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## Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 12:46:11 PM

Title: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 12:46:11 PM
HI ALL I AM A CAP LOCK ADDICT SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
AS PER THIS DIAGRAM WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 200 % overunity.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: citfta on November 26, 2019, 12:56:36 PM

It appears that you don't understand basic physics.  A lever converts force into distance or vice versa.  It does not produce over unity.  In your example the end of the lever connected to the generator will have 200 % less force than the end connected to the motor.  And that end will have to move in a much bigger circle than what you have drawn.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 12:58:00 PM
EXTRAPULATED.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 01:01:22 PM
CORRECTOMONDO CRITA
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 01:05:30 PM
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A lever is a rigid body capable of rotating on a point on itself. ... A lever amplifies an input force to provide a greater output force, which is said to provide leverage. The ratio of the output force to the input force is the mechanical advantage of the lever.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: citfta on November 26, 2019, 01:25:05 PM
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A lever is a rigid body capable of rotating on a point on itself. ... A lever amplifies an input force to provide a greater output force, which is said to provide leverage. The ratio of the output force to the input force is the mechanical advantage of the lever.

That is true but it only tells half the story.  The input force has to move farther than the output force for the output force to be greater.  In your drawing the output force will be much smaller than the input force.  Force times distance equals power.  A lever only converts one into the other.  It does NOT increase power therefore it cannot give overunity.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
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Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: lancaIV on November 26, 2019, 03:54:16 PM
https://jbpowersystems.weebly.com/  ( Jerry Blevins R. I. P)

Watching and studying the use from the given formulas. !

https://jbpowersystems.weebly.com/the-energy-multiplier-system.html
"In this picture is a person moving .... "

Such real world demonstration would give the possibility to exermine input/output mechanical/heat/electricalresults. !
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 26, 2019, 09:50:40 PM
HI I AM SORRY BUT THERE SHOULD BE A CORRECTION OF THE ABOVE DIAGRAM.
THE MOTOR SHOULD BE THE GENERATOR AND VICE VERSA.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: citfta on November 26, 2019, 10:19:31 PM
It makes no difference which is the motor and which is the generator.  The video you linked to clearly shows the lever only trades force for distance.  The power is the same on both ends of the lever.  You can get more force with shorter travel or more travel with less force.  No OVERUNITY!!  The math in the video clearly shows this.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 27, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
YEAH CRITA ONE LITTLE SECRET I AM KEEPING CLOSE TO MY LITTLE HEART..
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: fritznien on November 28, 2019, 08:31:55 AM
then you have nothing to tell us.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 28, 2019, 08:50:54 AM
We all know lever physics...

However, when the length of the lever approaches
a greater than negligible % of 9.8m:

There is a gravitational effect of acceleration.
As Archer Quinn showed us in the “roll on June 20th” thread
This effect can have considerable consequences on the mathematics.

MGH
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 28, 2019, 09:00:05 AM
That fact is off of this subject, but to discount leverage on its’ own accord
Is folly.

Tangential force of a rotating mass can have more momentum
than the force that it derived from.

Although the time derivative associates a longer spin-up duration
The negative force is overcome by the momentum in many set-ups.
in laymen’s terms, it takes more energy for the smaller motor to
stop the larger spinning mass than it took to spin it up.
Force / time

This does not necessarily mean “overunity”, but it cannot be ruled out
in every situation.

