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Author Topic: Coronavirus,uesfull information for fighting Virus [evolving from effected areas  (Read 6273 times)

Offline ramset

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This from one of our better Open source researcher/investigators ...more accurate and useful information and tips for fighting it from healthcare persons in effected areas.
here Zinc and other ....[ongoing...?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215

Thx to member Verpies
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Sorry, I time available was limited.

Many thanks to Verpies,

The additional NHS information regarding washing hands in detergent based appears to
be helpful, but make no mistake the second video mentions the virus can enter any aperture of the body
ears eyes etcetera and it's main difference to the Sarse viruses is it can easily cover a distance of some 6ft and appears to have an incubation period of not 14 days but more like 30 days as discused in the second video.
 to be a threat to the weaker and part of society As if Nature hasconveniently produced as an intelligent selector for the survival of the young and the fittest.

And there is this >   https://www.brighteon.com/2d5094d8-0f1d-4080-8840-f88cbe66c6eb

And  is there any truth in this ?  Viruses can not exist in an acidic body.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2020, 07:19:25 PM by Raycathode »

Offline ramset

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Ray about 15 min mark and on..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U&feature=youtu.be&t=215
I have not watched your Movie yet [seems you have not watched short link above [[ put on double speed and captions if ...? ]

Is your Vid similar helpful info and explanation /suggestions for fighting this strain of virus spread ? uncertain about PH suggestions but most certainly would be good to know the PH threshold for this strain to hinder its growth.

Chet K

PS
I do know many Virus are being experimented with worldwide to fight disease ...cancers etc
this topic should hopefully be more about suggestions for Fighting the virus spread ..

// Here member Danny shares info http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/health-fitness-nutrition/496880-corona-virus-and-covid19#post496889snip
 Now U.S. researchers at the Virginia Commonwealth University have discovered that intravenous vitamin C given every six hours for four days within hours of admission reduced the risk of patients with sepsis dying from 46 per cent in a placebo group to almost 30 per cent in the vitamin C group after a month.
 On average, the vitamin C group spent three days fewer in intensive care and a week less in the hospital overall.
 The NHS warns that taking extremely large amounts (more than 10g per day) of vitamin C can cause stomach pain, diarrhoea and flatulence.
 But ‘there is no known level of vitamin C which is toxic’, says Dr Levy.
 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ronavirus.html

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And there is this >   https://www.brighteon.com/2d5094d8-0f1d-4080-8840-f88cbe66c6eb

And  is there any truth in this ?  Viruses can not exist in an acidic body.


That seems the opposite of what I have learned:  "Disease cannot survive in an alkaline state; however, in a low oxygen/low pH (acidic) state, viruses, bacteria, yeast, mold, fungus, Candida and Cancer cells all thrive."

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That seems the opposite of what I have learned:  "Disease cannot survive in an alkaline state; however, in a low oxygen/low pH (acidic) state, viruses, bacteria, yeast, mold, fungus, Candida and Cancer cells all thrive."
Candida and Cancer cells all thrive realy ? hang on isn't Candida and Cancer isn't a virus  ;D ;D it's some thing else.

You might be interested in recent availability of CBD for some types of cancer the lack of B17 in your diet you might want to go into.

good luck

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from member Grumpy...Quote
Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1001176

One might notice a "coincidence" in regions with low zinc diets and increased cases of COVID-19, such as Iran, China, and Italy.
end quote
I added this short list of natural Zinc sources below
  Oysters (make the top of the list), lobsters, crab and other seafood. Red meat, like beef, lamb and pork, as well as liver have bigger amounts of zinc than fish. The dark meat of a turkey or chicken contains more zinc than the light.
 Baked beans and chickpeas.
 A lot of the nuts contain zinc. The top of the list is made by cashews, almonds and peanuts.
 Yogurt.
 Cheddar cheese.
 Fruits and vegetables, according to Medical Centre of University of Maryland, do not make a good source of zinc, because in plant proteins, unlike animal proteins, zinc is not available for the use by the body, thus the vegetarian and low-protein diets appear to be low in zinc.

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Yes the zinc thing also involves eating such things as the kernels of shrubs and trees that have roots that are able to reach far into the ground where the rarer minerals can be found, such as apples oranges apricots etc that are rich in B17. Where free roaming animals can feed on such material.

