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Offline stivep

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2020, 08:31:51 PM »
But it was you ,Wesley,who wrote that there is no 'God/god' ,why then should exist a ' Satan/Diabolo/Caetan' ?
I reed some days before that in Jewish religion there is no 'negative/counterforce'  opposition to God

I clearly stated  in my post that:
That  what I write here is not presenting  or standing about my own understanding  of God or any teaching  about god or any religion
It is position of Modern Science ,

I don't discuss
-Religion
-Cinderella,
-Santa Claus,
-The little Mermaid,
-Beauty and the Beast
any true or false  events of these characters   are not important here.

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2020, 08:31:51 PM »

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #121 on: November 18, 2020, 09:00:42 PM »
Fine,because modern science = modern religion

Big Bang up to date trash ,for some treasure

A good night and shalom/salaam/peace/paz/Friede in clinical package
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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2020, 09:23:36 PM »
Fine,because modern science = modern religion

Big Bang up to date trash ,for some treasure

A good night and shalom/salaam/peace/paz/Friede in clinical package
Sincerely
Absolutely wrong  assumption.
Modern science gave you:
-computer and internet 
-vaccine
-a toilet and toilet paper.
and that is your treasure


Modern science is not modern religion
You can analyze reject or accept modern science without any sin or fear that some sort of God doesn't like it.
religion gives you nothing but fear and  hope.
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Big Bang is  just  a model and will be replaced if needed without any repercussions to you.

repercussion: is any unintended consequence occurring some time after an event or action, especially an unwelcome one.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 04:31:18 AM by stivep »

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #123 on: November 18, 2020, 10:21:56 PM »
Your assumption :
the object receives info-data package free of emotions,injective
compared :

com,cum
scire= to know,wissen
scientia = science,Wissenschaft
comscientia = conscious= with,by MORAL RIGHT science
Religion their Alpha mega O in-/e-ducation building :

universitas,Collegium,LyceumUniversitaet,University,Hochschule,High school
Science is mental work = ' ora,Oratorium included studere,Laboratorium/U-/O-ffizien ' : mental dimension is humanities = religion
Universitas ~ partial Talmud ,
the oldest existent University Fes/Fez/Maroc

Wesley,you are listening some potentials from technical in minimum 100 years existent material use kinds

When is by you the definition ' modern' temporary defined ? 12.th century,13.14.15.16.17.18.19.20.th century
Faithless : God is a DJ 

                   yes ,probably,too

                   My GOD, conscience injected, is a 3D creative printer ,but not only     

                  Technical World = applied Religion
                  instead Religion alternatively term  in Germany/BRD: Ethik
                  ergo applied Ethics

                       FEAR ?
                New technology proliferation :
                The Buggles  Video killed the Radiostar
        or                            Video completes the Radiostar
                Visage          Fade to Grey
     
             Video presents Darkspace-Tabu : Trevor Horn = Producer Frankie goes to Hollywood SCANDAL
                                                                                                 and t.a.t.u.   SCANDAL II


          'absolutely wrong' : I accept from you a possible 'assumption wrong' ,each one who comes me with '       
                                                              absolutely/axiomatic'
                 
                                                             
                                  For 'Wesley &Co.' -absolutely-types the honory laudatio
                                                    Monty Python and the Holy Grail   
                                   
                                                                        TAUNTING                                                       
                                                                    french Castellan
       
              We are living 2020 p.C, not more yesterday,not more today,but inter-tomorrow-interstellar





                                      Modern Science and historical scientifical review :
           how was their last election vote from the 6 Mio. in european KZs liquidized  prisoners ?
           How much from DR KZ  prisoners has given their vote the ' absolute/total'-NSDAP ?
                       Politology(inkl.Demoscopy) ,Sociology = science= University fac(h)ulta

                                                            'modern' : no limits ?   
                                   Total Historical UP TO DATE Error search&research ?   

                                                                       Fact !?
Deutsche Juden,als juedische Deutsche  :-* DR als ihre geistige,terrestrische Heimat,                                               
                 
                                                  deshalb mehrheitlich NSDAP gewaehlt !                 
             (daneben Zentrumspartei,USPD,SPD,Kommunisten ,Splittergruppen)                             

               Keine Homogenitaet,DR-Durchnitt = Profil                                  Katholiken,Protestanten ?!

Nur ein kleiner Teil,die wache Intelligentia( Berufs-Ausuebungsverbot)warnte und emigrierte soweit es noch ging !
                                    U.a. Dr.Albert Einstein

                             Grand-parents/parents/brother/-s/sister/-s/sons and daughters                         
                                 Co-perpetrator/'Aristoteles bestia~predator'  or Co-victims ?     

                              Between 1933 and 2020 p.C.,global with typo NSDAP-kind thinking and poitics( open,hidden)                                                                               Nicht/Schuldig !?

Verteidigungs-Neutralitaet ? Dr.Richard von Weizsaecker(als Schueler oertlicher Hitlerjugend-Fuehrer),als junger Jurist,als Anwalt,'Strafverteidiger-Assistent',des Angeklagten am Nuerberger Tribunal fuer WW2-Kriegsverbrechen :                           
                                                 SS-Brigadefuehrer und Staatssekretaer
                                               Ernst von Weizsaecker,Vater des Dr.Richard

                       Befangenheit ? Sohn ? Deutscher ? Hitlerjugend-Fuehrer ? Studiumszeit : ethische Umfeld
                       Un-/Schuldig : IM SINNE der Anklage(-Punkte)  IM SINNE DER VERFASSUNG
                                                                      Allgemeiner Ethik ?


                          hyper-modern science : by 8 Bio. Units not 1,10, but 8 Bio. Presidents/FUEHRER

                                           Heil/Heal W.,YOURSELF  !
Denn : Nie Wieder ! Oder vielleicht doch ? Keine 'ABSOLUTE' Ahnung,aber starke Mutmaszung  ! Everywhere !