There exists motor/gen combinations which are viable for our purpose.
(and 1000x more hoaxes replicating the same)
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on November 28, 2019, 10:41:13 AM
JUST OBSERVE AND APPRECIATE THE PICS OF THE LOCOMOTIVE DRIVE WHEELS.
ARE THEY ASSYMTRICAL OR NOT.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: lancaIV on November 28, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
sm0key,it is not for me the point : OU ~ surplus output energy or not  !
The lever effect is as same like a transmission/transformer step up or step down ratio effect,working with motors and generators the seconds need low rpm and this makes the use of motor-generator concepts expensive  !
The given transmission ratio for a driving vehicle  :
This now as stationary motor-generator set. :
when we calculate for a 1 KW 3000 RPM  generator with 100 Euros selling price then

For 1 KW :

3000 RPM. 100 Euros
1500 RPM.  200 Euros
750 RPM.    400 Euros
375 RPM.    800 Euros
187,5 RPM. 1600 Euros
this list above are only the 1 KW generator part costs - fob factory-

+ electric motor  costs + transmission gear

calculating then all the investment sum ( 2500 Euros per KW nominal and 0,7 KW net) and amortize for each KWh- electricity generation costs we get

5 Euro-cents/KWh ( 2500 x 0,125) / (8766 x 0,7) where 0,125 the then years amortization by 2,5% capial tax and 8766 the permanent work in hours per year and 0,7 the net KWh output ( generator less motor input and gear losses)

~ conventional wind generator and photovoltaic electricity KWh- costs with lower investment need

This are net production costs without " patent price leverage" : typical factor ~ 6 times the production costs
Nobody in industry will invest in a 30 Euro-cents/KWh motor-generator marketing concept, specially in this case without patent rights safety !

Only when in future the EZB will inflationate by helicopter-money the energy market prices by 1000% and more  !

A first physical and economical difference is to use higher rpm electric motors ( from grid- norm 3000 RPM/50Hz) to 6000 RPM/100 Hz or 12000 RPM/ 200 Hz and using 375 RPM ( by 6000  RPM motor )
or now " conventional small wind" 750 RPM ( by 12000 RPM motor) generator which let us get the total investment sum lower. !

Watching this"step down concept"  like many others vids about OU or conventional energy transforming devices I do calculate the equipment costs per KWh-unit :

Near the 3 Eurocents/KWh by permanent work , only calculating with production costs : no profit diy project

The only worth of OU-devices is to generate elctricity/energy cheaply. ! The OU-effect by itself is worthless  !

For me free wind-, free radiation-/free gravity-/free water force and free molecular/atomar forces and their to electricity conversion are "OU"-same. !
FREE = F UNITS ~ OU UNITS , free ~ temporarily unbonded ( Gibbs theorem)

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 03, 2019, 06:03:00 AM
the egg farmer had a similar conversation with the man who grew meat chickens...

Are we talking about the ‘economic viability’ of a disruptive technology?

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 06, 2019, 04:05:39 PM
HERE I GO AGAIN. NEVER SAY DIE UNTIL YOU ARE AT THE GATE OF HELL.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 06, 2019, 07:01:29 PM
HEW IMPROVED VERSION.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 06, 2019, 07:14:43 PM
CURRY FRUIT BAT MAKE ME DO THIS.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 09, 2019, 06:00:27 PM
TOO MUCH MORINGA GREEN TEA.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 10, 2019, 05:20:33 PM
Me likes
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 10, 2019, 05:25:35 PM
Its fucking garbage, you should try simming it.

Are you gonna get mad now Seychelles? Now that I told you that your drawings  were garbage?

Is anybody gonna build that thing? Nope.

Will it work? Nope.

If I was in the woods with no toilet paper, would I wipe my ass with it? Probably.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 10, 2019, 07:41:34 PM
Go play around in Algodoo, then go and determine if its more cost efficient to hire a physicist who will model it vs machining it.

You people bore me. Such futility and lack of state of art methods.

Pretending as if you were a mad scientist or something.

Time for a smack down, you dnt have the balls nor the heart to be a mad scientist.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: ramset on December 10, 2019, 11:25:35 PM
ArmCortex
ToolofCortex and other alias’s

Here the rules are quite liberal and still You push the boundaries of inappropriate behavior .

And now you polute the nice screaming fisherman’s topic ?

One fellow who warned me years ago about your unscrupulous behavior of acting a friend
Wanting to help....

