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Title: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 06, 2019, 08:25:16 AM
Hi Over Unity I spent this past month studying what I could find from Steven Mark's Toroid Power Unity and decided to start building a small study version ....
I would like someone to help you understand the assembly correctly and some tips on wiring ....

I made a small 12 x 5 cm toroid.
The collector has 3 layers of wire with the first and second having 11 turns and the third used a slightly thicker wire totaling nine turns ...

The controllers used the same 14-wire Green / Yellow wire and the 14-wire thick white wire.

What I could find in Steven mark's messages is that sometimes he talks about potential difference ... So I used a different wire layer too so I can use it as a kick to start the magnetic loop ...

Now I have some questions that I would like to be helped so that I can take proper care and concern when starting the tests with the frequencies ....

1. The two wires left of the winding of the 3 coils of my collector I will use for output, is that right?

2. I need to create a mechanism for frequency cancellation, right? so that it does not go into a loop that is not returning and different than expected ... I do it on my control coils right ??? Just interrupting the frequencies I'll be sending is enough for the device to turn off if it's producing any voltage ...

3. Is it easier to try to harmonize the device by testing separate frequencies for each control coil or is it better to leave them all in sequence and use an input-only signal for modulation ??? I have a control coil with a slightly thicker wire to try to kick the collecting coil ...

4. I do not have a frequency generating equipment so I am thinking of using my computer and testing from music production software by sending the notes via a virtual keyboard to the device ... is it feasible ??? Would you have to plug in a 5 volt transformer to amplify the signal ???
Would anyone have a more appropriate idea ???

Well, the ideas that came into my mind have only reached this small level of understanding ... I know ... I would be grateful if anyone were interested in giving me some direction in the right direction so that I don't end up doing something stupid. .

Gratitude....
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 11, 2019, 11:29:40 AM
Hi Over Unity I spent this past month studying what I could find from Steven Mark's Toroid Power Unity and decided to start building a small study version ....
I would like someone to help you understand the assembly correctly and some tips on wiring ....

I made a small 12 x 5 cm toroid.
The collector has 3 layers of wire with the first and second having 11 turns and the third used a slightly thicker wire totaling nine turns ...

The controllers used the same 14-wire Green / Yellow wire and the 14-wire thick white wire.

What I could find in Steven mark's messages is that sometimes he talks about potential difference ... So I used a different wire layer too so I can use it as a kick to start the magnetic loop ...

Now I have some questions that I would like to be helped so that I can take proper care and concern when starting the tests with the frequencies ....

1. The two wires left of the winding of the 3 coils of my collector I will use for output, is that right?

2. I need to create a mechanism for frequency cancellation, right? so that it does not go into a loop that is not returning and different than expected ... I do it on my control coils right ??? Just interrupting the frequencies I'll be sending is enough for the device to turn off if it's producing any voltage ...

3. Is it easier to try to harmonize the device by testing separate frequencies for each control coil or is it better to leave them all in sequence and use an input-only signal for modulation ??? I have a control coil with a slightly thicker wire to try to kick the collecting coil ...

4. I do not have a frequency generating equipment so I am thinking of using my computer and testing from music production software by sending the notes via a virtual keyboard to the device ... is it feasible ??? Would you have to plug in a 5 volt transformer to amplify the signal ???
Would anyone have a more appropriate idea ???

Well, the ideas that came into my mind have only reached this small level of understanding ... I know ... I would be grateful if anyone were interested in giving me some direction in the right direction so that I don't end up doing something stupid. .

Gratitude....

Dear crashangel.

You have almost stumbled upon the right coil configuration.
You are almost there but you missed some crucial points.

Here is some safety information about the materials you used for the coils:

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By the way, we found that ordinary multi strand lamp cable
worked very well for use as a collector.
Thick gage wire can dissipate the heat very well but there are two
problems.
First the heavy gage wire isn't as efficient as the multi strand copper and
also there is a safety advantage in using the multi strand lamp cable.
If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too
much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage.
The multi strand wire will just burn up and open the circuit whereas the
heavy gage wire will continue to conduct until there will be the equivalent
of a lightning strike of the unit.


Here is some info from the docs on the collector coil:

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The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together./td]


1.
These horizontal coils are your collector:

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You can do many things with three coils.
You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.

2.
No you do not need a mechanism of cancellation, this pattern is a result of how the coils interact with each other and the combination of feed frequencies: 

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with the right combination of frequencies, you can actually create a revolving field with inertial!

3.
There is some information about the frequency feeds:

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you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.

Please do not take this lightly.
The frequency components are critical to your level of success.
You won't succeed with a battery and a diode.

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You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be.

But remember this:

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First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.

So this means that there is a relationship between these signals.

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Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillationand control.

So this shows that there is also a link between collectors and control coils.
From this you can extract a lot of usable information if you read it carefully.

4.
A sound card is very limited and you might damage your computer. ( this happened to me way back in 2006)
It can only go up to about a 20 KiloHertz.

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I made an amp and had a really difficult time with a 35K resonance.
I had so much trouble with it that I finally left the resonance there.
I last measured it at 35.705K at a really high level.
It is a good thing that I can't hear that high.
But it does prove that my output transformer is capable of going up to 245K HZ.
Which I measured.

Luckily we have seen a microprocessor boom and you can order ready made usable controller boards everywhere on the net.
It's not hard to learn how to program these things and they run on crystal so they are rock solid.

My findings were as follows, do it right, know why you do what you do.
Don't wrap a coil and hope that it will magically start to deliver electricity when you hook it up to your sound card.
There is more to it.
Realize that because it is important.
Many people have wasted so much time on this.
Make sure you do it right.

if you want to re read the docs i composed, i will attach a copy.
And there is more info some was never published but i would have to look for it specifically in my archives.
If you think you need it let me know.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 11, 2019, 09:48:25 PM
Dear crashangel.

You have almost stumbled upon the right coil configuration.
You are almost there but you missed some crucial points.

Here is some safety information about the materials you used for the coils:


Here is some info from the docs on the collector coil:


1.
These horizontal coils are your collector:

2.
No you do not need a mechanism of cancellation, this pattern is a result of how the coils interact with each other and the combination of feed frequencies: 

3.
There is some information about the frequency feeds:

Please do not take this lightly.
The frequency components are critical to your level of success.
You won't succeed with a battery and a diode.

But remember this:

So this means that there is a relationship between these signals.

So this shows that there is also a link between collectors and control coils.
From this you can extract a lot of usable information if you read it carefully.

4.
A sound card is very limited and you might damage your computer. ( this happened to me way back in 2006)
It can only go up to about a 20 KiloHertz.

Luckily we have seen a microprocessor boom and you can order ready made usable controller boards everywhere on the net.
It's not hard to learn how to program these things and they run on crystal so they are rock solid.

My findings were as follows, do it right, know why you do what you do.
Don't wrap a coil and hope that it will magically start to deliver electricity when you hook it up to your sound card.
There is more to it.
Realize that because it is important.
Many people have wasted so much time on this.
Make sure you do it right.

if you want to re read the docs i composed, i will attach a copy.
And there is more info some was never published but i would have to look for it specifically in my archives.
If you think you need it let me know.

Hmmm ... I understand what you are telling me ...

I need to study and learn even more to be able to reach a higher level of understanding ... I have realized that just the basic understanding of the mechanism will not help me much in all the challenges that I have yet to face ... SM wrote that it is necessary We had the understanding of vacuum tubes first and that would help in developing these devices .... Do you know any good books to point me out?

Gratitude!!! ;)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on September 11, 2019, 11:25:45 PM
The best books for learning electronics are the ARRL Amateur Radio Operators handbooks.  If you can find an older copy from back in the 1960s they will have good info about vacuum tubes.  They usually come out with a new edition every few years but only the older ones of course will have info about vacuum tubes.  You can usually find the older ones on ebay or Amazon.  And of course another option would be an online course that covers the older theories of electronics.


Good luck and welcome to the forum.
Carroll
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: gyulasun on September 12, 2019, 12:09:29 AM
Hello crashangel,
Search engines can also help you find good books.
http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf (http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf)
PS In your 1st post you attached a picture that is oversized and widens this thread very much. 
This is because your horizontal picture size is 3680 pixels and forum software is set to accomodate
only 900 or so horizontal pixel numbers without widening the thread.
Unfortunately, you cannot edit your 1st post any more but next time please consider picture size
when you wish to upload.

Gyula
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 12, 2019, 04:39:20 AM
Hello crashangel,
Search engines can also help you find good books.
http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf (http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf)
PS In your 1st post you attached a picture that is oversized and widens this thread very much. 
This is because your horizontal picture size is 3680 pixels and forum software is set to accomodate
only 900 or so horizontal pixel numbers without widening the thread.
Unfortunately, you cannot edit your 1st post any more but next time please consider picture size
when you wish to upload.


Ok !  :-[

Thanks !!!

Gyula
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 14, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
Don't worry about it.

You do not have to experiment with tubes or high voltage transformers.
In stead you can look at a cheap micro controller board with usb and breakout capabilities.
For example like Arduino or Raspberry.
This way you can program it using your computer and break out an opto coupler driven mosfet ir igbt power module to drive your coils.
It's all readily available and because of this you are in a good position.

Its also very easy to program them so i do not see any reason as to why you should not continue your current path.
The chances on a successful outcome, have never been better.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 14, 2019, 09:25:55 PM
TPU has been discussed numeral times.
Nobody knows how TPU works.
I am interested in your attempt of building it.
I am still curious about its principle!

Give it a try!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 14, 2019, 10:14:51 PM
By the way, I found this on other TPU thread.
Maybe it helps.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 15, 2019, 08:47:58 AM
Don't worry about it.

You do not have to experiment with tubes or high voltage transformers.
In stead you can look at a cheap micro controller board with usb and breakout capabilities.
For example like Arduino or Raspberry.
This way you can program it using your computer and break out an opto coupler driven mosfet ir igbt power module to drive your coils.
It's all readily available and because of this you are in a good position.

Its also very easy to program them so i do not see any reason as to why you should not continue your current path.
The chances on a successful outcome, have never been better.

Hummm!!!!

Great answer!!!!
I have been devoted to analyzing and still learning by watching the journey of all previous posts and events here on the overunity forum as well as how Bruce TPU's journey followed ....

I am having some ideas and I will follow the parameters of a new TPU with a separate controller for each coil as it appeared in some later posts ...
In favor of this I have some experience with Keshe Magrav technology in creating copper caustic soda nano coating ... which can be measured the power in devices producing power through plasma ... I know that is not exactly the specialized area of people here but can help me answer some of the gaps more easily as plasma provides a kind of energetic river running through the copper wire that can have measurable results without the need for a kick ... which I invariably know I still need to be doing even so...
The factor of putting frequencies in a coil has appeared to be quite real and it really works ... It seems to me that some have already solved these problems and know the answers and solutions that I will need to find in this turnaround challenge. ... I also agree and it seems very correct to me since no one in terms of power generation could achieve something undeserved ...

I know everyone is intent on helping me ... I will build new devices and try loops inside some aleton live audio software and see how our learning will unfold ....


I can already see and it seemed very authentic watching the videos of SM that the device really has a resistance and that has a vortex energy happening repeatedly ... I have a plasma device also here at home ... but that works with a lot less power .... The power generation for me is quite interesting ... but if I could have this twig working and also add the healing effects layer to amplify what I have on my device would really be the purposes I have Searched lately ... All the research I found and searching the far ends of the Internet I came across UFOs devices ... There is no way ... And I realized that well being and human health has always been linked to their access and control. devices and knowledge .... I am not religious ... but it seems to me quite realistic and prudent to be aware of whatever you are doing ...

I walk i don't have full english fluency ... i am using google translate ... some prepositions may appear incorrectly ... sorry ...


Gratitude....
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 16, 2019, 05:56:14 PM
And on a side note i would advice you to stick to the documentation AND TO STAY AWAY FROM BRUCE for as far as possible.
It's a dead end.

Also and this is important, i would advice you to stick to the documentation, and do not try to compare to another technology or device, or to try and explain the device.
Those attempts are futile, in stead stick to the documents and use the WYSIWYG approach.

The docs never make any mention of a plasma but it does mention atomic, you can use keywords to search for things.

The coil configuration is in there and the fact that the frequency's have a harmonic relationship, and that something happens at a specific frequency combination, which is realted to the diameter or circumference of the collector coil.

This is a decent amount of information to get you started.

You do not have to listen to others.
You do not have to look at other devices.
You do not have to look for possible operational mechanism.

Everything you add will only result in more doubt and or more confusion.
You best bet would be to do exactly what the man wrote.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 17, 2019, 08:56:21 AM
And on a side note i would advice you to stick to the documentation AND TO STAY AWAY FROM BRUCE for as far as possible.
It's a dead end.

Also and this is important, i would advice you to stick to the documentation, and do not try to compare to another technology or device, or to try and explain the device.
Those attempts are futile, in stead stick to the documents and use the WYSIWYG approach.

The docs never make any mention of a plasma but it does mention atomic, you can use keywords to search for things.

The coil configuration is in there and the fact that the frequency's have a harmonic relationship, and that something happens at a specific frequency combination, which is realted to the diameter or circumference of the collector coil.

This is a decent amount of information to get you started.

You do not have to listen to others.
You do not have to look at other devices.
You do not have to look for possible operational mechanism.

Everything you add will only result in more doubt and or more confusion.
You best bet would be to do exactly what the man wrote.




Hmmm ... understood ...
It really seems to be the right thing to do ....
One more question I know I'll need before building a new device ...
How do I find out or calculate how often I will be using my pickup coil?

would anyone have any examples of the dimensions or documentation of a constructed coil that generated some kind of passing result? Following in someone's footsteps seems reliable and would also help a lot from the same point where a gap lies to be resolved ...

Thanks...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: icarus on September 17, 2019, 02:42:49 PM
An easy way to create 3 individually controllable frequencies is to use arduino.
I am attaching a very simple code that allows you to have 3 frequencies adjustable from 40 Hz to 2 MHz with duty cycle variable from 1 to 99%.

If you add a potentiometer (connected to the arduino output pin with the other two arms on the ground and positive) you can adjust the frequency on the fly. Same thing for duty cycle.

Before connecting mosfets use optocouplers, if you want them to last.

I have used it keeping a fixed (fundamental) frequency and determining the other two as third and fifth, as if it were a major music chord. As usual, no result.

Ciao

Icarus
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 17, 2019, 04:24:55 PM
An easy way to create 3 individually controllable frequencies is to use arduino.
I am attaching a very simple code that allows you to have 3 frequencies adjustable from 40 Hz to 2 MHz with duty cycle variable from 1 to 99%.

If you add a potentiometer (connected to the arduino output pin with the other two arms on the ground and positive) you can adjust the frequency on the fly. Same thing for duty cycle.

Before connecting mosfets use optocouplers, if you want them to last.

I have used it keeping a fixed (fundamental) frequency and determining the other two as third and fifth, as if it were a major music chord. As usual, no result.

Ciao

Icarus

Thanks a lot for this offer. Unfortunately it seems that it didn't uploaded right. But you can copy paste the code on a post here if you have some time. :)

Turbo:

Thanks for the pdf. You mentioned about a link between control coils and collector. Do you mean a physical link? It would have some meaning as SM spoke about vortex and rotating magnetic fields in two planes. Also it would be really much appreciated if you could upload the missing info that you mentioned about.

Regards
Jeg
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 12:35:13 AM
Thanks a lot for this offer. Unfortunately it seems that it didn't uploaded right. But you can copy paste the code on a post here if you have some time. :)

Turbo:

Thanks for the pdf. You mentioned about a link between control coils and collector. Do you mean a physical link? It would have some meaning as SM spoke about vortex and rotating magnetic fields in two planes. Also it would be really much appreciated if you could upload the missing info that you mentioned about.

Regards
Jeg

Yes it's a physical link.

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Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.

each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and
or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillationand
control.



This probably is some sort of feedback loop to feed back power back into the field to increase it's intensity or to force a directional component.
I do not want to go into a deep theory but i will say this:

The field around a coil grows and shrinks, as such it does not have a real directional component it just increases and decreases in it's intensity.

If your goal was to create a directional field you would have to use another coil to push or pull this growing and shrinking field.
Steven referred to this as squeezing the hose;

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You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons through the collector coils.


Another method to create a directional movement is when you switch from coil to coil, the minimum number required for a definite direction will be 3.

When you cut the current on a coil it will produce a high voltage spike.
This spike is the high speed imploding magnetic field, which collapses into the coil that generated it.
It doesn't really have a directional component because it shrinks evenly fast at all sides at the same time.
If you were to have the ability to control this implosion and force (or fire) it in one direction over a wire, by using other fields, the results could be unexpected.

I came to this conclusion after the transformer experiment.
Steven wrote:

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Anyway, I have taken a high voltage power supply as follows:
500 v-0-500 v 300 mV plate transformer run it through a full wave silicon circuit then run it through a 5U4 electron tube rectifier.
Now you know that the 5U4 requires 5 volts AC at 3 amps for its heater to gather the electrons and complete the circuit.
Well, I measured the output from the tube and the result is 500 volts DC at 250 mV.
The loss is due to the high impedance of the tube and its limited ability to dissipate more than 250 mA..
The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current!
They are both completely independent of each other except for some very interesting things I will mention to you some other
time..

First of all, obviously you can have several different output components in the power output signal.
You can have DC and AC together without any problem.


In this example you can find the following clue:
One half of the AC cycle the current is moving in the same direction or polarity, as the DC voltage, while the other half of the AC sine wave, the current will run in opposite direction from the DC voltage.

The DC voltage is dominating because it is at a much stronger level, so although the AC current runs in opposing direction in one half of the sine wave cycle, the result is always moving in one direction, the direction of the DC.

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You could describe the useable current output of my coil as DC but with some hash in it.

You can have DC and AC together without any problem.


Another element is that when you power up a coil with a constant DC voltage, the field becomes polarized.
The way it was explained to me is that (most) of the electrons spins inside metals will all line up in the same direction either at 0 or 180 degrees.
And then, in that polarized field, these spins can be precisely controlled by applying a high frequency RF field.
This ties into nuclear magnetic resonance, i didn't want to go there, but here we are.
 
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The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort.
They are only a means to achieve an end.

In the early units magnets were used to constitute the polarized DC field, in fact Steven was working with speakers and (double) voice coils which are also inside of a strong permanent magnetic field, and he was trying to create spatial sound effects, which incorporated feeding noise and delayed signals into these coils, somewhat later Steven wrote about 15 inch speakers, alas, the TPU is a gigantic nuclear powered triple voicecoil.

This is what happens when you start to theorize about the things that could be, and it is also why i mentioned sticking to the script, because in reality we just don't know.
But the man mentioned the atomic energy commission and a nuclear connection so thats been my primary direction of thought.

If it is, then it should not be hard to find, but it requires a definite and very targeted approach in taking on the correct sequence of actions that will eventually lead to the discovery of the so sought after result.

I will look for the archives.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 18, 2019, 02:04:07 AM
Holy mother of god ...  :o hehehe :D
There are many parameters that need to be very well aligned, defined and synchronized for this device to work ...

I will take into consideration everything everyone is teaching me and try to pay as much attention as possible at the time of construction and initial testing ...

Gratitude...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:02:35 AM
Yes it's a physical link.

Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: icarus on September 18, 2019, 08:13:00 AM
Ok, this is the code:

//this sketch produces 3 signals on output pins 3, 5 and 9, with adjustable frequency and duty cycle
//minimum frequency 36 Hz max 2MHz

#include <PWM.h>

void setup() {
  int dc1; //duty cycle from 1 to 100
  int dc2;
  int dc3;
 
  Serial.begin(9600);
 
  InitTimers();

  long freq_1 = 40000 ; //frequency 1
  long freq_2 = 90000;  //frequency 2
  long freq_3 = 10000;  //frequency 3

  SetPinFrequency(3, freq_1); //pin out on 3 5 e 9
  SetPinFrequency(5, freq_2);
  SetPinFrequency(9, freq_3);
 
  dc1=20;  //duty cycle settings
  dc2=10;
  dc3=50;
 
  pwmWrite(3, (256*dc1)/100);
  pwmWrite(5, (256*dc2)/100);
  pwmWrite(9, (256*dc3)/100);

}

void loop() {
}
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:25:14 AM
Ok, this is the code:

//this sketch produces 3 signals on output pins 3, 5 and 9, with adjustable frequency and duty cycle
//minimum frequency 36 Hz max 2MHz

#include <PWM.h>

void setup() {
  int dc1; //duty cycle from 1 to 100
  int dc2;
  int dc3;
 
  Serial.begin(9600);
 
  InitTimers();

  long freq_1 = 40000 ; //frequency 1
  long freq_2 = 90000;  //frequency 2
  long freq_3 = 10000;  //frequency 3

  SetPinFrequency(3, freq_1); //pin out on 3 5 e 9
  SetPinFrequency(5, freq_2);
  SetPinFrequency(9, freq_3);
 
  dc1=20;  //duty cycle settings
  dc2=10;
  dc3=50;
 
  pwmWrite(3, (256*dc1)/100);
  pwmWrite(5, (256*dc2)/100);
  pwmWrite(9, (256*dc3)/100);

}

void loop() {
}

Just great.
Appreciated! ;)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 10:42:54 AM
Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards

I can certainly see some similarities in that picture.
There is just one difference i do not know if that picture has one or more turns, but they seem to be interleaved.
And Steven was very specific about it when he wrote:

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About the collector:
It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved.
Three is important.


For a long time we thought it was 3 separate coils stacked on top of one another but when Steven saw this design, he mentioned that it was wrong.

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Sent to: tao on: June 28, 2006, 04:04:44 AM
Tao,By the way.. When Steven said that you have the secret he said in another mail among other things that
you have the collector and contol winding relationship the wrong way..Ie excitation into control... allows the
collector the perform magnetic conversion.


So i eventually came to the conclusion that i had to be 3 horizontal coils on top of each other in the horizontal plane.

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What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

Steven was very specific in his writings about the frequency's he wrote that were directly related to either the circumference, or the diameter of the coil.
Not so much the length of wire which you would expect in terms of wavelength.
The large units had a slow vibration but the smaller ones vibrated at a higher frequency.

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In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.


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I made an amp and had a really difficult time with a 35K resonance.
I had so much trouble with it that I finally left the resonance there.
I last measured it at 35.705K at a really high level.
It is a good thing that I can't hear that high.
But it does prove that my output transformer is capable of going up to 245 KHZ.
Which I measured.
HEY, did you know that the frequency is proportional to the speaker's circumference?
it appears that the frequency should change with the circumference of the speaker.
That makes sense to you does it?
No one I have talked to realizes that yet.

I use 15" speakers myself.

They are 15" from the dead center of the outside flange to the other sides flange.
You know transistors just don't do well at those high frequencies.
They try hard but they just make all sorts of harmonics all over the place.
dirty things transistors.
MOSFETS are better you know if you wanted to make an amplifier that behaved as though it was a tube amp but in a smaller size.


Also notice the fields in image 18.. feeding these coils with several frequencies would definitely make them vibrate like a speaker.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 10:50:44 AM
What also caught my attention was that the same setup and number of coils is being used in modern MRI and NMR equipment.
These coils slide into each other.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 01:22:58 PM
Hi Turbo
Thanks for the answers.

The "vibration" part is very interesting and needs some discussion. i have created vibrations by using beat frequencies a lot of times for several projects. Perhaps the vibration part of SM's is a side effect of a modulated signal, occured by the synthesis of the higher harmonics more, than a simple acoustic resonance of a some kind of cavity which doesn't exist anyway in SM's devices. What is your opinion on that?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 01:58:55 PM
Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: T-1000 on September 18, 2019, 04:30:03 PM
Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?