Deutsch = tedeschi = rauh,unzivilisiert,grenzenloser Einsatz ( bei Bedarf) : point of view Romanii : bello gallico
Beiszen auch waehrend des Bellens


Enough for today ,peace
Sincerely
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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #124 on: November 19, 2020, 05:13:44 AM »
Your assumption :
the object receives info-data package free of emotions,
That is correct  data and its receiver has no emotions.
Science doesn't recognize  emotions.
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What is (by you)  the meaning  of word :' modern'/ temporary defined ?( edited)
modern      is relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past.
temporary lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.
_____________________
what is the definition of:  ( edited)
ETHICS ?                FEAR ?
ETHICS? :  the branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles
                    ethics is related to behavioral activity of
human animal.
FEAR ?   : an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief .
Modern science doesn't recognize both of these words,

____________________
what is the definition of:  ( edited)
'absolutely wrong'
absolutely = totally
wrong=not correct or true.
Phrase "absolutely wrong" is made from these two words.=/~
~ evocative expression used to describe a chaotic situation in which things turn wrong
 
________________________
Modern Science and historical scientific review : ?
Science in a broad sense existed before the modern era and in many historical civilizations.
Modern science
is distinct in its approach and successful in its results, so it now defines what science is in the strictest sense of the term.

summary: Science doesn't have:
-feeling  (fear doesn't exist)
-morality-ethics
-sins
-punishment
Science is not a religion and has nothing common with religion .
________________________

Your explanation lancaIV is absolutely wrong
Your indicated understanding  of  science vs religion  is absolutely wrong

And you are not listening and not reacting to fundamental requirements of communication:

~90% of your text in English  is "unreadable" to the audience.
~10% can make  any sense to be interpreted.
Please write in  German only, and I will translate it to English if needed.
or use translator.
An automated translation will be likely in 80% correct with your thoughts.


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« Reply #125 on: November 19, 2020, 10:14:10 AM »
Guten Morgen,Wesley ! ich ersehe aus dem Geschriebenem,es geht Ihnen so gut wie sonst ,so unveraendert !

Meine systematische Position ist zu der Ihrigen eine Andere ! Weitlaeufiger !


Bin in eine von  'Moral und Ethik bestimmte Familie' hineingeboren worden und in eine demselben sich 'theoretisch' verpflichteten Gesellschaft !
                                     
                       Erbschuld ! In deutscher Sprache eine soziale Haftung !

             Mittraegerschaft,Mittaeterschaft,unabhaengig gewollt oder ungewollt !
     
            Ein Urteil,mit Bewaehrung !
            Fuer die Gesellschaft insgesamt,Ihrem Dasein !
       
          In einem Zeittribunal fuer Menschenrechte,worauf wuerden Sie,Wesley,fuer Ihre Person,,plaedieren ?
          Bei in Unschuld gewaschenem Verstand : Nicht/ oder Schuldig ? - als Vor-Mensch !
          Wieviel Toeten von 'Menschenhand'( Drone,chemische pharmakologische)Substanzen,....)erlauben Sie Sich !
         Wieviel Korruption der vorgegebenen Werte ersehen Sie Sich fuer erhaltenswert ?

     Obhut,Vormundschaft,Tutor :

        EE ist eine Geistes-Errungenschaft,mit weitreichender Dimension !
       Als neuronales Instrument !

      Gut fuer Unsereins,welcher als waches Glied der Gesellschaft mit jeglicher Art von Extremismus als

      Lebenserfahrung konfrontiert wurde !
     



      NE- als NEURO-TRANSMITTER ( Prioritaet : neben dem Freie Elektrizitaets Umformer )
   

    Von EE zu NE,Neuronale Energy
   
    NE als TUEROEFFNER !
     Nicht mehr fragen muessen,nicht mehr bitten : TUN !
    RU486 : Gegenpart ? 684UR : anstatt Abtreibung schwaengern

    Zell-Bildung und Bildungs-Impuls:    Pflanzenreich,Tierreich,bis hin den Menschen erreichend

     rexresearch : Dotto- DIAMAGNETIC ring: taking/  giving  ?     SPONTANEOUS GENERATION   Flashing
   
                            Lakhovsky MWO  Multiple Wave Oscillator
     For ' society cultivation,civilizing' Neuro-Genese


    Deutsche Sprache : Gedankenschwanger

   Den Kindern ein NE-Instrument zur Verfuegung stellen : Lebenserfahrungs-Lesegeraet
   NE als ' glaeserne Mensch'-MRI,aber auch als neuronaler Influenzer,Vakzine !
   Keine Tabu-Limitierung,keine Verfallsfristen,kein Attest 'unmuendig,deshalb nicht straffaehig'
    Curriculum Vitae- Transparenz,von der Geburt bis zum jeweiligem " - Jetzt !-Zeitpunkt"

   Forschung und Entwicklung ist dafuer schon im 'status quo' : Kombination und globale Proliferation,
    fuer den Translator es einfacher : Pro-life-ration heiszt Verteilung !
   
    Der Translator,welchen Sie,Wesley nutzen werden wird es Ihnen nicht ermoeglichen,die Bandbreite des

    Geschriebenen ( und Kleingedachten) wiedergeben zu koennen !
Mal sehen,so als zufaelliges Beispiel der Deutschen-Spieltrieb-Neurose,bezueglich Sprachwitz ,okay hier schon illuminitiert ,pardonne-moi- professionell ausgebildet ,:

www.ntv.de  Artikel-Thema        Fuer Kinos ist die Pandemie wie ein Horrorfilm  ::)
                      Reaktionaer : Waaaaas,echt ? Nicht gespielt ? ( Lichtspiel-Haus = Kino,Cinema )



                       Wer braucht schon Kino ! Schon seit den 70' Eigenen Lichtspiel-Projektor ( mit Bruder A. gemeinsam)     
                      erworben Beilage : Spielfilm mit O.Hardy und S.Laurel ,gemeinhin bekannt als ' Dick &Doof'
                    [ so is 'er' ( bei verwandtschaftlichem Grade : Kleinschrift) gut beschrieben,bei rein aeusserlicher
                     eingebildeter intelligent-duennhaeutiger Betrachtung,mein Bro. A.]

                   WIR wissen es : subversiv sammna scho !


               Uebersetze Er,Wesley ,dieses ,Obige,nun mal schoen,in sinnierender Reinschrift !     
              Bitte Laut-malerisch,des Deutschen seiner Sprache Pflicht !



    Aber so ist die deutsche Sprache und deren Sprachfuehrer ,sybillisch ! EDEL,sich Zeit gebend,dabei transversiv !
   NE ist EVOLUTION,REVOLUTION und KONTERREVOLUTION

    Ein VERMAECHTNIS,fuer Gutglaeubige,aber Schlechthandler !
   Einige wuerden ES als tickende Zeitbombe betrachten,andere als
   Paradies-Tuerschluessel !
    Kinder lesen Ihre Eltern,diskutieren ueber diese ,beraten,urteilen,exekutieren(ohne/mit Bewaehrung)


    Alle innermenschlichen Archive durchlesen zu koennen ! Ein NE-Scanner,-Reader.
    NE-phone als Schwaengerer: Kindergaerten,Schulen,Altenheime,Krankenhaeuser


   Incendium: den Geburtsimpuls,die Zell-Teilung,schlechte oder gute Geschwulstbildung
   Wie incendiert man ? Phyto-neural ? Synthetische Anti-/Stress-Hormone
   Charles Darwin : Galapagos-Spatzen,Pazifik Clown-Fische : Geschlechtsumwandlung (un-/gewollt)



   Als Zeuge vor dem Zeitgericht : meine Aussage ueber Ihr Sein,ergebend : Schuldig !
   Urteil ? Keine absolute Ahnung.Aber Sippen-Haftung.Amerikanische,in diesem Fall.


