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lancaIV

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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2020, 03:23:26 PM »
When we get 30 Km/h max. City-traffic in future it will be cheaper and more ecological to invest in
"public ebus-share"  !
Comparing ebikes/etrikes their power consume with electric sightseeing busses ( alibaba) up to 17 seats and these ebusses their edrive it will be easier to transform these  to 150 Wh/100 km range consumer,
on the tect solarcells installable for permanent daily drive in solar zones  !
150 Wh/100 Km = 1,5 Wh/Km / 17 passengers( seats) ~ 0,1 Wh per passenger/kilometer  !

Actually conventional ebus equipment - power drive- 3-15 KW motor the last number to compare with " VW NILS" concept design from 2011 for urban individual  traffic !
( Also this VW to 150 Wh/100 Km convertable ! )

With solarcells : NegaWatt-ebus
When the average conventional ebus fob factory costs 7500 Euros the converted low-e urban transporter will be in the 8750 Euros range ,without solar cells installed !

Share-price 500 Euros prr seat/passenger is more attractive for many low use and/or low income zones public transport user !
Later also driver-free technology installable !

With lower vehicle prices the circuit time by the ebus-station can become forced/lowered  :from 30/20 minutes frequency to 10/5 minutes ebus circuit wait time max. !

"public e-bus",low-e cabin bike/trike ,4wheel cabin bikes( as 1/2/3/4 seater)  are solution for max.25% from all trafficants !
Actually personal view !
But 30 Km/h max. by law in the Cities and under permanent observation ( the EU ecall-system obligation for traffic vehicles) and velocity controle let change the people mind  !

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 12:48:47 PM »
US3513929 Dae Sik Kim Low polluting engine and drive system ( ExxonMobile Research)
Recitating : " .... 60 dynamometer HP ,which corresponds to 40 axle-HP ....."
Compressed air engine

Citing documents : US3925984 Holleyman and US2010009609 Usmani
This are the examples for the future electric driven vehicles with hybrid power sources : CAE-gensets,closed cycle

The 1988 Magnet-Motor,Starnberg(AEG- company) M.A.N. citybus 200 HP conventional engine to 20 HP engine + flywheel conversion ( technical success,but caused by expensive flywheel systems costs not economical)

austinev.org : 1 HP internal combustion engine corresponds 1/15 HP nominal electric motor

di Pietro www.engineair.com.au physical conventional drive/CAE comparison

Ralf Walge ic-engine gen-set ,with flywheel,combustion savings in the 65% range .This flywheel gen-set with CAE ?

Winfield Salisbury 1975 hybrid- concept : instead 9 liter/100 Km only 2,25 Liter/100 Km

Kurt Fritzsche hybrid : instead 6 Liter/100 Km 50% less : 3 Liter/100 KmWith average 40% efficient ic-engine,with gun-engine ( Holubowicz,≥ 90% eff. ?)  the performance ?
With di Pietro ≥ 90% CAE- genset  ?
With " non conventional" electric motor and generator ?With Victor Arestov combined windings,Lam Dat,Imris,.....
With brake energy recuperation  ?

Average 10 KWh ~ 1 Liter/100 Km fuel consume : fossil- hydro-carb/Nitro-  air- electric

Richard Proeschel proepowersystems engine with better performance than actual fuel cells ,included regenerator.
Multifuel-ability

Reva NGX roadster,nominal 37 KW electric motor ( peak 37 x 1,5) but average 12 KWh/100 Km electricity consume.
Brake energy recuperation : 3 KWh/100 Km ~ 25 % savings

E-bikes( Wolfgang Volkrodt : 100 W e- drive sufficient instead 500W+ ) and comercial e-trikes power drive :1 KW - 8 KW ( Renault Twizy) and 15 KW ( VW NILS)

Reading Dr.Wolfgang Volkrodt ( Ex-SIEMENS ) his papers and thinking :his " friction roller" idea + Li Yng Tyan gear- multi-motor transmission + youtube Jusuf Indrawan acceleratortransmission motor consume 30 Wh/25 Km
 less Indrawan transformer savings

and served by e-pedal-generator

VW NILS individual city car concept        1-seater           15 KW nominal electric motor powered
e-shuttle city bus  ( alibaba)                    17-seater           15 KW nominal electric motor poweed ( 5 - 15 KW !)

e-shuttle city bus  + Michel Porquer transmission          15 KW e-motor ~ 4x500 Watt emotor transmission

So only more 2000 W nominal electric motors ,these now winding optimized : 1,5 KWh/100 Km electric consume
An electric shuttle bus has in minimum 8 sqm tect which will become the area for solar cells, actually comercial standart ( unconcentrated) 15 % eff., soon to get 24% (more expensive) and in development ≥ 50% eff. thermionic cells/ nantenna

8sqm x 750 Wpeak ( not 1333 Wp solar constant) x 0,15 ( for the 15%eff. Cell) ~ 900 Wh gain per hour24% eff. ~ 1440 Wh gain per hour; 50% eff.~ 3000 Wh gain per hour
 
Air conditioning( heating,cooling)  : NegaWattsystem

"Riding a" 300 KW+ or 35 KW+ or 3 KW+ drive powered mobile  per individual is in a 30 Km/h traffic velocity controlled city ridiculos,when less than 300 Wh/100 Km per trafficant for this " speed" is needed  !