The more critical and right question there would be how inventor (SM was just a seller) made electrons move along wire in solid state coils between magnetic fields of magnets. Which also brings topic about how to simulate moving magnet from multiple coils on same base...

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 05:42:59 PM
Hi Turbo
Thanks for the answers.

The "vibration" part is very interesting and needs some discussion. i have created vibrations by using beat frequencies a lot of times for several projects. Perhaps the vibration part of SM's is a side effect of a modulated signal, occured by the synthesis of the higher harmonics more, than a simple acoustic resonance of a some kind of cavity which doesn't exist anyway in SM's devices. What is your opinion on that?

It could be way simpler then most people are thinking.

From what i had understood, the vibration is a result of magnetic heterodyning
Apparently Steven was mixing frequencies to produce another beat or center frequency.
Many people speculated that the device was tapping into the Shumann Resonanance because Steven wrote about Tesla and his lightning experiments.
The coils are way too small to resonate with these huge magnetic waves that are centered around 7.8 Hertz, but if you somehow could make the coil appear bigger, or resonate with a field by generating a field with a close matched base frequency, then it could be something to look into.
Certainly a 15 inch subwoofer can generate a 7.8 Hertz frequency so that could represent the magnetic transducer.

Also i spoke to people who actually have held several of these devices in their hands while in operation and the gyroscopic effect might be too fancy a word for the property.
As they explained to me it felt very similar to an electric sander, the hand held electric power tool.
This effect is relatively easy to recreate by setting up some bucking fields and would sure enough give the impression or appearance of a gyroscopic effect but does not necessarily have to be a high quality rotating field at all.


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My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio.
The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?

I can not see inside so the only answer i can give is i don't know.
It could be 2 it could be 3 they build many.

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We built many, many units with various combinations of collectors during our experimental days.
My colleagues and I have a recollection of about thee hundred being crushed up because they were not the best designs.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:50:43 PM
I can not see inside so the only answer i can give is i don't know.
It could be 2 it could be 3 they build many.
Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 09:08:38 PM
Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Its control wiring around each of the collector coils and additionally control wires around all of the coils together.
So it could still be in there, its a guessing game really.
And not all coils used the same configuration model.
It's best to work with what is known then to try and guess the unknown.

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Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second,then the third.

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In many of our designs we use three coils as the collector.
they can be run parallel to give higher current lower voltage output at excitation.
They can be run in series to create high voltage, lower current when reaching the point of excitation.
We have used other multiples of run of wire as well in various units construction.
Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.

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The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.
Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete control of the unit most of the time.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 19, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Someone then realized that the torus blade, even though it is hooded, is very thick and should be about 3 to 4 centimeters .... Watch it while he holds it in his hands.  2:39 in video
As much as I wanted to coat the coil I had initially made, it would never reach the width I watch in the video ...
One question: Coils on top of each other glued together and as much as they have control coils would not disturb or undo the induction of the next? It seems that it is necessary to have an airy space between each coils with their respective controls ... I did not get to see any construction of this type. What do you think, is there any logical sense in electronics and would it be plausible to build a device using this feature?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 19, 2019, 07:36:58 AM
Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards

I've been thinking of just nano-coating the wires ... so that the plasma would flow like a river above the copper wire ... I've already created some devices like this ... unlike the shape you can always measure some voltage. ... I don't know if I made a torus-shaped coil even if the control coils would be able to excite the collecting coil .... but surely I'm still curious because if on keshe devices there is a field flowing and creating magnetic lines I could somehow study how they are doing freely without an initial kick being present ... Maybe with much less voltage could make the coil get in the way ... I don't know, it's still a theory and if the control coil works. ..
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 19, 2019, 08:17:09 AM
I've been thinking of just nano-coating the wires ... so that the plasma would flow like a river above the copper wire ... I've already created some devices like this ... unlike the shape you can always measure some voltage. ... I don't know if I made a torus-shaped coil even if the control coils would be able to excite the collecting coil .... but surely I'm still curious because if on keshe devices there is a field flowing and creating magnetic lines I could somehow study how they are doing freely without an initial kick being present ... Maybe with much less voltage could make the coil get in the way ... I don't know, it's still a theory and if the control coil works. ..

This is the biggest mistake that many make.
They start to make adjustments to the design that are not in the book.
If you really want to succeed, it could be in your interest, to stick to the script.

Someone then realized that the torus blade, even though it is hooded, is very thick and should be about 3 to 4 centimeters .... Watch it while he holds it in his hands.  2:39 in video
As much as I wanted to coat the coil I had initially made, it would never reach the width I watch in the video ...
One question: Coils on top of each other glued together and as much as they have control coils would not disturb or undo the induction of the next? It seems that it is necessary to have an airy space between each coils with their respective controls ... I did not get to see any construction of this type. What do you think, is there any logical sense in electronics and would it be plausible to build a device using this feature?

If you follow the clues then you will have at least 7 layers of lamp cable, and possibly a means to support the construction.
Then there is a small controller board and possibly nine volts batteries as well depending on the unit shown.
We know he used what appeared to be cork like substances and a lot of hot glue and tape to keep it all together.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 19, 2019, 04:28:11 PM
....If you follow the clues then you will have at least 7 layers of lamp cable, and possibly a means to support the construction.
Then there is a small controller board and possibly nine volts batteries as well depending on the unit shown.
We know he used what appeared to be cork like substances and a lot of hot glue and tape to keep it all together.

There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ARMCORTEX on September 19, 2019, 08:02:54 PM
So, how sure are we of the physical build? Why doesnt somebody have a full schematic with representative signaling on each wire? Present your designs, you should have identified this basic thing, or maybe you are just grasping at straws?

So a working device has a high average dc voltage, with disregard for higher voltage pulses, and has also a low frequency
hum, that vibrates the coil.

So potentially if we installed this thing on a supportive platform sensor with 4 little spring on each quadrant and a signal processor unit we could potentially determine a coherent `precession` clue.

Any other tell tell signs?

Then using these 2 signs, it could be possible to setup a dual battery/charge recharge bank, and a sophisticated AI oscillator, that would log any frequency combinations, phase, should an abnormal even occur. With many coils running at once.

Maybe after a few months of operations we can get lucky. I dont think potentiometers is an option unless we go full Otto mode, ie, studying super hard and being smart+ years of dedication,+mental issues+ living like a hermit etc...

Judging by the looks of it, non of you are Otto`s to start with, where are your schemes?

One thing that grabbed my attention, you guys have mentionned that its impossible to magnetically couple, to any degree, the way both collector and control coil are wound(perpendicular). Does this mean that old man Otto, proved the impossible was doable, even tho he may not have had it working 100%, any output would have been significant? or was it all gibberish?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ARMCORTEX on September 20, 2019, 07:15:35 AM
You have to think of this as a time consuming chore, does anybody
Have time for such things?

Maybe, just maybe, there is enough valid info to determine a physical
Layout, and general driving signal. The frequency/pulse/phase is just numbers
Going into non functional device until...

The interesting part would be to develop an algorithm
That is more than just dumb luck, something flexible enough
To test various hypothesis and back.

In a New York mob accent... Forget about it...Room filled with TPU’s
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: tomd on September 20, 2019, 09:03:42 AM
There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards

Is he referring to wave superposition?

The equation for energy of a wave is: w = a^2.
w = energy
a = amplitude of a wave.

When two waves with identical polarization, frequency, phase and amplitude propagate in the same direction and meet (and merge) in free space, then their amplitudes will add together and the amplitude of the resultant wave will be double that of a single input wave. This physical phenomenon is called superposition or interference of the waves, when (under the above conditions) the amplitude of the resultant wave is calculated by simply adding together the amplitudes of the incoming waves.

So the amplitude of the two merged waves is 2a. However the energy of the two merged waves is (2a)^2 = 4a^2. Before the waves merged there were two waves each having a^2 energy = 2a^2. But after they merged you have 4a^2 energy. So you have doubled the energy by merging the two waves. If we take two units of energy from the output and feed it back into the input, then there are still two units remaining for utilization and the process can go on continuously.

More here https://feprinciples.wordpress.com/h...d-explanation/

That article talks about microwaves however I'm thinking more along the lines of AC or pulsed DC current/voltage in a circuit.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 20, 2019, 09:27:42 AM
You have to think of this as a time consuming chore, does anybody
Have time for such things?

Maybe, just maybe, there is enough valid info to determine a physical
Layout, and general driving signal. The frequency/pulse/phase is just numbers
Going into non functional device until...

The interesting part would be to develop an algorithm
That is more than just dumb luck, something flexible enough
To test various hypothesis and back.

In a New York mob accent... Forget about it...Room filled with TPU’s

Please don't look at this solely from your own perspective.
There are plenty of people with lots of time and there were already plenty algorithms written in the past.
Even in the times there were no ARM/Arduino boards available.

If you want to forget about it that's fine but keep your destructive advice far away from us, please.

There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards

He used iron bailing wire in the first type of devices these would put out a consistent 61.5 Volts at 25 Watts.
Also he mentioned that rusty oxidized wire worked better then new shiny wire but he was too busy to look into why that happened.

I have done these experiments long time ago.
You take two separate power supply's, one is supplying a DC Voltage while the other is supplying an AC Voltage.
Then you take one wire that is used as a shared wire in both circuits.
And then you can replace that wire with a coil too.

At first, It looks like two ordinary power supply's that are placed in series, but there is more to it then meets the eye.


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 20, 2019, 12:46:52 PM
Is he referring to wave superposition?


Very well said! If i was to set up an experiment in this direction for sure i would start with two primaries in an open flux system. Or else the transformer effect would affect the result.

Turbo
Perhaps oxidation worked as an insulation. Tesla was using varnish for this task. You have less losses this way. And/Or, oxidation worked for him as a source of extra electrons.

In your attached circuit you need very low imbedance i guess in the middle line or else i would add two diodes to prevent the flow from one source toward the other.
 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ARMCORTEX on September 20, 2019, 01:17:36 PM
Let’s see what you can do Turbo, you certainly talk like you know this subject, but eventually you must walk.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 20, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
Very well said! If i was to set up an experiment in this direction for sure i would start with two primaries in an open flux system. Or else the transformer effect would affect the result.

Turbo
Perhaps oxidation worked as an insulation. Tesla was using varnish for this task. You have less losses this way. And/Or, oxidation worked for him as a source of extra electrons.

In your attached circuit you need very low imbedance i guess in the middle line or else i would add two diodes to prevent the flow from one source toward the other.
 

I learned that the oxidation works as a Diode.
So thats only one way.

MOSFET stands for Metal Oxide field effect transistor.
Their operating principle involves oxides.
You can also make solar panels with it.

I read somewhere that they used to build radios with rusty razorblades as a detector in times of war.
In that respect it could have some cathode like action comparable to the electron cloud around the cathode/heater in a thermionic valve.

These images i made are just for illustration purposes.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 20, 2019, 05:34:42 PM
I learned that the oxidation works as a Diode.
But as you wrote before, SM had used it also before the wire got oxidized and device was working without the need of a diode. Nice catch though! ;)
 
   
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 20, 2019, 08:55:27 PM
Yesss the trollls have arrived.
How wonderful.
Chet where are you.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on September 20, 2019, 09:13:08 PM
Ignoring the trolls works much better than feeding them.  If you ignore them they eventually get hungry and go somewhere else looking for food.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: e2matrix on September 20, 2019, 11:41:50 PM
This patent attached has Steven Marks name on it and lists him as being in Moraga, California which I believe is where he was located when all this hit the news.    Patents may not always be the best source for building as something is often hidden but this patent does appear to be the TPU.    The attached file had to be compressed with 7Zip to make it small enough to upload here.   Also needed to change the extension from "7z" to "zip" so if you have trouble unzipping it rename the extension to .7z
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 20, 2019, 11:49:27 PM
Sorry had to run down to NYC




“Arm “
I had asked Turbo about speaking with Stefan about him moderating here
He did not feel it would be necessary ?






Please be nice ?


But I will be calling him tomorrow about other things anyway ...too late now (timewise)


Big plans for this topic......

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 21, 2019, 12:23:05 AM
No thanks.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 21, 2019, 06:49:17 PM
 OK I did just speak with Stefan and have an appointment in about four hours or so to talk a bit more .
Hopefully things will get organized over here and not so much noise


 Turbo
 thank you for your contributions and tolerance
 ( corrected... voice texting is a nuisance.. still traveling in New York City area for the next day )


 I believe moderation will be put in place to keep this topic focused .





Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 22, 2019, 10:31:07 AM
Steven used bailing wire which is magnetic. I suppose it is iron wire.
If DC passes trough bailing wire and magnetize it, would that coil become electromagnet?

In Tesla time core of transformers were iron.
Producing voltage spikes when switched on.
They were not laminated.

Is there connection between iron core and bailing wire in TPU?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 22, 2019, 10:55:41 AM
Steven used bailing wire which is magnetic. I suppose it is iron wire.
If DC passes trough bailing wire and magnetize it, would that coil become electromagnet?

In Tesla time core of transformers were iron.
Producing voltage spikes when switched on.
They were not laminated.

Is there connection between iron core and bailing wire in TPU?

Iron or copper coils both becomes an electromagnet.
But the iron stays magnetized after you remove the power supply and copper does not.

Some posts were removed.
This time we are going to be specific.
We do not want a topic where the info from old model builds are mixed in with the new model builds.
This is done to keep confusion as low as possible and to prevent research journals from jumping all over the place.
If people want to continue their research based on the older speculative model builds they can directly use the appropriate topics.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 22, 2019, 12:38:24 PM
Iron or copper coils both becomes an electromagnet.
But the iron stays magnetized after you remove the power supply and copper does not.

Some posts were removed.
This time we are going to be specific.
We do not want a topic where the info from old model builds are mixed in with the new model builds.
This is done to keep confusion as low as possible and to prevent research journals from jumping all over the place.
If people want to continue their research based on the older speculative model builds they can directly use the appropriate topics.

Why then copper is not used as core of transformers in Tesla days?

They used iron core. When transformer was switched on, there was cases that workers been killed, burned.
My point is, maybe is core source of kick.
Today we suppress that with lamination.

If we extend iron core as a wire, maybe effect can be amplified and used.

That was my thought. I didnt mean to deflect you from topic.
If it is that so, I will remove my post.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 22, 2019, 01:28:29 PM

We do not want a topic where the info from old model builds are mixed in with the new model builds.

Cool.  ;)

SM:
"...The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves and the
multiple kicks become a combined big kick
"

But what a kick really is?
Kick, is a current of high pottential and of a brief duration. In other words, kick is a current, with an increased rate of change during a short interval of time.
Now what combination of multiple kicks means for SM?

My very first thought was that more than one kicks coinside together during the same small interval of time. "Occasionally" as SM described. But this is the inside of the box thinking. How the out of the box thinking would be for this case?

ps. Please don't think out of the box all together the same time. There is always the danger of being locked out of it. ;D Jeg
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 22, 2019, 09:04:00 PM
Just to remind of pictures SM/Mannix gave to only a few members. But they are only just to gave an idea .
https://postimg.cc/23xN40Lv (https://postimg.cc/23xN40Lv)
https://postimg.cc/Wt7th62Y (https://postimg.cc/Wt7th62Y)
https://postimg.cc/8sdtK5Gf
https://postimg.cc/rzC21MYQ
https://postimg.cc/nMYMX8Kt
https://postimg.cc/5YGwnv85
https://postimg.cc/7bnyNy3p
Think of it in the way Otto did build it but two rings of same size. If Otto did know this picture, I don't know. Only Mannix could answer it to whom he gave it .


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 22, 2019, 10:42:46 PM
Just to remind of pictures SM/Mannix gave to only a few members. But they are only just to gave an idea .
https://postimg.cc/23xN40Lv (https://postimg.cc/23xN40Lv)
https://postimg.cc/Wt7th62Y (https://postimg.cc/Wt7th62Y)
https://postimg.cc/8sdtK5Gf
https://postimg.cc/rzC21MYQ
https://postimg.cc/nMYMX8Kt
https://postimg.cc/5YGwnv85
https://postimg.cc/7bnyNy3p
Think of it in the way Otto did build it but two rings of same size. If Otto did know this picture, I don't know. Only Mannix could answer it to whom he gave it .

Thank you for pictures!

Do you have any information does the pictures originate from SM or that coils were made by Mannix instructed by SM letters?

Anyway, thanks!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 23, 2019, 04:56:26 AM
gentlemen,
supposing that one day at some point this device can be replicated ... how could the overheating problem be solved? Would it still be viable?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on September 23, 2019, 11:45:35 AM
gentlemen,
supposing that one day at some point this device can be replicated ... how could the overheating problem be solved? Would it still be viable?


Could you possibly use some peltier modules to convert the heat into more electricity.  Or maybe liquid cooling with very small tubing included in the build.  In industry in the old days large heat producing transformers were submerged in non-conductive oil to keep them cool and help prevent the break down of the insulation.


PS: Thanks for cleaning up the thread.  It makes it much easier for those of us that aren't familiar with the TPU to follow the discussion and learn from it.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 23, 2019, 12:22:54 PM
Hi Angel,

It is 2019. SM is oldtimer. Today tech maybe can solve lots of things.
But problem is nobody knows what was causing overheating.
In worse case you can use 2 devices sequentally, so one is always cooling down.

SM worked with speakers. Speaker use magnet and coil to move membrane.
My quess is he was using electromagnet in his device. Electromagnet can cause heating if it has solid iron core or wire.
But heating can be caused by numerous things. It is quess.
So, my first experiments will go in direction how inductors and transformers behaive in field of electromagnet or how can be combined with electromagnet.
I dont expect much, but that will be first step.

Interesting story of SM is transformers in Tesla times.
They were massive transformers with massive solid iron core.
At the first switch on, lightning can happen from core, killing the workers.
Later that was solved with lamination of cores, and didnt happens any more.
If the solid iron core can produce lightning, small solid iron core will at least show some kick on scope. I can not make massive iron core transformer like it that time, I can make small one.

That will be second thing to investigate and experiment with.
I dont have idea what else I could try in case of TPU.
Everything else was tried by the more advanced researchers here.

And, as you can see. There is no more people interested in TPU anymore.
All of this are just theory. What really caused TPU to tick I dont know.

I read his letters to Mannix and think about what SM said. Maybe he wasnt honest? Who knows?
The only start you have, and I, is that he worked with speakers.
So, how to make solid state speaker which produce more power than consume?

As I said, this is only my quess where to start and what to look into, and what can be cause of extra power.

So, everything is just best quess.
I dont wanna to copy and make some devices which others did, not before I find what caused more energy in device.

There is a good chance I want find anything.
Thats why we are here to talk what or which can be cause.

Turbo attached good pdf of SM at post 1.
I have another, so if you have time, read them again and try to find clues.
I will be interested to hear what you think after reading SM statements.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 23, 2019, 12:23:40 PM
Thank you for pictures!

Do you have any information does the pictures originate from SM or that coils were made by Mannix instructed by SM letters?

Anyway, thanks!
As far as I know they are orgin from SM given to Mannix to spreed them to some members only. They had to keept them away from public to prevent SM from going in trouble with authorities.
It was somehow tested but unsuccessful. They have tried but in vain, because everyone has their own imagination and interpretation of what is to be seen.
Everyone builds something different then.What SM said?
Quote from: SM
You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils.
or this
Quote from: SM
Imagine that you have a cannon which fires a projectile at a velocity of
1000 miles an hour.
The amount of energy held in the moving projectile until converted is lets
say a figure of ten.
It will never become more then our figure of ten.
The energy will slowly dissipate until the projectile slows and begins to fall
to the ground and it's finale dissipation will occur when it strikes the earth
or the object it was aimed at.
Now, we have been told that there will never be more energy available
from the projectile other then what was given to it when first fired into the
sky, EXCEPT for the following example:
Now, there can be a further dissipation of energy if the projectile was
carrying a charge of dynamite to explode on impact as well.
Do you see how the different things all relate here?
Let me expand your mind for a moment....
Suppose that the projectile which you fired was another cannon?
Now you have another cannon traveling at 1000 miles an hour...
Now, if you could fire the second cannon, the projectile coming from it
would be traveling at a velocity of 1000 miles an hour after being fired.
However, since the cannon is already traveling at a speed of 1000 miles
an hour when you
fire it, the speed of the second fired projectile is essentially now 2000
miles per hour and the energy available to convert from the second
projectile, is now twice the ten available from the first projectile!
You now have energy availability of twenty to convert from the second
projectile.
Now, what if the projectile fired from the second cannon were another
cannon and you fired it.
Since the second cannon is traveling at 2000 miles per hour then the
projectile you fire from it would make 3000 miles per hour, and so on and
so on....
The energy released from the speed of multiple projectiles increases the
energy available to be dissipated upon impact many fold!
The faster the speed of ANYTHING the more energy will be available for
conversion.
And now look to the way he shows the winding. In my view It might be related to it.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kolbacict on September 23, 2019, 01:18:26 PM
Quote
So the amplitude of the two merged waves is 2a. However the energy of the two merged waves is (2a)^2 = 4a^2. Before the waves merged there were two waves each having a^2 energy = 2a^2. But after they merged you have 4a^2 energy. So you have doubled the energy by merging the two waves.
It’s like in the case of kinetic energy  mV2/2 ,which quadratically depends on the speed ?
In my drawings with spiral paths?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 23, 2019, 01:45:42 PM
As far as I know they are orgin from SM given to Mannix to spreed them to some members only. They had to keept them away from public to prevent SM from going in trouble with authorities.
It was somehow tested but unsuccessful. They have tried but in vain, because everyone has their own imagination and interpretation of what is to be seen.
Everyone builds something different then.What SM said?or thisAnd now look to the way he shows the winding. In my view It might be related to it.

Yes, on first look it appears that way.
3 coils wrap around collector coil.
Red, orange and black. And there is one iron wire as well. Could be act as core if frequency is high.
Their combined field will squeze collector coil.

"If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving."
Does he means that is pulsed DC in all 3 coils wound arround collector will push electrons in one way? Classic induction.

"You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well."
Does he means the point on collector where all 3 coils, fields combined squeeze the collector?
Another way to move electrons by squeezing. It is not classic induction???

Now, the second thought after your post and looking at picture is connecting  collector back to 3 coils in mobius loop, so output will pass again trough 3 coils around collector feeding collector even more.
So, you need to pulse only one coil to start the avalanche.

I watched YT of TinManPower experiment with that kind of wraping where those 3 coils does not affect source, collector coil.
Whatch it! The core TinManPower used is toroid. It has removed part of toroid, it is seen in another video of his.
It wont work if toroid is whole.
It showed that output does not affect input with wraping like this.
The iron wire on picture can serve as small core if frequency is high.

https://youtu.be/2BfDo5A3Gx8

https://youtu.be/41ZkWUC-zbQ

But its only wild quess looking at this picture and thought!
Have to try to wrap something like this and try and scope to see what happens?
SM said that he does use different kind of induction. Could be this.

Lots of if? But talking is good. Can give some idea.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 23, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
These pictures are wrong.
They show interleaved coils.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 23, 2019, 05:33:43 PM
Cool.  ;)

SM:
"...The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves and the
multiple kicks become a combined big kick
"

But what a kick really is?
Kick, is a current of high pottential and of a brief duration. In other words, kick is a current, with an increased rate of change during a short interval of time.
Now what combination of multiple kicks means for SM?

My very first thought was that more than one kicks coinside together during the same small interval of time. "Occasionally" as SM described. But this is the inside of the box thinking. How the out of the box thinking would be for this case?

ps. Please don't think out of the box all together the same time. There is always the danger of being locked out of it. ;D Jeg

Its safe to say that these kicks are a result of the process and that these kicks deliver more energy then it took to generate them.
Possibly it is nuclear.

