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Author Topic: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board  (Read 59205 times)

Offline seychelles

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #285 on: September 16, 2021, 05:04:48 PM »
THE BEST PLACE TO CONDUCT THIS EXPERIMENT WILL BE ON THE OCEAN.
THE REASON BEING THAT THE SEA WATER WILL BE A VERY GOOD GROUND
PLANE, THE SEA BEING VERY CONDUCTIVE. ALSO WILL BE IDEAL TO TRANSFER POWER FROM EITHER WIND
OR SEA CURRENT GENERATOR TO LAND BASES.


« Last Edit: September 16, 2021, 07:11:37 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #286 on: September 23, 2021, 05:00:59 PM »
floor,it was my reaction to seychelles his poste objective content and the topic relationship : wireless transmission !


THE BEST PLACE TO CONDUCT THIS EXPERIMENT WILL BE ON THE OCEAN.
THE REASON BEING THAT THE SEA WATER WILL BE A VERY GOOD GROUND
PLANE, THE SEA BEING VERY CONDUCTIVE. ALSO WILL BE IDEAL TO TRANSFER POWER FROM EITHER WIND
OR SEA CURRENT GENERATOR TO LAND BASES.




I read from this : off-shore wind-/water-and solar-parcs !And this all in "surplus-plastics", ecologic resistance ? polymere as material !

With wireless transmission,without low distance power pole and much lower transmission losts, today far away sources can become quasi "next door" reachable !
Taking the Earth round-sphere-same so is the maximal distance directly ever 40 000 Km .
The transmission velocity ? When c- light-velocity - in vacuuo-
 then 40 000 Km/299 800  Km  =     0,13 clock-second      1 total Earth-surrounding

I hope the links were not the wireless transmission target disturbing !




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« Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 07:02:18 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #287 on: September 23, 2021, 09:57:32 PM »
I will soon continue with  detailed  manual and explanation of  the most critical  aspect of technology ,
I have OK to:
point 1. -reveal ~ 99%      about  energy transfer from A to B.
point 2. - most but not all  about 
extraction of energy from Schumann waveguide

Note:
both techniques use exactly the same means of  energy transfer.
the difference is  that  point 2.  is made from receiver only, - receiving energy in form  of electromagnetic wave from natural
Tx. ( well..to be accurate - the energy that  naturally landed  in exactly the same interface as in point 1. 

After  I finish the entire  paragraph feel free to challenge - "scrutinize" me  the best you  can.
I'll be surprised  if you'll find anything just anything that doesn't  work with   physics and it's models.
Russians get your  entire  barely walking   elderly academy of Russian science together  to find weak spots of it... I wish you luck

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« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 02:13:34 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #287 on: September 23, 2021, 09:57:32 PM »
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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #288 on: October 03, 2021, 09:26:50 PM »
This is the answer part H of  point 3
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560251/#msg560251
Preparing electromagnetic wave to travel in waveguide - its special form the INTERFACE:



POLARIZATION

we continuing with  explaining polarization


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We need to make sure that  we understand  the two phenomena present in our study:
1. Polarization of an antenna
2.
Polarization of the wave

add1:

Polarization of an antenna  for our application must be vertical.
It means position of an antenna against the  horizontal earth
must be vertical.
Earth along with air above   makes our  waveguide - the INTERFACE.

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Definition: Antenna Polarization is the term used in correspondence with the electromagnetic wave radiated through it.
It is defined as the orientation of the electric field vector of the radiated electromagnetic wave by the antenna with a negligible amount of losses.
https://electronicsdesk.com/antenna-polarization.

add2.

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polarization  of the wave is defined as the special property of electromagnetic waves that provides a specific relation between
the time-varying direction and magnitude of the vibrating electric field.
More simply, it can be said that polarization represents how the electromagnetic waves are physically oriented in space.
polarization is always explained with reference to the electric vector.
and electric field has its vector called  electric vector.
Due to this reason; we define the plane of polarization of the (radio waves- means ) electromagnetic waves  in the direction of the electric vector.
Another words  we can draw plane along direction of electric vector to  see it more easily in space around us. 

So vertical polarization of an antenna  makes  wave vertical electric field  prepared  to  our application.
We mentioned electric field only however
electromagnetic wave has both electric and magnetic field component ( each with is its own  vector)
The electric and magnetic vector are mutually perpendicular to the direction of wave propagation.
The  electric and the magnetic field (  are at 90 degrees to each other)
Electric field vector  vibrates in the direction perpendicular to the direction of wave propagation.
This means if the electric field vector is present in the vertical plane above the surface of the earth then it is known as vertically polarized.