Individual with Li Yng transmission drive and 25-30 Km/h city  speed : 30 Wh/25 km

Sir Sinclair : C5 to X-1 : why not instead a fixed ( hard top) an inflatable translucent cabin,which saves against wind/ rain/dirt ? Or from " Trockenhaube" to an inflatable overall /suit ?


Denniswilsonmusic : an inventor, also a copter concept : 2 x 6,5 hp engines ~ 2 x ? KW optimized electric drive  ?
 "flying infantery", these copter concept ~ manned drone
 or "flying city- taxi" with less than 10000 € costs per unit


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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 10:25:53 PM »

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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2020, 12:58:39 AM »
What'a wrong with it, IT DOESN'T CHARGE IT SELF you still have to pay the mafia  or get stranded. Come on we can do better than that.

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2020, 02:00:29 AM »
The conventional Ami-electric is equiped with a rated/nominal 6 KW motor,more than enough for 485 Kg + passengers weight + baggage weight and 45 Km-h- max. !

Tuning-kit :       From rated 6 KW
                               
1. to rated 4x 500W = 2 KW     Michel Porquer multi-motor drive
2. to 4x 375 W = 1500 W          motors with double winding optimation
3. to 150 W average demand  reactive power transformer

15000 Km average car driver range per annum :100 Km x150 Wh = 225 KWh x 0,2 €/KWh grid-e = 45 € p.a.
The parking costs in the city will be up to 50x higher ( 0,5 €/ hour) p.a.  than the e-consume 

Free e-car park-garages ? Constructed in Wuhan- hospital construction time velocity  ?
By low photovoltaic energy costs the estates can buy by open bids the demanded capacity cheap and deliver these quantity with a special " green e-charge"-tarife( at night,weekend), for example 5 cts/KWh by pure 1,5-2 cts/KWh pv-e costs  !

All electric and conventional combustion cars will in nearer future equiped with brake- and wheels abrasion dirt absorption devices,lighter cars will have advantages related heavier and overpowered vehicles  !

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 08:40:06 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.handelsblatt.com%2Fauto%2Ftest-technik%2Fneue-e-motoren-generation-nur-zehn-kilo-schwer-und-so-leistungsfaehig-wie-ein-porsche-boxermotor%2F25613336.html


                         220 KW/10 Kg e-motor  = 22 KW/Kg




https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fmobilitaet%2F2017-02%2Ffeinstaub-motoren-luftverschmutzung-reifen-abrieb-bremsen


https://www.mobile.de/magazin/artikel/partikelfilter-fuer-bremsen-und-reifenabrieb-1050

The supplier Mann + Hummel is developing a filter that is supposed to absorb particles that are not generated in the engine. It captures fine dust that arises when braking and rolling. It is not only relevant for combustion engines, but also for electric cars. The problem also applies to them.

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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 08:58:30 PM »
Lanca   is the Ariel that open wheel race car ?
Quote"The ampere motor should experience its first use in a production vehicle in Ariel's Hipercar."end quote
 we need maybe 10-50 HP...300HP not so much ...[[ until we don't need batteries anymore {Like our Spanish experimenter writes above ...[No elec Mafia..."we can do better than that"...
what we really look for here....FE batteries not included..or needed.


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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2020, 09:50:18 PM »
yes "REAL" Hypercar evolved to 300 MPG ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_1-litre_car#2011_model

me too please....
I would take the Renault [city car you shared above] if it had more useful arrangement [tiny Diesel elec]
until Raymundo's or ?? somebodys batteries not included or needed car arrives.

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 10:32:45 PM »
me too please....   :o   Hybrid XL-1  Prices started at €111,000


 a fuel economy of 0.9 l/100 km 260 mpg‑US; 310 mpg




Comparing :



https://rqriley.com/product/urba-electric/


https://rqriley.com/product/trimuter-hp3/

A diesel powered Trimuter HP3, for example, achieves 125 mpg, and more. One of our post-Trimuter designs, the diesel-powered Centurion (a predecessor of the new HP3), recently won the Toyota Green Grand Prix three years in a row, all at over 200 mpg (250 mpg in 2016).


https://rqriley.com/product/xr3-hybrid-plans/


At just 1480 pounds, this high-performance design combines fast acceleration, a maximum speed of 80 mph, and fuel economy of 125- to over 200-mpg. You can set it up as a diesel-powered vehicle and get up to 125 mpg. As a hybrid, fuel economy can excede 200 mpg. And as a pure battery-electric vehicle, it can run 40 to 100 miles on a single charge, depending on the number of batteries.


