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Offline lancaIV

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 11:37:01 AM »
sm0key,it is not for me the point : OU ~ surplus output energy or not  !
The lever effect is as same like a transmission/transformer step up or step down ratio effect,working with motors and generators the seconds need low rpm and this makes the use of motor-generator concepts expensive  !
The given transmission ratio for a driving vehicle  :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=19522794&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
This now as stationary motor-generator set. :
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=4304132&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
when we calculate for a 1 KW 3000 RPM  generator with 100 Euros selling price then

For 1 KW :

3000 RPM. 100 Euros
1500 RPM.  200 Euros
750 RPM.    400 Euros
375 RPM.    800 Euros
187,5 RPM. 1600 Euros
this list above are only the 1 KW generator part costs - fob factory-

+ electric motor  costs + transmission gear

 calculating then all the investment sum ( 2500 Euros per KW nominal and 0,7 KW net) and amortize for each KWh- electricity generation costs we get

5 Euro-cents/KWh ( 2500 x 0,125) / (8766 x 0,7) where 0,125 the then years amortization by 2,5% capial tax and 8766 the permanent work in hours per year and 0,7 the net KWh output ( generator less motor input and gear losses)

~ conventional wind generator and photovoltaic electricity KWh- costs with lower investment need


This are net production costs without " patent price leverage" : typical factor ~ 6 times the production costs
Nobody in industry will invest in a 30 Euro-cents/KWh motor-generator marketing concept, specially in this case without patent rights safety !

Only when in future the EZB will inflationate by helicopter-money the energy market prices by 1000% and more  !

A first physical and economical difference is to use higher rpm electric motors ( from grid- norm 3000 RPM/50Hz) to 6000 RPM/100 Hz or 12000 RPM/ 200 Hz and using 375 RPM ( by 6000  RPM motor )
or now " conventional small wind" 750 RPM ( by 12000 RPM motor) generator which let us get the total investment sum lower. !

Watching this"step down concept"  like many others vids about OU or conventional energy transforming devices I do calculate the equipment costs per KWh-unit :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=64s&v=UukXtWSLnh8

Near the 3 Eurocents/KWh by permanent work , only calculating with production costs : no profit diy project

The only worth of OU-devices is to generate elctricity/energy cheaply. ! The OU-effect by itself is worthless  !

For me free wind-, free radiation-/free gravity-/free water force and free molecular/atomar forces and their to electricity conversion are "OU"-same. !
  FREE = F UNITS ~ OU UNITS , free ~ temporarily unbonded ( Gibbs theorem)

« Last Edit: November 28, 2019, 01:59:43 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 11:37:01 AM »

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2019, 06:03:00 AM »
the egg farmer had a similar conversation with the man who grew meat chickens...




Are we talking about the ‘economic viability’ of a disruptive technology?


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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 04:05:39 PM »
HERE I GO AGAIN. NEVER SAY DIE UNTIL YOU ARE AT THE GATE OF HELL.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 06:34:50 PM by seychelles »

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 04:05:39 PM »
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Offline seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 07:01:29 PM »
HEW IMPROVED VERSION.

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 07:14:43 PM »
CURRY FRUIT BAT MAKE ME DO THIS.

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 07:14:43 PM »
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Offline seychelles

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Re: MECHANICAL LEVERAGE
« Reply #20 on: Today at 06:00:27 PM »
TOO MUCH MORINGA GREEN TEA.

 

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