   Kennen Sie das literarische Werk : Andorra ? Author Max Frisch

   In deutschem Unterricht : Text-/Sinn-/Gefuehlsanalyse-Schriftwerk,Teil des philologischen Lehrplans

    Sie,Wesley,sind einer von 'Gestern' ,nicht ein 'Morgen' ! 

   Absolut grenzenlos,das haben Wir Alle : im Blut ! Pervers grenzenlos,wenn es noetig ist !

Einen ganzen Kindergarten nicht Gedanken- sondern bio-zellnerisch 'schwaengern',ein Spass,gelle !


                             Flash-mop-Gesellschaft ,ohne 'Heiligen Vater' , Geist-NE-Empfaegnis !

Zuerst die Kinder schlechter Eltern,nach gegenseitiger Kinderberatung !
Kinder schwaengern Eltern,Grosz-Eltern !

Funny NE-games,bei fehlendem Abtreibungsrecht besonders heiter,oh pardonne-me : heikel !

Geht der Opa zum Urologen : Ist es ernst ? Unterleibsbeschwerden.
Arzt : Noeh,wird ein Maedchen,'Ernst' dafuer eher unpassend ! 'Maria' vielleicht ?

Soll der Opa froh sein ,dass es keine Drillinge werden !
Katholische Priester mit NE-Empfaengnis ? SCHLUSS mit der Schein-Heiligkeit !

Forschung : Corona-Viren aehnliche Stress-Pandemien : pro/contra biologische Geschlechtsumwandlung
                      Kalte Krieg Effekt !

                      Erklaeren Wir

                                                1000 Menschen- Jahre Cryo=Supra-Kaelte Krieg ! Invisible Enemy !

                        Ab Heute !  Symbol : klarerweise = das Seepferdchen

  Machen Sie es Sich gut,in Kombination mit schlichter Uebersetzung,so ohne Pretentions-und Intentions-Hintergrund  !

 Achtungsvoll
OCWL
p.s.: so sich in das 'gehobenere Deutsch' einzulesen eine persoenliche Empfehlung :
        Deutsche Stifter-Verband,BILDER DER WISSENSCHAFT

       Dabei geht es Einigen nicht nur 'stiften',sondern auch 'floeten'

      Kann Translator Sitten-Deutsch ,im Gesamtkontext,dem geistes-gesellschaftlichem Ziel ?

     
poste scriptum II :   

 # 106 und 108    das 'Pseudo-Geld(Geld Begriffsherkunft : dialektisch Goeld/Guld/Gold,NL: Guld-en            www.ntv.de US-Wahl Liveticker 2020 ( p.C.) 7:06
            Ueber 'Geld'-Sicherheits-Garantie seit Bretton Woods und 70' IWF-Empfehlung : Garantie-Verzicht
            Geld 1920     'Geld'-Terminierung 2020 ! VWL,Volkswirtschaftslehre

           www.etgladium.de gladium spiritus  10.Gebote als christliche Verfassungs-Vorgabe,
          im Sinne innerer,natu(e)rlicher,Halt der nationalen demokratischen Verfasungen  und U.N.Charta

              Unchristliche Sozialwirtschaft,Zentralbanken organisierter Raub,Diebstahl,Betrug : HOCHVERRAT


              'Kann die EZB Pleite gehen ?'
       
               Madame Lagarde antwortet,so wie es einem an das Nuernberger Nachkriegstribunal-Ritual

               der meisten ( einige wenige mit Rueckgrat: Ja !) Angeklagten erinnert :

                NEIN !'( im Sinne der Anklage/Fragestellers) geantwortet haben !
               Dumpfe Frage verdient dumpf Antwort !



              Als Emittent des imateriellen Design-Symbols EUROS: Nein ! Kuenstlerisches -wertneutrales- Objekt !

               solange genuegend Papier fuer Bonds vorraetig und     
             Muenzpraege-Material sowie 'fuer virtuelle - aber inexistente Konten - e-Coulumbs !

               Als aktiver Intermittent der Wirtschaft,eigenstaendiges Unternehmen mit Profit-Ziel, haftet jeder     
               Mitarbeiter der EZB-Staaten deren Zentralbankensystem eigenverantwortlich
               fuer die rechtliche -verpflichtete- Einloesung = Wechsel offener Forderungen !
               In NATURALIEN,BARTER/Kompensation ,1:1 ,               ohne Verzicht auf vollkommende Gegenleistung,betr. klassische soziale Blutgeld !

               Deutschlands Nachkriegs-Strafmass,bei schwerem Betrug : Haft zu Arbeitslager -Kondition,BGB-Schrift
              BGB : ALLIIERTEN - 100%- Einverstaendnis,also erhaltenswert !
             Bei Administrations-Putsch/-Revolte :  Ultima ratio ' Todesstrafe' :  Artikel des deutschen GG-Regel-Werkes


             EZB : 100% VERFASSUNGSKONFORMITAETS-OBLIGO ! Keine andere Option !     
   
                                                   Rueckbau/Rueckabwicklung !
           Europaeischer Gerichtshof : FUER GELDWESEN -VOLKSRECHTEINMISCHUNG-NICHT KOMPETENT,

                    Geldwesen= ausserstaatlich- bezueglich " ordentlicher' Gerichtsbarkeit ,                   

       

                                                eigene Gerichtbarkeit : Jury Gesamtvolk
                    Misz/Vertrauen-s-Votum : Akzeptanz,Verzicht,Alternativen




                     die eigenen NATIONEN fuer sich SELBST-HAFTUNG-s-orientiert  : JA !

                                   EURO-Nationalisierung ! Exit : EZB-it zu  NZB ,n= national
                     'Die Weber' zu die www-er  : Netzwerk beobachten und kontrollieren




       GOTT IST TOT,Nietzsche,WIR EXISTIEREN (WOHL) NICHT,Oxford Uni Prof.

             Do not worry,be with that situation happy ! Apocalypse Voraus ,(eingebildete zumindest) !

       Wesley,siehe Er mich als ' chronisch ungebildeter und eingebildeter Jude' derselbst auch was von diesem

                          Weltschmerz (so n' biszl Aennchen Clarke unterwandert,soundmaessig)

was abhaben moechte,kein Weltscherz,bin n' echter grotten-scharfer Sado-Masochist geworden !

