langsam und führt bei der ersten Schwangerschaft üblicherweise noch nicht zu Problemen. Möglicherweise werden in geringem Maße rote Blutkörperchen im Körper des Kindes zerstört, was die typischerweise nach der Geburt auftretende leichte Gelbsucht (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelbsucht) etwas verstärken kann. Ist die Mutter jedoch vom ersten Kind „sensibilisiert“, das heißt, ihr Immunsystem (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunsystem) hat Gedächtniszellen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ged%C3%A4chtniszelle) gebildet, dann kann erneuter Blutkontakt in der nächsten Schwangerschaft (erneut mit einem Rhesus-positiven Kind, ca. 85 % der Bevölkerung ist Rhesus-positiv, 15 % Rhesus negativ) sehr schnell zur Bildung von Antikörpern bei der Mutter führen.

If such an immunization occurs during pregnancy, it happens relatively slowly and usually does not lead to problems during the first pregnancy. Red blood cells in the child's body may be destroyed to a small extent, which can increase the slight jaundice that typically occurs after birth. However, if the mother is "sensitized" by the first child, that is, her immune system has formed memory cells, blood contact can occur again in the next pregnancy (again with a rhesus-positive child, approx. 85% of the population is rhesus-positive, 15% Rhesus negative) very quickly lead to the formation of antibodies in the mother.




My brother as new borned baby has had "Gelbsucht" after his birth and stayed in hospitality treatment !


Weil die D-Antikörper Immunglobuline (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunglobulin) vom Typ G sind (IgG-Immunglobuline), können sie in diesem Fall leicht durch die Plazentaschranke (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plazentaschranke) in den Blutkreislauf des Kindes wandern. Dort werden die mit D-Antikörpern der Mutter beladenen Erythrozyten des Kindes in der Milz (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milz) des Kindes vorzeitig abgebaut. Es kommt zu einer hämolytischen (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4molyse) Anämie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%A4mie) und weiteren Folgen. Dies kann zum Morbus haemolyticus neonatorum (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morbus_haemolyticus_neonatorum), schlimmstenfalls zu Missbildungen oder zum Tod des Kindes führen. In leichten Fällen wird z. B. durch Phototherapie (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototherapie) behandelt. Durch Blutaustausch kann dieser Folge entgegengewirkt werden, mögliche Antikörperbildungen können überprüft werden.


In this case, because the D antibodies are type G immunoglobulins (IgG immunoglobulins), they can easily migrate through the placental barrier into the child's bloodstream. There the child's erythrocytes loaded with D antibodies from the mother are prematurely broken down in the spleen of the child. Hemolytic anemia and other consequences occur. This can lead to haemolyticus neonatorum, in the worst case to deformities or to the child's death. In mild cases, e.g. B. treated by phototherapy. This consequence can be counteracted by blood exchange and possible antibody formation can be checked.

I did have an anaemie (Eisen-Mangel: Lakritze,special tea diet)


Symptoms,but not deadly ::)  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSerologie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSerologie)


                                           

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHIV (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHIV)

By the above 19 cases autopsies : pneumo-kokken quantity analyzed ? In geral "kokken-quantity" in "kleines/grosses Blut-/Koeprfluessigkeiten-Bild"




                                       small "Echo"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Flaborwerte%2Fkleines-blutbild%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Flaborwerte%2Fkleines-blutbild%2F)
                                       great "Echo"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Flaborwerte%2Fgrosses-blutbild%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.netdoktor.de%2Flaborwerte%2Fgrosses-blutbild%2F)

Can we,have we to ,re-programming our body after micro-plastics,antibiotics in alimentation( in meat/fish) and over-drugs( medicine,alcohol,tobacco,et cet. ) intoxication :


Neutral Jury position : body magnetism

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chak (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra)ra


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChakra (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChakra)


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAyurveda (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAyurveda)


To know to live life : autonom living "Klostergemeinschaften" (Benediktiner,Franziskaner,...) idem ,not only in the East ; EXERZITIEN (daily remembering,"reconditiong")




 what says a professional physiant,virologist,epidemilogist about these statements ,open and clear explanation and by statements comparision



https://www.bob-beck-protocol.be/downloads/beck-protocol-handbook.pdf (https://www.bob-beck-protocol.be/downloads/beck-protocol-handbook.pdf)


Electro-medicine : https://new.siemens.com/global/en/company/about/history/technology/medical-technology/advanced-therapies.html (https://new.siemens.com/global/en/company/about/history/technology/medical-technology/advanced-therapies.html)  8)  not unknown

https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/chemicals/silver.pdf (https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/chemicals/silver.pdf)

KINETICS AND METABOLISM IN LABORATORY ANIMALS AND HUMANS



tap water versus mineral water ; Sprudel versus stilles Wasser ; nascent hydrogen/oxygen