I have not spoken to that friend ...a most sincere and caring man

Tonight I will call him ,for that I thank you ,however it is just to get my facts straight for the Boss.
People should know who and what you really are (besides the obvious)

Here we work open source ...

Some pretty amazing people with remarkable ability and resources frequent these open source venues.
And they have some Great paths to investigate.

Chet K
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 10, 2019, 11:46:50 PM
People with remarkable abilities to you is just the next scam artist.

Where are those people? O yeah, not posting because they are scared to get shut down ROFL.

If I had 1\$ everytime you elevated some random copycat with a big mouth, I would probably have like 10 000\$ seriously.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: ramset on December 11, 2019, 06:13:48 PM
Tool

https://overunity.com/18340/this-forum-is-turning-into-trash/msg540880/#msg540880

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 12, 2019, 05:01:48 AM
Its fucking garbage, you should try simming it

Did You?
Run it through a simulator software?
Or even attempt to perform a few basic equations?

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 12, 2019, 05:09:22 AM
People with remarkable abilities to you is just the next scam artist.

Where are those people? O yeah, not posting because they are scared to get shut down ROFL.

If I had 1\$ everytime you elevated some random copycat with a big mouth, I would probably have like 10 000\$ seriously.

Last time I checked, those people were right here.
Technologies researched right here on this forum and its’ 10 affiliates (2mil+people)
Have helped reshape the face of the earth.
Every major country, every internet possessing society....

We are at the top of Google technological searches, above Harvard and Yale.
I think that speaks for itself.
If you haven’t found anything useful here, it is possible that such things are
beyond your comprehension or you simply aren’t looking for it.
The real question is why are you still here?
You have been banned already and created a new nomenclature for you to still be here.
There aren’t other places for you to try to find cutting edge technology?
If we are so “trash”, “garbage”, and “useless”, why are you wasting your time and ours
to come here and spout out about it???

You want to call us ‘scam artists’
What did you do with the videos and photos?
What did you do with them?
After you pilfered knowledge you can’t even understand

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 05:44:09 AM
I already have my own gameplan, and coil designs.

On many technology.

Do you?

hahahahahaha.

I think the issue is that you are mad, because I have coil designs, and you dont.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 12, 2019, 05:52:52 AM
I already have my own gameplan, and coil designs.

On many technology.

Do you?

hahahahahaha.

Thank you for sharing

Do I?
And very few of them would understand what they were reading.

I have shared all but 3 of my inventions freely.
And the ones I keep, are kept for safety and security.
Are not meant to be ‘public knowledge’.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 05:57:50 AM

This site is simply not very competent in terms of building what I ordered to be built.

For example: The Stephen Meyer Paper.

There should be 10 people attacking this.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 12, 2019, 06:25:58 AM

This site is simply not very competent in terms of building what I ordered to be built.

For example: The Stephen Meyer Paper.

There should be 10 people attacking this.

The man is no doubt in the 99th %tile
He has patents on everything from whip cream, shampoo, to technologies that control the
electricity properties of synthesized matter.

But nothing he says actually points to “overunity”.
Which is what we actually research.
Sure, we spend a lot of time on projects that simply convert one form of energy to another
as a convenient supply of usable power,
But our true goal is the search of free energy, over unity, zero point, violations of
thermodynamic theory.

These things exist.
And it is that which brings us together.

If you feel strongly about a topic,
Create a thread devoted to the subject.
Build a prototype, experiment with your theories.
That is what we do here.
What’s the worst that could happen? You prove yourself wrong or right?
It is obvious that our opinions are not your main concern.
So why not go for it?
Build your design and show us the results!

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 06:32:31 AM
I am busy with other matters.

I should have underlings.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Temporal Visitor on December 12, 2019, 02:10:31 PM
I am busy with other matters.

Just so you can't escape your own "WORDS" by later editing:
You wrote; "I am busy with other matters."

So what?
Don't you think EVERYONE else is also situated similarly?

I should have underlings.

