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Offline br549

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Neuman Motor (br549)
« on: November 19, 2019, 10:38:57 PM »
I didn't know who this Neuman guy was until several months ago, when I accidentally clicked on a youtube video that told his story. What a heart breaker that was. So I decided to look at some more of his history, background and theories. His theory of magnetic's seems to me to make as much, if not more seance (with the experiments he did to support it)  than anything else I've seen lately. I figured that anyone who takes the kind of beating from the Power Brokers and Government (Patent Office) that Joseph Neuman took over his life time and keeps going...in an effort to bring his technology to the people, (and to market),,, there might be something to it.   So I picked up a copy of his book and thought I would build a motor.
The book  (The Energy Machine of Joseph Neuman)  is a little pricey ... it seems that the the printer plates were destroyed in a fire at the print shop that was printing his book??
That being said,, I know less about magnetics than I do about women, which has always been a puzzle to me. So all constructive suggestions and input are welcome.
I used banana plugs on the motor every place I could to make changes easier and faster.

Each coil has 6 pounds of wire, and 2 windings (one on top (29awg) of the other (28 awg).
Total capatance (all coils in series) = 0.015 uf
Total Inductance = 37 H
Total Coil Resistance = 2250 ohms
Resonant Frequency (all coil in series) = 2.2 khz
11,400 turns per coil
wire gauge = first winding 28 awg, second winding = 28 awg
Voltages,    230, 460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlZbG3USWMU

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Neuman Motor (br549)
« on: November 19, 2019, 10:38:57 PM »

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2019, 07:12:38 PM »
I am not real good with  the current probes
so the first thing I want to do is confirm the
output polrirty based on the direction the
probe is placed on the wire being monitored.
So I know which direction the current is flowing
in the wire of circuit. I get confused sometimes
if it's not right in front of me.

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2019, 07:44:11 PM »
Sounds like you are catching a lot of friction
May want to reduce the contact surface area of the commutators
to achieve minimum input current

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2019, 07:44:11 PM »
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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2019, 08:25:35 PM »
I can try that. I can reduce the width of my brass pick-ups. I used crome plated brass
on commutator #1 to try and keep the friction low.

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2019, 08:56:53 PM »
I can try that. I can reduce the width of my brass pick-ups. I used crome plated brass
on commutator #1 to try and keep the friction low.

Attached is a video of the wire commutator running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8t9IAig7Y

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2019, 09:06:53 PM »
Attached is a video of my current motor configuration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTMOMUyPWc&t=29s

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 11:10:01 PM »
The book  (The Energy Machine of Joseph Neuman)  is a little pricey ... it seems that the the printer plates were destroyed in a fire at the print shop that was printing his book??

The book is available for download: http://www.free-energy-info.com/Newman.pdf

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2019, 12:35:40 AM »
Take a look at his machines in operation,
There appears to be an upper inductive bar
across the top, sometimes 2 bars


Does he write anything about that in his book?


https://youtu.be/fFutjEVUD98

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2019, 04:32:40 PM »
I believe that it is part of the wood framework that supports his rotor. In some of his videos on you tube, you can get a better look inside and at the rotor.
About the online book, I looked at it, and it is all good. You can just print out the pages that you want to read, or read them and not print them. I just wanted a signed copy for myself. I am a slow learner, so I had to read his theory several times to get some-what of a handle on it.
Below is a video of the wave forms from the present setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmVJXu4aDQ
I haven't checked the documentation on the current probes, as far as resolution, so there is a good possibility that some of the really fast spikes and pulses are being missed. I am a little reluctant about what I connect to the scopes. I blew a channel last year, and it was expensive for Tectonics to repair it.
So this  is where I need help and direction pertaining to what  the acquired information and test results is telling. I know that there is thousands of people that have a lot more insight and experience than I do.


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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2019, 04:39:30 PM »
OOPs.....please note...on the above video, I made a mistake on the description of the third position of the magnet location in reference to the wave form. The magnet should actually be in the horizontal position to the coils.

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2019, 07:53:31 PM »
Hi there watched your clips and had a quick browse of Mr. Newmans motor book but what I need to know to understand how the N S magnets are spun
with respect to current driving the coils and for how long evades me in most of his setups on youtube.
Any chance you can draw a flat circle with markings to show this please

regards Raymondo

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2019, 10:37:24 PM »
Raymondo:

Attached is Joe's description of what I think you are asking. Is's on page 67 of his book.

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2019, 11:17:24 PM »
Raymondo:
Attached is the drawing of the magnet location in reference to the current waveform

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2019, 07:35:43 AM »
Mine is a bit different to yours I made mine more horizontal with a wall of rotating Neo magnets but same principle idea
but I soon realized the amount of friction drag slip rings and brushes created.

I later decided to learn from J B idea and build a full bridge transistor drive circuit and used a pair of Hall detectors,
The problem with Neo's and Halls is the switching sensitivity can be a further problem and really only Opto devices can accurately
control positioning and on-off time otherwise, it becomes a problem collecting the BEMF.

I can't realy re published J  B circuit here as it might well be copyright  nut you get the idea here.

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Re: Neuman Motor (br549)
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2019, 04:40:44 PM »
Raycathode:
1. How much voltage are you using.
2. Are you able to get a scope shot at the Positive or Negative
    terminal of the battery or power supply.

Right now, when I look at the scope shot on mine, I'm not for
sure what part of the wave form (taken at the positive battery terminal),
is causing the reverse electrolysis (charging battery) if any. From what I've read,
it's the positive going pulses that raise the voltage on the positive (carbon)
electrode above the batteries normal voltage, causing a charging effect
upon the battery. I am trying to understand more about the role that the
--(current--), and current spikes (positive and negative) play in the battery charging
process. It's like a lot of things with me, yesterday I thought I knew, today I'm
not sure. The only thing I am pretty sure of is that this technology does work. But
it's kind of like your first date---It takes some experimentation to figure it out.
This is the waveforms I see with this
test and motor configuration (shown below).
Below pics. show my present scope and test setup.
Some insight from Joe, and thee waveform at the positive
terminal of the battery for one 360 degree rotation of the
rotor.
Shown is one rotation of the rotor.
Notice that the battery voltage dips down
during the time that power is
being applied to the coil. So
most of the positive going voltage
spikes do not exceed the normal
battery voltage of 460 volts. Does that mean
that the battery is not charging, (since the voltage spikes
are not more positive than the normal battery voltage),
or does the positive going current pulses help charge the battery also?
I thought I understood Joe's theory, but I may need to go back
and do another read of it.
I welcome any and all opinions, direction, and feed back.
In my world, there is no such thing thing as a illegitimate question or
opinion..
Have a great day.

 

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