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Title: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on February 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWESbALZELQ&feature=youtu.be
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This video shows you how to build an over-unity device using PrimerField magnetic arrays. This video also lays some important groundwork for the next video on a fusion-based PrimerField energy source.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Toolofcortex on February 02, 2020, 04:46:24 AM
Can you imagine how messy this would get and expensive for a 10kw machine?
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: skywatcher on February 02, 2020, 12:06:32 PM
Its the same as the SMOT: will not work in closed loop.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Toolofcortex on February 02, 2020, 03:58:05 PM
He said that there should be spacers?

 ;D

At what point does somebody apply quality control to his/her invention and say  OK, this might not be doable.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: shylo on February 02, 2020, 10:48:15 PM
Its the same as the SMOT: will not work in closed loop
I agree, the power it takes to enter

is greater than the force when exiting.
artv
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: conradelektro on February 03, 2020, 08:58:37 PM
Look at his WEB site https://primercube.org/ and you will see that it contains very strange claims like health benefits and an ion thruster, all based on a bell shaped magnet.

The experiment shown in his video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWESbALZELQ&feature=youtu.be seems to be the only tangible result which is far from health benefits or an ion thruster.


The WEB site https://primercube.org/ seems to present hopes and imagined designs and not facts.

Greetings, Conrad



Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: skywatcher on February 03, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
The health effects are more plausible than any 'overunity' effects.
Spinning magnets generate torsion fields, and torsion fields have biological effects.

If those effects are positive or negative for your health is a different question.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Toolofcortex on February 03, 2020, 10:05:21 PM
Quite interresting.

For a desperate person that is sick and not getting better by traditionnal means, why not?
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on April 24, 2022, 01:33:29 AM


New Videos from. David laPoint



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9q_IvxWoY4E&t=7s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9q_IvxWoY4E&t=7s)
https://youtu.be/SmZ59U_oq-c (https://youtu.be/SmZ59U_oq-c)



Thanks
Chet
Ps on Fusion claims
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/02/08/what-is-behind-the-us-navys-ufo-fusion-energy-patent/?sh=24a7dcdb4733 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/02/08/what-is-behind-the-us-navys-ufo-fusion-energy-patent/?sh=24a7dcdb4733)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iwp_FedbaAI&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iwp_FedbaAI&feature=youtu.be)


https://www.google.com/search?q=Salvatore+Pais&oq=Salvatore+Pais&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i512j0i512l2j69i60j0i512l2.715j0j9&client=ms-android-oppo-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=Salvatore+Pais&oq=Salvatore+Pais&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i512j0i512l2j69i60j0i512l2.715j0j9&client=ms-android-oppo-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)


Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on April 26, 2022, 05:07:53 PM
Bump
Jimboot sharpens a climbing axe to through at the FE barrier wall …..
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4279.msg98743;topicseen#msg98743 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4279.msg98743;topicseen#msg98743)


Maybe we could ask for a spot on CaptainPecan/Floodrod/gyula builders board ( 3D printer and other skills ?


Shared with gratitude and respect
Chet K
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on April 29, 2022, 03:01:43 PM
Jimboot s getting it done


(Handling those neos must be daunting!

Quote from Jim ( link above)

Ok 1st one complete. Getting the pms in is a bitch. It will fire other neos 3m across the room. So he is right about that.
------------------------Shared with gratitude and respect
Chet K
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on April 30, 2022, 05:43:51 AM
Thank for posting Chet. David ticks all the boxes for me to attempt replication. Open source, trained working scientist and it came to him in a vision  8)  which is cool. I have a few skinned knuckles  ;D  re the entry/exit forces required and sticky points. Given that in his experiment shows 4 bowls with the pm passing through, he has demonstrated (for me anyway) that this is not suffering the same issues as other mag gates I’ve worked on. The length of the pm passing through the bowl is important. With all n facing out in the bowl a s facing pm is initially dragged in. The sticky point is at the base.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on April 30, 2022, 07:54:37 AM
Jim
If we make a respectful venue here
We undoubtedly will be able to invite
David !


Thanks for doing this ,Will reach out for Stefan tomorrow (actually it’s later today )
About a moderated builders board !


Tremendous Gratitude
Chet K
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on May 01, 2022, 06:49:00 AM
Sounds good Chet.


