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http://www.factfish.com/de/statistik-land/spanien/sterberate%2C%20gesamt   


fact-fish research made simple



From where they have their quasi 2 mio death number for Spain 2015 ,divided in these accumulated male and female deaths probably only they know







A little more trustfull and a little more faith in the exponentialcurve

https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/


we see atypical decrease and increase in death cases,soon before 2019/2020,here only  for Spain, with numeric spreads between years over 50 000 cases


So the situation actually IS TYPICAL FOR NORMAL EPIDEMIE seasons




also for Italy :


https://www.fr.de/panorama/coronavirus-italien-corona-covid-19-todesfaelle-medizinisches-personal-zr-13591649.html


The national Italian statistical authority Istat and the Istituto Cattaneo in Bologna took Italy's current total totals and compared them with the mean of the years 2015 to 2019 in the same period. According to civil defense, a total of 4,825 died from Covid-19 between February 21 and March 21. However, the number of deaths is significantly higher than in previous years, namely the plus is 8740 and not 4825. This can "only be attributed to an external cause, Covid-19," the authors of the study write.


but


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285


                 there are often in studies attributions;WITHOUT AUTOPSY/OBDUCTION :      worthless


for Italy with higher inhabitants number related Spain=46,75 mio also up to 75 000 deaths in 2020 we can define as TYPICAL FOR NORMAL EPIDEMIE season






04.04.2020


Corona-season  2020  best/middle/worst case

https://www.swp.de/panorama/corona-coronavirus-italien-infizierte-tote-ausgangssperre-mailand-pandemie-44979276.html

as Corona-case deaths 2020 in Spain    :          11200 deaths  / 50000 pandemie cases expectation( base : 2017/2018 increase )


as Corona-case deaths 2020 in Italy     :          14681 deaths   / 75 000 pandemie cases expectation ( base: 2017/2018 increase Spain)

How many cases in Spain and Italy are :
pathologic "Fear-/Stress-deaths"pathologic-psychologic "Silent deaths"
Parkin : Neuron ! ( by autopsy later observeable :Proteine )

Mostly cases in this countries are by individual " Exzess-Mortality"-symptoms
Probably in operation this Corona-Covid-19 virus has more similaries with the HI-virus from the 80',Zellwand/Zellkern-treatment behaviour
Action: physiological   stress production and auto-immun-system infarkt/collaps to final body-infarkt

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shared by member Jimboot
https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200404dhsjr/common-head-lice-drug-may-hold-answer-to-coronavirus-cure-20200404
with an addendum By Verpies
Quote Ivermectin is just another ionophore just like HCQ. The antiviral activity is still via the zinc inhibition of Replicase.
end quote  ////and  Blood plasma from recovered is like miracle in new French study here a bit of history  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30141-9/fulltext
 

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sometimes experts,unserious and serious,forget experiences and F&E results from other pandemies  :


https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13510622.html



A long-proven feature of the AIDS virus speaks against this, of course: the antibodies cannot be prevented from penetrating at all into healthy body cells. The HTL V-3 antibodies are not directed against the envelope of the virus - that would be the biological prerequisite for the destruction of the AIDS pathogen before it can attack and destroy the immune system - but only against its internal structures.


Experienced virologists also consider a second Landbeck hope to be unrealistic. The hemophilia therapist wishes that the antibody formation of harmless fractions of the dangerous, but already "broken" pathogen in the preparations has been started. Even then there would be no danger. Only: In nine out of ten cases, specialists in France and the USA have detected not only the antibodies in HTL V-3-positive patients, but also active, undestroyed AIDS viruses in the blood.






Instead HI-AIDS-virus now the Corona-SARS-VID19 case : dis-/ad vantages of the above conditions and therapy change


https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/Wie-das-Coronavirus-unsere-Zellen-infiziert-article21680824.html


"Sanfter Tod" and "Stiller Tod"-mechanism and https://www.scinexx.de/news/biowissen/parkinson-protein-schuetzt-nervenzellen/


Die Inaktivierung des Parkin-Proteins könnte aber auch bei sporadischen Erkrankungen von Bedeutung sein. In diesen Fällen führt wohl massiver oxidativer Stress zu einer Fehlfaltung und Aggregation des Proteins.

  cause of  "neuronal infarct" "auto-immun system collaps"

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scire = to know  credere = to believe       in what we shall trust ?


Wissen = to know Glauben = to believe


Wissenschaftler = scientist  Glaubenschaftler = creditist




https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Warum-das-Virus-die-Lombardei-so-befaellt-article21694914.html


"We found that the official number of Covid 19 deaths after evaluating data from a representative survey among Lombardy municipalities was only 26 percent of all real deaths."


This is the scientifical number,all other numbers are wrong "creditists" estimations !