One should only eat meat that has been fed on this type of food and avoid stuff bread or grown on oil base fertilisers.

pea nuts and cashew nuts are not really nuts and belong to the same family as tomatoes and peppers, some beans and have there own toxins for there own bug control

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Colloidal silver is the key.


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Lanca, yes pets get Corona but not this strain ?
Here more from member Grumpy
/// quote  "for anyone wondering how long the infection is contagious after showing symptoms:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/09/people-shed-high-levels-of-coronavirus-study-finds-but-most-are-likely-not-infectious-after-recovery-begins/

incubation is 5 to 7 days

this is comforting:
The study also noted that people who are infected begin to develop antibodies to the virus quickly, typically within six to 12 days. The rapid rise of antibodies may explain why about 80% of people infected with the virus do not develop severe disease.end quote

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Robert-Koch-Institute ( Virology)  :

incubation time 2-14 days,this makes for the 14 days and more "Quarantaene"- time responsible !

A great Corona-infection difference : mortal rate Italy 6,6%  / South-Korea 0,7%



To understand "media-numbers":
Germany has 83 Mio. habitants, one per mille = 1/1000 active infectants would be a medical system collaps :
28000 beds illness treatment emergency room  capacity / 83000 patients ( as 1/1000 "Pandemie" example)

Comparison :

Influenza/Grippe 119000 cases only in Germany season 2019/2020 and 249 deaths by Influenza(symptoms/-effects)

Also : aviaere Influenza ~ Vogel-Grippe/"Gefluegelpest"( but Influenza -Virus not Pest-Virus) actual H5N1         
           but in Asia actually the real swine-pest  a problem !


« Last Edit: March 12, 2020, 01:48:45 PM by lancaIV »

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Colloidal silver is the key.

Please how?

Will it kill the Virus or how exactly will it work?

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This from one of our better Open source researcher/investigators ...more accurate and useful information and tips for fighting it from healthcare persons in effected areas.
here Zinc and other ....[ongoing...?

Chet K

In some places I have seen farmers growing a waste crop in between main desired crop so that the pests attack the waste crop and their main crop is saved.  May be this is a type of biological pest control.

Similarly  if large numbers of dead and weakened bacteria are injected into human body,  the viruses may feed on these bacteria rather than attacking human cells. Mean while the patient can take proper medicines, food, vitamins etc, to strengthen the white blood cells which
kill the viruses.

My doubt about vaccination is,  do the dead and weakened bacteria injected into human body prepare WBC to fight the germs or just become the food for germs diverting their attention from attacking body cells?
 
Just a question, please don't mistake.

Here is another method to kill the viruses :

https://www.livescience.com/7472-kill-viruses-shake-death.html

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60%-70% habitants controled Corona-infection needed for immunization !


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpanorama%2FWoher-kommen-diese-60-bis-70-Prozent-article21634342.html




and there are other virus-kinds in action ( from 2009 !)


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwissen%2FBei-Erwachsenen-entdeckt-article46148.html


Almost every second hospital patient examined suffered from acute bronchitis and every fourth from pneumonia.15% even had heart failure.As a result, every 10th clinical patient had to be artificially ventilated or treated in an intensive care unit.So far, infection with metapneumoviruses can only be treated symptomatically, and there is also no vaccination.

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/human-metapneumovirus-hmpv/learn-about-hmpv.html

https://www.cdc.gov/adenovirus/index.html




Probably a global " clean air act" helps for a better and healthier human respiratory system ,over all seasons !
And " clean food",without anti-biotics !



This "individual car free cities"- moment as common future living style !





https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Finfografik%2FDie-Coronavirus-Krise-in-Spanien-article21641400.html


"Corona-Virus in Europe"
actually 1/10000 habitants in Europe are officially infected ,far away from the 60-70% society vaccination by controled -over two years:2020,2021,2022-infection for society immunization




https://www.fr.de/sport/jeder-kann-sein-immunsystem-gegen-viren-scharf-stellen-13596104.html

« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 03:28:28 PM by lancaIV »

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Extreme heterogeneity - or definition chaos ...

The confusion about the Spanish flu would not be too bad, it was a long time ago - only the definition chaos continues to this day. Scientists have long complained of this "extreme heterogeneity" and, for example, systematically examined the results of 50 studies with 77 flu virus estimates in 2009. These ranged from 1 to 10,000 deaths per 100,000 cases ( Case fatality risk of influenza A (H1N1pdm09): a systematic review ). It is often not entirely clear on which bases the values ​​are based. And even if there are, there are still major methodological differences. Scientists should therefore always make the references clear.