                                      Welttraenchen vergeuden, a la Peter Ustinov 'Quo vadis'
     

      Alles hat seinen PREIS,auch der FRIEDE,bis hin zum WELTFRIEDEN,nach 1000 Jahren Cryo-Krieg,ab 3020 p.C

              Mi gfreits,so aus MIR-Sicht,so als unbeteiligtes Reichs-Wesen,Zeitlos-Newby
    Hab mich fuer kleine Politik entschieden,die Grosse ist nicht Zukunfts-gerecht: Rosenkrieg inner-,civilian
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Recognition:
the word recognition  means -identification of someone or something or person from previous encounters or knowledge
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I would be happy if you  dear LancaIV understand me.
Everything  you wrote is related to Ethics, Morality and Emotion.
Science doesn't recognize any of that.
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Directionality:
is the word that indicates direction in which someone or something is  moving, or developing .
Guidance :
is an advice or information aimed at resolving a problem or difficulty,
Consistent :
not containing any logical contradictions.

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Directional consistency makes me going precisely to the right  or to the left or straight from  New York to Berlin
without  wasting time  and at minimum effort .
Your entire writing  in any language is made from phrases that are to chaotic  for science to be processed.
And chaotic enough  to confuse not only scientist but  random readers too.
Respect to the elite member like you makes me to respond to your writing but it is not easy task.
I need consistent, organized directional guided 
  information   to be able to respond.
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« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2020, 02:19:59 PM »
Guten Morgen,Wesley ! ich ersehe aus dem Geschriebenem,es geht Ihnen so gut wie sonst ,so unveraendert !
Meine systematische Position ist zu der Ihrigen eine Andere ! Weitlaeufiger !
Bin in eine von  'Moral und Ethik bestimmte Familie' hineingeboren worden und in eine demselben sich 'theoretisch' verpflichteten Gesellschaft ! Erbschuld !
In deutscher Sprache eine soziale Haftung !

translation:
quote: "My systematic position is different to yours !
I was born into a family determined by 'morality and ethics' and introduced into a society committed to the same 'theoretically'!"
end of quote.

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Dear lancaIV
 It is my honor to speak to you .
I understand  this particular phrase of yours and its meaning.

I have similar approach to life but not as strict.
Morality and Ethics:
-is not uniform
-is locally shaped having local flavor.-and is to intuitive
-I'm an American respecting conservative science but at some  point  revolting  to much.
 

However  here  and now I need to be accurate enough  for readers to understand me.
So is you my friend.
and  you are not accurate enough  for readers to understand you.

Wesley

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Ich gab Ihnen ein 'BILD,Kombination und Re-Kombination der sensitiven Ikonography haben Sie,fuer sich Selbst,zu finden !
Jeder hat seinen eigenen Schluessel !
Genug fuer heute
Das Lichtspectrum is nicht mono-chromatisch
Sie aber,Wesley,erscheinen so,fremd-konfiguriert,wenig Eigen-Leben ergebend
Der Friede ist der

Friedens-Pragmatismus
WHO : alle 17 Sekunden ein Corona-Toter in Europa   wenig/viel ?
A.Europa !?    E.U.
Nur E.U. 2018 : 5,31 Mio. Tote
                            365,25 x 24 x 60 x 60 = 1 Jahr = 31.557.600 Sekunden /5.310.000 Tote     
 WHO : alle 6 Sekunden in E.U. 2018 ein Toter /  In Europa die Sekundenzahl ?
     

                   WORAN ? Unbedeutend,interessiert keine Sau wirklich ,wohl meistens am Tod = Toten-Schein
                    Obduktion kaum vorhanden !
                           




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Good Morning,Wesley,with the hope you are well( how ever) !


Clearly,I understand what you are ' speaking ',in written words and in not written meanings !
                    Monovalence,bivalence,tri-,....multivalence included !

You wrote it,the right TERM,about it : value !
Conversation,also called communication,in function import and export from images and they 'nomination'-s/given name /-s !

Example : oriental and the counterpart occidental : we use orient-ation,how many ' occident-ation ' ?
                       Or west-ing and east-ing !                     

                        But then ,not also : northing and southing ? Middling ? Mittlings,in deutsch existent !

                                    SPEAK-LANGUAGE-DESIGN ! But grammatical order respectance !

                                    Orthography ! How much freedom ? Explanation kind freedom !

            By grammar and logic both right and same worth to exist ! Or not ?

Communication is creation,in religion creators are defined as 'God'-s !
So you,in creation,as God,are with me,also in creativity,ergo God-same !
But : Avaliation ! God - heavens hirarchy : not 'God-Father ! ( Gracian Heaven Mythology )
GOD,God,god,Sigmund Freud: ES ~ simple translation : IT


You and me,we did not created the Earth ,not the planets,nor the sun,galaxy,Universum !
                                 Term and his use ' inflation/saecularisation'
God  of Soul,God of Literature .......,as popular example for the Art and for example in 'Jew'-ish religion/philosophy
the non-directly-spoken meaning 'EL',(-ohim) or J.A.H.W.E.,to no provoke,making 'IT ' angry !
     Ethical sub-/supra-frontier line, not to enter,Tabu or Taboo : BORDER line,ATTENTION !

Un-formal ~ a-typical question :
I know
 it has to written in such a lettric(or: litric,litera) kind,
can we historical define since when- by differing English and Anglistik,like Deutsch and Germanistik,
it was fixed ' as 'term ~ word ' and the word his Phonetics

(I) know,to know

in latin to translate 100%? 50%? ≤ 50% ?
infinitive ' cogere,or cognoscere or credere or scire '
The right word for the right 3/4D mental meaning,the right mental sense/feeling('s) !?


I know as given 2020 in use deutsches word : infinitive verb(e) : essen ~ to eat
 Verb(-e)  to eat ! ?       to EAT !?   


ESSEN,Essen,City in Nordrhein-West-Falen/west part Land from the deutsche Konfederation
also called the 'BUND'  !

But for ' language historians' in re-/search : ESSEN,Essen has nothing to do with to EAT,to eat !


First problem for 'automatic translator' for right meaning 'over-bording' in another ' lingual dimension = speak/Sprache,language !

 Science does not retreat religion/philosophy ? As individual human : yes,taken for granted


In my Welt-Bild

babies are born,are growing,becoming pupils,students,adultsthis beginning with grand-/parents their life religion philosophy,school,high school,universities,acadamies,up to moment to be invited as   

   National  Academy of Science members ,teaching the Profs and teachers new discoveries methods

A scientist is a man,woman or transgender,a person with fixed/flexible religion/philosophy stand-points which ever by humanity influences science results or no !? - yes ! - publication/patenting decision !