Quote

Dr. Schinzinger pointed out that during an atomic explosion aside from the gigantic blast wave and heat produced there is also an extremely large magnetic force which is so
strong that it travels way out into space during the explosion.
The magnetic wave is so strong that it will completely destroy any unprotected electronic circuits of solid state design.
That is why solid state radios will be useless after an nuclear attack on your country.
Let us ponder where the huge magnetic field comes from when you explode an atomic bomb.
It is just created?
Is it converted?
Is it part of the earth somehow?
Is it just a by product of the fabric of time and space being ripped into pieces in a fragment of a second?

I am curious as to where this unbelievably huge magnetic force comes from during an atomic explosion...
It is something else to think about perhaps in connection with my power technology.

Dr. Schinzinger said that it is explained as being the result of the splitting of the atom.
However, that is a very short explanation and not really a satisfactory explanation of what generates the force.
He agreed with me and said it would also mean that in reality we know very little about magnetic fields and magnetic property.


Even Steven admitted that he didnt have a clue about where the energy came from.

Quote
I mean we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field.
We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice.
However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from.
I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point.
And it isn't really important at this juncture.
All we can do is build bigger and better power units and continue our experiments till we do know for sure exactly what we are dealing with.
This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him.

I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea
how the violin worked.


It's not really important (currently) to know where it's coming from but knowing how to generate it is.
And also how to control and loop it.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 23, 2019, 07:26:35 PM
These pictures are wrong.
They show interleaved coils.

Hello Turbo!

Do you know anything about this pictures or where they came from?

It seems that you have much more informations that I have.
Can you share your knowledge?
What is wrong with this coils from picture? Are they originate from SM?
How the coils has to be arranged?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: forest on September 23, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
The energy probably comes from Earth magnetic field. SM mentioned it at least twice.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 23, 2019, 09:04:07 PM
As far as I know they are orgin from SM given to Mannix to spreed them to some members only. They had to keept them away from public to prevent SM from going in trouble with authorities.
It was somehow tested but unsuccessful. They have tried but in vain, because everyone has their own imagination and interpretation of what is to be seen.
Everyone builds something different then.What SM said?or thisAnd now look to the way he shows the winding. In my view It might be related to it.

I have been reading all these documents and trying to follow more or less the coordinates that you are giving me ...
It seems that there are different ways to make this work in the form of a small toroid ...

Impressive after so many years this kind of thing has not been released to be reproduced ... In addition to the problem of appearing investors in the future would also be to find good professionals who are reliable and who could be committed to results without taking advantage of the values ​​invested. ..

I thought I'd start with a simple toroid to see if I can get any measurable output ...

There are many metaphorical tracks left in these documents that you can put in the right direction if interpreted correctly ...

I have magnetite powder here and I was tempted to mix it with some resin to create a device seen in these other patents ... But I'll still start with the basics ...

1. As I understand the higher the number of wires in the collector the better for electron pickup .... I am using AWG 34 wire so that the number of turns and number of wires will be significant to answer the control coils .... The thread is so small that each layer looks like a ribbon ... I am making several layers to create only one collecting bobbin, be patient ....

2. The control coil I thought of doing in the Swatooth waveform.

3. For the spacing between one coil and another had a kind of insulating plastic that was in a box that came along with some equipment I bought in the past ...

It seems that the output can be rewired in the input so that the device is powered and also using capacitors, etc ... But this I ask later ...

I accept criticism and suggestions to improve or even redo whatever it takes according to the perception of what you are observing ...

thankful!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 03:55:59 AM
Hello Turbo!

Do you know anything about this pictures or where they came from?

It seems that you have much more informations that I have.
Can you share your knowledge?
What is wrong with this coils from picture? Are they originate from SM?
How the coils has to be arranged?

Thanks!

No they are not coils from SM.
Those are very wrong in design.
They aren't on top of each other neither vertically nor horizontally because they are interleaved.
Too bad people keep injecting garbage into the tread.
You can use the searchable pdf file to find how its arranged.
Use search terms as collector and control and coils.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 03:58:57 AM
I have been reading all these documents and trying to follow more or less the coordinates that you are giving me ...
It seems that there are different ways to make this work in the form of a small toroid ...

Impressive after so many years this kind of thing has not been released to be reproduced ... In addition to the problem of appearing investors in the future would also be to find good professionals who are reliable and who could be committed to results without taking advantage of the values ​​invested. ..

I thought I'd start with a simple toroid to see if I can get any measurable output ...

There are many metaphorical tracks left in these documents that you can put in the right direction if interpreted correctly ...

I have magnetite powder here and I was tempted to mix it with some resin to create a device seen in these other patents ... But I'll still start with the basics ...

1. As I understand the higher the number of wires in the collector the better for electron pickup .... I am using AWG 34 wire so that the number of turns and number of wires will be significant to answer the control coils .... The thread is so small that each layer looks like a ribbon ... I am making several layers to create only one collecting bobbin, be patient ....

2. The control coil I thought of doing in the Swatooth waveform.

3. For the spacing between one coil and another had a kind of insulating plastic that was in a box that came along with some equipment I bought in the past ...

It seems that the output can be rewired in the input so that the device is powered and also using capacitors, etc ... But this I ask later ...

I accept criticism and suggestions to improve or even redo whatever it takes according to the perception of what you are observing ...

thankful!

I see you made another modification to the script.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 04:03:08 AM
The energy probably comes from Earth magnetic field. SM mentioned it at least twice.

If you answer like this please post the exact reference.

Like this:
 
Quote
I mean we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field.
We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice.
However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from.
I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point.
And it isn't really important at this juncture.
All we can do is build bigger and better power units and continue our experiments till we do know for sure exactly what we are dealing with.
This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him.

I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea how the violin worked.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 24, 2019, 04:41:09 AM
Just a note,Turbo has been at this for a long time ,he is not a newbie and has put more time into this than
can be measured .
As Turbo has mentioned .... today the tools to play [system management] are better than ever before and cheap too.we are also trying to get a funding method here for builders.
Also  members here are trying to get some important "bits" which may shed more light.
In the mean time ...Turbo has a very cogent direction ,from years of reverse engineering and hands on testing and experience.
exciting times indeed.
Turbo feel free to remove any inaccuracies in my post [or the whole post if?]also if you could remove or try to remove my test topic here https://overunity.com/18337/new-board-test/msg539226/#new [it may cause confusion]
if not ...no worries
much gratitude from here,
  Chet K, PS, there are certainly PLENTY of talented TPU fellows in the house...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 12:21:29 PM
"About the collector:
 It is three separate coils of  multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. "

The collector coils are on top of the other.

Three is important.
 You can do many things  with three coils.  You can run them  in parallel, you  can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc
.

You can run a separate  frequency into each coil  for  better control on large power units if need be.
Is this mean that only one frequency is used, but separate frequency can be used in each coil?

The control wiring is vertically  wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.  Other control  wires are wound around all  of  the  horizontal collector coils together.
Here, the collector coils are horizontal?

First, the 3 collector coils are on top of each other, then collector coils are horizontal?
It makes no sense. How this arrangement looks like?

It also indicates only one frequency for all 3 coils? Separate frequencies can be used if needed?

I am little bit confused with this arrangement.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: tomd on September 24, 2019, 12:40:03 PM
Quote
Well as soon as I get my amp finished I will let you know if I have any
more problems with it.
But I like the sound and the power of it already.
Take care.
Sincerely,
By the way.
I have really THOUGHT about how to help you and the others.
I can not tell youtoo much about the design of the technology because the
company
who still owns the technology is reading my every word, as you know and
just waiting
to cut off my pension if I tell you too much.
BUT!
I want you to start and think of the generator principles the exact
same way that passing the sound barrier was accomplished.
Read how the engineers in this country finally developed the proper wing
design to accomplish super sonic speed in aircraft.
I hope it will give you a picture of what is going on inside the generator
and especially the collector.
Imagine that you have a cannon which fires a projectile at a velocity of
1000 miles an hour.
The amount of energy held in the moving projectile until converted is lets
say a figure of ten.
It will never become more then our figure of ten.
The energy will slowly dissipate until the projectile slows and begins to fall
to the ground and it's finale dissipation will occur when it strikes the earth
or the object it was aimed at.
Now, we have been told that there will never be more energy available
from the projectile other then what was given to it when first fired into the
sky, EXCEPT for the following example:
Now, there can be a further dissipation of energy if the projectile was
carrying a charge of dynamite to explode on impact as well.
Do you see how the different things all relate here?
Let me expand your mind for a moment....
Suppose that the projectile which you fired was another cannon?
Now you have another cannon traveling at 1000 miles an hour...
Now, if you could fire the second cannon, the projectile coming from it
would be traveling at a velocity of 1000 miles an hour after being fired.
However, since the cannon is already traveling at a speed of 1000 miles
an hour when you
fire it, the speed of the second fired projectile is essentially now 2000
miles per hour and the energy available to convert from the second     projectile, is now twice the ten available from the first projectile!
You now have energy availability of twenty to convert from the second
projectile.
Now, what if the projectile fired from the second cannon were another
cannon and you fired it.
Since the second cannon is traveling at 2000 miles per hour then the
projectile you fire from it would make 3000 miles per hour, and so on and
so on....
The energy released from the speed of multiple projectiles increases the
energy available to be dissipated upon impact many fold!
The faster the speed of ANYTHING the more energy will be available for
conversion.
A long time ago, i said, if you take a bullet and throw it at the side of an
automobile it
will bounce off.
However, if you place the bullet into a gun and fire it at the automobile it,
with sufficient velocity, go through the metal door and through the other
side because of the inertia energy available for conversion.
Speed is energy if you can convert the mass into energy quickly
enough!
Anything no matter how small can store enough energy to convert
into huge amounts of energy.
Even electrons.....................................
Now, electrons can travel only so fast along the surface of the wire
because of magnetic flux.
What if you disable the effects of the flux?
My unit operates on these principles.

Is he talking about wave superposition or more appropriately pulse superposition?


Quote
If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too
much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage.
[/size]


Is this why the voltages are slightly out of phase considering the energy produced if the waves are in phase?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 12:50:49 PM
each segment of control coils could be fed a different frequency individually  and or from a collector section to help  perpetuate the oscillationand control.

Here it said that control coils can be fed from collector coils?
Loop?
Another frequency from collector to control?

So many frequencies.
Or they are not different frequencies at all?
Only one?

I am trying to read this and make sense from all of that SM statements.
I dont know!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 12:52:46 PM
At one point he is feeding frequencies into colector coils.
At another he is feeding frequencies into control coils?

???
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 24, 2019, 02:39:54 PM
1) Is he talking about wave superposition or more appropriately pulse superposition?


2) Is this why the voltages are slightly out of phase considering the energy produced if the waves are in phase?

tomd
1) That was my first thought. Three pulses the same time same direction. It would be a nice strating point.

2) By using beat frequency, phase changes all the time. At one moment and depending on the beat, both frequencies eventually align themeselves and both kicks are the one over the other. But there is also the third coil. I can't visualise how it would perform an action of this kind and what araingement needs for this.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 02:50:23 PM
At one point he is feeding frequencies into colector coils.
At another he is feeding frequencies into control coils?

???

Okay Whatisit you are making a lot of noise i have posted some explanations many years ago and i have updated them for you so that you can read it and understand a little bit more about how this all came to be.

I will re-post it for you to see if it can be of any assistance to you to help you to understand the process.

Here it is :

The first frequency generates the kicks.

What are the kicks ?

The kicks are a burst or release of high energetic particles in random directions.
These kicks are generated by a process that i have so far called 'stimulated nuclear transmutation'
Some difficult words, maybe, but don't walk away yet i can explain it in simple terms.
 
Alternating magnetic fields running at certain specific frequencies can alter nuclear conversion between the elements thereby releasing energy.
In the early transformer experiments, Steven hit on a NMR frequency of the iron transformer core, which in turn started to release massive amounts of kicks.
These kicks were released perpendicularly away from the core and were all flying away at high speed and in random directions.

This is what Steven observed in his very first experiments and he rightfully called them kicks.
This was not very efficient as such, but Steven indeed discovered and identified this as the bare-bone effect.

Notice this has got nothing to do with the earths magnetic field, but how on earth could he know what was going on?
So the earths magnetic field was his first thought as it would be mine, It's a pity most people still hold on to the old dream.

Okay back to the explanation:
Steven then discovered that when he run the transformers slightly out of phase, he could maximize the effect.

After he discovered the kicks, he was immediately facing a new problem because in those early experiments these small energy bursts were launching electrons away from the emitting iron cores in perpendicular lines, in random directions and he found it was hard and in-efficient to extract any real energy in coils by means of classical induction....,until he began to run the transformers slightly out of phase.
He noticed it made a difference when there was one transformer coil powered whilst the other generated the effect.

Thus he somehow figured out that a strong magnetic field was needed to force all of the chaotic radiated electrons in a straight line through a coil as soon as they were generated/released from the core.
This is somewhat similar to what a yoke does to control the electron beam in a CRT television tube.
And he knew how to do this, his education at the tv repair shop served him very,very well.

So, now this process is explained as follows:

The first frequency generates the kicks.(in random directions... chaos)

The second frequency energizes one of the (control) coils, right after the kicks are generated.
Because the kicks are high energetic (electron) particles, they will deflect when they enter/interact with the strong field created by the (control) coil that is energized by the secondary frequency.

This strong field will force all high speed electrons into ONE DIRECTION. <-- AND THIS is important ! (squeezing the hose)

This is called 'Combining hundreds of thousands of little kicks into one big current kick . . .'

So at this point we have 'rectified' or 'redirected' all of the kicks into one direction and this is the point where we fire the third frequency.

The third frequency creates another strong magnetic field (or pulse) and this deflects (or dumps..) the high energetic electron beam back into the collector coil, thereby generating the 'big current kick' Steven writes about in his memoirs.

So as such, the control coils are used to deflect the high energy particles and force them into one direction, and they are also used as a means to an end, to collect the energy into the collector coil(s).

I hope this helps you to understand the role the control coils play in the process.

Lets say these 3 events are called one cycle:

Generate - Deflect - Collect

It is possible (and likely) that Steven used permanent magnets to deflect these high energetic electron particles, in his early/first devices.
In that respect you could drop the 'tunnel' or secondary frequency, or if your setup/design is really clever, perhaps also the third... but that boils down to design.

Soon Steven developed mechanisms of using feedback involving multiple receiving coils in a way that he started the reaction from a power supply and then he extracted the energy from the first coil and used this energy to establish the strong needed electron deflecting magnetic field for the second coil and so on to the third and you guessed it, from the third to the first and now things started to look quite interesting...
He kept improving the designs and this eventually led to the famous videos everyone wants to know more about.
So here you have it, i hope it helps.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 03:14:10 PM
Hi Turbo,

Yes it helps.

Thank you for explanation!
I will read your old posts and try to catch up.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 24, 2019, 05:56:10 PM
No they are not coils from SM.
Those are very wrong in design.
They aren't on top of each other neither vertically nor horizontally because they are interleaved.
Too bad people keep injecting garbage into the tread.
You can use the searchable pdf file to find how its arranged.
Use search terms as collector and control and coils.
Turbo, if you know it so good, where this picture is coming from and what do you know about them?You mean what is mentioned in the pdf file comes all from SM? Who was drawing the arrangement of the coils?

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 06:37:04 PM
Turbo, if you know it so good, where this picture is coming from and what do you know about them?You mean what is mentioned in the pdf file comes all from SM? Who was drawing the arrangement of the coils?

Not where it's coming from but that it is incorrect yes i am sure of that.
Those pictures are the worst ever, they follow the old model and do a very bad job at it.
What is mentioned in the pdf compilation files is the combined communication over email between Steven and Mannix.
These are not made up and it is VERY EASY to show why these coils you posted are wrong so i suggest you start reading.
Because something tell me that you haven't read it thoroughly enough.
I know you was around in the early days and i was surprised to see you dump that garbage into this thread.
I was wondering why did he do that.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 24, 2019, 06:40:11 PM
"About the collector:
 It is three separate coils of  multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. "

The collector coils are on top of the other.
If you were observed, would you say it frankly how it is made?

Quote
Three is important.
You can do many things  with three coils.  You can run them  in parallel, you  can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.
Here starts the difficulty too many possibilities.

Quote
You can run a separate  frequency into each coil  for  better control on large power units if need be.
Is this mean that only one frequency is used, but separate frequency can be used in each coil?

The control wiring is vertically  wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.  Other control  wires are wound around all  of  the  horizontal collector coils together.
Here, the collector coils are horizontal?
As I said already above, he did not say it frankly. If you compare it with TPUs in the videos, then how it will be?

Quote
First, the 3 collector coils are on top of each other, then collector coils are horizontal?It makes no sense. How this arrangement looks like?
Can you see?

Quote
It also indicates only one frequency for all 3 coils? Separate frequencies can be used if needed?
I am little bit confused with this arrangement.
That's it. He had to be careful with what he says.
You know, I've been following it from the start, but then there was a time when members left this forum and went into a new one and not everyone had access there. These members were then allowed to learn something more. I was the one which ask SM if they tried it also south of the equator and it seems he was surprised someone would ask it.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 06:42:46 PM
Wherever it's coming from it's garbage so that place must also be and now i think of it, i probably know where it's coming from.
Could you do me a favor and make sure it stay's there ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 24, 2019, 06:49:00 PM
Wherever it's coming from it's garbage so that place must also be and now i think of it, i probably know where it's coming from.
Could you do me a favor and make sure it stay's there ?

Thanks.
I will not remove it but for sure is this picture where made in CA.
https://postimg.cc/sBGf5hDC
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 07:00:09 PM
This is both horizontal and on top of each other.
Except for the fact that the first method was confirmed to have incorrect winding relationship.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 07:05:06 PM
I will not remove it but for sure is this picture where made in CA.
https://postimg.cc/sBGf5hDC

So what do you want to say exactly ?
It is from California so it has to be correct ?

Clearly it is wrong on multiple levels.
Who made it doesn't change anything about that.

Are you trying to say Steven made those ?
Why would he wrap something that contradicts it's own writings ?

I don't buy it.

And it doesn't matter at this point in time.
You could probably get some juice out of it if you use the control winding as a yoke and slam the collector with the correct atomic frequency.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 24, 2019, 07:15:56 PM
Do you think he would cut it so easy with a jigsaw if made in that way? And does it look like to rings seen in the open TPUs?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 07:30:53 PM
Do you think he would cut it so easy with a jigsaw if made in that way? And does it look like to rings seen in the open TPUs?

This is not the correct place for speculation maybe that other board is ?

'looks like' this and 'looks like' that just isn't going to do it.
That has proven to be an endless loop.

I just wrote down exactly how its done.
And its very easy to verify my words.

So besides the fact that speculation leads nowhere, it isn't even necessary.
I already posted the solution way back in 2012
But it was rather quickly buried under a flood of garbage and speculation.
I walked away.

Seven years later i checked the OU.com site and i noticed that member crashangel was looking for info on the matter.
So i decided to put in some more words, to try and help, but here we are, once more ready to be buried.

I just hope that maybe some people will see the light and read back some of my posts and experience the AH-HA ! moment they search for and so desperately need to push them in the right direction.
I also hope that they won't get scared away, when they realize the true colors of the technology and will approach it with caution.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: forest on September 24, 2019, 07:56:25 PM
Turbo
Can you be precise in your statements ? Can you correct me ?

1) 3 control coils one on top of the other (circular rings each of smaller diameter) are used to create effect of radiation of "particles" which Otto described

2) 3 collector coils , each one around one control coil

3)  one collector coil on everything

collector coils are output coils and catch "particles"
is that the correct description ?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 24, 2019, 08:36:33 PM
Turbo
Do you know what is the material that releases the electrons in sm's devices? A closed loop iron wire in parallel in between the collectors? Like in the photo above?

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 09:00:18 PM
Turbo
Do you know what is the material that releases the electrons in sm's devices? A closed loop iron wire in parallel in between the collectors? Like in the photo above?

About radiated particles and catching them.

Poyint posted this Otto doc I never saw before.
Interesting read!

Maybe that picture above and Turbo are same principle?

Both catching radiated particles.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 24, 2019, 09:06:33 PM
Turbo
Do you know what is the material that releases the electrons in sm's devices? A closed loop iron wire in parallel in between the collectors? Like in the photo above?

About radiated particles and catching them.

Poynt99 posted this Otto doc I never saw before.
Interesting read!

Maybe that picture above and Turbo are same principle?

Both catching radiated particles.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
Turbo
Can you be precise in your statements ? Can you correct me ?

1) 3 control coils one on top of the other (circular rings each of smaller diameter) are used to create effect of radiation of "particles" which Otto described

2) 3 collector coils , each one around one control coil

3)  one collector coil on everything

collector coils are output coils and catch "particles"
is that the correct description ?

1. No not 3 control coils on top of the other.

It's 3 Collector coils on top of each other with control coils wound around each of the collector coils.
I would advice to firstly find the basic effect and once you understand that, scale it up,  just like Steven did it.

2.no it's the way around.
its 3 Collector coils with control coils around each.

3. the way around.
3 collector coils with control coils around each, and with control coils around all of them combined.

This is the ultimate design, a cyclotron,  its not the preferred choice to start with.


Again, the easiest way is to find the most basic effect and then try to scale it up by generating this basic effect inside of a strong magnetic field/ 'control' coil.
This can be on constantly like in a DC field, that is ok it just means that you start off with a very inefficient  setup.
Or you can use a magnet so that you don't have to worry so much about it but your way of working has to have a specific meaning to it.
You know what you are doing and why you are doing it at all times.

Step 1. Generate the kicks.
Which coil ?
Collector Coil.
How ?
Feed a Atomic resonance frequency into 'collector coil' 
Kicks will start to emit perpendicularly out of the 'collector coil',  the basic effect.

(fe56 will transmutate into fe54 giving up excess electrons)
Want to SEE kicks ?  click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFVZU2YwwJ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFVZU2YwwJ4)


Description:

Quote
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio.
The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.
You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain.
It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it.

Step 2. Deflect these kicks into one direction to maximize potential on impact.
Which coil ?
Control Coil. (or permanent magnet)
How ?
Controllable DC feed, or slightly out of phase  / harmonic feed on the 'control coil' that is wound around the 'collector coil'
The field has to be strong just after the kicks are released to force them into direction to maximize potential upon impact.
The field strength is critical, too much will act as a break and prevent them from moving, too little and they will just fly through and out of your control coil.

Description:

Quote
You see, one little kick amounts to nothing.
However imagine if you had hundreds of thousands of little kicks combining into one big current kick . . .

Step 3. Collect.
Which coil?
Collector coil (and Control Coil.)
How?
If you made it here, you will know what to do, the next steps will follow naturally.
Deflection, again, but this time not to force direction but to force an END to it by dumping all of the available energy into the collector coil by a stronger magnetic pulse,  timings are critical and if correct you will observe the 'Big Kick'

Description:

Quote
The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort.
They are only a means to achieve an end.
The multiple frequencies begin to feed themselves and the multiple kicks become a combined big kick.
I call it resonating.

So you know what to do, and how to do it.
Above all be safe.
You are working with radiation and it can harm you.
A perfectly tuned collector will keep most of the stuff inside, because most of the energy will be confined in the magnetic fields and converted into heat and electricity.

Not so when you are working on tuning a system where the kicks will fly all over the place.
I can recall day's where my eyes used to hurt badly, much like 'welders eyes' if someone is familiar with that, and it just didn't dawn upon me that i was constantly blasting my head and eyes with kicks, or better said, Cathode Rays.
 
I won't recommend building the entire thing at once.
Just start simple and take it one small step at a time, because its close to impossible to get all the necessary elements perfectly right the first time.
If you start with the basic bare bone effect the small kicks that amount to nothing, and then succeed to combine them into one big current kick, your are already in the Goldilocks zone.