Summary:

vertical antenna
radiates vertically polarized waves,
while
horizontal antenna radiates horizontally polarized waves.
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vertically polarized waves : if the electric field vector is present in the vertical plane above the surface of the earth then it is known as vertically polarized.
likewise,

horizontally polarized waves
.:when the electric field vector is along the horizontal plane then it is called horizontally polarized waves.
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Hence polarization is the characteristical property of the antenna designed to radiate linearly polarized wave.
Wave alignment in space either vertical or horizontal is known as linear polarization.

linearly polarized wave:
linear polarization or plane polarization of electromagnetic radiation is a confinement of the electric field vector or magnetic field vector to
a given plane along the direction of propagation.
but because we are interested now with electric field vector we skip magnetic field and its vector but not for long


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Electromagnetic Wave in form of:STANDING WAVE

Please look at my previous comment
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346



We have the two applications  we are interested with
1. energy transfer from  point A to point B using Zenneck Wave and Interface
and that will be any point A on earth to any point B.

2. Energy extraction from Schumann Waveguide
and that  will be   the energy that landed naturally in the Interface
at any point(s) on the earth and is received   at  any point B .

Because we  are dealing with origination   of electromagnetic wave at different  place of the earth  than  receiving of these waves
the  statement below will be valid as a rule:


What is the "sequence" for  electromagnetic waves?
The "sequence" for  electromagnetic waves is:
 -generation,
-propagation,
-reflection,
-and reception.

Wesley
« Last Edit: October 04, 2021, 01:26:21 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #289 on: October 04, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »
A nie lepiej by było zastosować do odbioru antenę ferrytową na pasmo vlf zamiast transformatora tesli, co do polaryzacji liniowej to też przecież możesz postawić pionowo, no i sama antena była by mniejszych rozmiarów.
Wesley's answer:
Do pomieszczenia  Fali Zenneck w intrfejsie  antenna musi byc  pionowa a dodatkowo fala musi byc w TM mode.
A ferryt rzeczywiscie zmniejsza rozmiary cewki do tego dojde pozniej.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 12:15:07 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #289 on: October 04, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »
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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #290 on: October 05, 2021, 04:41:31 PM »
This is the answer part I of  point 3
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560251/#msg560251
Preparing electromagnetic wave to travel in waveguide or  its special kind the INTERFACE:



POLARIZATION

we continuing with  explaining polarization


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From part H ( in previous post) we know that:
-  our transmitting antenna(-the Tesla Coil) must be vertical  and because of that the electromagnetic wave is vertically polarized.
   
Wave Tilt:
From the world of classical mechanics we know that shape,direction and  elevation of water can be regulated.
https://youtu.be/8gcYvzILLbc?t=197
The same  story is with  electromagnetic  wave ruled by quantum phenomena .

 
Sensing probes around Tesla Coil transmitter:
We will tune Top Capacitor of Tesla Coil into Complex Brewster Angle.
The slope of conical pattern  of electromagnetic field  will be presented in next comments.
It will look like narrow cone.
By reading  electromagnetic magnetic field on each  one of  Probes we are  able to   find if the electromagnetic wave
is now at  the right  angle of tilt.
When we than check the signal on  Tesla Coil assembly ( that is in Far Field) acting as a receiver 
we need to remember that its Top Capacitor must be tuned too to maximum power  received.
That is why humanity  didn't yet know about  not only sending  energy from point A to point B but  they didn't know how to extract 
and receive energy from Schumann  waveguide too.



I'm working on it now
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 02:27:40 AM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #291 on: October 05, 2021, 06:38:52 PM »
 Conical sloping pattern  of electromagnetic field   propagation starting from  Top capacitor   of Tesla Coilc was presented on pictures 1, 2, and 3.

However physics  prefers to  look at it as like at cylinders.
Physics visualizes this electromagnetic field  as wider and wider spreading out cylinders having less and less power .. the further 
they are apart from the Tx Tesla Coil.

(Look how tall these cylinders are . Than draw with your eyes the line starting from top capacitor along the top edge  of all cylinders  and you'll see that this line is sloping like a cone.)
   

- such propagation is called cylindrical
- such waves  are called cylindrical waves
- the front of this wave is called cylindrical wavefront.

As you see on picture below :
 our Tesla coil is and acts as our LINE OF SOURCE
explanation of point of source and line of source is here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560319/#msg560319

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« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 12:37:07 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #292 on: October 07, 2021, 02:51:14 AM »
Dobra koledzy.- lukaszkwiatkowskii i -r2fpl
wracamy do tematu:

A wiec :
Lukasz:"PART 4, Receiving antennas" w książce:
https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/hdb/R-HDB-59-2014-PDF-E.pdf ,


Lukasz nawiazal do ferrytow: Tutaj masz  odpowiedz na swoj komentarz i pytanie o ferrytach:
September 12, 2021,
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However one of secrets of  replication of Dr James Corum device is use of ferrite bars.
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560291/#msg560291

 
TM mode and  Brewster Angle 
Wyjasnienie   co i dlaczego jest w tych video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw  Lecture 21 (EM21)
https://youtu.be/aM2g1J1J8To 
Surface waves Complex Angles in Electromagnetics and Photonics
credit to Ivan Speedy 125


Jak skoncze ten rozdzial to sam  napisze ze prosze o komentarze.
Wszystko co nie zwiazane z tematem  wyczyszcze bo mi juz zwrocili uwage ...

Wesley
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