We have to complete : the controle by the estate/-s of no/patenting things/processes/methods whose are against tactical/strategical/economical/humanity (Charta) interests ! BR Deutschl. Patent office : Buero 99 aval !

 About the USE from scientifical re-/search their developments : there you are right !


Science,scientifical :    from absolutistic view without sense/feel,emotion,balance

  Treat : Nuernberg ,Voelkerrecht,Voelkerstrafgericht
Accused :  Ernst von Weizsaecker

Delikt : Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit ,Deportations-Hauptverantwortung ,min. 70.000

Strafmasz  nach Verurteilung : 7 Jahre
7 Jahre x 365,25 Tage x 24 Stunden ~ 61.362 Stunden    ~ 1h/Deportierter,nach Ausschwitz

                                                   JUSTICE ?  Compensation ?

                  2020 DenHague Menschengerichtshof ' benchmark' (?):


               






                                                                   1h/Mord = Suehnestrafmasz ?









            Aktiver Mord / Passiver Mord = ermorden lassen,vorsaetzlich ,Auftrag




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                    About Ethics

        Bivalence : war for peace

                                                               but : not war the target,but peace !

                Aggressor -/Regressor war ?
                                                                   ' this was ancient Our land  !' ?                                           

                                                                   ' You are aggreding Our (minority) people ,in our land majority !' ?




                                                                     A War-rior     his ' dignity'

                                                      Philosophy view  change from   


                                                     OLD STANDART

             Common,Europe Continental                 ' Hero'                       Westfaelische Landfriede,post 1648                                                           
                                                      NEW STANDART

             Common,Global to                                     'Criminal/Killer'    ' International Nuernberger Tribunal '

          In-land,inner-state,war :    criminals,killers

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Science : in Deutsch( deutscher HOCH-Sprache,differing from NIEDER-Deutsch = the dialects )

                Wissenschaften

Search,Research :

               Forschung ( suchen,procurare )



Development ( the findings,the results,the Anti-/Paren-/Hypo- Thesis as answer,or new question)

              Erfindung,Entwicklung,In-nova-tion


New in Deutsch : Neu ( Neu-Stadt = NewTown)

Phonetics : 'neu'  written ,'noi' spoken,
                     but by contexte attention , cause ' Noi ,noi' means slso ,' NO,No,no ! '


UNDERSTANDING the individual word,the word as function in the sentence,the sentence in the Con-Texte !
Also this the ' automatic translator' has notthe given ' program-m-ed,integated success/error giving KNOWLEDGE :                                                                  SEMANTIK
What does this functional means : by a 1920 Enzyklopaed/Lex-Ikon/scientifical dictionary ,1950,1990,
                            2020 p.C e-Enzyklpaed like ' wikipedia' ?
Only in words,explaining with images,pictures,photography,video-/audio-film ?



                                           Cerebro,Gehirn,Brain :
                                function fe-/male orientation            THINKINK ? from left to right or right to left like WRITING
           THINKING about the image,object-image/image-object,the creation/production,the form,
                               the production process,the material,the explore,the plan/scheme
                              the MOTIVATION ,the VOTIVATION ~ just do it = Change !

No, I do not believe that this is 'automatic translator' incorporated ,giving the MACHINE the same SENSE as
we,as humans (can) have/give !
The DAVID-STAR,the MENORAH,the KRE(t)Z,the KRAN(t)Z,the CRUISE = SYMBOL = Motive and Votive

                                                           

                                                              I believe,to think to know !

                                                           Credere,Scire,Sentire,Estimare
                                                                    Mimikry = Simulare !?
                                                            Temptation : Mockage !? Trial ?
               


Thora,Bible,Coran                        to EE-Bible entry : Physics Enzyklopaedie  !

                                                                                ORIGINAL ( work,script and language)
                                                 ' Original' - translation : ORIGINARY
                                    Language re-/new formation : meaning before/after ?  SIN(N in DEUTSCH)
                                   Physics :

                                  how many re-formation since Euklid,G.Galilei,Isaak Newton,Maxwell,Einstein   
                                   the SYSTEM configuration and new INTERPRETATION/DEFINITION !?
                                  How many TRANSLATION errors ?




                                 Lisl Meitner to Otto Hahn : " Das verstehst du nicht,das ist Physik !"

                         Does a later Nobel-Award for Chemistry granted 'scientist' not need to understand
                                ? ' natural' ' Academy of Sciences'-Physics ?

                                   

                                                            Phrases,Formulas ,Article,Paragraph

                                                         Observation ! Same - similar - different


                             Physics : written,phonetics subjective = by us and objective = ' I ,the formula speaks : "........!/?"

                             CHANGING POSITIOINS and POINT OF VIEW = discussing INTER-PRET-ATION

                             Pret-a-Porte  pret ~ step ~ Stufe                 maximum down - minimum up
                            First class - to- 12.class = 12 steps in education years ~ 24 semesters ~ 144 months ( theo.)

                            eventual + later University ( up to 12 semesters more : ius,medicin) ( + 'Doctor'-at : 2 years) +++

                          Whow : scientists with         Dr.rer.nat,Dr.phil.,Dr.jur. IN-ONE NAME as TITLE,for good ? For bad ?


                          docere , Dr. ........ ,PhD Doctor in ? = Teach-quality-Aval for that faculta/Fach/Study section

          Working with and by individuals,groups,society common knowledge ,giving references: source /archive
          Working documentary,we never know if or when we need to defend ourselves by legal accusation process !


So,Wesley,in my worde and thinkings + meaning : Anglistik + Germanistik animateur view-point



'The difference from our view-points' shown between your believe and my,with someones same,similar,but also diametral different !
                                                  Vixierbild ~ picture puzzle 'automatic translator' response
                 
                                                  Yin&Yang : picture puzzle ? 

Sensitive doubts that from 100 un-/educated humans,pleased to give to the ABSTRACT term ' picture puzzle' their image will be
                         
                                printed,drawed,showed as : Yin&Yang

       The most shown 'picture puzzle/Vixierbild' symbol : the Pokal(the Poke),the Cup :

                                        black-white SENSE vixier-/CONCENTRATION difference

                     2-d ~ cup       or   2-d        2 humans their faces,in face-to-face POSITION

                           Psychology 'sense re-/search'  Luescher color-teste

    I hope ' you understand' my over-and under-stand positioning of things and matters

To ENTER in books,movies or in Person their Minds is ever ENTERING IN TERRA INCOGNITA
Border-line,physical : classical mechanice  Physics versus new Physics  = Quanten-Mechanics
In comparison diametral~ inverse  results possible,maximation or diminuation also as neutralisation !