Again, so you can't escape your own "WORDS":
You wrote; "I should have underlings."

Perhaps one as original and special as you can and should have underlings.
There is no doubt that others already have them, and they do exist so logically it seems you could as well.

What is it that stops you from having all you WANT and dream about when and how you WANT IT?

How well did your plan to get online funding work out for a build of your wet dream machine?

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: citfta on December 12, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
I am busy with other matters.

I should have underlings.

Why would anyone want to be YOUR underling?  You treat everyone as if they were beneath your great intellect.  When the fact is YOU have actually shown no one anything worth wasting time on.  Did you ever get any REAL physicists to do the calculations for you that YOU couldn't do for your Great Project?
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 04:20:47 PM
I have shown many good things to try, 4 in fact.

The pulsing wheel test bench.

The centrifugal engine.

The Stephen Meyer 3 phase patent. ( the brother of stan meyer)

The idea of an automatic test bench for TPU.

Would an underling think of these things? No!

The underling is there to execute and be patted on the back.

Besides, you are already underlings, all your life you have been. So whats the problem now?
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 12, 2019, 06:33:10 PM

Toolofcortex THE BEST MANURE COMES FROM BULLSHIT LIKE YOU. AND WE JUST HOPE SOMETHING GOOD
WILL GROW OUT OF YOU.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 11:45:08 PM

HAHAHA.

Learn to not be mad, I wont give you a Me Likes comment like Smoky.

He feels like being nice to you, I feel like slamming you. That is all. Becaue we both know that if I was the one financing you to build such a crap device, and being there the moment you start the machine.

This machine would probably just stop right away, or explode. Because you will not have calculated it, and used your BRAINS. Because you are druggy saying gibberish.

Because nobody from MIT ever viits these boards, or experiments, its all boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dumb.

You know that you made a garbage invention and nothing would ever happen of it, you know this.

When you troll, I will troll. Slam, because its fun. I have already told you the only possible way.

But you know, maybe its not possible... You want to believe too much, I am not sure.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 12, 2019, 11:50:11 PM
This is the founder of “Intelligent Design” theory
Made most of his fame on b.s. relating DNA to his god-myth

He has several great medical patents, many of which are used in
industry.

But as it pertains to his hydroxyl patent
His 3-phase electrolysis refueling station is rudimentary and inefficient
Also not cost feasible for the hydrogen economy.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 12, 2019, 11:57:53 PM
Smoky Stephen meyer never invented anything else wtf.

Show me.

I like the wording in that patent its interresting anyways.. Stop finding lame excuses for dissing it.

Anyways its way over your head honestly. Thats why I am trying to subcontract this work, for me too I have to admit...

Who is gonna build my stuff for me? Do I really have to do everything?

I call upon businessmen obviously, these sort of effors dont come cheap, and we know society wants to steal from greta minds.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 13, 2019, 12:11:49 AM
You mistake his name my friend.

Stephen Meyer is  a quiet man.

You are much too confused, and lazy, to pass judgement on this paper.

Sorry but, this is a tall order that you are unfit for.

This man isa very serious engineer, his background is impeccable, GOOD pedigree.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 13, 2019, 06:42:53 AM
1) Fuel cells are much safer when the gasses are kept separate.

2) low-voltage DC electrolysis is much more efficient than 3-phase a/c electrolysis.

3) he was just trying to capitalize an emerging industry.
Nothing interesting is in that patent....

“There should be 10 people attacking this”. ???

2x 3-phase washer motors hooked in QuMoGen config
W/ a triac underwater and Brown’s Gas pouring out....
What a wonderfully costful way to endanger 10 of your ‘underlings’.

What will you do with 10 Brown’s Gas dispensers?

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Temporal Visitor on December 13, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
Smoky Stephen meyer never invented anything else wtf.

Show me.

I like the wording in that patent its interresting anyways.. Stop finding lame excuses for dissing it.

Anyways its way over your head honestly. Thats why I am trying to subcontract this work, for me too I have to admit...

