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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2019, 04:29:13 AM »
#74 : a capacitor is also called in german Kondensator
" Capacitor" translated
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Original in german: Kondensator
https://www.formel-sammlung.de/formel-Kondensatoren-3-30-182.html

  a capacitor/Kondensator does not be based by min. 2 " plates" but by min. 2 electrodes and a dielectric space.

         the " plates" as surface can exist as foils or coils.

        https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2009154492A3&KC=A3&FT=D#       
         turned coils + insulation   as capacitor/Kondensator

       
        representing an alternative to these band foils capacitor/Kondensator  here

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1#

       Function : Blindleistung/ reactive power to Wirkleistung/ active power by Ampere-turns modulation ( ~ RPM)

       magnetic field ( streng) x magnetic flux
       x 1/2 positive half period + 1/2 negative half period excitation by frequency

       frequency barrier : resistance,permissivity,Currie-temperature


       capacitor/Kondensator physically : electro-static magnet ; potential energy to kinetic energy ( push or pull)

        Kondensat ~ Lev Landaus cosmic Aether to Einstein-Bose Kondensat ,"Fluidum"

        https://books.google.pt/books?id=VGd4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=einstein-bose+kondensat+aether&source=bl&ots=alcw4Vs_45&sig=ACfU3U1jMWFZcAqdVz4cXv9s0GZ_hRYmmw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj77q7oy_zkAhUN4BoKHbbRCh4Q6AEwC3oECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=einstein-bose%20kondensat%20aether&f=false

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2019, 04:22:57 PM »


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« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2019, 03:09:38 AM »
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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2019, 04:35:20 AM »
I doubt the TC would work that well without the top-load capacitor.

I don't know for sure but it looks like this guy did about 50 feet (15 meters) transmission through one wire without the top-load capacitor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtG5nU34WQ0


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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2019, 10:37:06 AM »
I don't know for sure but it looks like this guy did about 50 feet (15 meters) transmission through one wire without the top-load capacitor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtG5nU34WQ0


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A capacitor is not needed, but a light bulb that has to be matched with impedance is important.

You have two bulbs and each has 75W but they are different in performance. One will glow and the other will not.
Another variant: 230V 75W light bulb switched on and 12V 6W will not work.

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2019, 07:30:16 PM »
longitudinal wave and effect Kapanadze. Black is output.

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2019, 03:07:33 AM »
Hi guys,

Here is a single wire transmission preliminary test (not yet ideal) of my new v2.0 Tesla Coil


Link to video demo: https://youtu.be/AdiOlxIo5ZU


Regards
Luc

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2019, 10:03:00 AM »
Hi guys,

Here is a single wire transmission preliminary test (not yet ideal) of my new v2.0 Tesla Coil


Link to video demo: https://youtu.be/AdiOlxIo5ZU


Regards
Luc


 :o  as always.  awesome work. Glad you used the 18W lamp :) Did you try TKs circuit on these also? Interested know the difference with your pulsed DC. All the best with the tuning. Adjustable TL height?

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2019, 10:24:39 AM »
Good People Have you seen my movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMK0B9ljNrc

www.TamasEduard.com

Good job Luc   8)

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2019, 03:27:55 PM »
Did you try TKs circuit on these also? Interested know the difference with your pulsed DC. All the best with the tuning. Adjustable TL height?

Yes Jimboot, I tried TK's circuit but the pulsed dc circuit is the most efficient because I can fine tune perimeters (frequency & pulse width) to the point where the mosfet stays cool, At 1 Amp it's barely warm but interestingly enough, the heavy wire primary gets warmer then the mosfet.

I haven't yet rigged up the top-capacitance to raise or lower. That will get done next week.

Cheers
Luc

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Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board
« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2019, 05:39:38 PM »
Dear  Luc ...Can you try  to feed Tx Tesla Coil with spark gap?
Spark  gap  as heaving  wide spectrum of frequencies can be  regulated in its frequency  response by changing both
the spark gap   distance between electrodes and  Voltage by using Variak( autotransformer)
1.
One  of  examples of    low audiable frequencies resonance  transmitters here:
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The English engineer William Duddell discovered how to make a resonant circuit using a carbon arc lamp.
Duddell's "musical arc" operated at audio frequencies, and Duddell himself concluded that it was impossible to make
the arc oscillate at radio frequencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequencies
so with spark gap it is quite easy  to go from  center having  maximum of amplitude at 15kHz to  500kHz.
2.
example of  Tx using Tesla Coil at:
-range at center of e.g ~250kHz
-lower  edge ~20kHz
-upper edge of ~500kHz
using spark gap connected  to primary   will have its  maximum at 100% of amplitude at 250kHz
and its 75% of amplitude  at its low ~170 kHz  and respectively ~320kHz
3.
-if spark gap distance  between electrodes is  small  the voltage feeding  spark gap can be  small.
-if significant break between pulses  is required than the oldest method  was rotary  mechanical wheel with 4 to 8 contacts  rotating between two
 electrodes of spark gap. or in modern concept it was thiristor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyristor
4.
look at the picture below and curve of   Poulsen's arc  only.
Don't  pay attention  to any other curve on  the  picture.

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Valdemar Poulsen succeeded in raising the efficiency and frequency to the desired level.
Poulsen's arc could generate frequencies of up to 200 kilohertz and was patented in 1903.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_converter

So why do  we need it:
-Tariel  Kapanadze, SR  193, Akula, Ruslan.. in  their  first concept devices  used spark  gap.
-Surface wave in   the  wire coated  with  dielectric  e.g coaxial cable  (Goubau  line)  differs from   interface  e.g   aluminum foil and air
 not  to much.
So once is tried  with one wire energy transmission  from point A  to point B it can be applied  also to interface based  devices.
We need to understand, that science  tends to give  different names to the same phenomena  where  physical processes are alike   
based on slight differences specific to  each  one  of them .
-e.g Goubau  line uses  wire coated with   dielectric and that should be   named  the interface, but it is not.
-two dielectrics differing  with their  dielectric properties   such  as Teflon  and Polyamide  makes interface
- conductive medium such as  aluminum foil  and  air creates  interfaced as well
- lossy conductive  medium  a such  as earth   and air creates interface too
and so on...