Communication can ever be/in  to the wrong place,wrong moment and by wrong objects =intentions

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Have a good day

Sincerely
             

p.s.: to AlienGrey : I do not ' flies picking', it has something to do with the funny shout from a London 'HOUSE':     
                                 ORDER ! ORDER ! + the Bell

                                 + ( the right/obligation  to advice/warn/punish stupid delegates by given rules )             
                                 
                                 After beatnicks,Punks,Hippies,Rockers : 80' the New Wave,Y.U.P.P.I.E.
                                 ABC of Love and a ' STYLE COUNCIL'

                                 Inside Yuppy and outside Yuppie ?

                                 Inside Yuppie and outside Punk ?
                                 Inside Punk and outside Punk ?
                                 Inside Punk and outside Yuppie ?
                                X in-house= private ,out-house = public
                     
                                Punk !? Official ' so is a Punk '( trademark TM ,International Society Normation,I.S.N.
                                Yuppie !? Offcial ' so is a Yuppie' ( trademark TM ,International Society Normation,I.S.N.
                                '  No,we Punk 'concurrence ?

                                   'No,we R Yuppie 'concurrence ?
                             
                                  Out-In-Sider :

                                   'Yes,I am YUPPIE-PUNKY-FLIPPY'
     
                   
                                FLIPPY  :o DIE UNHEIMLICHE BEGEGNUNG DER DRITTEN ART (Steven Spielberg) 8)       
                                Aeh, not to get it to the wrong neck   : shrek-lich good movie-Fan(fare : not ;D )

                               Conservator/Arch-i-va-tor/Bem-Feitor
       




                               AlienGrey,What is Love,Baby,don't hurt me,don't hurt - anymore ;) Stylish answer  ::) ?
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                              Faculta,clearly classical 7.seals or by the most important Siglium : the Eight,der ACHT

                             An-Alphabets mostly their use the 8.,24/365 ,    OB-SERVATION
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Das 'Martin Luther-Syndrom': Ich bringe Euch den seelischen Frieden,welcher bedeutet Krieg

Die Glaeubigen lebten vor der Bibel-Uebersetzung in deren Alltagssprache in einem 'Weg zum Paradies',mit der 'sprachlichen Offenbarung' erschien Ihnen Religion als (Be-)Trugschluss,Hoch-Verrat !

Die Macht der Kirche Roms war tot !
Religions-/Gesellschaftsspaltung die Folge !
Krieg,30 Jahre !Neue europaeische Kontinentalordnung,neue Allianzen,Beistandsvertraege,Pakte=Abmachungen !
Amerika,Australien,Suedamerika : das neue ' Moderne Europa' der Aus-/Emigranten,Ein-/Imigranten

Migrantismus : Wanderzug (Ameisen-/Termiten-/Ratten-/Voegel-/Menschen),Besiedlung/Ghettoisierung


Was 'heiszt/heisst' Sprache fuer den 'Einjeden',wie ist diese individuell zu verstehen,soll verstanden werden ?
Herder Lexikon : Jesus Christus Juden-Sektierung,als Reformation,eine - kommon-/kommu-nistische Gruppe


Die globale (kaum praktisch erreichbare)Praemisse theokratischen

       Sozialismus-                     Komm-u/-o-/nismus-     Demokratie
ausgeschrieben als PRAEAMBEL des DEUTSCHEN VERFASSUNGSWERKES  :

                                           ALLE MENSCHEN SIND GLEICH

Aber : theokratisch-juristisch,
nicht biologisch alltaeglich und zuerst nur Teil der geopolitischen Ordnung :       

                                       in der BR DEUTSCHLAND gueltig

WIR SIND MENSCHEN,keine 24/365 Arbeitsmaschinen,ohne 24/365 VERFASUNGSKONFORMITAET

NEIN,wir sind nicht 'Animals',wir sind KOERPER mit ANIMA,dieser aber mit 'animalischen -Zyklus-Trieben ausgestattet,mit HOCHs und TIEFS,Euphorien und Hysterien,den LAUNEN,DIE UN-/LUST

OHNE ORDNUNG : BESTIA,-lisch : ZERSTOERUNG

                     IST DEMOKRATIE ?                               DEMOKRATIE IST :

SOZIALISMUS,oder mit anderem WORT,bei gleicher DEUTUNG,KOMMUNIMUS/KOMMONISMUS



                                                    ALLE MENSCHEN SIND GLEICH   

  :  VOR DEN (verbundenen) AUGEN DER ( Goettin) JUSTITIA SIND ALLE ANGEKLAGTEN( Menschen) GLEICH

SOZIAL-RECHT HOCH-SPRACHE ( INSTANZ : VERFASSUNGSGEBENDE KOMMISSION ) in HOCH-DEUTSCH


GROSS-gedacht ,mit VIELEM,nicht erwahntem 'viel und beigeordnetem,zugeordnetem,untergeordnetem
                                                                  Kleingedrucktem
Philosophie-/Philologie-/Juristen HOCHSPRACHE,ausgedrueckt mit und ueber rethorische/reitorische Hilfsmittel

MYSTERIUM und LABYRINTH fuer AUSSENSTEHENDE,   

( insbesonders Alphabet ' automatic translator' und Gesellschaftswissenschaftler,welche sich " an Altem" herhalten)


                                                               FACH- GEBIETSFREMDE
GEBIET : Land namens "HISTORIE", Land namens "Philosophie",Land namens "Justitia",Land namens ' MORGEN'

                                                 NEULAND,terra incognita und ' novo mundo'

                                                    EINTRITTS- CHANCE,EINTRITTSRISIKO
                                                         GEMEINSAMKEITEN,TRENNENDES

PRAEAMBEL "ALLE .... GLEICH"      im ALLTAG :

Ein Mann : ist eine Frau   

Ein Alter : ist ein Junger
Ein Saeufer ist : ein Nicht-Saeufer
Ein Idiot : ist ein Nicht-Idiot

Ein Unschuldiger : ist ein Schuldiger

Theokratisch-rechtlich : in dubio = Zweifelsbehaftung/VERDACHT

                                            pro reo = den Indizien/Beweise /Fakten/Zeugen
                                                           GLAUBEN SCHENKEN
 ,abwaegen, urteilen,verurteilen und Urteilsspruch,begruendet,exekutieren beziehungsweise ,da Fristbestand,

                                           Urteils-Einspruch/Widerspruch einlegen = INSTANZENWEG

                So wahr Gott (~ Gut-Glaube)dem Amtsrichter und - bis hin - Verfassungsgericht-Senat helfe !