Who is gonna build my stuff for me? Do I really have to do everything?

I call upon businessmen obviously, these sort of effors dont come cheap, and we know society wants to steal from greta minds.

Well you rattle on about others being lazy and worse, in less than 30 seconds YOU could have found this for yourself - (but didn't) - https://stephencmeyer.org/
Please be sure to watch the 5+ minute video you will find there for insight.

While it is not verified to be IN FACT the same Mr. Meyer you refer to - IMHO it is quite relevant to everyone's believed inability to achieve the impossible: "Energy and Matter cannot be created or destroyed ......"

The apparent lack of comprehension as to "The Origins of Information:" and all that IS "this reality" is a major step for many.

People may not enjoy learning the information required to attain irrefutable proof of what precisely what "energy" IS, as well as how, where, when and why it IS what it IS. However any who will and do, in doing so learn a whole lot more that becomes visible as self evident truth that cannot be gotten around, by any man. (My lowly self included, and God knows my attempts.)

However to step from simply dreaming of having what you WANT to being able to bring it into reality is rather simple.

The FIRST step is to DO YOUR OWN WORK. (if you can)

Or PAY A WORKMAN HIS WAGE. (When you cannot)

"FREE" Clue: DO NOTHING - GET NOTHING l
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 13, 2019, 06:54:09 PM
Smoky you come to vary fast and scrappy conclusions. And I disagree with everything besides costly, wich can be mitigated by being good.

And Temporal, yeah I saw that I saw just surprised how imbecile and ignorant of any background Smoky can be sometimes.

The what you get part is self explanatory, you get a motivating project and chance to learn electronics and its surrounding math.

Every underling gets allocated 10 under-underlings, and these people finance the project.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 15, 2019, 06:27:48 PM
FREE ENERGY FOR ALL... LOVE AND GRATITUDE FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF EXISTENCE,
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 15, 2019, 06:28:51 PM
NEW IMPROVED CATALANS MOTOR,
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 15, 2019, 06:35:45 PM
ALL THE NIBS IN THEIR IRON CORES ARE ALL MAGNETICALLY SHUNTED UNTIL THE COILS ARE TRIGGERED
THEN THE MAGNETIC GENIE IS LET LOOSE.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Toolofcortex on December 16, 2019, 05:30:19 AM
zzz

kk

keep fighting that fight
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 16, 2019, 07:28:28 AM
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANITY AND A MONKEY IS, HUMAN BEING HAVE IMAGINATIONS
AND A MONKEY LIKE YOU ZERO.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Raycathode on December 16, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
oops wrong fred ;D
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: Raycathode on December 16, 2019, 01:47:12 PM
NEW IMPROVED CATALANS MOTOR,
Have you got a video clip on it working to view ?
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 16, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
YEAH BUT NOT FOR ARMCHAIR TROL LIKE YOU.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: lancaIV on December 16, 2019, 10:49:19 PM
MECHANICAL LEVERAGE. ?

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15379
Time   0,5/5 seconds
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 17, 2019, 05:34:28 PM
YEAH BUT NOT FOR ARMCHAIR TROL LIKE YOU.

So who DOES get to see your video?
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 17, 2019, 05:45:16 PM
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANITY AND A MONKEY IS, HUMAN BEING HAVE IMAGINATIONS
AND A MONKEY LIKE YOU ZERO.

I hate to break it to you, but almost every animal species is capable of
using Imagination.

Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: seychelles on December 17, 2019, 05:57:08 PM
yeah the last time I check the pilot was a Human being.
Title: Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 19, 2019, 08:33:16 AM
If you give a monkey a doll and show it humans that look like that doll
Doing real things,
The monkey will play with those dolls just like human children do.
Birds also do things that humans would consider “imagination”
Or cognitive thinking about context which is not present.

There are at least 4 bird species that can describe human appearance
in such great detail, future generations of birds can recognize a man