At the upper end, a duplicate of our Li-Ion-powered prototype will top $25,000. If you switch to lead-acid batteries, you can save as much as $5,000, but you’ll have to forego the performance of advanced batteries.

or in future :


 https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385

When it is utilized in hybrid, the cost of energy storage is merely one third of that of prior art; for instance, replacing the battery pack on present PRIUS of Toyota that is $3000 USD, it only need about $1000 USD


At the bottom end of the scale, a diesel-only vehicle capable of achieving 125-mpg can be built for less than $10,000.





the rqriley XR-3 hybrid version with 2006 applied engine : https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=10760






If hybrid Prototype-replications costs are in the +- 20000 US$ range  ,in mass production 10000 US$ car selling prices are reachable for < 1 lt./100 Km hybrid cars !

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2020, 12:17:55 AM »
https://www.allesauto.at/suzuki-swift-10-gls/


the  gasoline engine   3-Zylinder-Reihe, 993 ccm, 39 kW (53 PS) bei 5700/min, max. Drehmom. 76 Nm bei 3300/min


http://gun-engine.pl/en/suzuki_desc.html


A Suzuki three cylinder 993 ccm engine (see attachment) has been converted into gun-engine technology. The conversion includes: variable compression ratio adjusted "on the fly"; speeding up the energy release from fuel by detonations; preservation of heat that the original Suzuki wastes through cooling system, which is then converted into extra work (extra miles). The convert used (during testing) both: spark ignition and compression heat ignition. The spark ignition was mainly used for breaking (using fuel energy to initiate detonations of fuel in BDC position of crank).

As detonations of fuel yield much higher pressure than original combustion, (14 times higher) the inventor decided to limit fuel supply to10 % of that of the original specification to prevent cylinders from bursting. Nonetheless the power output of the convert was measured 40% higher than max power of the original Suzuki that was fully fueled, thus the fuel consumption of the invented gun-engine was cut in 95 % "by design" and utilization of novelties ranging from preservation of heat by internal cooling, expanding exhausts below atrmospheric pressure, causing meetings beteen highest pressure acting on piston with horizontal crank position and of course convertion of the preserved heat into additional work.

The important is to know that detonations of fuel speed up the energy releases, thus yield much higher power than traditional combustions. It is so because power is defined as energy release in time. While detonation can speed up the energy releases up to 1000 times, the increase of power is in the same proportion, which allows huge cuts of fuel consumption . Even though the inventor did cut fuel consumprtion in 95 %, he believes that 99% fuel consumption cut is possible for large marine engines.

The conversion also boosted torque. The torque boosting is very high as the highest pressure (fourteen times higher than the max pressure in the original Suzuki) meets horizontal position of the crank, which improved torque many times (100 times) above that of the original Suzuki and
that allows to develop a transmission free family vehicles with mileage exceeding 450 mpg. Also the convert produced 11 times more electricity from consumed fuel than the original Suzuki.



The invention was tested with many fuels. The converted Suzuki operated very well on every fuel, but has worked best on Hydrogen and other gaseous fuels that easily explode. All liquid fuels like gasoline, diesel and many alcohols were vaporized and the vapor was premixed with air in explosive proportion. Also the convert worked very well on blends of fuels.
Very precise instrumentations could not detect any traces of NOx or SOx pollutants in emissions, mainly comprising water and CO2. Neither traces of CO were detected. Those clean emissions were also observed when the fuel was intentionally spiked with toxic sulfur compounds. Nonetheless zero sulfur oxides emissions were preserved "by design" that separates these and preserves in water solution that could be treated or disposed safely. No external purification devices or aftertreatment were used.

The energy conversion of the gun-engine technology is so high that the exhaust temperature has never exceeded 140 F degree and that allows making the gun-engine using mould injection Nylon enforced with synthetic fibers, which assures very inexpensive mass production of the invention.


fuel,if not hydrogen  http://judbarovski.blogspot.com/2019/08/novel-power-supply-and-consume-manifesto.html  hydrogen by USD 0.20/kg  :

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2013095190


Co-generation for electric car batteries charging and more




https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=ZA&NR=8203054B&KC=B&FT=D&ND=3&date=19830330&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


Hence, one can say the REACTOR TO TRANSMUTE THE MATTER is an apparatus to produce calories For example, if 2,000 cal (two thousand kilo/calories) is introduced in the REACTOR it will be possible to multiply these calories by 100 (a hundred), 1,000 (a thousand) and even 100,000 (a hundred thousand) according to what it is chosen to be used

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Re: individual car traffic free cities up 2030 !?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 07:56:58 AM »
Lanca Wow
my plate overflows ....