My prediction is that the next decade, most appliances will be nuclear powered.
You will simply go to the store and buy safe and small 'nuclear grade' iron fuel rod's just like you buy batteries today and plug them into your devices.
The big difference is that these fuel rods last a very ,very long time.
You won't have to refuel or charge your car or cellphone, ever.

I also thought it was a bit IRONic to conclude that we replace and throw out old batteries when we think that they are depleted, while their iron shell holds enough energy to still deliver a million fold in nuclear electricity, then what the cell just had produced by chemical means....
Talking about throwing out the baby with the bathwater  ::)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 24, 2019, 11:11:21 PM
Turbo
Do you know what is the material that releases the electrons in sm's devices? A closed loop iron wire in parallel in between the collectors? Like in the photo above?

Iron at first and apparently later he found how to do it with other materials too.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 25, 2019, 07:45:16 AM
Turbo
Thanks a lot for the directives. Much apprciated. ;)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: rensseak on September 25, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
This is not the correct place for speculation maybe that other board is ?

'looks like' this and 'looks like' that just isn't going to do it.
That has proven to be an endless loop.
You have no answer to my question and then become aggressive.
Quote from: Turbo
I just wrote down exactly how its done.
And its very easy to verify my words.
Then show us your working TPU.

Quote from: Turbo
So besides the fact that speculation leads nowhere, it isn't even necessary.
I already posted the solution way back in 2012
But it was rather quickly buried under a flood of garbage and speculation.
I walked away.
With your nickname you are registered 2013 (https://overunity.com/profile/turbo.79442/).

Quote from: Turbo
Seven years later i checked the OU.com site and i noticed that member crashangel was looking for info on the matter.
So i decided to put in some more words, to try and help, but here we are, once more ready to be buried.

"Giantkiller or Bruce-TPU" are also sure to know how it works and how it should be wrapped. They were very active with replica but without success.
Quote from: Turbo
I just hope that maybe some people will see the light and read back some of my posts and experience the AH-HA ! moment they search for and so desperately need to push them in the right direction. I also hope that they won't get scared away, when they realize the true colors of the technology and will approach it with caution.
If you are so convinced of it, then show your TPU.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on September 25, 2019, 12:36:54 PM
 Just to add that i am going to build a cage from lead. All those years i was firing ferromagnetic materials with HF HV without knowing exautly what the implications would be to my health. Many times i had head pains during experimentation ignoring all this ferro emissions. Perhaps i will enclosed lead inside wood so to avoid touching it with bare hands. I hope that everyone understood now that this researching area has a lot of dangers due to ignorance.

Regards
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 25, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
rensseak, it is easy to fight here ....if you have a path forward and disagree with Turbo's MO ?start a new topic and present "your" thoughts .
if you are looking to "talk" in hopes of finding a path forward ?
 maybe that is a separate topic ?
The MO which Turbo has postulated is most definitely a source of unimaginable energy
Is it possible within the boundaries of the TPU ? that would truly be remarkable .
Here there are those who will drop the tools for fear of the unknown , and here there are those who Hunt this [NMR NAR] and would embrace the chance to learn a possible simple path towards ...transmutation .....
even just to make/harvest excess heat ...or energy....







 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on September 25, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Hi Turbo,


Have you read the paper by Wm. R. Lyne called Free Energy Surprise?  In it he describes some experiments where iron was subjected to high voltage AC current.  The result was a large excess current was produced which was much greater than the input power.  It appears the use of iron has some interesting effects.  The paper is copyrighted so I can't attach it here.  I posted this because of the talk about using iron wire for the cores of the TPU.  If you feel it is too far off topic feel free to delete this post.


Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 25, 2019, 05:34:46 PM
Gentlemen, today what happened to SM? It's alive? still work? retired?


When is it said that SM used iron wire in the TPU instead of copper wire? on a control coil or pickup? sorry for my ignorance...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 25, 2019, 09:19:39 PM
Gentlemen, today what happened to SM? It's alive? still work? retired?


When is it said that SM used iron wire in the TPU instead of copper wire? on a control coil or pickup? sorry for my ignorance...

 I think iron wire is mentioned in this doc, look at page 5, chapter 11).
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 25, 2019, 09:35:45 PM

"Giantkiller or Bruce-TPU" are also sure to know how it works and how it should be wrapped.

This is the biggest joke right.
Please stay with them !
My God you couldn't be further from the truth.

Gentlemen, today what happened to SM? It's alive? still work? retired?

When is it said that SM used iron wire in the TPU instead of copper wire? on a control coil or pickup? sorry for my ignorance...

I do not think he is alive anymore.

There is the first video where he states that the device is put together with bailing wire, this is usually iron.
There is also written confirmation but i haven't been able to relocate that just yet.
In any case if you use it then it will be the source of your kicks.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 25, 2019, 09:44:42 PM
Hi Turbo,


Have you read the paper by Wm. R. Lyne called Free Energy Surprise?  In it he describes some experiments where iron was subjected to high voltage AC current.  The result was a large excess current was produced which was much greater than the input power.  It appears the use of iron has some interesting effects.  The paper is copyrighted so I can't attach it here.  I posted this because of the talk about using iron wire for the cores of the TPU.  If you feel it is too far off topic feel free to delete this post.


Respectfully,
Carroll

The technique or effect, could be tied into many inventions.

For example the Hubbard transformer, Albert Hubbard had painted his coils with radium paint, the radioactive glow in the dark paint and used magnetic fields to deflect the radiation over his coils and used it to power a small boat.

Or the famous Tesla demonstration where they drove the car around, i had read about 'metal rods' and tube oscillators...

Maybe even Ed Gray's inventions, without him knowing it.

Or Moray's device, an array of transformers and, tubes.

The only one i found where the device is directly utilized though is the Michel Meyer Mace device, which also uses an iron core and 3 coils.

There will most certainly be many more.


I have already posted what i wanted to convey in this thread,  now everybody is free to analyze it and especially to verify it ,or pick another direction that is fine with me.
But i am not going to enter into playing games, and i want to make it clear that i do not owe anything to anybody , so i wish all of you the best of luck.
Personally i do not believe in luck anymore, i mean in the meaning of the word, because i discovered that luck is created, it is the product of hard work.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on September 25, 2019, 09:51:30 PM
Hmm, Steven Marks TPU : with iron wire. ?
If I do remembering me right more than ten years before there was to read about a " special material mix wire"( patented  ! Nobody found this patent in the official archives !)

Probably a help :
https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity.com+sm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity.com+sm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://tpupower.net/pdf/newbie-faq.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwimpvqO3uzkAhVQ6RoKHQg4ANgQFjAIegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2HL2OF86IeplPpnQ9F8Ucj (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://tpupower.net/pdf/newbie-faq.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwimpvqO3uzkAhVQ6RoKHQg4ANgQFjAIegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2HL2OF86IeplPpnQ9F8Ucj)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 26, 2019, 06:59:50 AM
Hmm, Steven Marks TPU : with iron wire. ?
If I do remembering me right more than ten years before there was to read about a " special material mix wire"( patented  ! Nobody found this patent in the official archives !)

Probably a help :
https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity.com+sm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity.com+sm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://tpupower.net/pdf/newbie-faq.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwimpvqO3uzkAhVQ6RoKHQg4ANgQFjAIegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2HL2OF86IeplPpnQ9F8Ucj (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://tpupower.net/pdf/newbie-faq.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwimpvqO3uzkAhVQ6RoKHQg4ANgQFjAIegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2HL2OF86IeplPpnQ9F8Ucj)

OK guys , Turbo, understood ...
Thank you for giving me the coordinates and tips that will facilitate my years of study and research in this field of work ...

Gratitude!!!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: icarus on September 26, 2019, 08:41:37 AM
Hi Turbo. A few posts ago you wrote:

>Alternating magnetic fields running at certain specific frequencies can alter nuclear conversion between the elements thereby releasing energy.
>In the early transformer experiments, Steven hit on a NMR frequency of the iron transformer core, which in turn started to release massive amounts of kicks.

Do you think Steven used iron resonance frequency, ie 3.2MHz?
Or knowing his background (music reproduction, audio frequencies) do you think of sub-harmonics of this frequency?
I can't see him tinkering in the 90s with MHz frequencies.
What do you think about it ?

Thanx

Icarus
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 26, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
OK guys , Turbo, understood ...
Thank you for giving me the coordinates and tips that will facilitate my years of study and research in this field of work ...

Gratitude!!!

Hi Angel,

Nobody knows how TPU works. It is not by induction, thats for sure.
I got few PM which indicates that members are starting to fight even they are working on similar things.
Which is not good.

My thought is that talk helps and fight will only burry everything.

After reading all this posts and many TPU docs I came to conclusion like Turbo and Otto and many others that perpendicular force is source of TPU power.
How to produce that force and how to catch it is the question?

I believe that force can be produced on many ways, some more efficient than others.
Every memeber has its own idea how to do it and there is no need for fight.

I been reading Otto doc and come to idea that saturation of transformer core can cause emitting.
In and out from saturation.

Otto has been catching it with one coil. If he used 3 coils like Turbo design it, maybe he was have a chance for better catching.
Otto was using small transformer easy to saturate. When he used bigger things changed.
But that is only idea after reading Otto doc.

In Tesla times they used Edison generators with iron core. At first switch HV spike for a brief moment saturate iron core which in process killed workers.

The picture posted earlyer shows iron wire. One iron wire will saturate easily and come back from saturation easily and emitt.

This is only idea and I am free to attack me for that idea. I expect it.

Members should talk and not fight!

What happens when iron core saturate? Does it have too much spare electrons in its field cloud?
What saturation means? More magnetization that core can accept? Only that?

Armcortex, you are right! If somebody states something, he should show scheme and measurements.

Turbo, you are also right! If you give people everything, they dont want to bench and do the work by themselfs.

And Gyula, you are wise and patient as always.

At the end, I dont know which ticks in TPU, I can only guess!
Angel, you should follow your work. It is not wrong. It is just a path to the end.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on September 26, 2019, 10:01:21 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=otto+roberto+tpu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=otto+roberto+tpu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://docp (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://docplayer.org/103574544-Tpu-ecd-energy-conversion-device-energkonverter-offenlegung-von-otto-sabljaric-roberto-notte.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiGtNqRge7kAhUDAGMBHaayBX0QFjAEegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3y_tKnIvRsOrmfRYjmQ8JP)
layer.org/103574544-Tpu-ecd-energy-conversion-device-energkonverter-offenlegung-von-otto-sabljaric-roberto-notte.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiGtNqRge7kAhUDAGMBHaayBX0QFjAEegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3y_tKnIvRsOrmfRYjmQ8JP (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://docplayer.org/103574544-Tpu-ecd-energy-conversion-device-energkonverter-offenlegung-von-otto-sabljaric-roberto-notte.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiGtNqRge7kAhUDAGMBHaayBX0QFjAEegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3y_tKnIvRsOrmfRYjmQ8JP)
Special Points :
DTO from Floyd Sweet
https://www.google.com/search?q=dto+floyd+sweet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=dto+floyd+sweet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
"new Maths for new laws"

Schumannfrequenz

"over-heating": negative to positive ,application dependant :
https://newatlas.com/gold-melt-room-temperature/57327/ (https://newatlas.com/gold-melt-room-temperature/57327/iron/copper)
Iron/copper melts with room temperature

Tesla : e= tcv2  electro-magnetic element decay acceleration
https://www.google.com/search?q=superconduction+thermal+shock&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=superconduction+thermal+shock&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_pair (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_pair)

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:World_line-de.svg (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:World_line-de.svg)
https://www.google.com/search?q=white+holes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
The combination from wite and black holes effect as "power unit" or " incubator unit"
mass to energy.    energy to mass         energy = .......... New Definition for New treatment
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 26, 2019, 11:00:16 AM
I have something on my mind.

SM worked with speakers.
He replaced permanent magnet with electromagnet.
By varying electromagnet, injecting noice he was trying to get spatial sound.

What is worst case scenario in that?

If core of electromagnet saturate and desaturate quickly, how will it sounds on that spatial sound speaker?
Trying to solve this, what he will see on scope?

His TPU is like radio. Tuning frequency to saturation point maybe?
And then catching what is emitted from core of electromagnet?
If electromagnet saturate and stay that way it destroys source. Too much frequency.
So he constantly must be near saturation region. Then small pulses to go into saturation and out.
If frequency is too low, no saturation, no emitting.
Radio.
DC bias for near saturation point plus AC ? (or DC pulses?) to go into saturation and out.

HV spikes can saturate and desaturate core quickly, causing core to emitt.
How to catch it? With lots of coils like Turbo design around emitting core.

How many of you experienced PC frooze while working with certain cores and frequencies? Why is that?
Loop back trough wall socket? Or something was radiated from core?

Just a thought!

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on September 26, 2019, 11:27:41 AM
I have something on my mind.

SM worked with speakers.
He replaced permanent magnet with electromagnet.
By varying electromagnet, injecting noice he was trying to get spatial sound.

What is worst case scenario in that?

If core of electromagnet saturate and desaturate quickly, how will it sounds on that spatial sound speaker?
Trying to solve this, what he will see on scope?

His TPU is like radio. Tuning frequency to saturation point maybe?
Just a thought!

Yes it is tuning to a saturation point but not the core in magnetic field line means because this is magnetic over driving at the atomic level.

The surrounding magnetic field has a dampening effect on the center frequency.

In simple terms realize that there is a vibration to this at the atomic level.
The frequency is related to the atomic mass, so its different for every element.
This is how spectroscopy works, identifying the element by its frequency.

Now the electrons that supposedly circle the nucleus also respond to (external) magnetic fields.

If these fields are strong, these electrons can not vibrate with the same amplitude than without the external field, because this external field tries to hold them in place, which acts like a break, and so as a result, the center frequency goes up.
If there is no external field, then this vibration has a slight link to the earths magnetic field because then that is the only dominant external field that acts a force upon them.
In these examples i am talking about a strong external field that is constant, so its not oscillating.
The resulting frequency is also called the magnetic moment or, Larmor precession frequency named after Joseph Larmor.

Now imaging what happens when you put in an oscillating electromagnetic field at the same frequency (or harmonic) that they are already vibrating.
This is the center frequency.
You can think of this as actually feeding them energy in their own phase. (yet again: pushing the kid on the swing, but this time at the atomic level)

In stead of the vibration being dampened, Now it is growing and becoming stronger.
So strong that these electrons gain so much kinetic energy that they can escape their atomic bond and launch out of the collnductor.
These flying electrons are the kicks.

This is the same thing that happens in a vacuum tube around the Cathode heater, the electrons are forced or boiled off and enter the electron cloud that exists around the Cathode, in that cas the heat feeds the vibration.
The difference is in that example we are using a brute force technique, we supply so much energy, in a closed loop, to create intense heat, to cause the same event.

Can you see a link to the heating problem here ?
But realize this, in a vacuum tube the heat is generated deliberately and up front to free electrons, while in the TPU it is actually the way around, the heat is generated when the electrons make their impact back upon the collector to release their energy in the form of the big kicks...  in that sense it (the heat) is an inevitable part of the process and some of you this should should ring a bell.

I hope you will understand that a more targeted approach, of freeing electrons, using a supply at the center frequency, of course requires very, much less energy then the vacuum tube heater, because you are supplying the energy in resonance with the target system/circuit.


Ok so then after being liberated, they then enter the magnetic field of a control coil and are bend down the track to eventually impact the collector with hundreds or thousands of other these liberated electrons.

I mean its really not that hard to understand ?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on September 26, 2019, 12:22:12 PM
No it is not hard to understand.
You did much more experiments than I did.
Even my thought on core saturation is something I did not tried. It was thought after reading that doc of Otto.

One thing is clear.
Mean to radiate and mean to catch that is core of TPU.

I agree.
Your way is new area for me and I have to read about it, yet.

So, get back to read and learn, then I can say something more.
For now I am just trying to walk!

And constructive talk like this is good.
Through posts like this people can learn and get new ideas or made better.
No attacking and no need to defend.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on September 26, 2019, 01:27:19 PM
https://de.scribd.com/document/268124569/VTA-Vacuum-Triode-Amplifier-Construction-by-Floyd-A-Sweet (https://de.scribd.com/document/268124569/VTA-Vacuum-Triode-Amplifier-Construction-by-Floyd-A-Sweet)
Weight, temperature, fast Impulse, vortex, minimum demand,.....

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
"..... Investigation relative to..... "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1#)
75 gr.  Ferrit permanent magnet sufficient for 1 KW permanent power output
coil arrangement and formula conditioning

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_magnetoresistance (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_magnetoresistance)  "forbidden"  ::)
Yes, a good link :
https://www.google.com/search?q=larmor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=larmor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
superconductor "thermal shock" versus "Barkhausen effect" : what happens in the "Weisssche Bezirk or Domaene"/Bloch wall

 Curie-temperature                                         Neel temperature. 

Negative Curie-temperature                         Negative Neel-temperature

Curie- frequency  ?                                          Neel-frequency ?


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2943189A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19600628&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2943189A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19600628&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
original document page 2 ,line 15-20

1x dipole :                        power output. ?

2x dipoles connected  : power output ?

3x dipoles connected :  power output  ?
Mono, bi, tri

A.  not linear increase,numerical saturation
B.  ergo : dipoles-group array

Citing documents :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=2943189A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19600628&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=2943189A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19600628&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)


Thinking in multi-nano-TPU-array like : http://www.rexresearch.com/zaymidor/zajmidor.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/zaymidor/zajmidor.htm)

These links only for understanding the internal/external physical non-/ linear actio/reactio process and not as  reproduction scheme


Floyd Sweet electricity kind compared to https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021121&CC=US&NR=2002171299A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021121&CC=US&NR=2002171299A1&KC=A1#)
Il-logical or Paradox or unknown  !?

Superconduction and his anti-pole : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superinsulator (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superinsulator)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 26, 2019, 03:56:23 PM
Bruce
 We have never spoken.... not for lack of trying on my part


 You are a man of faith ,  surrounded by a world with a great need
Please explain to us what part of you justifies withholding such a life-saving world changing technology


 How many more Christmases will pass ? how many more persons will suffer or Die ?
Do you have a number in mind? Or allowable extinctions ? Or pollution levels ?


Who Will you point the finger at ? and blame for those deaths , losses and that suffering


Or the Choking of our air and polluting of our planet
 this technology will change all of that

 Here we open source with a mission ....see Stefan‘s mission statement


 Here men toil and make great sacrifices for decades... see Stefan‘s mission statement



Onto whom so ever much is given much is required!


Moderator
Sorry to runoff your topic but this man is a conundrum to me ...and makes no sense to me at all.


 I see these interruptions as Taunts  and “hiddin” claims of success from a “man of faith” even more so .after all its not a knitting class or a cooking forum....
here Turbo has shared enuff for some very cool  experiments in a field which has Tonnes of interest [and builders]

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kolbacict on September 27, 2019, 07:27:04 AM
Is a rotating transformer from a VCR ( DRUM) suitable for winding TPU ?
There is a cavity inside where you can put the winding.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on September 27, 2019, 07:53:04 AM
Bruce
 We have never spoken.... not for lack of trying on my part


 You are a man of faith ,  surrounded by a world with a great need
Please explain to us what part of you justifies withholding such a life-saving world changing technology


 How many more Christmases will pass ? how many more persons will suffer or Die ?
Do you have a number in mind? Or allowable extinctions ? Or pollution levels ?


Who Will you point the finger at ? and blame for those deaths , losses and that suffering


Or the Choking of our air and polluting of our planet
 this technology will change all of that

 Here we open source with a mission ....see Stefan‘s mission statement


 Here men toil and make great sacrifices for decades... see Stefan‘s mission statement



Onto whom so ever much is given much is required!


Moderator
Sorry to runoff your topic but this man is a conundrum to me ...and makes no sense to me at all.


 I see these interruptions as Taunts  and “hiddin” claims of success from a “man of faith” even more so .after all its not a knitting class or a cooking forum....
here Turbo has shared enuff for some very cool  experiments in a field which has Tonnes of interest [and builders]

No problem for me ... I have not read all the publications every year completely to keep track of how this story has been unfolding since the beginning but I am in favor that when something manifests in us seeking to favor a good bigger is always better to let these intentions manifest ... It is generating movement that we advance and evolve throughout the world ... and Forums of discussion are not made for it?  ;)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on September 27, 2019, 02:38:10 PM
crashangel, I agree.

I once read ,"if you want to change the world,"Be" that change" .

 Live by example .

This man Turbo is one schmart Cookie [as they say in the Bronx [big compliment]
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on September 30, 2019, 11:27:22 PM
Ramset
Quote
Bruce
We have never spoken.... not for lack of trying on my part
You are a man of faith ,  surrounded by a world with a great need
Please explain to us what part of you justifies withholding such a life-saving world changing technology
How many more Christmases will pass ? how many more persons will suffer or Die ?
Do you have a number in mind? Or allowable extinctions ? Or pollution levels ?
Who Will you point the finger at ? and blame for those deaths , losses and that suffering

This is not the way my friend and it is this kind of attitude which created all our troubles in my opinion.
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."... Wisdom.

You obviously have questions so why not ask them?. If your question and your intent is truly sincere then you may find someone who will give a sincere answer. So what is it you would like to know?.

Regards



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on October 01, 2019, 12:05:42 AM
Sir, You seem a sincere man  ,unfortunately Bruce made posts and removed them .so there is no context to my response.[since he seems to have admin moderator powers here perhaps he could remove all posts......responding to him too ?
Icky stuff indeed.

Perhaps a sincere question to you ?
if you had a Device that could save countless lives ,clean our air ,our oceans and insure our Children a path to a much brighter future ... where they could have the privilege to chose a different path...one free of all these consequences
what would you do ? [see Stefan's mission statement for what I would do ,and hopefully others who toil here.

Kind regards  , Chet K
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: poynt99 on October 01, 2019, 04:38:51 AM
It was tao that created that particular pic.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: tomd on October 01, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
Just a by the way. The three collector coils are arranged horizontally - not vertically as described in that picture.

https://overunity.com/17172/a-simple-question-about-tpu-replication-attempts/msg501932/#msg501932 (https://overunity.com/17172/a-simple-question-about-tpu-replication-attempts/msg501932/#msg501932)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on October 01, 2019, 11:57:37 AM
Guys, I was reading all these documents that you shared here and once again I am thinking of rebuilding my device before starting to perform the control tests ... I saw that SM probably used iron wires on their TPU. .. I am thinking of doing this that surely will get a kick with higher powers and it seems that this was what gave that feeling of movement like a sander as I read in one of the previous posts ...

Now my question is, did SM use iron wire on the 3 pickup coils and the 3 controller coils?
Would those stainless steel electric wire fence reels fit this?

Could this be a plausible path?  ::)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: e2matrix on October 01, 2019, 05:52:47 PM
I think you'd probably want iron wire.   I heard of using coated green garden wire (often used for tying up plants).  I'd avoid stainless steel wire which is mostly non-magnetic.   
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 01, 2019, 07:16:11 PM
Guys, I was reading all these documents that you shared here and once again I am thinking of rebuilding my device before starting to perform the control tests ... I saw that SM probably used iron wires on their TPU. .. I am thinking of doing this that surely will get a kick with higher powers and it seems that this was what gave that feeling of movement like a sander as I read in one of the previous posts ...

Now my question is, did SM use iron wire on the 3 pickup coils and the 3 controller coils?
Would those stainless steel electric wire fence reels fit this?

Could this be a plausible path?  ::)

Iron wire in the early models.
It's better if you first find out why and how before continue because like i said you have to use meaning in your research.
You have to know why you do what you do.
Otherwise its just one more useless coil and we wrapped so many of them.