Wenn nicht glaub-wuerdig,der Gerichtsspruch die Begruendungskraft ,dann spricht-wie wir es gewohnt sind-

                                                   
                                          VOLKES ( einem jeden GERECHTIGKEIT ! - Ruf !)  STIMME ,Aufruhr/Revolte

                                          "Falsche ( ,bezahlte,korrupte)  Justitia'  -LYNCHJUSTIZ


DER STAAT  -  ist - eigentlich ;) - recht 8) simplex  ;D strukturiert,komplex bloss DER LANGE TAG !

TAG im Sinne der theokratischen "Paradies-Geschichte'

 ' Am ersten TAG erschuf ....,am Siebten TAGE ' :
 Bis zu 1 Mrd.Jahre ~ 1 TAG ( Agrar-Sektor : ein Tagwerk in qm- Arbeitsleistung ,Grundgroesse:ein Morgen,in qm)

Am ACHTEN : FEIERABEND,'lux off,

Eine gute Nacht

Adele


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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #131 on: November 21, 2020, 06:07:49 AM »
Dear lankaIV I don't talk  religion.
I don't implement religious factors into any other subject.
The only moment when I'm mentioning religion is when  I need it to be mentioned
for the consistency of conversation.
I love philosophy but we can't  have precise pinpointed  debate  due to language  problem
Your writing  although  now  much better to understand is taking pieces of information
from different  fields and creating mosaic.
I need to respond  to logical structure  precise and concise and up to the point.
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Language is giving us a tool to dance and tool to  create.
I'm not a dancer and not an artist.
I'm logical creature.
Wesley
 

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #132 on: November 21, 2020, 12:05:49 PM »
Hallo,einen schoenen guten Morgen,Wesley !

"Boh ey " - entspricht dem gelaeuferigem  "  WOW !" ,Ihr OUTING brachte mich fast aus der (VER-)FASSUNG,
meinem virtuellem Korsett !

Dass Sie einen nicht verstehen,mag nicht neu sein,Ihre Beitraege partiell lesend !
Und wie Sie glauben '(ver-)urteilen zu koennen duerfen !?

         EIN ANALOGON ~ BABYLON BERLIN
        ( nice as vid -theme Zu Asche und zu Staub,not only Josephine liked Banana,I ,too,during and out of dance
        dance ~ orare ~ fit-(t)ing ~ Lifeerotics

Lehrer ,auch Schultz,Schultheitz/Professor ueber die Zeiten genannt,zu seiner Abschlussklasse :
"Petra,nun mit dem Abschluss in der Hand,was wollen Sie werden ?"

:Petra: " Krankenschwester bei den Ursulininen,Herr Lehrer !"
Lehrer : "Ein wirklich wichtiger und nuetzlicher Beruf,eine gute Entscheidung !

Lehrer zu Karl-Wilhelm :"Und was ist Ihnen beschienen ,Karl-Wilhelm ?"
Karl Wilhelm : "Ich gehe zum Militaer !"
Lehrer : " Eine gross-artige Entscheidung,Unser all Vaterland zu verteidigen !"

Nun,nach der Runde,kam zuletzt Schueler "ICH" an die Reihe,Lehrer nach all den Berufswuenschen,sittlich ehrbar und korrekt

"Schueler ICH,und Sie ?"

Schueler ICH : Ich moechte ENTART werden,Neuland betreten und Unser Mutterland beschuetzen !"
Lehrer : "Man hat es vernommen ,recht modern !"

Lehrer,zum Abschlusz der Abschluszklasse :

"Zu den kommenden " neuen Zeiten : Viel Glueck auf dem Ihrigem Wege,der HERR stehe IHNEN BEI !SIE sind nun frei !"

Alle gehen aus dem Klassenraum,bis auf den Lehrer und "ICH" !
Lehrer,Vater von "ICH" : Muszte Er Mich vor der ganzen Klasse bloszstellen ?"


ICH ,zur Antwort :   



Wesley,I LOVE PHILOSOPHY ( koennte auf einem Grabstein eingemeiszelt stehen) ,welche "ICH"- Antwort geben

Sie diesem Ex-Pen(n)aeler ?
'BABYLON BERLIN'-Zeitmasz,Ordnung muss sein !

Zeitlich und inhaltlich zwischen  :

Die Feuerzangenbowle( Genre:Komoedie,mit Heinz Ruehmann)
                                      und   

              " Die Klasse von 1984"(Genre:Thriller,mit Michael (ups,Edit :Fix ) clearly M.Fox
             ( puh,fast ein Fehler,zurueck zur Zukunft)

( + Pst,nur fuer ganz intime Insider : Schul-Maedchen-Report" ( Was Eltern nicht fuer moeglich halten  8) )
Da wird es einem feucht,um die Augen ! (Restbereich Privatsache  ;D )
Zum Glueck "Schulmaedchen-Report II.Teil" ,....,VIII,..........

WIR LEBEN DAS LEBEN UND DEN SPASS,Geschmaecklecker

 Entartete Kunst ~ entkuenstelte Kunst ~ entartete ARS ~ REALIST,Konkretivist,Konstructivismus




I love Science-Kunst und Religions-Kunst und Philosophie-Kunst,too

Unter-Arten der "Hohen Lebens-Kunst" ,mit "SCHOEN-GEIST" und "OBSCENE/OBSZOEN- GEIST"




Auch die FE machine ist Kunst als und AM Werk,angewandt or applied

Die macht Es nicht mit Jedem,zu billig

WORT ZUM SAMSTAG,hier SABADO,irgendwie bekannt erscheinend ueber-confessionell betrachtet

Habe Er ein ,weiterhin ,schoenen Tag    (Nieder-Klaessler schreiben anstatt "ein" :  " einen" )


Sprach-Zauberei ,'Wesley in Wonderland'


Adeus

p.s.: I(ch) mag Filo-sofia auch     
        Wir so,als Schueler ,muessen bei der literarischen Alt-sowie futuristischen Neu-Zeit-Reise hoellisch
        aufpassen,beim Aufschnappen nicht 'ueber einen spitzen Stein zu stolpern' denn sonst kann es sein
       dass das Betrachtete 'in den falschen Schlund geraet' ,sollte es sich dabei um ein ' goldenes Kalb' handeln
     wird es ueber die Zeit ein ' grossartiges ' er-?/ent-? wachsenes goldenes ? goldiges ? Rindvieh" ,
    wobei hier das Geschlecht zur Disposition steht,welches vielleicht

    nehmen wir hier  nun mal dessen Art-Genossen-Pendant-Analogon

     " Ein Rindvieh im Porzelan-Laden' verhaelt/verhalten moege-mag


     noch grausamer : ' Ein Rindvieh im Porzelan-Museum,Chinesische Ming-Dynastie"

      Kunst ist wie das Leben so zerbreclich


     Halte man sich an ein - simples/ordinaeres/reales- Kalb :
     Dieses will nur Vakzine = Muttermilch Mutterwaerme

    und die Welt entdecken





    Kalb ,bei erster Neu-Welt-Reise : Ich bin 'Muh',wer bist du ?
    Man nennt mich ' Maeh ! Du Schaf ! kam es von einem bisher unbekanntem Wesen    dem Kalb zur Antwort zurueck


    Kalb,gedankenschwanger,geht zur Kalbs-Mutter und fragt :
" Muh-Muh(=Mutter) ,ist ' ein Schaf' was gutes oder was schlechtes ?