With the bowls placed 60mm apart,  the gap between back and front is 15mm. As the 38mm stack of neos exits the first bowl, half of it has already entered the 2nd bowl. I’ll be buying more neos to complete the 2nd bowl. I think this may work as described.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Floor on May 01, 2022, 07:04:02 AM
First video posted here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWESbALZELQ&feature=youtu.be

Measuring the           total work that must be done          in order to push the stack of
magnets into a single one of the domed field units (up to the very point at which the stack
is drawn in) must be done in order to know if the input is less than the output. Peak force
is not an indication of the work done / energy expended. 
                    Yes, that is, total work     in each direction    of entry.

If a linear / series array of the bowls is accelerating the stack of magnets,,,
1. Are the fields from the bowls combining ?
2. If the fields are combining, has this increased the work required to
initially, insert the magnet stack ?

The voltage is successively increasing as the stack progresses through each / the
next bowl.
1. Is this due to an increased speed of travel of the magnet stack ?
2. Is this due to a combining of the bowl fields ?
3. is it work from permanent  magnets ?

If the device were self looped the speed of the travel of the stacked magnets
might continue to increase until some balance against wind resistance is arrived at
or the device exceeds its own mechanical strength to retain the magnet stacks against
centrifugal forces.

Higher speed would produce greater energy and greater power.

Net gain, may or may, or may not be there.  The test method may be flawed.

Opinion...
The demonstrations and oscilloscope displays do not as yet / definitively, demonstrate
a net gain in work from the magnet interactions.
                due to no...
1. peer review
2. replication
3. additional kinds of tests.

Opinion...
1. peer review
2. replication
3. additional kinds of tests.
         are merited here

    P.S.

Thank you to David La Point
        for sharing your explorations !
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on May 01, 2022, 11:45:58 PM
Thanks floor. I hope to do some of those tests. So far with my second bowl 20% complete, it gets past the sticky point and still shoots the pm a distance of 3m. I hope to have 3 bowls completed by the weekend.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on May 02, 2022, 01:11:43 PM
This bloke has already answered a lot of questions. Interesting stuff. https://youtu.be/DjNg7mxCNYk (https://youtu.be/DjNg7mxCNYk)
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Floor on May 02, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
regarding this video at "tech planet"

                             https://youtu.be/DjNg7mxCNYk

That only a small amount of curvature can be tolerated in the tube / path,
seemed I think obvious from the start.

It remains that the work (not simply peak force) needed to insert the magnet stack
has not been measured / demonstrated.

Without building enough magnet domes to complete a circle, but by building
2, 3 or four domes, one can determine if the work needed to      initially     insert
the stacked magnets increases when there are two, three or four magnet
domes in a row.   I wish the guy at "tech planet" had measured / or might yet
measure this ?

As an aside...
note also, that a        similar        effect can be had, using a series of ring magnets.
Magnets like those found in microwave ovens. Those, are axially magnetized, but have
no dome shape.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on May 02, 2022, 03:18:04 PM
Smot loop/track of some sort …even an incline ramp with scale on output (distance over height delineation)
To duplicate a static release at input to see if it breaks through the gate ?
I would imagine a loop ( out put overtop return to input ) must have been played
with ?


Seems we will be trying to invite David here for discussion and perhaps others who have experimented.
However it will be most interesting to FE physicist community
His Room temperature fusion experiments ? !
Respectfully
ChetKremens@gmail.com


Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Floor on May 02, 2022, 10:36:58 PM
   Partial quote
However it will be most interesting to FE physicist community
His Room temperature fusion experiments ? !
Respectfully
ChetKremens@gmail.com

                Agree...
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on May 16, 2022, 02:03:15 PM
Magnet will fire through two bowls with minimum force. I’m going to measure the difference in force and distance travelled when firing through 1 bowl vs 2. Eyeballing there seems no difference.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: Jimboot on May 17, 2022, 02:14:01 PM
Ok same results as David and tech planet. 360gr of force will propel the pm the same distance with one or two bowls. Due to the shape of the bowls the opposing field at the top is weaker than the focused smaller attracting field at the base. So as soon as it ejects the first bowl it is already past the the sticky point in the second and is in attraction . This gate in theory imho could do what David claims. Before I get to fusion I’d like to investigate these fields more.
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: truesearch on May 25, 2022, 01:10:05 AM
Jimboot

Anything new to report on your experimenting?
Just curious where this might go. . . .
Title: Re: David La Point and over unity claim
Post by: ramset on May 25, 2022, 01:38:20 AM
Sir
Jim started a new board here
https://overunity.com/19120/primer-field-overunity-device/msg567190/#msg567190 (https://overunity.com/19120/primer-field-overunity-device/msg567190/#msg567190)


I believe it is hoped that Mr.LaPointe may eventually contribute to the topic .


Respectfully
Chet K