If you use this type of wire the specs are as follows:

There are four naturally occurring isotopes of iron:
Isotope | Abundance
54Fe, 5.845%
56Fe, 91.754%
57Fe, 2.119%
58Fe, 0.282%

amu or atomic mass unit:

 Iron-54 has a mass of 54 amu, Iron-56 is 56 amu, Iron-57 is 57 amu, and iron-58 is 58 amu.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on October 02, 2019, 12:07:23 AM
I think SM nailed it when he said nobody is going to throw this together and make it work without first having some idea how it could work conceptually.

SM made some comments I thought were interesting
Quote
The kick is universally atributed to the earth's magnetc feld.  OK the point is; YOU CAN GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF THE EARTH!  Next point; YOU CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH A WIRE TO SHOW THIS.

I would simply rephrase what SM said -- "YOU CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH A WIRE TO GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF THE EARTH".

This was interesting however I also remember SM mentioning that the control input and the collector output both showed up on the load. So the input does something to the collectors then both the input and collector output drive the load?. To many I suspect this means very little as normally they believe the input is somehow consumed but here SM implies it is not.

If A is the input and B is the collector output then the power output to the load is actually A+B. If the output is A+B then why not use B to power the load and simply recycle A back to the input to repeat the next cycle?. As such it would seem to me that the logical place to start would be to 1) figure out how to get some energy from the Earth with a wire and 2) how to use the input in such a way that it always adds to the output.

Regards

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on October 02, 2019, 08:24:44 AM
...
 2) how to use the input in such a way that it always adds to the output.


Hi 1pwr
It might be something simple like in Floyd's drawing.

Regards
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 02, 2019, 10:22:22 AM
I think SM nailed it when he said nobody is going to throw this together and make it work without first having some idea how it could work conceptually.

SM made some comments I thought were interesting
I would simply rephrase what SM said -- "YOU CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH A WIRE TO GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF THE EARTH".

This was interesting however I also remember SM mentioning that the control input and the collector output both showed up on the load. So the input does something to the collectors then both the input and collector output drive the load?. To many I suspect this means very little as normally they believe the input is somehow consumed but here SM implies it is not.

If A is the input and B is the collector output then the power output to the load is actually A+B. If the output is A+B then why not use B to power the load and simply recycle A back to the input to repeat the next cycle?. As such it would seem to me that the logical place to start would be to 1) figure out how to get some energy from the Earth with a wire and 2) how to use the input in such a way that it always adds to the output.

Regards

I'm going to rephrase it in a different way.

"YOU CAN DO SOMETHING NUCLEAR WITH A WIRE TO GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF IT".

He admitted that he didnt know where it came from, he also admitted that they thought it was the earth's field because it was the obvious choice, he then wrote that there is a nuclear connection, this happened after someone from the atomic energy commission actually told him how it worked.

Please read the whole thing and not just half of it because you need a complete picture.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on October 02, 2019, 02:25:17 PM
Turbo,To most who have been paying attention ,it is quite apparent that energy is locked up in every single piece of our reality ,there is no such thing as "still ".. all is in motion and always has been,Here on this Rock you can not see or touch or breathe anything which is not in "perpetual motion"

Your path towards harvesting energy from this "perpetual motion" should be self evident
to most who pay attention ,that is to say ...we're surrounded by Batteries or energy stores  of unimaginable potential.
plenty will play here and not question your reasoning .

There are some very serious experimenters chasing other "claims" which have come to the same conclusion as you .////
A big task is Managing the control circuits to do this...[this is all a moving target]
and you have pointed out "time has changed things" ,the systems to manage this are available now at ridiculous prices and availability .
 and your suggested "magnetic cage" to contain/control things...[magnetic field ?very nice piece of information .
and for clarity ,Transmutation as a source/path to Cheap power ,indescribable power.
 Tremendous gratitude here.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: icarus on October 02, 2019, 03:12:30 PM
Turbo,
over the years I have built so many tpu attempts: as I all have my toroid cemetery.
In the end the impression has always been to build inefficient transformers.
And at that point, after years of TPU saga, I stopped caring about it.
Until I saw a "Creating TPU Steven_Mark" thread and started reading everything again.

Your nuclear theory is a point of view that makes sense and could explain everything.
The clues you have given us are numerous and precise, but to start we must at least know from where.
So, the fundamental information: the kicks.
How can we measure them, see them, understand that we have released them?

I don't think with an oscilloscope: if they are high-energy particles, it is more likely with a geiger counter.

What do you think about it?

Finally, the question that no one dares to ask you: where do you stand?
Did you succeed? You're okay or this thing in the long run has somehow damaged you,
in the physical or in the mind?

Thanks  for your patience and generosity
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 02, 2019, 03:34:54 PM
Steven had to be able to answer 'NO' to the question does it contain any batteries.
This meant he had to improve the design to a level where it could power itself.

That's quite the turn of events when you analyse it.
The feedback makes the thing so dangerous.

He called it a furnace which feeds itself, the hotter it gets, the more fuel it gives itself to burn.

You can think in terms of chain reactions.

You can have a sub critical mass, a critical mass, and a super critical mass.

So lets look at these.

A sub critical mass does not have the ability to sustain a chain reaction.
A critical mass is able to sustain a chain reaction.
In A super critical mass the chain reaction will proceed at an increasing rate.

There is a quote in the doc:
Quote
the only thing that will stop a red collector is the disintegration of the matter acting as a receiver. IE. the wires all burn up.

This is not to say that is is not possible to create a device that is safe and that does not have the dangers of the runaway event but one that has to be powered in a different way as in the feedback mechanism will have to be either removed entirely, or modified to the extent where no direct feedback loop is present.

Lets say the iron wire is at a sub critical state.

And it moves to a critical state when the sub atomic sub harmonic frequency is applied.

Sub because these atomic frequencies are way too high to generate, but you can use a lower frequency.
This is like pushing a kid on a swing, but only pushing the swing 1 out of five swings.
If you make sure that your push is strong enough, and contains enough energy, you can still power the swing with an increasing result.
Also remember that the target frequency can be altered by using a bias field.

Only when there is a direct feedback loop, will there be concern for a runaway event.
So that state is super critical, because there is no limiting factor.

Unfortunately the design with the 3*3 coils is the one that is so dangerous because of the direct feedback loop.
So this is why i advised to start with the basic effect,
It can be as simple as
Two coils and a magnet, and one frequency.

I would also want to refer to the carl doc.

Quote
1. When one builds a bifilar coil, using one winding for power, and one for trigger, and drive this with a transistor, there is a certain point, when you bring a magnet close to one end of the coil, you will get a loud squealing noise from the coil.
This feedback is the result of the trigger and power coil constantly switching the power transistor used to drive that coil off and on again.
It is also a point where that coil/transistor combination produce a high voltage output which one can gather from the collector of the transistor.
If left unchecked, this resonant frequency of on/off switching will burn up the transistor, and thus a resistor must be put into the trigger winding circuit to lessen the voltage produced in the winding.

So now this boils it down to two coils and a magnet and a transistor,
That is 4 parts and a power supply or battery.
It's not exactly bifilar in the same plane, but think tunnel, CRT beam, aerodynamic wing design.

The meaning in this experiment is to understand that:
* There could be a point where the frequency interacts with the electrons at the atomic level,
* Feeding them energy in their own phase,
* So that they gain kinetic energy.
* And break free from their bonds.

And that:
* The magnet is used to force them into a specific path, combining their kinetic energies.
* The magnet is also used to control the frequency.

Do you think this experiment is difficult ?

Two coils and a transistor ?

I was just waiting for one of these joule thieve enthusiasts would hit on something but it just never happened.

I'd recon the idea of the microphone that is too close to the speaker.
Everybody knows the sound of the high pitch whine that will arise.
The air between the mic and the speaker starts vibrating and the input can 'hear' the output.
And this is a type of feedback loop that is comparable in a sense that the 'frequency starts to feed itself'.
Itself, and not themselves, because there is only one in this SIMPLE experiment.
That is, until you hit the center frequency, and then you have two frequencies to work with.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Grumage on October 02, 2019, 04:33:12 PM
Hi Turbo.

Indeed not.

I originally joined OU.Com, under another name in 2008. Back then, heavily into the work of John Bedini.

Using his famous SSG circuit I got the effect you mention by offering a second coil and Ceramic magnet towards the bifilar sense and drive coil. The arrangement literally " squealed " audibly.

I also remember a video at the time where the guy, doing the same as I did, was literally shouting
" this is OU " over and over again.

If NMR is the " source " of excess energy then a Geiger Muller counter is a must whilst experimenting. Don't forget that they are susceptible to HF/HV interference.

Cheers Graham.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on October 02, 2019, 04:59:35 PM
Turbo
Quote
I'm going to rephrase it in a different way.
"YOU CAN DO SOMETHING NUCLEAR WITH A WIRE TO GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF IT".
He admitted that he didnt know where it came from, he also admitted that they thought it was the earth's field because it was the obvious choice, he then wrote that there is a nuclear connection, this happened after someone from the atomic energy commission actually told him how it worked.

So your saying SM didn't know where the energy came from but believed a person who said the energy was nuclear in origin?. That's actually kind of funny because from my research I would guess well over 95% of the people who claimed to have a working FE device had literally no idea where the energy comes from either. This is why I like to keep my options and my mind open concerning these kinds of things because we don't know.

However conceptually, nuclear is just a fancy term to describe some small stuff breaking apart and releasing some energy in a universe full of stuff already in perpetual motion which is also energy. As such I don't think it's a big deal and as Richard Feynman said... there is enough energy in a cubic foot of empty space to boil all the worlds oceans. Strange isn't it?, there may be more energy in the empty space next to a nuclear process than that occurring within it.

In my opinion if we we are to keep a truly open mind we would also have to consider the alternate perspective to our blind materialism whereby space is the high energy state and matter the low energy state and not vice versa. Science would seem to be moving in this direction as well with the notion of dark matter/energy. Dark meaning we cannot see it not unlike the notion of an Electric Universe or the Aether. It would seem what was very old has become new again... once again repeating itself.

It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So... Mark Twain
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 03, 2019, 10:45:59 PM
Hi Turbo.

Indeed not.

I originally joined OU.Com, under another name in 2008. Back then, heavily into the work of John Bedini.

Using his famous SSG circuit I got the effect you mention by offering a second coil and Ceramic magnet towards the bifilar sense and drive coil. The arrangement literally " squealed " audibly.

I also remember a video at the time where the guy, doing the same as I did, was literally shouting
" this is OU " over and over again.

If NMR is the " source " of excess energy then a Geiger Muller counter is a must whilst experimenting. Don't forget that they are susceptible to HF/HV interference.

Cheers Graham.

You can make a geiger counter yourself it only involves a few components you need a high voltage source and a detector tube these are still widely available on used products sites as NOS new old stock and also some Chinese websites.

By the way it does not have to be a tube you can also build something like a spark chamber see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOtFIffQILw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOtFIffQILw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GlzUjYazs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GlzUjYazs)

Now it would be interesting to see if these kicks would also trigger the bifilar coil and transistor combo like the magnet does........
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 03, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Turbo
So your saying SM didn't know where the energy came from but believed a person who said the energy was nuclear in origin?. That's actually kind of funny because from my research I would guess well over 95% of the people who claimed to have a working FE device had literally no idea where the energy comes from either. This is why I like to keep my options and my mind open concerning these kinds of things because we don't know.

However conceptually, nuclear is just a fancy term to describe some small stuff breaking apart and releasing some energy in a universe full of stuff already in perpetual motion which is also energy. As such I don't think it's a big deal and as Richard Feynman said... there is enough energy in a cubic foot of empty space to boil all the worlds oceans. Strange isn't it?, there may be more energy in the empty space next to a nuclear process than that occurring within it.

In my opinion if we we are to keep a truly open mind we would also have to consider the alternate perspective to our blind materialism whereby space is the high energy state and matter the low energy state and not vice versa. Science would seem to be moving in this direction as well with the notion of dark matter/energy. Dark meaning we cannot see it not unlike the notion of an Electric Universe or the Aether. It would seem what was very old has become new again... once again repeating itself.

It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So... Mark Twain

Yes exactly he said it numerous times.

Quote
other place.
I mean we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field.
We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice.
However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from.
I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point.
And it isn't really important at this juncture.
All we can do is build bigger and better power units and continue our experiments till we do know for sure exactly what we are dealing with.
This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him.
I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea how the violin worked.

Quote
Let us ponder where the huge magnetic field comes from when you explode an atomic bomb.
It is just created?
Is it converted?
Is it part of the earth somehow?
Is it just a by product of the fabric of time and space being ripped into pieces in a fragment of a second?
I am curious as to where this unbelievably huge magnetic force comes from during an atomic explosion...
It is something else to think about.
perhaps in connection with my power technology.

Here is an example of (electro) magnetic deflection electrons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on October 04, 2019, 12:33:25 AM
Turbo
Quote
other place.
I mean we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field.
We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice.
However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from.
I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point.
And it isn't really important at this juncture.
All we can do is build bigger and better power units and continue our experiments till we do know for sure exactly what we are dealing with.
This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him.
I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea how the violin worked.

All they would have to do is place the device in a steel box ie. Faraday cage to exclude Earths magnetic field/EM signals and they would know. I mean this is high school science 101.

Quote
Let us ponder where the huge magnetic field comes from when you explode an atomic bomb.
It is just created?
Is it converted?
Is it part of the earth somehow?
Is it just a by product of the fabric of time and space being ripped into pieces in a fragment of a second?
I am curious as to where this unbelievably huge magnetic force comes from during an atomic explosion...
It is something else to think about.
perhaps in connection with my power technology.

This is strange as well, moving charges produce a magnetic field and a big explosion accelerating/compressing an absurd amount of charges in a small time frame produces a big magnetic field change. Granted an EMP weapon uses explosives to move the conductor carrying charge and it's associated magnetic field however the principal still holds. It does not matter how or why the charges are moved to produce a magnetic field change only that they do move. Again SM seems to be having a problem with what is routinely taught in high school science class. Hell my son made an EM disrupter and smoked a cell phone in grade 8 which isn't even classified as high school, lol.

In the end, at worst SM fits the standard profile of just another inventor who stumbled onto something they didn't understand and tried to turn it into a business for profit. It works until the environment goes to shit, the economy collapses, billions die a premature death and money becomes worthless... then it doesn't so much.

Regards
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on October 04, 2019, 08:29:57 AM
Quote from: Turbo link=topic=18325.msg539491#msg539491
Here is an example of (electro) magnetic deflection electrons: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqSode4HZrE[/url]

Great video for visualizing the effects. Thank you!

I wonder if spark detectors can also sense the beta radiation along with alpha as i think that this is the case here.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 04, 2019, 10:16:29 AM
Turbo
All they would have to do is place the device in a steel box ie. Faraday cage to exclude Earths magnetic field/EM signals and they would know. I mean this is high school science 101.

This is strange as well, moving charges produce a magnetic field and a big explosion accelerating/compressing an absurd amount of charges in a small time frame produces a big magnetic field change. Granted an EMP weapon uses explosives to move the conductor carrying charge and it's associated magnetic field however the principal still holds. It does not matter how or why the charges are moved to produce a magnetic field change only that they do move. Again SM seems to be having a problem with what is routinely taught in high school science class. Hell my son made an EM disrupter and smoked a cell phone in grade 8 which isn't even classified as high school, lol.

In the end, at worst SM fits the standard profile of just another inventor who stumbled onto something they didn't understand and tried to turn it into a business for profit. It works until the environment goes to shit, the economy collapses, billions die a premature death and money becomes worthless... then it doesn't so much.

Regards

You can't just judge someone or something on like he should have know this or they should have known that, because my 8 years old son or the textbooks.
That's not what we are doing here we are trying to verify and confirm things, not debunk them with whatever we can find to throw into the ring.
Keeping an open mind is essential in this process.
My advice to you would be to take your son's textbook and give him some wire to play with in stead.

By the way they did test it in a metal box and confirmed that it still operated as before.
The fact that you seem to think that a Faraday cage blocks the Earths magnetic field is disturbing.
Did you miss some day's at science 101 ?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 04, 2019, 10:21:24 AM
Great video for visualizing the effects. Thank you!

I wonder if spark detectors can also sense the beta radiation along with alpha as i think that this is the case here.

I guess anything that helps ionizing the air up to the point of breakdown will do that.
And if it's really a close gap or high tension possibly even UV light.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Cadman on October 04, 2019, 03:53:02 PM

I’m trying to get the gist of the method straight, and maybe learn something here.

As I understand what has been written there is a coil in the shape of a ring (coil #1) that has another coil wrapped around it (coil #2). Coil 2 has a dc current in it to create a magnetic field. This field in coil 2 is basically shaped like a round tube. Centered inside this magnetic tube is coil #1. When coil 1 is properly pulsed it emits electrons, which are confined inside the magnetic field (tube) of coil #2 and aligned with the direction of the field inside #2. Then coil 2 is pulsed with a stronger current to drive the electrons back onto coil #1 and an increased current can then be taken from coil #1.

Is this correct so far?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Raycathode on October 04, 2019, 05:30:58 PM
Have you come across this video yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 04, 2019, 06:37:53 PM
I’m trying to get the gist of the method straight, and maybe learn something here.

As I understand what has been written there is a coil in the shape of a ring (coil #1) that has another coil wrapped around it (coil #2). Coil 2 has a dc current in it to create a magnetic field. This field in coil 2 is basically shaped like a round tube. Centered inside this magnetic tube is coil #1. When coil 1 is properly pulsed it emits electrons, which are confined inside the magnetic field (tube) of coil #2 and aligned with the direction of the field inside #2. Then coil 2 is pulsed with a stronger current to drive the electrons back onto coil #1 and an increased current can then be taken from coil #1.

Is this correct so far?

Very close.

Coil 2 is more oval or even a high rectangle shaped, because Coil 1 is not interleaved so the turns are wrapped in a specific way.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on October 04, 2019, 07:17:00 PM
Related #128 :
earth velocity in the planetary-sun radius  : 30 Km/ per second

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light)

300.000 Km/s

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weltderphysik.de%2Fgebiet%2Funiversum%2Fnews%2F2012%2Fschwarzes-loch-erzeugt-super-wind%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weltderphysik.de%2Fgebiet%2Funiversum%2Fnews%2F2012%2Fschwarzes-loch-erzeugt-super-wind%2F)
Wind ( 8888 Km/ s faster than earth rotation but slower than light. velocity !


When we remark astro-physical such differences how is quantum/nano-sphere actio/reactio velocity spread to ex(s)pect. !?
device cooling  : TPU in a fridge ( cryo- temperature : power density higher/ lower. ?)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on October 08, 2019, 10:05:06 AM
Turbo. your method for hunting ? seems the keys to the city !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL9pS6GMdA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL9pS6GMdA)
also shared By Magluvin
and a re post with a simple beginning [feel free to modify or ??
Turbo Quote,
Steven had to be able to answer 'NO' to the question does it contain any batteries.
This meant he had to improve the design to a level where it could power itself.

That's quite the turn of events when you analyse it.
The feedback makes the thing so dangerous.

He called it a furnace which feeds itself, the hotter it gets, the more fuel it gives itself to burn.

You can think in terms of chain reactions.

You can have a sub critical mass, a critical mass, and a super critical mass.

So lets look at these.

A sub critical mass does not have the ability to sustain a chain reaction.
A critical mass is able to sustain a chain reaction.
In A super critical mass the chain reaction will proceed at an increasing rate.

There is a quote in the doc:
Quote<blockquote> the only thing that will stop a red collector is the disintegration of the matter acting as a receiver. IE. the wires all burn up.
</blockquote>
This is not to say that is is not possible to create a device that is safe and that does not have the dangers of the runaway event but one that has to be powered in a different way as in the feedback mechanism will have to be either removed entirely, or modified to the extent where no direct feedback loop is present.

Lets say the iron wire is at a sub critical state.

And it moves to a critical state when the sub atomic sub harmonic frequency is applied.

Sub because these atomic frequencies are way too high to generate, but you can use a lower frequency.
This is like pushing a kid on a swing, but only pushing the swing 1 out of five swings.
If you make sure that your push is strong enough, and contains enough energy, you can still power the swing with an increasing result.
Also remember that the target frequency can be altered by using a bias field.

Only when there is a direct feedback loop, will there be concern for a runaway event.
So that state is super critical, because there is no limiting factor.

Unfortunately the design with the 3*3 coils is the one that is so dangerous because of the direct feedback loop.
So this is why i advised to start with the basic effect,
It can be as simple as
Two coils and a magnet, and one frequency.

I would also want to refer to the carl doc.

Quote<blockquote>1. When one builds a bifilar coil, using one winding for power, and one for trigger, and drive this with a transistor, there is a certain point, when you bring a magnet close to one end of the coil, you will get a loud squealing noise from the coil.
This feedback is the result of the trigger and power coil constantly switching the power transistor used to drive that coil off and on again.
It is also a point where that coil/transistor combination produce a high voltage output which one can gather from the collector of the transistor.
If left unchecked, this resonant frequency of on/off switching will burn up the transistor, and thus a resistor must be put into the trigger winding circuit to lessen the voltage produced in the winding.

</blockquote>
So now this boils it down to two coils and a magnet and a transistor,
That is 4 parts and a power supply or battery.
It's not exactly bifilar in the same plane, but think tunnel, CRT beam, aerodynamic wing design.

The meaning in this experiment is to understand that:
* There could be a point where the frequency interacts with the electrons at the atomic level,
* Feeding them energy in their own phase,
* So that they gain kinetic energy.
* And break free from their bonds.

And that:
* The magnet is used to force them into a specific path, combining their kinetic energies.
* The magnet is also used to control the frequency.

Do you think this experiment is difficult ?

Two coils and a transistor ?

I was just waiting for one of these joule thieve enthusiasts would hit on something but it just never happened.

I'd recon the idea of the microphone that is too close to the speaker.
Everybody knows the sound of the high pitch whine that will arise.
The air between the mic and the speaker starts vibrating and the input can 'hear' the output.
And this is a type of feedback loop that is comparable in a sense that the 'frequency starts to feed itself'.
Itself, and not themselves, because there is only one in this SIMPLE experiment.
That is, until you hit the center frequency, and then you have two frequencies to work with.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Cadman on October 08, 2019, 02:50:53 PM
Turbo,

Is this relevant? If not then crashangel, please delete this post. I don’t wish to mislead anyone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall-effect_thruster#Operation

 A radial magnetic field of about 100–300 G (0.01–0.03 T) is used to confine the electrons,
where the combination of the radial magnetic field and axial electric field cause the electrons to drift in azimuth
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 08, 2019, 10:07:35 PM
Turbo,

Is this relevant? If not then crashangel, please delete this post. I don’t wish to mislead anyone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall-effect_thruster#Operation

 A radial magnetic field of about 100–300 G (0.01–0.03 T) is used to confine the electrons,
where the combination of the radial magnetic field and axial electric field cause the electrons to drift in azimuth

This uses a propellant in the form of a gas. but the acceleration of ions in an electric field is there.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on October 10, 2019, 03:08:52 PM
Turbo, still working on collecting pieces for here.
One piece which shows solidarity with NMR theme ,from experimenter Partzman  below.
archive reference link  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg64595#msg64595 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg64595#msg64595)
as always, if any info inappropriate please remove or ?
will be calling another experimenter hunting Iron NMR in "Gray tube" experiments today , hopefully to participate here too.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on October 10, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
MRI/MRA to NMR to TMR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_magnetoresistance

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on October 22, 2019, 03:32:05 PM
just a note...for those who are not aware ,this topic or experimental direction is focusing on an MO
which was hinted at in the past..... NMR  and would seem a topology to manifest an "event"is well within grasp .and the experiments can be very small [tiny] at first.
 Chet
also a note to Lancaiv Please don't feel compelled to bury all the topics here with Reams of mysterious data.
Maybe count to............. a million ?  ...before pressing send or stay in your own boards Or ??
you buried the water fuel topic and Gunderson topic and others [which will hopefully be rebooted soon too.
note to moderator ,Delete if inappropriate . still working on Pieces........
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on October 22, 2019, 06:27:04 PM
just a note...for those who are not aware ,this topic or experimental direction is focusing on an MO
which was hinted at in the past..... NMR  and would seem a topology to manifest an "event"is well within grasp .and the experiments can be very small [tiny] at first.
 Chet
also a note to Lancaiv Please don't feel compelled to bury all the topics here with Reams of mysterious data.
Maybe count to............. a million ?  ...before pressing send or stay in your own boards Or ??
you buried the water fuel topic and Gunderson topic and others [which will hopefully be rebooted soon too.
note to moderator ,Delete if inappropriate . still working on Pieces........

