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Author Topic: Two kinds of induction - Henry  (Read 8631 times)

Offline nix85

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2020, 03:22:10 AM »
nooo!  ;D   not a few lines. Any flux that the core accepts crosses that hole in the core....

thats not true, most of the flux is contained in the core. leakage is minimal to null. it does not account for the secondary voltage, that is beyond any doubt.

"measurable magnetic field" is not what induces voltage in the secondary, it is the A-FIELD or however u wanna call it.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2020, 03:35:53 PM »
The work of Edwards and Saha demonstrates their theory of how transformers work via the Poynting vector or S flow.  See attached below.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2020, 06:11:48 PM »
as authors themselves admit "The fundamentals of power flow in transformers have been examined, at least at a conceptual level"

they are theorizing about something they dont know, totally disregarding subtler energetic forms of which magnetism is a byproduct, something that is the key to whole operation.

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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2020, 07:04:42 PM »
as authors themselves admit "The fundamentals of power flow in transformers have been examined, at least at a conceptual level"

they are theorizing about something they dont know, totally disregarding subtler energetic forms of which magnetism is a byproduct, something that is the key to whole operation.

In the context of paragraph 5 in the first paper from which you quoted, they have done the tests and have confirmed their theory.  For more proof of this, check section 4 of the second paper which is titled "Experimental Results with Cores".

These two individuals have many papers online which are most informative for example-

"Establishment of Current in Inductors"

"Conduction and Displacement Currents in Capacitors"

"Diffusion of Currents into Conductors"

"Establishment of Magnetic Fields in Coils"

"Physical Principles of Magnetism"

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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2020, 07:15:50 PM »
In the context of paragraph 5 in the first paper from which you quoted, they have done the tests and have confirmed their theory.  For more proof of this, check section 4 of the second paper which is titled "Experimental Results with Cores".

These two individuals have many papers online which are most informative for example-

"Establishment of Current in Inductors"

"Conduction and Displacement Currents in Capacitors"

"Diffusion of Currents into Conductors"

"Establishment of Magnetic Fields in Coils"

"Physical Principles of Magnetism"

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Pm

even if their measurements are in alignment with their poynting vector "explanation", its more like a lucky coincidence than proof.

u can NOT talk about magnetic induction without putting main focus on the subtler energy of which magnetic field is a byproduct.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2020, 07:45:17 PM »
Hi, interesting topic. I've always been a fan of Ampere's Law. Saying only current passing through the doughnut hole counts.
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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2020, 07:50:23 PM »
lets remember main topic are two kinds of induction discovered by henry.

and this is highly related to what we discuss now

one weaker which cannot be screened except with iron (i wonder if he tried nickel and cobalt)

and another that can be screened by any metal


i think what he measured as a weaker non-screenable induction is faster part of the magnetic field, something close to but not gravity. just like edgard hollingshead extracted neutral energy from electricity and used it to degravitate matter, to increase it's atomic speed he called it, cause this same neutral energy is in everything but at different speeds/frequencies, that in matter being orders of magnitude slower than in electricity.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2020, 08:05:01 PM »
Perhaps this article is of interest.
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https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/7/8/142/htm

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2020, 09:14:55 PM »
something about magnetic poles

geographic north - magnetic south - MALE - POSITIVE, expansive (where ufos leave - repulsive pole)

geographic south - magnetic north - FEMALE - NEGATIVE, contractive (where ufos come in - atractive pole)

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2020, 09:35:08 PM »
also, so called poynting vector is closely associated with a-field i mentioned and gravity.

this was discovered by late Gennady F. Ignatyev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn7qO7F8sOc

he claims weight reduction of 60N aka 6kg with 40kW.

his system is VERY inefficient, hutchison levitated a 35kg cannoball with 75 watts.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2020, 11:23:57 PM »
Nix,

I don't wish to derail your thread but the following may be instructive in regards to the fields in a closed toroid core.

The bench device tested is shown in the first pix.  It is a 2" OD ferrite toroid core with an RS pot core inserted in the center of the hole.  The schematic is shown in the second pix with Lh representing the coil on the RS core.  A resonating cap Cres is connected across the output of Lh.  The primary of the toroid is driven by an ac source and the secondary is loaded with a resistive load.

Pix three shows the scope measurements of the assembly.  CH2(blu) shows the input ac voltage at ~11kHz fed to the primary, CH3(pnk) shows the output voltage across Cres, CH1(yel) is the output voltage across the load RL, and CH4(grn) is the current in the primary.  Note the peak voltage of 372v at the positive peak and Cres is .047uf so the saturating resonant energy is ~ +-3.25mJ each cycle.

What is important here is the fact that Lh is driven into extreme saturation as is indicated by the flat top of the voltage across Cres.  The question is, 'what is creating the saturation of the un-gapped RS core and the resulting energy?'  Keep in mind that Lh is not electrically connected to the toroid's circuitry and the A field is not the source.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2020, 11:52:53 PM »
i just dont understand what u mean "A field is not the source", a-field is ALWAYS the source, what we perceive as magnetic field is just it's axis (according to rick anderson's etheric smoke ring model which i believe to be accurate).

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2020, 02:41:44 AM »
In this example, it is the H field or magnetizing force that drives Lh into saturation.  Notice the axis of orientation of RS core for Lh in the pix in relation to the open core areas between the primary and secondary windings.  It is in these open areas that the mmf or ampturns exits one side and re-enters the opposite side when the secondary is loaded or shorted or in opposite polarity to the primary and in this case it alternates at the input frequency.

If the RS core is rotated out of alignment with the open core areas, the saturation of Lh will diminish and will eventually cease at 90 degrees of rotation.

This presence of the H field is seen in every transformer configuration and is caused by the normal Lenz effect of the secondary. 

If anyone attempts to replicate this effect, the input frequency must be initially lowered to a point that raises the H field current to a high enough level to saturate the RS core.  Once the core "snaps" into saturation, the frequency can then be raised to a much higher level as in this example.

In reference to whether this could be attributed to the A field, keep in mind some hold to the belief that the A field is a mathematical construct only.

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Re: Two kinds of induction - Henry
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2020, 04:38:34 AM »
"It is in these open areas that the mmf or ampturns exits one side and re-enters the opposite side when the secondary is loaded or shorted or in opposite polarity to the primary and in this case it alternates at the input frequency."

so flux in the middle appears due to secondary current when secondary is loaded, yet secondary current is result of flux in the middle cutting the secondary. do u see the catch 22, that for flux in the middle to appear there already has to be secondary current and how is there a secondary current if middle h field has not yet formed.

there is no avoiding the a-field, and this is only one of examples that prove it's existence.

 

 

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