The benefit: if   frequency  drift  from main  e.g 250kHz  there is always adjacent frequency   next to it having  enough  of  amplitude to take over and carry on generation at not less than 75% of  max amplitude
so  this was the first  "automatic" frequency  adjustment  system in  year 1900   

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« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2019, 06:30:36 PM »
What about a single stand-alone TC? Certainly the top-load "capacitor" does not comprise both plates of a capacitor? Then what could be the other plate?

Your questions are based on your mindset that capacitance needs two physical plates to qualify as a capacitor. It does not. However, if you want to use capacitance in modern day electronic circuits, then yes, you need two plates.
In the case of a TC there's a electrostatic field that builds up between the secondary coil surface and the top capacitance surface. They mutually interact without physical termination (plates).

Of course a capacitor must have two "plates", otherwise it is not a capacitor.

Fact is, capacitance does not need two plates to exist or even discharge. There is no plate in the ionosphere and charges interact (lightning) all the time.
A balloon has no plates and can be charged or discharged. So I consider it a capacitor.
Plates can be used as an electrical conduit if one wishes to terminate a charge (capacitance) at a specific location and I guess that's when you consider it a capacitor.

Once again, what might constitute the second plate when it comes to a TC?

I can guess you want me to say that each Tesla coil top capacitance makes a two plate capacitor but that's your belief not mine.

The dielectric. Hmm, what exactly is that? Does a capacitor need one to have capacitance?

No, a dielectric is not a must since air capacitors exist but their capacitance possess the smallest values. The more air space between plates the smaller the capacitance value. So 95% of the capacitors used in electronics have a dielectric material of some kind.

Suppose the top-load of a TC is only one half of the capacitor? Suppose in the scenario in which you have two TC's situated and connected as you do, might each top-load plate constitute one plate of a common capacitor, and the ether (air) between them the dielectric? Might such a case represent a conventional closed circuit?

I suppose if one had the TC lined up and in close proximity one may conclude it could be a conventional closed loop circuit but the more I pursue it and further push the possibilities like in my latest video demo the less it's supporting your theory.

Here is the latest video if you missed it: https://youtu.be/AdiOlxIo5ZU

Regards
Luc

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« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2019, 07:18:08 PM »
Your questions are based on your mindset that capacitance needs two physical plates to qualify as a capacitor. It does not. However, if you want to use capacitance in modern day electronic circuits, then yes, you need two plates.
In the case of a TC there's a electrostatic field that builds up between the secondary coil surface and the top capacitance surface. They mutually interact without physical termination (plates).
Fact is, capacitance does not need two plates to exist or even discharge. There is no plate in the ionosphere and charges interact (lightning) all the time.
A balloon has no plates and can be charged or discharged. So I consider it a capacitor.
Plates can be used as an electrical conduit if one wishes to terminate a capacitance at a specific location and I guess that's when you consider it a capacitor.
I can guess you want me to say that each Tesla coil top capacitance makes a two plate capacitor but that's your belief not mine.
No, a dielectric is not a must since air capacitors exist but their capacitance possess the smallest values. The more air space between plates the smaller the capacitance value.
So 95% of the capacitors used in electronics have a dielectric material of some kind.
I suppose if one had the TC lined up and in close proximity one may conclude it could be a conventional closed loop
circuit but the more I pursue it and further push the possibilities like in my latest video demo the less it's supporting your theory.
Well  I have problem with your  answer:
Everything in nature needs a  balance.
Top  Capacitor has  difference  of potential  between  Earth and itself
Top  Capacitor  has  difference of potential  between any structure that is less  positively charged .
Top  Capacitor   is just one plate   that is charged against something  that it could be refereed to.


The  ionosphere  is   verified in its potential  against  the opposite of its  sign in charge and  that is Earth.
There is no such thing like one single charge in space  with no "opposites"
Charge  is an "elevation." in general means https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge
In atomic structure  the  electrons heaving  higher charge are  more  far from nuclei.
And these electrons occupies   higher orbit in  the electron cloud.
changing  the charge to higher  makes them  to    leave the atom  and  that is the basic of electric current flow.
If something is  elevated  in anything, solids liquids, altitude   it is  always  measured against something.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/find-the-magnitude-and-sign-of-the-point-charge-at-the-origin.225276/


The earth can be considered as a single-conductor capacitor. It can also be considered in combination with a charged layer
of the atmosphere, the ionosphere, as a spherical capacitor with two plates, the surface of the earth being the negative plate.
The ionosphere is at a level of about 70km, and the potential difference between earth and ionosphere is about 350000V.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-earths-capacitance.655604/

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« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2019, 11:40:58 PM »
I have problem with your  answer

Maybe because my answers are only addressing a specific conversation between poynt99 and myself and are not to be taken as a general view.
I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I just don't understand how it fits with our conversation, so please allow me to be specific.


What ponynt99 has been saying (which you did not specifically address) is how the transfer of power is taken place between Tesla Coils.


poynt99 is convinced the transfer of power is taking place between the single wire and TC top capacitance linking together (2 plate capacitor) through the ground to complete the current return path.


I conclude the power is being all transmitted through the single wire between each TC.
The TC top capacitance are single plate capacitor and not linked in any way.


Which way do you agree it works?... if you don't agree with either then please explain in a simple and specific way as I did.


Kind regards
Luc

 

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