Very nice this device ... It has a lot of information that can help in the development of the SM TPU with iron wires ... I will give one more research ...

Gratitude...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on October 22, 2019, 10:12:04 PM
Very nice this device ... It has a lot of information that can help in the development of the SM TPU with iron wires ... I will give one more research ...

Gratitude...

Of course you are not limited to using iron.
You can also use Aluminium wire or CCA Copper-clad Aluminium wire.

Note that Aluminium:
In 1934 J. Curie first succeeded in artificially producing phosphorus-30 by bombarding Aluminium with α-particles.
This was the first man-made radionuclide.
And it is radioactive, with a half life of 2.50 Minutes....
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on October 25, 2019, 01:58:40 AM
Of course you are not limited to using iron.
You can also use Aluminium wire or CCA Copper-clad Aluminium wire.

Note that Aluminium:
In 1934 J. Curie first succeeded in artificially producing phosphorus-30 by bombarding Aluminium with α-particles.
This was the first man-made radionuclide.
And it is radioactive, with a half life of 2.50 Minutes....


Hummmm  ;D

Now I felt firm !!!!
I have a hard time finding iron here in my region ....  :'(

but ask me a question ... what advantages would it have to use aluminum cable instead of copper cable? Is the conductivity of copper no better than aluminum? with aluminum I could not try to use magnets is not true?

Gratitude...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Jeg on October 25, 2019, 07:58:55 AM
what advantages would it have to use aluminum cable instead of copper cable?


Hi
In the triboelectric series list you will find that aluminum gives electrons more easily than copper. You can use it as a cable but also as a core. It is up to the exeperimenter.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on October 25, 2019, 04:44:59 PM
Ramset
Quote
just a note...for those who are not aware ,this topic or experimental direction is focusing on an MO
which was hinted at in the past..... NMR  and would seem a topology to manifest an "event"is well within grasp .and the experiments can be very small [tiny] at first.

In my opinion NMR is the wrong direction because most of the people who claimed it may be responsible for FE didn't have the capacity to understand or test whether it was or not. They most likely cherry picked a phenomena and said, oh this must be it which is not valid science.

A better and easier direction in my opinion is what SM implied was energy addition. SM said the input was added to the output... think about that. Most think the input is somehow consumed or used up however SM said the input shows up on the output. So if the input X is added to the output Y making the final output X+Y then what have we lost?... the answer is we lose nothing.

If the input X is 100% of the input energy and the output Y is equal to it at 100% then the COP is 2 or 200% efficiency. Now even if the total efficiency was only 80% with 20% losses the total output is still 160% of the input. So theoretically a device could have a total efficiency of only 51% and still be self-sustaining provided the input and output energy were combined.

Another important point is that SM said he was thinking about how one could add the input to the output prior to developing the TPU. Do you understand?, the concept of adding the input to the output was integrated into the working concept of the TPU. I have found the best place to begin replicating a device is at the beginning. To do the same basic experiments as the inventor which allowed them to gain the understanding to build a working device.

Regards



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on November 03, 2019, 05:34:39 AM
Hi guys, I finished my tpu today .... It was hard work ... I used a 26 AWG aluminum wire. SM said that multiple wires would do better so instead of putting multiple wires into one to make the collector I created a collector with multiple layers of coiled wires overlapping each other .... as the wire is too small and coiled in a tube of plastic looked like a tape ... after the several layers of tape on top of each other I organized the wires and soldered them to become a collector ... and so did the 3 collectors .... put a kind of foam rubber to separate each collector from each other in place of cork ....

Well, now I have 3 input coils, 3 output coils, 3 input collectors and 3 output collectors ....

I would like to know how would you connect the collectors? Leave it all in one collector? I put a diode in the output and then turn it back on the input or some capacitor? I put a diode in the collectors input?

I kind of got lost now ... if anyone can help it would be great !!!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Raycathode on November 03, 2019, 08:31:53 AM
Hi guys, I finished my tpu today .... It was hard work ... I used a 26 AWG aluminum wire. SM said that multiple wires would do better so instead of putting multiple wires into one to make the collector I created a collector with multiple layers of coiled wires overlapping each other .... as the wire is too small and coiled in a tube of plastic looked like a tape ... after the several layers of tape on top of each other I organized the wires and soldered them to become a collector ... and so did the 3 collectors .... put a kind of foam rubber to separate each collector from each other in place of cork ....

Well, now I have 3 input coils, 3 output coils, 3 input collectors and 3 output collectors ....

I would like to know how would you connect the collectors? Leave it all in one collector? I put a diode in the output and then turn it back on the input or some capacitor? I put a diode in the collectors input?

I kind of got lost now ... if anyone can help it would be great !!!

Thanks!
What is it you have built a ring of 9 volt batteries  ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on November 03, 2019, 01:06:49 PM
Dear Raymond the crumb dropping tormentor

Dropping crumbs or hints [elsewhere] intimating great knowledge...and then pokingfun here...
isn't there a Cat somewhere you should be beating ?
are you waiting for your favorite show and bored ?
moderator please remove [my post]... these guys who just taunt [for YEARS} or make excuses ...got old a long time ago.
there is something in the wind ,,,and if true ....open source will have its day.
and the hiding "know it alls" can choke on their crumbs !!
This is not a game ,people do die every tick of the clock ,species are perishing at almost the same rate ,our planet is turning into a cesspool of polluted crap. Maybe a few more oil wars ??
we can't fix this fast enuff !!
yeah I know...everything is fine at your house !!
please remove this post....these chicken turd excuse makers make me nauseous 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on November 03, 2019, 01:23:46 PM
What is it you have built a ring of 9 volt batteries  ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Yes, exactly!

 ;D
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 03, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
Hi guys, I finished my tpu today .... It was hard work ... I used a 26 AWG aluminum wire. SM said that multiple wires would do better so instead of putting multiple wires into one to make the collector I created a collector with multiple layers of coiled wires overlapping each other .... as the wire is too small and coiled in a tube of plastic looked like a tape ... after the several layers of tape on top of each other I organized the wires and soldered them to become a collector ... and so did the 3 collectors .... put a kind of foam rubber to separate each collector from each other in place of cork ....

Well, now I have 3 input coils, 3 output coils, 3 input collectors and 3 output collectors ....

I would like to know how would you connect the collectors? Leave it all in one collector? I put a diode in the output and then turn it back on the input or some capacitor? I put a diode in the collectors input?

I kind of got lost now ... if anyone can help it would be great !!!

Thanks!

Well i can't help because you just did everything i advised not to start with.
What are your expectations ?
That it will somehow magically light up a light bulb ?
It doesn't matter how you connect it because any way will lead to the same outcome.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Thaelin on November 03, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
Turbo, you can only suggest. In the end, they will build it the  way they think it should be. Their nickle now.


I personally am starting at the beginning and trying to produce an input that will show a larger return. What I call step one. Steven gave many hints to how so on we go.


thay

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 03, 2019, 11:46:32 PM
Crashangel
Quote
Well, now I have 3 input coils, 3 output coils, 3 input collectors and 3 output collectors ....
I would like to know how would you connect the collectors? Leave it all in one collector? I put a diode in the output and then turn it back on the input or some capacitor? I put a diode in the collectors input?
I kind of got lost now ... if anyone can help it would be great !!!

It's easy to get lost and before we build something it should be clear in our mind what were building is supposed to do and how it is supposed to do it. Thus building comes after we have a theory of operation and after we have worked out how everything is connected and switched. Otherwise what were building is little more than an expensive paper weight.

If you could post a picture with all the connections labelled that might help.

Regards
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: crashangel on November 04, 2019, 04:27:16 AM
Ok, this is device!

we have one in and one out for each control coil and collecting coil ...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 04, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
Yes it looks good.
You will probably have that up and running in no time  :)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: zapnic on November 05, 2019, 10:36:16 AM
"You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."

"squeeze the hose" and " movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."
Venturi effect ......hmmmm Is TPU   ... Electric Venturi Effect Turbine?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: AlienGrey on November 05, 2019, 11:50:20 AM
"You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."

"squeeze the hose" and " movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."
Venturi effect ......hmmmm Is TPU   ... Electric Venturi Effect Turbine?
Yeah but the fact is your ignoring how it really works if indeed iy does and it's not like that I have seen some video by Brian you would do well to wake up and watch it and change your aproch acordingly.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 05, 2019, 01:39:25 PM
"You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."

"squeeze the hose" and " movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils."
Venturi effect ......hmmmm Is TPU   ... Electric Venturi Effect Turbine?

Yes it's Venturi.
You finally found the secret after a decade of experiments and research.
Congrats !
If you look close in one of the vids, you can see the gigantic electric fan that Steven used and that is providing the kinetic wind energy to power the TPU Venture Generator.
Of course the humming was a problem and that is why they always used a voice over sound track that was synced to the events in the video.

He came to this great idea when he was talking to a guy who fixes lawn mowers and leaf blowers.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Raycathode on November 06, 2019, 08:04:12 AM
Quote from: zapnic on November 05, 2019, 10:36:16 AM

    "You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
    Picture a hose with water in it.
    If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
    move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
    You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
    along as well.
    And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
    precisely.
    You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
    electrons through the collector coils."

    "squeeze the hose" and " movement of water as the movement of
    electrons through the collector coils."
    Venturi effect ......hmmmm Is TPU   ... Electric Venturi Effect Turbine?


Yes it's Venturi.
You finally found the secret after a decade of experiments and research.
Congrats !
If you look close in one of the vids, you can see the gigantic electric fan that Steven used and that is providing the kinetic wind energy to power the TPU Venture Generator.
Of course the humming was a problem and that is why they always used a voice over sound track that was synced to the events in the video.

He came to this great idea when he was talking to a guy who fixes lawn mowers and leaf blowers.

What on earth are you on about there are no moving parts on any of his devices !
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: lancaIV on November 06, 2019, 01:11:51 PM
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3330899&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3330899&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
Venturi  ? Is the Biot-Savart law an electro-magnetic venturi velocity ( and pressure)  in-/ decreasing formula. ?
But : the Biot-Savart law also denominated : Ampere law and Laplace law. !
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 07, 2019, 04:51:37 PM
Zapnic
Quote
"You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.

You are correct and SM used this analogy many times when speaking about the TPU.

We could think of the conductor as a pipe containing our mobile electron fluid. Many people simply pump the electron fluid just like a hydraulic system so the input can never exceed the output for obvious reasons. They just keep on pumping and they just keep on failing because they do not know any different.

However in the real world we have external Magnetic and Electric fields which can act on our electron fluid. We also have internal molecular motion which when coordinated and directed could also act on our electron fluid. It does not matter how the force on the electron fluid is produced only that it is, to produce an electron current.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 08, 2019, 09:30:47 AM

mobile electron fluid.


Yes i have always thought that the TPU would run on a Fluid.
In one of the video's i thought i have seen one dripping.

Do you have any idea where we can buy this 'Mobile Electron Fluid'  ?
Is it somehow related to Ferro Fluid ?

Many Thanks.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: jojo500 on November 08, 2019, 10:17:00 AM
leaf blowers only! and it must be gaspowered (2stroke only)
the dripping is unburned oil and fuel from the 2stroke. ::)

Yes i have always thought that the TPU would run on a Fluid.
In one of the video's i thought i have seen one dripping.

Do you have any idea where we can buy this 'Mobile Electron Fluid'  ?
Is it somehow related to Ferro Fluid ?

Many Thanks.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 08, 2019, 10:54:48 AM
Well if that is the case then it's a pity because 2 stroke engines were forbidden here some time ago.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: jojo500 on November 08, 2019, 10:58:08 AM
ahh now we have it 8) SM got arrested because of air polution  ::)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 08, 2019, 11:06:57 AM
Well besides the 2 stroke engine, they also forbid usage of 100 Watt filament light bulbs !!
And Steven was burning 10 of those !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs)

Something is wrong.
Why mess with light bulbs when you have 39000 Air planes flying above your head it just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: jojo500 on November 08, 2019, 11:22:27 AM
jupp esentialy same here , there would be much bether ways to to do something about The planet. How ever it reflects some how the same humorous character of poeple reading detailed and verry well  formulated explonation of how a device coul posible work and start building a testrig right away in total opposit. And the rest of the storry ? well we all know that.... ???
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on November 08, 2019, 12:33:38 PM
Turbo Quote  Something is wrong.Why mess with light bulbs when you have 39000 Air planes flying above your head it just doesn't make sense. end quote
 possibility of accidentally discovering transmutation event ?
many years ago you posted a delightful video of a wonderful old fellow making tubes  [french I think ?
I lost it in a PUTOR crash ??

 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 08, 2019, 12:46:34 PM
That depends.... Natural, or Man Made Radio Isotopes.

But Lee the Forrest found the Electron cloud around Edisons light bulb filament and he placed a grid near it and added the Plate or Anode and then the Triode was born i believe it was 1923 but im not absolutely sure, then someone named Röntgen or maybe Crookes added some air back into the tube and with a high voltage, it started to give off X-Rays.
And these can be used to strike our fuel rod, it's so simple when put in words like that.
That's about 100 years of technology development so isn't it about time we took the next big step ?
We have been holding on to the same but inefficient model for so long, i believe this is because it works so well.
I'm still waiting for Sjack Abeling to finish his Gravity Mill.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on November 08, 2019, 01:31:01 PM
 Thanks for the reminder about the x-rays and high-voltage with atmosphere and other ingredients


 Are you aware of any simple cheap detectors for this and other emissions ? [besides films


 Do you know the video I mentioned with the old man the beautiful music... making a glass tube ?
 I really do miss that video ?


This high voltage reminder is appropriate for other projects being worked on for open source at the moment !
EDIT///YES below ...Thank you very much Sir
                       

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw)

claude Paillard ?       
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: jojo500 on November 08, 2019, 01:34:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw

claude Paillard ?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 08, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
Yes good question on the detector.
Here is one for example : Philips 18504
Those go as NOS for few bucks ion second hand sites.
Very easy circuitry too.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 12, 2019, 08:50:35 AM
Light bulbs are being phased out of our economy for 2 reasons


1) excessive, and unnecessary energy consumption
  LED’s are more efficient at producing light


2) hazardous chemicals used



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 12, 2019, 08:54:59 AM
If you guys are serious about attempting a TPU
learn first Parallel Resistance


Then learn about wavelength vs length of wire


Last, get a current data reading of the Schumman
I believe it was approaching 8 last time I checked?
And do the math down to a ‘reasonable’ length for you to handle


And always remember: Steven left us everything we need to know
Don’t worry about what the others have to say, most of it is bs and conjecture
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: mikegarla on November 14, 2019, 06:44:17 AM
"Please be very careful with lighting. Incandescent bulbs produce lighting which has frequencies in the red part of
the spectrum and those are healthy bulbs. Compact Fluorescent bulbs often called “CFL” produce ultra-violet
light as well as flicker and you should be four or five feet away from them if you don’t want adverse medical effects
from the lighting. Light-Emitting Diodes or “LED” bulbs are highly dangerous in spite of the fact that they give
excellent lighting levels for low current draw. They produce none of the beneficial red end of the visible spectrum
and instead they have a high output in the blue end of the spectrum. The result is lighting which has long-term
damaging effects on the retina of the eye, leading to macular degeneration and eventual blindness. The drug
Lutein is essential to combat the effect but LED lights should be avoided is at all possible."
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on November 14, 2019, 11:16:38 AM
"Please be very careful with lighting. Incandescent bulbs produce lighting which has frequencies in the red part of
the spectrum and those are healthy bulbs. Compact Fluorescent bulbs often called “CFL” produce ultra-violet
light as well as flicker and you should be four or five feet away from them if you don’t want adverse medical effects
from the lighting. Light-Emitting Diodes or “LED” bulbs are highly dangerous in spite of the fact that they give
excellent lighting levels for low current draw. They produce none of the beneficial red end of the visible spectrum
and instead they have a high output in the blue end of the spectrum. The result is lighting which has long-term
damaging effects on the retina of the eye, leading to macular degeneration and eventual blindness. The drug
Lutein is essential to combat the effect but LED lights should be avoided is at all possible."


Is this just some BS you have made up or do you actually have some evidence to support your wild claims?  And what does any of that have to do with the TPU?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: e2matrix on November 14, 2019, 05:51:30 PM
mikegarla,  what cifta said.   Where did you get this info?   Are you not aware that most LED lights now have options for 'warm' lights that mimic tungsten lights lighting?   They are available in many wavelengths.   The very first LED's were even all red in color.   
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on November 14, 2019, 06:03:14 PM
I am grateful for the info [eat more Kale sprouts...and other high in

https://opto.ca/health-library/blue-light-is-there-risk-of-harm (https://opto.ca/health-library/blue-light-is-there-risk-of-harm)
perhaps there is a topic here already ,also much more to learn about light and energy harvesting [even water disassociation /synthesis]

Moderators perhaps we can remove this useful info once we find the topic here?
there is going to be light frequency work here [and elsewhere]as part of water fuel experiments
Damages the retina ??light carries much more energy than we realize ,putting it to good use ??
 // Chet K
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 14, 2019, 11:51:04 PM
This site monitors the earth’s heartbeat
http://https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/ (http://https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/)


Any receiver tuned to a multiple of this freq.
will be able to harness energy from it


A resonant (tank) circuit and appropriate transistor, can amplify it.


This is what the TPU is designed to do.
Tesla also built an equivalent circuit
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: DavidWolff on November 15, 2019, 12:16:31 AM
This site monitors the earth’s heartbeat
http://https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/ (http://https://www.disclosurenews.it/en/schumann-resonance-today-update/)


Any receiver tuned to a multiple of this freq.
will be able to harness energy from it


A resonant (tank) circuit and appropriate transistor, can amplify it.


This is what the TPU is designed to do.
Tesla also built an equivalent circuit
Mr Smoky2 I think we have all tried that out over the past 10 years or so, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work in that mode!
PS your hyperlink fails for me too  8) :o
Dave
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: endlessoceans on November 15, 2019, 12:21:57 AM

Last, get a current data reading of the Schumman
I believe it was approaching 8 last time I checked?
And do the math down to a ‘reasonable’ length for you to handle


And always remember: Steven left us everything we need to know



If SM left us everything we need to know then this site would have a hundred replications by now.   Opposite is true.  SM told the public only what was necessary to completely muddy the waters so that NOBODY would ever be able to replicate based on WHAT HE SAID.  He was a liar and versed in the art of misdirection.


1)  Schumann Resonance is NOT just one freq.  The Schumann resonances (SR) are electromagnetic oscillations of the Earth-ionosphere cavity at frequencies of 7.8, 14, 20, 26, 33, 39, and 45 Hz.

2)  I almost guarantee that his device has nothing to do with those particular resonances  .SM himself showed a number of TPUs in different sizes and ALL of them ran at vastly different frequencies.  One was at the thousands of HZ.  Go watch the videos again. 

3)  There are other forces at work that it may have been based on and he did NOT say anything about those.  That is what is more interesting.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 15, 2019, 05:02:16 AM
1) you are on the right track, but your math needs to be more precise,
as it has to be carried out into a manageable length of wire.


2) He told us why they were different sizes.


3) the only forces at play are positive feedback.
  (constructive interference)
the entire system has to be designed to the base signal.


It doesn’t have to be the earth’s freq.
These days there are thousands to tap into.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 19, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
Endlessoceans
Quote
If SM left us everything we need to know then this site would have a hundred replications by now.   Opposite is true.  SM told the public only what was necessary to completely muddy the waters so that NOBODY would ever be able to replicate based on WHAT HE SAID.

I guess it would depend on your perspective and what you think he said.

In my opinion the best clue SM left was probably the one everyone ignored when SM said to consider all the things which could happen in a single length of wire. It's silly isn't it because we know everything about everything and we have nothing to learn about a silly wire. However as we know every individual part inside that wire is moving near the speed of light. That wire contains enough internal atomic/molecular energy to level a small city if only we could access the energy.

Fission and fusion are one very expensive and complicated way however I suspect some people found easier methods. Think of it this way, nuclear fission, as in an atomic bomb, creates a chain reaction liberating massive amounts of latent atomic energy within matter. However what if we only wanted a little energy... a little kick?. Could we use a different low energy process to produce only a few high energy particles and knock a few electrons around to produce a little kick versus a thermo-nuclear detonation?.

Apparently the answer is yes and some real Engineers at the "SAFIRE project" say they have produced a low energy variation of cold fusion using a HV plasma in an almost table top unit. Imagine that, now what if we could take a bunch of wires and switches and produce a HV plasma and co-ordinate the electrical forces in such a way that it produced forces similar to SAFIRE which could look like anything. It could look like a motor-generator, a Tesla coil, a transformer... so long as the internal process produced similar results.

No energy from nothing, no secret sauce or over-unity would be required... just a little knowledge, understanding and a great deal of ingenuity.

Think of a thermo-nuclear device or the Sun then reduce it down to something half the size of your refrigerator like the SAFIRE device. Now reduce that down by the same magnitude to something the size of a component, say a commutator brush or switch. Why it could be that the missing ingredient, the secret sauce could be transmutation/cold fusion occurring in the plasma created in between the switch contacts as it opens under the proper conditions. That extra little "kick" which appeared in the circuit for reasons most couldn't explain.

Science is like that, science is like a box of chocolates and you never really know what your going to get under the right conditions. The we know everything and predetermination nonsense, that's for egomaniacs not real scientists because in fact there is more that we do not know than we could ever know. I mean, everything we think we know as tangible is actually 1% matter moving near the speed of light in 99% free space filled with terrawatts of Electro-magnetic energy ie. "Feynman's free space energy" ... so what do we really know of Energy?.

Quote
Physicists Richard Feynman and John Wheeler calculated the zero-point radiation of the vacuum to be an order of magnitude greater than nuclear energy, with a single light bulb containing enough energy to boil all the world's oceans.

Regards



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 20, 2019, 06:51:46 AM
Quote
Physicists Richard Feynman and John Wheeler calculated the zero-point radiation of the vacuum to be an order of magnitude greater than nuclear energy, with a single light bulb containing enough energy to boil all the world's oceans.

I added this quote so people understand that "Energy" was never the problem as we are obviously swimming in a sea of energy. All of the most intelligent scientists and physicists agree energy is everywhere in everything and it is only the misguided who think differently. So this notion of "getting energy" from somewhere is wrong as the energy is already present and what we want is to convert or transform energy.

My first experiments were based on basic observations of the TPU and it seemed like an obvious first step to me. The TPU configuration has horizontal collector coils with three control coils, equally spaced at 120 Deg, wrapped around the collector at right angles to it. This is a problem because one coil A wrapped around another coil B, at a right angle, cannot induce any amount of current in B. The changing magnetic field poles from coil A are acting in the same direction as the path of conduction of B which is longitudinal to it and does not work. In order to understand why we must go back and study Faraday's Laws of Induction to understand what Faraday actually said and more so what he implied. If you want to understand a law then we should read it in the words of the person who actually wrote it not some second hand interpretation.