Scientists have to work with given numbers and compare this with empiric data,seldom only with only 1 year comparison,


even in the Bible,the old creditists/scientists almanach, we know about written " 7 " cycles,


https://www.google.com/search?q=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=7+gute+7+schlechte+jahre&aqs=chrome..69i57.13759j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


7 but ever as symbolic number : 7 can religious be 2,   6,  " 4,2758"


the number "3" for example = TRINITY was ancient the Pi-number,Pi-ramide,

today we calculate with 22/7 or are in search for a final digit after the kommata = 3, + 800 digits




I advice to read and understand this study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285 to understand "Exzessfactor" and in reverse "Inzessfactor" as dynamic exponential curve movement

                                                            WRITTEN :
The average annual mortality excess rate per 100,000 ranged from 11.6 to 41.2 with most of the influenza-associated deaths per year registered among the elderly.

                                      when 11,6 = 100 %     41,2 = 355 %


            I take the  SARS/pneumonie emergency cases/breath machine number ratio as increase factor for later comparison : 500% and more 



                                                                Acceptable ( clearly : emotional hard,but real)  related to 11,6  ?




                   I can also take the average society deaths number  increase factor by 5%, in the > 60 years risc group specific higher ( study period -2017 numbers to 2020 ) !


                                          https://www.statista.com/statistics/450171/number-of-deaths-in-spain/  the curve f.e. for Spain before Covid !


                                         So a statistical spread/amplitude of real cases is in the minimum 600 % range from empirical data !


                                         Without the today in health sector geral use : TRIAGE !

     
                                       Triage ,in Maths : DREISATZ    in Economics : NUTZWERT/GRENZWERTNUTZEN

                                       Opportunitaets-Aufwand / Opportunitaets-Ertrag + Zeitfenster




     
                         " flu virus " with pneumonie risc epidemie as base for the actual "Corona virus"-case with pneumonie


 
                                                                            PNEUMOKOKKEN,unknown ?



 "Es sind keine Zahlen, es sind Menschenleben." GERIATRIE or/and Gerontologie is a scientific profession faculta art but also Demoscopy and Demography





Mit falschen Zahlen,dazu dann daraus falsche Visionen toetet man auch (unerfahrene) Menschen ,"stiller Tod",psychologisch-physiologisch : Angsttod (Infarkt)


How many different COVI19 as disease = COVID kind we will find after obduction/autopsy of all these cases ?


SARS -cause ?  MRSA,fungi, other Kokken, .......         HYGIENE !

average risc group definition "before Corona-virus pandemie" : these 26 % inside or outside this risc group ?

And life(-LUST = Cupido/appetite/notion) battery exhaust/depletion cases ?




https://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Wissenschaftler-schockieren-Fussball-Stars-article21695356.html


I am not Afro- but African : ROBERT-KOCH-INSTITUT   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch


                                        "AKTION MENSCHENFREUND"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Mary_Mallon_in_hospital.jpg  26 years Isolation ! FORCED ! Okay,US citizen ! ;D  Female ! ::)  SO WHAT ?



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Bayer_205JS.jpg/220px-Bayer_205JS.jpg  human trials ,"pretos,negros,caramelos" So what ? Ape-BLACK HUMOR  8)  Affen-Geil,Mega-Scharf unsere Humor Exponentialkurve,is it not ?




 
                                     U.P.N. :       UNITED.PERVERSIVE.NATIONS


                                     Es gibt VOELKER und die Nicht-Voelker im BUND




                                    SOCIETY 5.0  ICH FREU MICH DRAUF     U2 ?




                                    ARGUS-ZEIT,"Alter" kommt ! JUNG-ZEIT
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https://www.n-tv.de/wissen/15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html


A new study found a lower lethality for the region than other sources suggest.


The corona virus is probably not as deadly as feared: While the American Johns Hopkins University reports a mortality rate of almost two percent for Germany, the interim result of an ongoing study in the district of Heinsberg in North Rhine-Westphalia indicates that the so-called lethality of Sars -CoV-2 is significantly lower. The team led by the virologist Hendrik Streeck found that only 0.37 percent of Covid-19 patients have died after being infected with the virus.



                                                         Heinsberg with Streek-team-study is in Germany !


                                                         But Germany - with John Hopkins Uni report-  is not Heinsberg !         


                                 
   Is the average in Heinsberg higher or lower than the average in Germany ( with the same John Hopkins report team: in Heinsberg ?)?


   Study techniques/method and tools ?





                     geral experience                                            2 scientists = 3 opinions  with 50/50 chance/risc ratio quantitative, 20/80 chance/risc ratio qualitative

                                                                                         Pareto law or Pareto principle  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paretoprinzip

                                                                                   
         https://www.google.com/search?q=iceberg+principle&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT797PT797&oq=iceberg+principle&aqs=chrome..69i57.8293j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


                                                                                         X Goldener Schnitt  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldener_Schnitt


                                                                                                                      https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGoldener_Schnitt
                                                                                                 
                                                                                 
                                                                                         ergo one is right : empirical logic,scientifical approveable


                                                            we are talking about "partidary motions" = mind mapping for future developpment








"This is important because it also means that 15 percent of the population can no longer become infected," said Streeck when presenting the interim results.   