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2020, 11:19:02 AM »
Lanca   is the Ariel that open wheel race car ?
Quote"The ampere motor should experience its first use in a production vehicle in Ariel's Hipercar."end quote
 we need maybe 10-50 HP...300HP not so much ...[[ until we don't need batteries anymore {Like our Spanish experimenter writes above ...[No elec Mafia..."we can do better than that"...


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=16&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1


and


production process :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1



what we really look for here....FE batteries not included..or needed.

more energy re-/capture sources :

in-wheel-generators


self powered air-conditioner
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=IL&NR=177383A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=20160229&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP for hot climate zones


Thus the kinetic energy increases while the thermal energy decreases. If the ratio of a cross section divided inlet 110 cross section is 1/5 that means that the local velocity of the flow is about 5 times greater than the speed of flow 130 entering the inlet 110 and the kinetic energy is 25 times than that of the flow 130. If some of this kinetic energy is extracted from the flow, then the flow temperature will not rise back as it is in a classic convergent-divergent nozzle (the Laval nozzle). Thus we get colder airflow 136 exiting the nozzle, so it can be used as direct cooled air to air-condition spaces and useful energy as electrical energy to power the fan-compressor 120. Further,
surplus energy can be provided to external consumers or converted into mechanical energy to be used in any form including driving vehicles. Example of energy calculation in convergent -divergent nozzle. Assuming the following data: Inlet area=10 FT<2> (diameter of 1.087 Meter) Inlet flow speed=100 FT/Sec Inlet FAN pressure=20 LB/ FT<2>




The Change global will be : electric energy storage with 10000 100% DoD battery or capacitor re-/charge cycles for +- 100 US$ or 0,01 US$/charge cycle


                                       and cheap charger


                      = < b2b electric US price of 5,5 US$cents//KWh possible


                     = < average 10 US$cents/KWh global electricity provider price to private households over the last decades possible





GHG-emission free city drive by electric drive,for free by driver-less e-taxis like Citroen Ami or e-shuttle busses,


 individuals have to let their vehicles outside the city ;  Park&Ride Parcs




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"Mo-Gen Car"-concept


2 front-wheels equipped with high efficient electric motors  and 1 (trike) or 2 back-wheels equipped with generator/-s




Which has to be be each C.O.P.s to reach "autonomous drive" ? Consume < generation ! Plan land ,hill up,hill down ! Faster,slower !




With-/out :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=16&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1


5 KW,0,5 KW,50 W : flexible !

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2021, 04:18:58 AM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Paris-wird-zur-30-Zone-article22671298.html


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Sieben-Grossstaedte-planen-Tempo-30-Projekt-article22665443.html


but :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://go.engage.here.com/Accelerating-Urban-Logistics.html


Speed ​​limit 30 is already a reality in many places -

the average speed on main traffic arteries at peak times is often <20 km / h



https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/37200/umfrage/durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-in-den-15-groessten-staedten-der-welt-2009/


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/




How long the electric drive shall become functional following this order :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.autoplenum.de/forum/d/50321/gibt-es-eine--richtlinie---wieviel-km-fahleistung-mit-einem-b



There is actually a guideline as to how long a vehicle "should" "last":


This is EU guideline 76/756 / EEC, the general building regulations for motor vehicles, according to which a motor vehicle should be designed for 70,000 operating hours.

 ???


 Council Directive 76/756/EEC of 27 July 1976 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the installation of lighting and light-signalling devices on motor vehicles and their trailers

At an average speed of around 40 km / h (in Europe, total service life, all vehicles, all drivers), the average service life is around 270,000 km.


                                                                20 years in average ! ( by the above poster maths)



                         70,000 operating hoursaverage speed of around 40 km / h = 2 800 000 Km service life


                         200 years in real life car use average ! ::)  Now to find the related Council directive !


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.handelsblatt.com/mobilitaet/elektromobilitaet/carsharing-desaster-warum-reines-e-carsharing-ohne-subventionen-chancenlos-ist/27392300.html

But statistically speaking, cars stand idle for a good 23 hours a day in the area. Seen in this way, there are more than 48 million “parking spaces” in  Germany .


That makes neither economic nor ecological sense.


Car sharing providers promise a remedy. Companies like Flinkster, Greenwheels or Miles argue that every car they offer for sharing ideally replaces up to 20 privately owned vehicles.