However sometimes our experiments at the bench do not always agree with some often misinterpreted law written in a textbook. As it were I found I could induce a current with the coils at right angles because of another set of laws, Weber's Electrodynamic Laws, which supersede Faraday's Laws and do allow for a longitudinal force to produce induction. Which is kind of a kick in the pants isn't it?, sure the laws apply and are equally valid in the context they were implied but that does not change the fact there are two sets of laws for induction. Faraday's law for parallel induction and Weber's law for serial or longitudinal induction.

So I was wondering how many experimenters here found they could induce a current in a coil with the inducing coil at right angles to the induced coil?.

Regards

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Turbo on November 24, 2019, 07:03:56 AM

In order to understand why we must go back and study Faraday's Laws of Induction to understand what Faraday actually said and more so what he implied.

Regards

This is exactly what you should NOT do.
You can study Faraday's Laws of Induction until the end of time and it's not going to help you one iota.
The only thing that can and will help people is doing the specific tests and analyzing the feedback from it's results.
It doesn't matter what you believe or think or understand, these test results are undeniable, and especially, repeatable, and they will show you where to look next without wondering what it could possibly be in terms of your current understanding.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 25, 2019, 04:57:13 PM
Turbo
Quote
The only thing that can and will help people is doing the specific tests and analyzing the feedback from it's results.
It doesn't matter what you believe or think or understand, these test results are undeniable, and especially, repeatable, and they will show you where to look next without wondering what it could possibly be in terms of your current understanding.

Which tests are you talking about?.
How are you analyzing the results?
Specifically...


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 26, 2019, 05:52:37 AM
I believe my question still stands...
Quote
So I was wondering how many experimenters here found they could induce a current in a coil with the inducing coil at right angles to the induced coil?.

This is what the TPU is and is reflective of what it must do and it does not matter if there are one hundred horizontal collector coil turns or one turn as the effect must be the same. The control coils must act on the collector coils at right angles which as we know is in violation of Faraday's Law.

Faraday's Law states the inducing coils field must induce and couple to the induced coils at which point Lenz Law is invoked. As such parallel coils have maximum induction and as one of the coils rotates through 90 degrees the induction falls to zero as the coils align at a right angle. The TPU coils are at right angles thus Faraday's law of induction cannot apply... so how does induction occur?.

I have done the experiments and what I have claimed holds true. Coils at right angles have literally no induction occurring with pulsed DC or AC currents. I am not saying the TPU cannot work and I believe it does, what I an saying is it cannot work using Faraday's laws of induction as we know them and it must be something different... so what is it?.

Regards

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 26, 2019, 06:09:20 AM
Consider for a moment, Faraday’s postulate.


In our 3-dimensional universe, can two coils not be
Both perpendicular to one another, while also being
both perpendicular to the electric field?


The magnetic force is considered to be 0.
This is simply a convenience. It is “actually” along the length of the wire.
Perpendicular to the flow of current in the first wire
the 2nd wire experiences no force, but the Current does!


Test this on your oscilloscope
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 26, 2019, 07:35:41 AM
Currents in parallel wires attract each other on opposite directions.
In like directions they repel


Why?


What direction is the force?


Now,.......


If your base frequency oscillation was “free”, or omnipresent
What happens?


Harmonics are a convenience for us “humans”
Because, quite frankly a wire 38287670.2426564 meters long
Is not reasonable.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on November 26, 2019, 12:33:00 PM
I believe my question still stands...
This is what the TPU is and is reflective of what it must do and it does not matter if there are one hundred horizontal collector coil turns or one turn as the effect must be the same. The control coils must act on the collector coils at right angles which as we know is in violation of Faraday's Law.

Faraday's Law states the inducing coils field must induce and couple to the induced coils at which point Lenz Law is invoked. As such parallel coils have maximum induction and as one of the coils rotates through 90 degrees the induction falls to zero as the coils align at a right angle. The TPU coils are at right angles thus Faraday's law of induction cannot apply... so how does induction occur?.

I have done the experiments and what I have claimed holds true. Coils at right angles have literally no induction occurring with pulsed DC or AC currents. I am not saying the TPU cannot work and I believe it does, what I an saying is it cannot work using Faraday's laws of induction as we know them and it must be something different... so what is it?.

Regards


If what you are saying is true then how does a clamp-on amp meter work?  The clamp part does in fact go AROUND the current carrying wire.  So some current or at least voltage must be induced into the sensing circuit of the meter.  And all the older ones were only mechanical with no batteries or outside power source yet they could still move the meter needle.  Maybe the very weak coupling between coils at right angles is part of the secret to the TPU working.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Raycathode on November 26, 2019, 02:25:00 PM
Currents in parallel wires attract each other on opposite directions.
In like directions they repel


Why?


What direction is the force? that depends on 2 or 3 factors going on here (bucking coils spring to mind


Now,.......


If your base frequency oscillation was “free”, or omnipresent
What happens?


Harmonics are a convenience for us “humans”
Because quite frankly a wire 38287670.2426564 meters long
Is not reasonable.
Thanks for the advice but this isn't good avice  ;D try connecting a good earth or 'MASS' like a car battery. to some sort of catcher, it will pull itself to a harmonic of the earth resonance, you would know that if you experimented instead of quoting gremlins.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on November 26, 2019, 10:28:39 PM
Citfa
Quote
If what you are saying is true then how does a clamp-on amp meter work?  The clamp part does in fact go AROUND the current carrying wire.  So some current or at least voltage must be induced into the sensing circuit of the meter.  And all the older ones were only mechanical with no batteries or outside power source yet they could still move the meter needle.  Maybe the very weak coupling between coils at right angles is part of the secret to the TPU working.

The clamp part of an amp meter which goes around the main conductor is a circular iron core. The secondary winding's are then wound around the circular iron core not the main conductor. It's pretty ingenious because the main conductors magnetic field is parallel to the circular iron core which is why the core can induce the secondary winding and produce a voltage.

However as I said if a copper wire is wound around a single conductor the inducing magnetic field is at right angles to the conductor and induction does not occur. In my opinion first we have to understand how Faraday Induction actually works then understand when it does not work then apply this to the TPU. The collector coils are being induced by the control coils however it is not Faraday Induction it is Weber Induction. Everyone is using the wrong kind of induction which is why they cannot make the TPU work.

In fact in the late 1800's to early 1900's there were many different theories to explain thousands of extraordinary phenomena which were discovered. However Maxwell discarded most all the things he couldn't explain and all the alternate theories and only published a few of the most popular theories in his work. Maxwell did this because there are in fact thousands of different variations on the laws of physics we know and it would be almost impossible to include them all. So you see, what you know is only the condensed version of physics not the whole story.

Regards




Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 02, 2020, 11:15:31 PM
Ok Here is my proposal.

And I now am holding Turbo in high regard due to this funny way of going about thing, and respectfully invite him to discuss the TPU in his thread, as I always did.

My starting point is simply the Bruce TPU video, and going from there. Something that can be mastered here is 3D modelisation of electrical vectors, for understanding of how exactly it works.

My prosalsal is simply this. "Fuel" material is used to provide electrons, this material is powered, pulsed, in order to release electrons, surrounding this is 3 perpendicular powered/pulsed pickup coils, wich may or may not be overlapped across the fuel loop.

A certain alloy wire is turned in a loop, this alloy must be well researched.

When the frequency/phase is right, the power is collected in parallel format.

Now the next part is finding the frequency.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 10:12:06 AM
I'm not much of and artist but someone might be able to make sense of it. I am having trouble visualizing the magnetic field of the inner conductor of TPU. As I see it current will flow in a loop around the circumference of the inner wire, not end to end. But there should be a magnetic flux in the core loop. The inner loop is the equivalent of the laminated core in a transformer. But since it's a loop of wire , instead of laminated steel sheets what would this magnetic field look like. Would it be the same as the flux in a laminated core or not. I'm not sure if I have the direction of the loops correct but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 11:07:10 AM
Would it maybe look something like this drawing. It gets really confusing when you expand it to multiple turns of wire.Hopefully someone can clarify for me.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 11:50:50 AM
On second thought it would have to be. It's the same thing as wrapping wire around a steel rod. You now have and electromagnet, correct? But what effect does multiple turns have.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on January 03, 2020, 03:15:56 PM
kajunbee


Please reduce your picture size to the forum standards.  You can use FPC (free photo converter) to do that if you don't have another program.  Your overlarge picture makes it almost impossible to view what you are trying to show. You only have a short time to edit your posts so please do it quickly.








Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 04:15:29 PM
Cifta, I cannot view images from my phone. How do the images look now.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: citfta on January 03, 2020, 04:27:22 PM
They look fine now.  Thanks for fixing that.  It makes is much easier to read the thread and view the pictures.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 05:21:59 PM
The second drawing would be the inner loop. You will have to imagine the other current carrying conductor wrapped around it.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 03, 2020, 05:55:02 PM
I'll consider this design if you cna make a better drawing of it, with more effort, and show well the leads and signal inputs.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kolbacict on January 03, 2020, 06:45:20 PM
Coil Marco Rodin is not about that? By the way, how did this story end?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 06:45:52 PM
There is no concept, just and attempt to understand how the device could possibly function. You can draw three single vertical loops and 3 single horizontal loops if you like. I have just reduced it to single loop for simplicity.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 03, 2020, 10:57:26 PM
There seems to be several configurations for this device. Some look like solid toroid cores.
And others appear to have parralel wound coils.  Does anybody really know how the original was made. Or is just guess work.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 04, 2020, 03:45:30 PM
The role of this core is to eject electrons from it.

In all videos its a taped up mass that that you can draw no conclusions from.

So the shape can be circular, horse shoe like, almost comlete circle.

Yeah, its all guesswork. But Mannix posted a picture, you can take that seriously or with a grain of salt, does not matter.

As I have said before, I am aproaching this problem from a brute force hackers perpective.

And if you are not good with embedded software, electronics, and amplifiers, sensor data aquisition, then forgot about it.

You belong with the noobs.

When you connect your TPU you expect it to fail and move on from there.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 04, 2020, 04:49:43 PM
Ok, I must have miss the part about ejecting electrons. And it ejects these electrons through insulated wire, air and gobs of electrical tape into another insulated wire. And doing so with no visible or audible indicators that it's happening. No corona, arcing or anything. Just quiet as a church mouse. Truly a wonderous device. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 04, 2020, 04:53:15 PM
O yeah, and its expensive also.

Poor poor Otto.

He could have done so muhc more with better budget, re-using his wires :(

But you know, I dont think you are half as strong as Otto.

You sound "fearful" if its not all guaranteed and cushionny for you. You dont deserve FREE ENERGY.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 04, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pux_QHARA5Y

Bruce made his video private, I told people to save it. Basically it explains how the core works.

Too bad you missed it, nothing to worry about just another YT video, just the difference between life and your death in a future nuclear war, goodbye.

Do people listen? No, people disobey and betray, they are weak.

I have the video but I wont give it to you, if Bruce wishes this to be private, for me loyalty is important.

Anyways its like this , when the current meet on a node the alebgraic sum is zero.

electron are ejected in a spike.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 04, 2020, 05:27:28 PM
Yeah serves you well, video gone! No biggie.

Told people, this is good, people like cattle meeeeuuuh. Lazy meuuuh.

Just another YT video gone, just like a cat video ;D
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 04, 2020, 05:56:36 PM
No problem, I was going by the description on another thread and there was no mention of a core. So that's what had me thrown off. I incorrectly assumed that the horizontal coils were the core material. But going back to crash angels first post he mentions a toroid.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 04, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
Its a core made of wire, the wire can be iron or an alloy of, maybe even china silver. its something that you must shoot a signal through and maximize node sites from kirchoff zero current node algebraic sum zero.

Its at these nodes that the electrons shoot out from the wire perpendicularly, and then you collect these, and accelerate these, with a combination of magical frequencies.

You will never understand or finish in time without thta excellently explained and researched video.

goodbye.

Serves you people well not to save videos when I tell you to. No biggie, you just die.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 12:28:57 AM
https://overunity.com/3506/wards-build-of-bob-boyces-tpu/msg70380/#msg70380

typing the word "kirchoff" in search tab brings much interresting discussions.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 04:52:14 AM
Yes there’s a Toroid......


It’s kind of in the title.


No it doesn’t have to be made of iron.
it does have to be paramagnetic.
“ferrous” usually applies to iron or its’ alloys but there
are also cobalt, nickel, and some of the rare earth metals.


It’s most certainly an alloy, which allows it to take on an induced
field, but not retain magnetism.


Beyond that it probably does’t matter, except to note that SM
would have used the material with the fastest response time available
to him, and this would have been a custom semiconductor grade
ceramic ferrite.
Much like the Toroids we still use today, only larger.
A VERY specific diameter!
and if you are choosing to ignore what SM says about wire length
you are wasting your time.
But I wish you the best of luck

If you have to proportions and parameters correct,
you can build a working circuit of any size, shape, or dimensions.
But it requires a source.
Tesla and Bendini used oscillators,
Stiffler used another equivalent circuit that operated from impulses
from earth-ground.
SM and another of Tesla’s circuits use a natural source of the atmospheric
oscillations.
They are essentially the same circuit drawn in different ways.
Simplify them all with common electronics transform techniques
and you end up with the same transistor powered Tesla circuit sold on EBay.
This uses its’ own built in driver from the a/c wall plug.
Bruce showed us how to do the same thing wirelessly
And only a few paid attention.


The electromagnetic field occupies a volume of space.
It doesn’t really care what’s in that space......
time the oscillations to work together.
and you can charge a multitude of coils in that space and discharge them
so they charge one another, and add to the original impulse.
The amplitude will continue to grow if you don’t use it......
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 04:55:45 AM
I have all the knowledge, right here with my Bruce_TPU videos.

Now all is gone.

Now get burnt all you unwise peasants. Apocalypse is near hahahaha.

Alloys are in my mindset, yes. But will remain cheap as this is fuel.

Wire lenght is a part that sucks, if a coil doesnt work after like 2 years on the bench consider it dud.

This is brute force 500k $ operation.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 05:59:40 AM
Yeah it will be a big operation. For big balls alpha male, armed with much $, much skill, and Bruce_TPU videos.

I can almost taste the free energy, feel the heat of a constantly heated pool parties yeah...

and also, I think it should be bifilar wound, the core loop made of alloy wire.

This should be a non inductive wound wire resistor, as to make the wire in "reset mode" as quick as possible, before any current was ever put in it.

As it was when it was "in synch" with the earth.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on January 05, 2020, 07:19:31 AM
My only question would be is anyone here not a paid corporate shill or fucking psychopath spamming the threads with incoherent psychobabble?.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 02:52:09 PM
It’s just the same one from before he changed his name


Out of hundreds of comments and replies he has had absolutely
nothing of value to add to any threads he posted in....


The few rare occasions I thought he actually said something useful....
Turns out he was quoting someone earlier in the discussion.


Not sure what motivates someone to waste their time with nonsense
and naysayersness. And yes psychobabble is probably the appropriate term.


If he spent half the energy and time actually being helpful, he has the potential
to help push one of these technologies along.
Doubtful that he will, but I’m somewhat of an optimist when it comes to humans.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 03:01:02 PM
I have already said that everything Bruce said is important and that all his videos were important.

Over unity is a lonely quest, and the higher you get the more lonely you are.

Making you all completely useless.

You people are too lazy to even save videos.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 03:13:42 PM
If you start with the stiffler circuit he gives you detailed instructions
How to measure and test what we are doing.
How the Impulse stacks up over time.
Once you learn how it works, you can move on to a more compact design
Where the coils sit inside one another.


Get that to work with a known frequency impulse.
At no distance.
Now you have a TPU.


Build another amplifier to pick up the same impulse at a distance.
Now you have wireless energy transmission.


Now here’s the part where this technology diverts from standard
waveform transformation:
In practice and theory we assume a condition on non-interference.
If otherwise, we create a known condition of destructive interference.
(remember the ferrite beads and ominous resistors?)


These circuits work on another principal, that of constructive interference.
We learn this in school, then the lesson goes immediately into how to get rid of it.
Go back to the beginning, the math is all there in your book. We just don’t use it.


Remember the experiment with the single fixed-end rope, that is given an impulse
at a set frequency proportional to a wavelength division of the rope length.
What happens?
This is the same as when wind tears down a bridge, or the Tesla earthquake machine.
Our human solution? Wind disruptors!!! Get rid of all that free energy, because it’s more
than we used to build the bridge in the first place!


A small impulse, amplified and stacked up over time can amount to near infinite energy.
(actually only up to the input of the source over time, but SM’s source is bigger than us)




Understand this device is based on well known and well established physical properties of
the universe.
Just not ones that are prevalent in our current society. (This was not always the case)
Look at the dimensions and symmetry of oldworld architecture.
Some of the ones that are still intact play natural music when the wind blows.
And create physical vibration in walls, towers, and fenceposts that can power all sorts of
generators. Simple vibrational generators, the gave electricity to civilizations far in the past.
Something we only recently “rediscovered”.


It seems like a lot to take in, but those of us that were here 20 years ago watched it happen
in our own time with the Solar Death Ray of Archimedes (356 B.C.)
And the Eric Jacqmain adventures that brought the technology into our modern world.
Today there are massive solar deathrays powering cities worldwide.


Never underestimate the work we do here.
Bringing technological awareness to the public is the first step towards freeing ourselves
from the economic slavery enforced upon us by the capitalist regime.







Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 03:46:02 PM
The core will be composed of bifilar wound magnetic alloy, wich should be cheap and abundant.

A standing wave is setup for there to be nodes of zero current.

The wavelength should be small to maximize node sites.

The wavelength should be a multiple of 7.8hz, but with such high multiples does precision even matter?

Then the rest is controlled by a master algorithm that will mine the frequencies.

With many many coils.

It’s the same thing as bitcoin but even more venture.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Raycathode on January 05, 2020, 03:59:29 PM
Have you bothered to look at SM's original there is nothing in it ! so where is all your stuff hidden ?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 04:10:48 PM
I don’t know what you mean and no I have not bothered.

There is 13 years of posting on the TPU.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 04:15:31 PM
Don't worry Smoky, our paths run parralel. I may zig when I should of zagged sometimes. But still headed the same direction.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 04:25:30 PM
None of our technology is ours, save that which was derived in the
last century.


All else was deciphered from ancient texts and reverse engineered
from that which we found.
The Crooke who stole radiology and claimed it to be his own invention.
or the thousands of early patents that gave innumerable wealth to families.
Information was coming in so fast we didn’t know what to do with it.
Much of which has sat on shelves, still undeciphered to this day.
Stolen, all of it. These inventors didn’t even know how much of it worked.
The physics to represent much of the inherited technology did not yet exist.
We still don’t have a full understanding of these machines today,
even when we build and test them.


Why is this relevant?
I was educated as an electronics/computer engineer, specializing in robots.
As an entrepreneur I created a robotics company. They have fascinated me
since the robots of science fiction I read about as a child.


As a historian, I had a chance to observe fist-hand a robotic mechanism from
shortly after the collapse of the Bronze Age, in a time when everything was
supposed to be “dark”.


Among many artistic city scene drawings showing illuminated buildings and street lights
Lighthouses, lighttowers on hilltops and major junctions, lamps in buildings, etc.
Images of people, do detailed it could not have been drawn by hand.
(determined to be an unknown magnetic imaging technology)
Was an array of mechanisms. Mostly physically mechanical, having drive wheels or
cranks to turn,gears,  weights and pulleys, etc.


There was one that stood out. It looked like a man, or rather an armored knight.
This machine had no external cranks no internal weights, no visible drive mechanism.
At least at first sight.... Being an engineer , I had no choice but to examine this mechine
in an attempt to figure out how/what it did.


Each system of the robot was broken down into specific drivetrains internally.
But otherwise resembled a grandfather clock.
While some of the gears shared common fixed axles, it was clear that they were not
interconnected, and that the gear systems each operated independently with no common
drive mechanism, flywheel, etc.
Each system was driven independently. And operated a physical motion of each of the
legs, arms, hands, head, torso, and various mechanisms, most of which had been removed or
destroyed long ago.


What was curious was that each drivetrain terminated with a small gear driving a large gear
Adjacent to the small gear was a curved strip of metal that resembles that inside a thermostat
or mechanical thermometer (but only one strip not a bi-metal)
The strip was connnected at one end to an antenna that protruded externally near the top of
the robot. Each antenna was of a different size.
And not physically connected internally, but rather had a separation material of unknown
composition between the receiving antenna and its outer casing.


My conclusion at the time was that each system was operated somehow by a specific frequency
radio transmission.
The control panel, which was stationary and somehow powered (by the building!?!)
was very similar to the stiffler circuit but had glass bulb like pieces that looked like an
oversized vacuum tube, but did not have internal metal parts. (maybe once held a gas?)


My point is, the technology we are talking about in this thread was being used thousands of years
before we got here. We are children playing in the dark....
Look at the rooftops downtown anywhere....
Go to your capitol or post office, local college, or the town’s original bank.....
Look at the historic district wherever you happen to live....
Look at the objects on the roof. The “vases” or “ornaments” filled with a strange substance....
electronically wired into the metal-frame of the concrete or brick structure.
Realize that that circuit connects to earth ground some hundreds of feet below in the
(now buried) 70-ft “basement”.....
Don’t live near a city? That’s ok, drive down any federal highway and look at the first town you see.
It’s all the same all over the world.
We don’t understand the technology, but it is clear that they had it.
 we can’t even make that type of stuff.
Look at our fences, look at our walls, and look at theirs.


Everything was carefully engineered to vibrate at a natural frequency.
Take a piece of their technology and remove the paint we put on top
And the thing vibrates on its’ own.


The fences, gates, candelabra, steeples vibrate when they are not painted!!!
The ones that are made of more than one type of metal emit emf when they vibrate.
Another receiver of the same dimensions nearby will synch up like a pair of metronomes.
(even when the particular shape may differ!)


We have all seen an overhang vibrate violently in the wind, or a tarp flap so hard it rips itself.
There are constant energies and motion all around us. Some we see, some we feel, some we
hear, some are radio or emf, and some we don’t detect at all. But they are there, for us to use,
for free.


Iron vibrating next to copper
What happens?
The earth places a tiny magnetic field in the iron.
The motion induces a field in the copper
The continued vibration amplifies the emf in both.


This works in reverse. An electrical oscillation in the piece of copper causes a physical vibration
in the iron.
The continued oscillation amplifies the physical vibration.
This is how the ancient robot functioned.


Just like the TPU.


People get lost on the source of SM’s impulse.
Put that on hold, that’s the free energy.


Learn the device, learn how to amplify the signal. Maybe start with a signal generator
and coils you can control the parameters.
You can use an old radio trick to tune your coils, by having a connection point on a set screw.
And sand the outer edge of the coil in a strip down the length of the coil.
This allows you to adjust the connection and “short out” individual loops on each coil.
This way you can very easily match the coil transceivers without worrying about their length,
inductance or impedance.


Match them to your input by monitoring the receiver on your scope.
then tune the next coil to receive the signal from the first.
Now add your capacitive circuit and feed it back in.


Now you know how it works.
You can use SM’s source, or
Choose an impulse of your own.
Maybe an FM channel maybe stellar emissions?
It doesn’t have to be the Schumann
This is just one free energy source, and happens to be the one chosen by SM.
And I have to agree with his choice, because its’ magnitude exceeds our human needs.







Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 04:39:55 PM
There was a video if I remember correctly where he cut a pie section out. I haven't been able to locate it yet, but I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 04:46:05 PM
I also read things about a video where its cut open but never really found that video.

The best I got is a picture from Mannix, wich apparently is the most primitive starting point that was given to him by SM himself.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 05:13:52 PM
https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-non-inductive-resistor-and-how-is-one-made

We want free electrons to release themselves from the material, so for the core, having a big magnetic field is a bad thing.

Magnetic fields take time to charge and discharge, wich we want to avoid.