Muh-Muh : "Geh zu deinem Puh-Puh,( = Vater) ,fuer Aussendienst kann nur er helfen !
                    Ich weisz von Nix und habe keine Ahnung !"



Wesley + google&Cie. Automatic Translator/-s in WONDERLAND  ;) :) ( feat. BIG COUTRY ) 8)
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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #133 on: November 21, 2020, 04:18:50 PM »
Lanka IV
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you don't understand one may not be new, your supplement partial reading !
And how do you think '(ver-)judgment sit down !?

Lanka IV
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I love Science Art and Religious Art and Philosophy Art,too
Lanka IV
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The FE machine is also art

the rest of your writing  I'm omitting.


My writing here is not about religion but about philosophical
analysis  of particular mammal - the human animal behavior after this animal was introduced to any religion .
I'm also not talking or referring to my own personal approach  into  this particular  subject.

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If you want me to respond to any text  I need to have link for it.
As I said I have  limited time to respond to any forum ~20 minutes in the morning and ~30 minutes in the evening.
This time can be divided into smaller  segments during a day  but cant go beyond the total daily time for posting.
I respect your love to art and I agree that FE is an art .
but I'm operating in limited area of an art.

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Religion is not  an art nor is  a skill  it is just believe.
Religious arts in  its physical form  has nothing to do with religion , it has to do  only
with money spend for the purpose of comfort of leading  human elements in within that given group of interest, making you spend and
believe that you could  lose much more  if you didn't do so.
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Church as a building and   personal  elements connected to  given religion  is money spend and money earned
and yes it has artistic value to someone but mostly emotional.
However ruling motivation to its  creation was comfort of priests  teaching   the  crowd
about need  of such elements.
After  that crowd  is brain-prepared/ often brainwashed:
- So the Priests are not much in fear of losing  source of income
- artists can make some money too.
- construction guys makes living
- traders makes deals
- and apart form money spend it is also the time spend for that dedication  making believers more involved  or more indoctrinated.
The    physical value of that outcome is less than zero.
The expected  value  of FE is  totally opposite , as we want it to be more  than zero and at zero  cost to us.

there is ever-present Fear that even a slightest attempt to calculate balance of  gain and losses may disturb some
of  god or gods, and  disappointment of god/s may in effect  be very unpleasant to the  given human animal.

So FEAR  is the  main element of  any religion.

God is seen by believers  as Self oriented/ king having unrestricted freedom of acting
and any horror on the earth may be  assigned as -an affect of God/s personal disappointment.

The time of good God miracles exists  only in written form of old times..
Believers expects:
-  end of the life , the god final punishment.
-  your own wealth  and comfort  on the earth will be replaced with something else  by force.
-  nobody is going to ask you  how much you dislike such reality.




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« Reply #134 on: November 21, 2020, 05:37:42 PM »
At first,for probably wrong mind correction :
I do not belong to one religion group or section,also not Scientology.
Okay,over my parents their confession and 'theoretical' believe I got baptizised as cristian,but leave the
romano-catholic church community1987,in Germany possible as administrative act !

I am not party communist,neither capitalist ,nor fundamentalist : where is fixed when onebody becomes one or another ?

In my life I only voted one time for political election,Munich,my vote : Humanistische Partei by name !
I did not read their program,left or right parlamentiary political orientation,did/do not know +- 1985/86 neither 2020 !
You want understand "applied philosophy"(from my method) :

look for "Schul-Maedchen-Report",I,II,III,.....  more or less 50 years back ,THE 70',,and "Era of se.x Enlightment"
-related~ Woody Allen ,deutscher Title " Was Sie schon immer ueber  Se.x wissen  wollten,aber bisher nie zu fragen wagten",1972,Comedy


                         Rollenspiel : Schulmaedchen-Report

1.hear in deutscher Sprache/translate this to one for you common language without picture/movie-pictures
2.look the pictures/movie-film without sound/tone as 2020 audient

3. take the language version and " make your own movie" IMAGINATION

4. take the picture/movie version and "make your own movie" 1000 WORDS

Will you this personal OEUVRE present your family: grand-( if living)/parents-(if living)/ childs,.....,your neighbours your local community ?

Why not,which barrier ? Schweinematz,Ferkel,.......? Index !? 197+ social enlightment movies ?
    CENSOR : own,by common view ,'Mr.Common ? Who is it,this Dictator ?'

Fellini ? Serious ? Guareschi ' Don Camillo und Peppone' serious ?

t.a.t.u. all the things she ( he ? Trevor Horn?) said

Are we actionary or reactionary,2020 social view ? ARE WE FREE .


Freedom only for some,not for all ?

Anti-baby-pill for woman !

The existent anti-baby-pill for man,with same contraception like the pill in woman biologic cycle ?

Stress and Darwin : Darwinfinken and Clownfish gender change !

Social gender change by pharmacology ?

What is,phyto-chemical/-biological view analysis, "stress" : stress by 'anti- instruments',medical weapons,
like anti-biotics,for our gladness for free in drink water and meal to refind ! Fridge-pharmacy !
Do you feel ill eat 'veal fil(l)et,all the Best included !

It changes much ! Fried(en) Chicken alternatively.






Enough now as finishing "Wort zum Samstag" !

And no,there is for both of us not the possibility to compact themes transform as final question :

Do you agree ?   " Yes ! or " no !" ?

Yes,no are ' moment' dependent ! And only moment-answer !



Servus
p.s.: 2020 : Schul-Jungen-Report ? I,II,....... X,,....... C,.........

       2020 : Parlament-Maedchen/Junge-Report
      2020 : Wirtschaft-Maedchen/Junge-Report

p.s. II: Sie,Wesley, koennen entscheiden als Babylon-Berlin-'Lehrer' oder als Babylon Berlin-'ICH' zu agieren
           Leben als Kreation,weniger als Kreatur
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