Something for the boulevard press,not for "The Lancet"

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http://www.euromomo.eu/


the wave-cycle from 65+ over the years !


The wave-cycle from 15-65 age over the years !


A short 4 years re-view !

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hi everyone,
During the time of the virus outbreak in Wuhan as i found out from my local Chinese friend base on leak out information through some article seen in phone posted by someone in China-Wuhan.
People in Wuhan did notice a building believe to be a laboratory few kilometers/miles away from the Wuhan market which is believe to be related to virus research was blown up for no apparent reason.

I can't verify if this is fake or actual news unless someone have access to satellite imaging and compare base on old imaging data example taken early January 2020 and verify this with current imaging to see if any building disappeared in Wuhan near Wuhan market in kilometers.

I need someone in this forum whom have friends or colleagues whom can  help to assist verify disappeared building in Wuhan.
If a building in Wuhan is disappeared base on latest Satellite imaging then it would be easy to tell if there is obvious sign of big cover up.
 Please assist to verify this information.

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Sir..WE do have persons who can access images "now"... perhaps not old imaging..[hobbyists here and elsewhere have been scouring images of Antarctica for ...? and some guys even hunt through moon imaging

Would be nice to get more specific location S-E-N-W and ruff distance from a known point?
will ask around the forums...
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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2F15-Prozent-Infiziert-Sterblichkeit-viel-geringer-article21704605.html


"This is important because it also means that 15 percent of the population can no longer become infected," said Streeck when presenting the interim results.


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FSuedkorea-verwundert-mit-Reaktivierung-article21707364.html


The virus has "reactivated" - which is a contradiction to German knowledge.









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Psssst Lanca
this is really good stuff /news ...IMO supporting ionophores and cure [HCQ etc]
Apparently Duncan's "questionable link" info above  [my opinion/writing yesterday]has much more support ..from Dr.s on the front line .
quote from member Lost_Bro
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  Good day All:

Interesting reinterpretation of the COVID-19 infection M.O.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4u1LJQ7_k&t=172s

Seems that the Fe atom contained within the Hemoglobin is 'sequestered'.  Since Hemoglobin without Fe is not functional (zero O2 transport), the patient begins to asphyxiate (almost like altitude sickness). The dislocated Fe forms 'Porphyrin'.  Intense poisoning of lung tissue occurs due to inability of CO2>O2 exchange leading to inflammation/ground glass appearance in the lungs.  So it would appear that the COVID-19 is a systemic blood poison and not the direct cause of a pneumonia/ARDS.

Seems that the Malaria plasmid also attaches itself to the Fe in the Hemoglobin causing the Malaria illness.  Interesting that the HCQ will protect/shield the Fe in the Hemoglobin and thereby prevent the Malaria infection (oversimplified description).   

take care, peace
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Sir..WE do have persons who can access images "now"... perhaps not old imaging..[hobbyists here and elsewhere have been scouring images of Antarctica for ...? and some guys even hunt through moon imaging

Would be nice to get more specific location S-E-N-W and ruff distance from a known point?
will ask around the forums...
hi ramset,
The only thing i know related to location China->Guangzhou(State)->Wuhan->Hubei(This is where it all started).
There are other conspiracy theory originated from China whom had sent a Woman scientist to Canada to study on virology.Upon returning to China this person was placed in charge of a team.But after the viral outbreak this key person suddenly disappeared.This article was posted by someone in China read to me by my local Chinese friend whom like seeing gossip article through phone.

Unfortunately only Canada can verify if this story is valid and the person identity.
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Today i am a little lost after reading about Amazon tribe living deep in forest far away from civilization getting infected with the Covid-19 virus.How the hell this is possible?
 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11369883/boy-first-coronavirus-case-remote-amazon-tribes/

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How is this possible ?
Konrad Lorenz : behaviour research,ethology
Mimikry
Ants borouhg/burg-berg/hill/mountain = 1 population " physiological " one body" ~ clones ( re-/production)

Apes ("Father"): when one gets in his  conscious evolution development an improvement the ape group/family particiates
tele-pathic/-gen-etik ~ gets same level

Transmission system micro-bio-cosmos ?

Mosquitos can "taste/smell/emphaise" a warm-blood animal from up to 50 Km = 50 000 mtrs distance,I have reed

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Magpwr
Been asking at topics where open source investigators
Gather to view google imaging .
Seems a daunting task (one image of area below)
Will pass along your additional info


Chet

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Magpwr
Been asking at topics where open source investigators
Gather to view google imaging .
Seems a daunting task (one image of area below)
Will pass along your additional info


Chet
hi,
Thanks for the help.Sincerely.As Asian i do not have any other means to communicate with someone from Europe countries.

Please see youtube description.
Chinese scientists says COVID-19/coronavirus could have originated from government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC0gww2yznI
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All of us are suffering since i really hate wearing mask.sorry.One of the main reason why i am doing all this because i notice globally domestic violence is increasing because of this virus outbreak and someone need to pay the HEAVY PRICE dearly.Sometimes i can even hear families quarreling through my window.

 

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