Living with more "aepeeling ;)  / appealing" f.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVGl_bDOOw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVGl_bDOOw) ,
some lives classical and use cutted trees 8)  : paper ( after use also recycleable as cigarette paper  ;D )


handwriting is more than only "writing" : https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/723687/jewish/Spiritual-Graphology-The-Soul-of-Handwriting.htm (https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/723687/jewish/Spiritual-Graphology-The-Soul-of-Handwriting.htm)




"... common ..." file:///C:/Users/alfon.000/Downloads/ZoonosesVol-3.pdf (https://overunity.com/file:///C:/Users/alfon.000/Downloads/ZoonosesVol-3.pdf)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 25, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
aspiratory treatment device : https://patents.justia.com/patent/20110061649 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20110061649)


Allicin : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAllicin (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAllicin)




https://www.allicin-allimax-deutschland.de/allimax (https://www.allicin-allimax-deutschland.de/allimax)


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.allicin-allimax-deutschland.de%2Fbuch-the-heart-of-garlic.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.allicin-allimax-deutschland.de%2Fbuch-the-heart-of-garlic.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: ramset on May 25, 2020, 09:25:17 PM
Psst....Lanca...I learned a new word today ...I will write it here so I don't forget  ..Electroceutical fabric kills Corona...how can we make this ?


 https://www.forbes.com/sites/allisongasparini/2020/05/24/new-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eradicates-coronavirus-infectivity-on-contact/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/allisongasparini/2020/05/24/new-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eradicates-coronavirus-infectivity-on-contact/)
respectfully  Chet K


Edit for spelling my new word wrong
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: lancaIV on May 25, 2020, 10:08:47 PM
Psst....Lanca...I learned a new word today ...I will write it here so I don't forget  ..Elestroceutical fabric kills Corona...how can we make this ?


 https://www.forbes.com/sites/allisongasparini/2020/05/24/new-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eradicates-coronavirus-infectivity-on-contact/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/allisongasparini/2020/05/24/new-research-shows-electroceutical-fabric-eradicates-coronavirus-infectivity-on-contact/)
respectfully  Chet K


https://www.uvex-safety.com/blog/electrostatic-discharge-capability-of-clothing-part-two-of-two/ (https://www.uvex-safety.com/blog/electrostatic-discharge-capability-of-clothing-part-two-of-two/)


ESD textile/garment Resistat,Nega-Stat


Sincerely


OCWL
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Magluvin on May 26, 2020, 07:05:58 AM
Copper And The Coronavirus - Making An Anti-Viral Facemask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1DK_1DthyM
Mags
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Magluvin on May 28, 2020, 10:01:07 PM
Only a few know about the Side Effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwK5MJw9qX0
mags
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: Floor on May 28, 2020, 11:29:13 PM

Quinine or hydroxychloroquine used in combination with ZINK SUPPLIMENTS is the whole point of using        the hydroxychloroquine.  Otherwise it seems pointless or perhaps even harmful to use it.  The hydroxychloroquine increases access of the zinc into the interior of cells.   Once inside the cells, zinc interferes with / slows down the viral replication.
Title: Re: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas
Post by: magpwr on May 30, 2020, 09:39:11 AM
Hi everyone,
Base on the latest news the China communist govt change subject once again.
I am not sure if rest of the world is able to see this link from Singapore.

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/chinese-cdc-now-says-coronavirus-224900090.html (https://sg.yahoo.com/news/chinese-cdc-now-says-coronavirus-224900090.html)
Previously i have already mentioned the Seafood market was just used as distraction instead of mentioning the Wuhan virology lab.

Do a google search on "bat lady of Wuhan" whom is the scientist working on the corona virus since 2002 just before SARS broke out in Asia countries.She have identified which corona virus strain can infect human being.And now she is reported missing  after the outbreak was reported.Only this lady can answer the question or she might the one causing our misery globally.

Have anybody wonder if this Wuhan laboratory was doing research on corona virus for nearly 2 decades then they have not discovered any vaccine or they up to no good.Think about it.
By the way the source of the covid-19 virus is from horseshoe bat species which only exist in cave of Yunan in China.Yes the virus was part of nature but why meddle with it.

Please see China in focus news and gravitas via youtube for the source of my information.Make who ever responsible pay dearly.Help make your Europe ministers see the big picture.

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News keep changing from China now i just found out the Bat woman have resurfaced and she have started giving interview.Strange.

Please see youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8opSfaCD5iE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8opSfaCD5iE)


This lady scientist mentioned they have obtained the virus "whole Genome sequence".Then why China govt admitted they have destroyed the virus samples and not intending to share with the world namely WHO.I don't know why China is inside WHO but never really worked with WHO.I am lost again.