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Author Topic: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE  (Read 13409 times)

lancaIV

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 11:37:01 AM »
sm0key,it is not for me the point : OU ~ surplus output energy or not  !
The lever effect is as same like a transmission/transformer step up or step down ratio effect,working with motors and generators the seconds need low rpm and this makes the use of motor-generator concepts expensive  !
The given transmission ratio for a driving vehicle  :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=19522794&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
This now as stationary motor-generator set. :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=4304132&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
when we calculate for a 1 KW 3000 RPM  generator with 100 Euros selling price then

For 1 KW :

3000 RPM. 100 Euros
1500 RPM.  200 Euros
750 RPM.    400 Euros
375 RPM.    800 Euros
187,5 RPM. 1600 Euros
this list above are only the 1 KW generator part costs - fob factory-

+ electric motor  costs + transmission gear

 calculating then all the investment sum ( 2500 Euros per KW nominal and 0,7 KW net) and amortize for each KWh- electricity generation costs we get

5 Euro-cents/KWh ( 2500 x 0,125) / (8766 x 0,7) where 0,125 the then years amortization by 2,5% capial tax and 8766 the permanent work in hours per year and 0,7 the net KWh output ( generator less motor input and gear losses)

~ conventional wind generator and photovoltaic electricity KWh- costs with lower investment need


This are net production costs without " patent price leverage" : typical factor ~ 6 times the production costs
Nobody in industry will invest in a 30 Euro-cents/KWh motor-generator marketing concept, specially in this case without patent rights safety !

Only when in future the EZB will inflationate by helicopter-money the energy market prices by 1000% and more  !

A first physical and economical difference is to use higher rpm electric motors ( from grid- norm 3000 RPM/50Hz) to 6000 RPM/100 Hz or 12000 RPM/ 200 Hz and using 375 RPM ( by 6000  RPM motor )
or now " conventional small wind" 750 RPM ( by 12000 RPM motor) generator which let us get the total investment sum lower. !

Watching this"step down concept"  like many others vids about OU or conventional energy transforming devices I do calculate the equipment costs per KWh-unit :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=64s&v=UukXtWSLnh8

Near the 3 Eurocents/KWh by permanent work , only calculating with production costs : no profit diy project

The only worth of OU-devices is to generate elctricity/energy cheaply. ! The OU-effect by itself is worthless  !

For me free wind-, free radiation-/free gravity-/free water force and free molecular/atomar forces and their to electricity conversion are "OU"-same. !
  FREE = F UNITS ~ OU UNITS , free ~ temporarily unbonded ( Gibbs theorem)

« Last Edit: November 28, 2019, 01:59:43 PM by lancaIV »

sm0ky2

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2019, 06:03:00 AM »
the egg farmer had a similar conversation with the man who grew meat chickens...




Are we talking about the ‘economic viability’ of a disruptive technology?


seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 04:05:39 PM »
HERE I GO AGAIN. NEVER SAY DIE UNTIL YOU ARE AT THE GATE OF HELL.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 06:34:50 PM by seychelles »

seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 07:01:29 PM »
HEW IMPROVED VERSION.

seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 07:14:43 PM »
CURRY FRUIT BAT MAKE ME DO THIS.

seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2019, 06:00:27 PM »
TOO MUCH MORINGA GREEN TEA.

sm0ky2

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2019, 05:20:33 PM »
Me likes

Toolofcortex

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2019, 05:25:35 PM »
Its fucking garbage, you should try simming it.

Are you gonna get mad now Seychelles? Now that I told you that your drawings  were garbage?

Is anybody gonna build that thing? Nope.

Will it work? Nope.

If I was in the woods with no toilet paper, would I wipe my ass with it? Probably.


Toolofcortex

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2019, 07:41:34 PM »
Go play around in Algodoo, then go and determine if its more cost efficient to hire a physicist who will model it vs machining it.

You people bore me. Such futility and lack of state of art methods.

Pretending as if you were a mad scientist or something.

Time for a smack down, you dnt have the balls nor the heart to be a mad scientist.


ramset

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2019, 11:25:35 PM »
ArmCortex
ToolofCortex and other alias’s


Here the rules are quite liberal and still You push the boundaries of inappropriate behavior .


And now you polute the nice screaming fisherman’s topic ?


One fellow who warned me years ago about your unscrupulous behavior of acting a friend
Wanting to help....
Only to take advantage....


I have not spoken to that friend ...a most sincere and caring man


Tonight I will call him ,for that I thank you ,however it is just to get my facts straight for the Boss.
People should know who and what you really are (besides the obvious)


Here we work open source ...


And regardless your “intuition “
Some pretty amazing people with remarkable ability and resources frequent these open source venues.
And they have some Great paths to investigate.


Chet K

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2019, 11:46:50 PM »
People with remarkable abilities to you is just the next scam artist.

Where are those people? O yeah, not posting because they are scared to get shut down ROFL.

If I had 1$ everytime you elevated some random copycat with a big mouth, I would probably have like 10 000$ seriously.


ramset

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sm0ky2

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2019, 05:01:48 AM »
Its fucking garbage, you should try simming it




Did You?
Run it through a simulator software?
Or even attempt to perform a few basic equations?




sm0ky2

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2019, 05:09:22 AM »
People with remarkable abilities to you is just the next scam artist.

Where are those people? O yeah, not posting because they are scared to get shut down ROFL.

If I had 1$ everytime you elevated some random copycat with a big mouth, I would probably have like 10 000$ seriously.


Last time I checked, those people were right here.
Technologies researched right here on this forum and its’ 10 affiliates (2mil+people)
Have helped reshape the face of the earth.
Every major country, every internet possessing society....


We are at the top of Google technological searches, above Harvard and Yale.
I think that speaks for itself.
If you haven’t found anything useful here, it is possible that such things are
beyond your comprehension or you simply aren’t looking for it.
The real question is why are you still here?
You have been banned already and created a new nomenclature for you to still be here.
There aren’t other places for you to try to find cutting edge technology?
If we are so “trash”, “garbage”, and “useless”, why are you wasting your time and ours
to come here and spout out about it???


You want to call us ‘scam artists’
What did you do with the videos and photos?
Those weren’t your technologies.
What did you do with them?
After you pilfered knowledge you can’t even understand
what were your intentions?




Toolofcortex

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2019, 05:44:09 AM »
I already have my own gameplan, and coil designs.

On many technology.

Do you?

hahahahahaha.

I think the issue is that you are mad, because I have coil designs, and you dont.