       1  / 100000           =        0,001 %  mortality
10000 /  100000           =      10,0     %  mortality


that is called "professionalism" !  :P 


actually the mortal risc based by Corona-virus for the under 50 years age male/female group : +-    0,3 % !






divide et impera over "numbers" : male/female cases,under 50 years,50-60 years group,61-70 years group,71-80 years group




by average habitants life expectance by 75-80 years  the death risc between 65 and more is "in geral" percentual ever higher,with-/out influenza or corona !


https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1039211/umfrage/sterblichkeit-durch-das-coronavirus-nach-altersgruppen-in-china/



Coronavirus mortality rate by age group in China 2020
Published by Statista Research Department, Mar 12th 2020


  Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) puts men above the age of 50 at risk. This emerges from an analysis by the Chinese health authorities on the number of infections with the novel coronavirus. In mid-February 2020, 10,008 people in the 50-59 year-old age group were infected with the coronavirus in China. From this age group, the mortality rate in a given disease increases rapidly as a result of SARS-CoV-2. The mortality rate among those over 80 was 14.8 percent at the time of the survey.

the geral mortality rate in each year over 60,61,62,...... years related to average male/female life expectancy !
The average percentage of chance/risc for 80 and over years old people ?

Versicherungsmathematik : STERBETAFEL + GESETZ DER WAHRSCHEINLICHKEIT

Actuarial mathematics: DEATH TABLE + LAW OF LIKELIHOOD


for Germany : https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Bevoelkerungsstand/Glossar/sterbetafel.htm


https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Bevoelkerung/Sterbefaelle-Lebenserwartung/_inhalt.html




                                                                           arithmetical truth :


https://www-genesis.destatis.de/genesis/online?sequenz=tabelleErgebnis&selectionname=12621-0001&sachmerkmal=GES&sachschluessel=GESM


over 50 years age  the geral mortality rate is higher than the average mortality rate of influenza/flue/grippe waves over the seasons !



Now we take the above sentence,only China related and the SARS-Corona virus related  :

".... The mortality rate among those over 80 was 14,8 percent at the time of the survey. ....."

Now we take the Germany DEATH TABLE over 80 and accumulate ages and percentages and death risc/change  :
80 years     5,64%
81 years     6,45%
........
88 years     14,87 %
............

From CHAOS to DE FINIS

Dear peoples,less worry and less hurry ! Gevatter TOD comes to all of us,earlier or later !

 


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fchancen-und-risiken-der-digitalisierung-die-einkommensschere-wird-weiter-auseinandergehen%2F21875606-2.html


Various studies then also predict that between twelve and more than 40 percent of jobs in Germany could be lost in the next two decades alone, net of new jobs being created.

We have a global oversized economy, 1/3 over-consume capacity easily to diminuate !


https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs21643810/5172538585-w1280-h960/RTS366NU.jpg



Individuals traffic free cities !



https://bilder3.n-tv.de/img/incoming/origs4357506/7782537457-w1280-h960/autobahn.jpg


Priorities : usefull to useless



Enforced economy change velocity from two decades to several months :


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fmediathek%2Fvideos%2Fpanorama%2FEinschraenkung-wird-mehrere-Monate-dauern-article21647966.html


                                                 restriction will last "several months"




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FDas-ist-wie-im-Krieg-article21647282.html


1929 and 1987 : die auf Goldstandart basierende 1920+ Wirtschaft global hatte auf WW1 Reparationszahlungen des DEUTSCHEN REICHS sich "angelehnt" und Kredite aufgenommen bis dann die fuer diese Zahlungen zustaendige DANAT-Bank Liquiditaets-"sudden death" anmeldete mit folgender globaler Kettenreaktion


1987 die auf Hypotheken-Kredite basierte japanische Wirtschaft musste aufgrund Einfuehrung einer 0,5% Immobiliensteuer sich refinanzieren und Auslandsvermoegen repatriieren,Geldschwund insbesonders durch NIKKEI-Crash : verstaerkt durch Future-Handel ! Nomura-Desaster !




2020 : die F.E.D. und EZB sind Geld-/Vermoegens-arm,aber verfuegen ueber virtuelle-kaum gesicherte- Finanzierungs-"Instrumente".
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