We want small wavelenght standing waves with many nodes that shoot electrons perpendicular to the node points.

Its these electrons that we must use to create chain reaction.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 05:24:41 PM
This was quite a few years back, so it may have been taken down by now.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 05:25:34 PM
When will people learn, nothing is eternal on youtube.

Pure lazyness.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 06:58:22 PM
Interesting historical fact:


Bells were never bells! We invented a reverse use for the device
By ADDING a hammer inside!
They were originally sound RECIEVERS / resonators
and physically connected to the substructure NOT “hanging”!


The sound of the air passing through the towers caused a resonant
vibration that rung the entire tower which in turn rang the larger building
They constantly produced sound, which is why they were destroyed by our
civilization.


The vibration of the metal inside the stone structures caused electric pressure
The rising amplitude gave it tension.
It is described this way by the old world very explicitly.


They used the energy to operate water and air compressors, that work differently
than ours do today. Without valves or separated chambers.
But rather pressure built up by motion such as that of the wind or a flowing river.
Fountains and wind powered channels are still functional around the world today.
Operating on free energy designed into the construction.
The same energy was converted into electricity and heat.
The oldest “induction heater” sits in a museum in Suzdal, dated to some 900 yrs ago.
4ftx4ftx12ft tall, and was known to heat the building it sits in.
Completely made of solid ceramic with 1/2” coils of an iron alloy wrapped through its’
interior, powered by electric oscillations the building harnessed.


The buildings were gigantic tank circuits designed to resonate from natural sources.
Just like TPU, stiffler 2&3coil, bendini , Tesla


A guy mad a wind generator out of bandsaw blades stretched horizontally
with a magnet placed 1/4 the length out that passed through a coil when the wind blows.
This is a physical representation of the principal. Like the rope experiment.
The singing bowls of India
Or a digereedoo
Old pipe organs
Blow wind across a resonant chamber in front of a tuning fork
It will cause the fork to resonate, as will a metronome tuned to
a resonant node of the fork operating nearby.


The physics are exactly the same


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 07:10:27 PM
The wire core alloy should be wound with double wire or twisted pair wire then cut and attached. But now I worry about, parasitic capacitance that will make my waveguide a leaky waveguide.

So how long should the wire core be? Diameter is irrelevant.

At What submultiple of the schumann wavelenght should the wire be cut?

In electrical terms, not sound.

The goal is to reduce inductance and maximize impulse power transfer on nodes that shoot into space.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 07:23:52 PM
The video quality is poor as usual so not much can be seen.https://youtu.be/tPuhI03ZMR8 (https://youtu.be/tPuhI03ZMR8)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 07:31:57 PM
Where does he open it?

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 07:40:46 PM
I only saw him cut section open around 4:45. I just fast forwarded to that point.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 07:48:18 PM
Yeah so I paused and cant see anything.

However my motivation has been increased.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: kajunbee on January 05, 2020, 08:08:34 PM
It is only a cutaway of the toroid which is what I was curious about. Unfortunately the video quality is poor. If your unable to see it then I'm not sure what the problem is. 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 08:32:54 PM
The version in that video is using normal ceramic ferrite rings
Found inside a power supply, or etc.
You can order them on eBay or amazon or cannabalize something
They are coiled in a “bucking” configuration.
2 coils per toroid
So the magnetic poles oppose each other n-n/s-s
With a gap between them about 1/6th of the circumference
very sloppily I might add....


The large ring is a stack of speaker rings (plastic?)
to hold the receiver coils in place.
Cap 1 is between the primaries
Cap 2 between the secondaries
The other ends are crossed 1-2
and 1 to a coil
2 to another coil
and the big coil uses a cap as the “virtual ground”
you can replace his reed switch with any other switch
to turn it off and on.
It’s just like Stiffler/Tesla it just is arranged differently
Pancake coils might work better/easier
His cylindrical coils require proper spacing between them
notice how large the gap is when they cut into it
Like the “string can intercom”, works best at distance intervals



The outer coils are wound in the same direction
So they cooperate
The inner coils buck against each other, and the difference
in timing between them (because it’s not well built) causes the
physical vibration (losses).




Tune the big coil to your favorite FM station
and screw up their advertising budget while you harvest
power from their station.


Tune it to 60 Hz, and get rid of your wall outlets....


Or.... tune it to 7.81~??



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 05, 2020, 08:55:40 PM
There’s square/rectangular stacked metal plate transformers
That have bucking coils on each side.
These can replace his toroids.
And probably way more efficient


The round shape of the antenna is not important
We can make a square one, or any shape as long as
the geometry and spacing allows the 2 smaller coils
to pick up the field from the big one, and feed it into
both of the bucking transformers.


To describe that magnetically, it’s like the reactive inductance
large motors can put on a load meter.
Or the “virtual current” a large generator puts out just before
it kicks on.


The pickup coils catch the signal from the larger receiver coil
from the top and from the bottom.
(which is amplified by the capacitor)
each one feeds half of a bucking coil
This in turn charges the other half across the cap
because the whole toroid develops a field not just the half
The “virtual energy” is added back into the circuit the 2nd
half of the cycle.


The toroid coils aren’t important for it to work.
Of course the better they are wound, the more efficient the
energy conversion.
But the whole of the functionality lies in the receiver coils.
They must operate constructively with the input frequency.
Not destructively.
That is the key.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 09:24:33 PM
There no difference between ferrite and alloy wire. Alloy wire will allow for longer wavelength.

I’ll have to shop for materials and decide on a variety of designs.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 11:18:46 PM
First of all Smoky, what do you mean by "bucking", and do you have a circuit?

Use better terminogy and draw your circuit, I am tired of you wiggling around and making walls.

The fact that there seems to be black material is perplexing.

I am now wondering how he is setting up high frequency standing waves inside the core, hmm...

How to make many areas where the Kirchoff condition of zero current is true?

One thing that I feel strongly about, is that this needs to be non-inductive if the electrons are to be ejected.

Its easy to think of it when you have a wire and a signal, and he did start with wire, if Mannix is to be believed.

Theres alot of confusion on my end, because first I hear that getting the frequency is a precise affair and required lab equipment, and then I head theres no control electronics.

I dont know where to start or who to believe so I think I will just start slowly and with the kicks, as Bruce has said.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 05, 2020, 11:38:36 PM
Jack Durban seems to say this is related, I'm listening...

I aint talking about what these people say, just saying this number.

https://overunity.com/4319/tesla-patent-381970-tpu/

Am now gobbling up all info on this number.

Good video I never heard that interview.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 06, 2020, 01:50:37 AM
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/radio-physics-course-may-1934-radio-news.htm

I wanted to try the double back non inductive coil, as a core.

You Smoky believe that there is no driving the core and you may be right this, and all the stuff is accomplished by bucking coils + a third coil.

Now I wonder what to do with Bruce's theory, and if infact its an undriven core.

Theres much experimentation, for a machine. Many many designs.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 06, 2020, 02:52:12 AM
https://docplayer.net/27986837-Guidelines-to-bucking-coils-lenz-s-law-free-power-extraction.html

It seems to be on page 18 that the aciton starts.

Will any of you dweebs be actually useful in life and make a TPU drawing by reading this crap?




Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 06, 2020, 03:02:18 AM
So I youtube non inductive bucking coil and found this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUemDvugl4I

Is somebody gonna grow make genitalia and draw me a design WTF?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 06, 2020, 04:10:59 AM
Kajunbee, if you wanna know more, then ask Bruce_TPU to friend you on youtube

It will be more clear then on the electron ejection.

Steven Marks was a dick and never even teased us with a circuit, you see all the confusion it causes?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 06, 2020, 04:27:05 AM
Hey you, autist kid, stop being useless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtTerstCxU

watch these videos, then go ask Burce_TPU for a friend invite, then watch his videos, then draw me the TPU.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxVE7vWzgwsM2eoDFSWghnw

Bruce is currently the most advanced researcher, but still its not a done deal and people must press on.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 06, 2020, 07:25:53 PM

I wanted to try the double back non inductive coil, as a core.

You Smoky believe that there is no driving the core and you may be right this, and all the stuff is accomplished by bucking coils + a third coil.

Now I wonder what to do with Bruce's theory, and if infact its an undriven core.

Theres much experimentation, for a machine. Many many designs.


I think you missed it.....


It has little to do with the bucking coils.
That’s just his way of amplifying it to make it usable.
Something Stiffler should have spent more time on.


The receiver is on the outside.
That $&88 in the middle could just as well be wired off to the side as an external circuit.


Make 4 pancake coils. Two are 2x the size of the other two.
Follow Stiffler’s instructions and tune one to a freq. you can produce
Either with a signal generator or a timer circuit, etc.
Use that one as your reference, and wind/unwind the other pancakes until
they all spike at that tune.


Next drive the One big coil from the signal.
Put a cap across the other and sandwich it between the smaller ones.


Now bring the coil you are driving close enough for the stack to pick it up.
what you do with that output it up to you


You will need a capacitance and an inductance to get it out of there without
destructively interfering with the stacking signal.
You can do this in pretty much any way you choose.


 think of the two toroids in the middle as being a 4-coil transformer
Even though it has two separate cores, the math would basically be the same if
it were all one inductive mass.
In reality there is a difference between the two, which it is my understanding that
this causes an inefficiency. because they are sloppily wound.
(and a subsequent beat freq. arising from the difference)
it really doesn’t matter.

The way SM is doing that is storing it in caps between the coils to form a tank and

Kick it back to the receiver.
they weren’t all bucking coil dual toroids. And half the time he covered up the middle circuit.
probably because it was too simple to show anyone.




You’d think at least some of these would be replicators at least grew up with a crystal radio kit....
We’ve lost and forgotten more than we could ever teach our children.....



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 06, 2020, 07:37:47 PM
Something always has to drive the signal.
The most efficient way to do this is a Tesla Coil.
and how does it receive power? ???


From another Tesla coil transmitting the signal.
Like your radio station (without the noise)


Stiffler used a signal generator on his bench
which drove a matched coil.
The other coil(s) he made into a circuit to pick it up.


SM doesn’t need to drive his source, it exists naturally.
Tesla did the same with many different sources.
The most famous one powered an automobile, tuned to the slow
binary frequency of the Zeta Reticuli twin stars.

Bruce showed us how to do it both ways.
One from a “mysterious source”.....
Then one from a source that was seen.
and you can see how much work he had to put in to get just a few
to understand what he had been telling them for years.
There’s enough data from him to keep a student busy for hundreds of hours.


Schools teach us to do the opposite of this.
They say it destroys our circuits, then they give us inadequate components to prove
that it will burn out the part.
Maybe 1/100 realizes the truth and attempts to use higher tolerance components and a sink.


What would happen if we designed a bridge to shake in the wind on purpose?
Do you understand what kind of power that generator would produce?
At that point you aren’t talking about a “conversion rate”....



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 07, 2020, 01:20:27 AM
Is the TPU superior technology than Kapanadze?

Really? How so?

The problenm with the TPU, theres too much dicking around and not enough solid drawings on what the coil looked like.

As much as I try I find myself more frustrated the more I wish to "lock it down" a solid base design.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Thaelin on January 07, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
   Not sure this has any merit to this subject but I have been mulling this over for a long time. TDR has an interesting quality that the bounced signal on an open ended line combines with the next signal sent. That means double the input voltage initial. Add to that, a signal trace will seek out a ground plane closest to it to have reference to. Remember when Steven said when the unit hit "catalist" it would explode due to the fast rise in power converted. How many mili seconds would you need to have at frequency the doubleing of voltage in the system. Just a scant few in reality. Was one wire of the 125v lamp cord the un-terminated signal line and the other the ground reference? And the outer coils around it just the recievers in parallel for current generation? Look into the rules for designing circuit board paths posted some time back and it will show you the do's and don'ts of the trade. Now take that and purposefully disobey the rules and generate back ringing.  TPU in a box maybe? Because, Steven did break the rules to get the result he found. Normal rules say to destroy the very thing we are searching for.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 07, 2020, 05:00:03 PM
Steven hid his secrets way way deep.

Show me this link of your theory and make a drawing.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 07, 2020, 05:16:37 PM
It’s not a theory.
It’s simple physics.


What it looked like isn’t the issue. More of a sales gimmick.
Toroid sounded fancy back then.


Take a multitude of vibrational oscillators
Operate a single one and the rest will pick up the tune
And start ringing on their own.


Metronomes, tuning forks, resonance tubes,
Antenna, and ..... wait for it...... coils
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 07, 2020, 05:40:10 PM
A theory should lead to a drawing.

If you cant make a drawing you dont understand the theory, you just imagine like you do.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 07, 2020, 09:30:11 PM
So we come back to the problem of the TPU.

From my original comparison between it and the Kapanadze.

This is the result of Steven Marks leaving us crumbs. Not even a circuit to tease us.

I am going to agree with Mr Durban and say it was probably simple.

I am thinking that perhaps a custom evolution of the TPU can be made, with counter pulsing primary to cancel their magnetic field and create node points.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 08, 2020, 12:55:56 AM
Would you like me to draw it in color cartoon for you?
Maybe a stick man sketch?


Or how about in living color??




https://youtu.be/lXyG68_caV4 (https://youtu.be/lXyG68_caV4)


https://youtu.be/AQT-t4HQmGo (https://youtu.be/AQT-t4HQmGo)


https://youtu.be/5v5eBf2KwF8 (https://youtu.be/5v5eBf2KwF8)


https://youtu.be/aCocQa2Bcuc (https://youtu.be/aCocQa2Bcuc)


https://youtu.be/AM6lkdAPBAs (https://youtu.be/AM6lkdAPBAs)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 09, 2020, 04:18:31 AM
Ok well if you know please make it and have the decency to tease us with a video thats not fake.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 09, 2020, 04:25:32 AM
What would be the point?
Scroll back or read the other TPU threads.


You aren’t new to this place.


Short from driving to your house to show you
a 60-Hz antennae or an earth-battery rectifier
or disconnect the speaker from a crystal radio and
using the current to power something.....


Tesla spent a lifetime trying to teach the sheeple.
They burnt his house destroyed his tower and lifetimes
have been spent trying to learn from him.


You demand me to be your “minion”?
Prove yourself worthy to live in my world.


This thread is about CREATING the TPU.
Are you creating one?
Or just telling people to chase the donkey so they don’t
figure out how?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 09, 2020, 04:54:21 AM
The technology hidden in your microwave magnetron
can do this with one solid state piece.
A flat plate of metal with holes of a very specific size.


The new spacecom THz channel receiver looks like
a triangle with a triangle cut out of the center.


Wired straight to a pick-up coil.
and can receive a signal from some of our most distant space craft.


To pick up SM’s actual frequency, the hole in your metal plate would
be the (mean) diameter of the earth: 23,852 miles or something.
This is why he uses a much higher resonant octave.


To make a plate with a hole the size of SM’s wire is still to large for us
But, wait!!!!




SM already did all of the math!!!
He took his equation down to the microwaves!!!
Pages of numericals to a higher precision decimal than required by ANY
eningeering corporation on Earth.


We already know how to make a Schumann resonant microwave receiver.
This is the simplest form of TPU.
A metal plate with the right size hole.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 09, 2020, 05:09:24 AM
give the signal a tank circuit and it will build up and blow your capacitor
(like trying to capture a resonant joule thief)
Now if you place the tank inside a transformer
(SM’s TPU is a giant 3-coil air-core transformer)
the secondary and 3rd coils pick up a portion of the signal.
these then run through a capacitance circuit which stores the potential
in a specific manner.


Never mind his particular set-up, I will try to explain the “what he does with it”,
and hopefully you can see there are many ways to do this.


one coil stores the potential in one way and the other is opposite.
Each 1/2 cycle they switch.
In essence they work like a single induction coil, (as a 2-coil transformer would).
But there is a self-amplification that occurs because the two fields oppose one another
through the inductive core. This is accomplished by winding one in the opposite direction.
His double-core arrangement causes confusion, you can use a larger single core and do
the same. (PMH)
But this circuit is not necessary.
Any “load” will suffice for proof of concept.


The “magic” is in the antenna.
It is designed to pick up a specific frequency.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 09, 2020, 05:13:20 AM
Tune your crystal radio to a clear station
Then replace the earbud with a capacitor.


(No I’m not buying you a new circuit board,
    consider it the cost of education)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 09, 2020, 04:20:07 PM
It hurts my eye to read such garbage when a simple drawing would suffice.

All we can do is experiment and hope it was not a well organized hoax.

Anything less than a proposed drawing is complete dogshit at this point.

The fact that you cant make a drawing or schematic shows that you are just grasping at straws, your explanations are nebulous, and your overcompensation is tiring.

Anything can be hoaxed, and theres plenty of reasons why such a thing could be a hoax, so I am cautious before I become passionnate about such things.

It is simply something to be experimentd upon, because I stay positive, its nothing more than that, And for that theres needs to be a blueprint.

I guess we come back to the original problem of the TPU, Steven Marks never shared the details.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on January 09, 2020, 04:53:22 PM
Tool,your passion ??....it is "You" [a mirror licker ]
to pretend yourself a benevolent caring human ??
Umm I apologize.... actually you are very honest that way ...a definite "taker" ,whom we would only see the dust from once given a bone...or somebodies working idea...we know that about you!....but it really doesn't matter in an open source Venue...except that you don't "fit" the model of sharing
Smokey shares plenty ,as well his experiences and wonderful intuition.
You ?...you could teach "taking" lessons [advanced class...even "automated while you sleep taking"..."AI" ..."next level pilferage"...
relax its open source here [except in your space]
 ???



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 09, 2020, 05:12:32 PM
I dont feel like I pilfered anything, these was nothing of use, all worthless negatives from time wasters.

Any ROI made in this industry were people selling equipment.

Other than that, nothing came of it.

Just recently there may have been more reveals than usual, on the Kapanadze side of things, but prior to that nothing.

And that has nothing to do with OU.com

Nothing to pilfer, never pilfered.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: cukurs555 on January 13, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
Good afternoon.

Has anyone found any newspaper publications about Steven Mark TPU?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 24, 2020, 01:15:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cqk7fijGG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcD6cP9JQnY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqk8zkmYWQ

TPU coil information

Crashangel.

Watch that video, carefully, zoom in there with all your concentration, listen to Wesley. Draw it each step of the way.

Bring that coil design, the one from the dissassembly.

Watch it over and over again, you will know the secret of the TPU and the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8_DJr0TTg
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 05:13:25 AM
Tpu open, all visible, scope shoots, frequency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXbNVCLF2u0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzei4PUW5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcD6cP9JQnY&t=780s

More about it:

https://overunity.com/12109/tpu-revolution/
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 05:43:05 AM
From another source

Original Russian and translated doc.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 04:46:52 PM
Resonant circuits can be very powerful.

Example is made in LTSpice, and it serves just as illustration.
In this case if we use source 220V, 50 Hz, and in resonant circuit capacitor 100 uF, and inductor of 100 mH,
resonance will be achieved.

Power (measured on capacitor) will start to grow, and it won't stop.
It will go up to infinity.

You can see that on power graph of first 100 mS, and on power graph of first 5 sec.

Our resonant device will soon evaporate if the process continue.

One way to avoid that is deliberately change capacitance of cap, just a little bit, so max resonance will not happen.
Or to change inductance of inductor, adding or removing few turns, killing the max resonance and disaster.

Like tuning a radio.

That part is tunable and can be done.
Tuning cap or inductor.

The problem is how to tap into that energy, and not to disturb resonance?

Do you think that perpendicular windings which do not affect each other, and can transfer power between them,
have something with solution to that?

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 05:33:04 PM
At what point in the inogda demo does he actually disconnect it from the power supply?

At what point does he clearly measure OU measurement.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 05:54:39 PM
I don't wanna go into stupid debate.
And I don't claim anything.
Just observing, which can be of course also wrong.

He does not disconnect it. It is not looped self runner.
But, consumption is visible on battery side.
It is an old guy, and I don't believe it is fake.

He has 3 coils in series, one signal.
All 3 coils are in series with little tunable capacitor.
All 3 coils are on iron core. Shape does not matter.
Ends of iron core are output points.

All 3 coils are perpendicular to iron core (just a piece of iron).
Or iron core is perpendicular to 3 input coils, and iron core is just wire for extracting power.

In this video he tunes small cap to achieve better output at 4:26.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

He said that frequency is 5 uS. He uses small tunable cap, so it can be.
For lower frequencies, bigger cap is needed.

In that type of resonant circuit are 3 factors which affect resonance.
Frequency, capacitor capacitance and inductor inductance.

So frequency does not have to be high, but other 2 factors must be tuned to match frequency.
Use LTSpice and play with circuit to find your values.



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 06:04:09 PM
If this resonant circuit can achieve this levels of power?
The field on inductor must be massive!

If the field is gigantic? , how it will affect any piece of metal placed (as core) perpendicular to inductor.
Or any piece of metal in vicinity?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 06:20:11 PM
Its certainly a proposal to be considered, and to be taken with a grain of salt.

Now if only I spoke russian this material could be useable.

Looking through your old thread on overunity alot of the links are gone, we have however a drawing.

Now I cant see the thread and see what Inogda himself was saying and what are the problems he encountered :(

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 06:22:41 PM
And if the core is closed loop, and shape matters,
which also make sense, current circulate in endless loop,
heating the iron core a lot, but,
there is well known Tesla Hairpin effect for extraction of potential,
from that type of loop.

The iron core closer to inductor field is more squeezed than far part,
and difference between 2 points can exists, so yea, Tesla Hairpin could work in that case.

Keep in mind that this is not ordinary induction,
it is more like squeeze the iron by huge field of inductor.

https://waveguide.blog/brief-history-tesla-hairpin-circuit-stout-copper-bars/

Maybe core must be closed loop?
Who knows?

Look video again, it is all visible, and how core is made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

The only question here is how to extract power from resonant circuit and not to affect it, destroy resonance,
everything else is well known science.
And ordinary induction as we know it, can not be used.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 07:03:25 PM
If it interacts with the earth, then it must be like Schwartz and Kapanadze, so Melnichenko must have been on the right track.

And it must be related to partnerred output coils

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/delayed-conduction-in-bucking-coils/
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 07:50:38 PM
Study what Chris means by a "SLAP", and where it happens and how to generate.

This is like a 3 coil slap machine.

Dont mess with LTspice and that Tesla patent is not it, I dont think so, is there a non-inductive setup?

LTspice giving you OU and you basing anything on that is silly.  Its good for designing power pulsers and the like but it ends there.

Study study and bring back your findings. Here

What happens at the slap moment? Can we steal this moment for our own greedy needs, how?

I also wonder if  china silver or a slightly magnetic allow, as recommended by Otto would allow a slower frequency operation vs copper core? As was done By Acula.

Still HUGE holes in general understanding.

--------------------------------------------

As a general question, the position of the Wave Slap zone standing wave? What is special about that node in space? Can this node be played with? Can another circuit hack this spot?


Go, and gather the knowledge, bring it here.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 08:14:58 PM
Watch the Akula video, slowly, try to find a video not fast forward.

Sketch it as best you can,

Zoom in there with all your concentration, work those eyeballs.

Bring it here.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 08:48:28 PM
Resonant LC tank circuit is known science, not OU.
The power wave from LTSpice becomes huge because it constantly adds power from source to existing oscillations.
So, it is not OU.
But nobody manage to extract energy from resonant oscillations without destroying resonance,
which is the point of my posts.

Well, Kapanadze did, so it is possible, if he did not lie, which is possible also.

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

Quote:
The circuit can act as an electrical resonator, an electrical analogue of a tuning fork,
storing energy oscillating at the circuit's resonant frequency.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
The resonance is not LC resonance.

Please see the links provided.

The resonance is at point of highest voltage when inputting signals into bucking coils.

It is something else.

Study hard, think clearly, bring back the knowledge, here.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
The resonance is not LC resonance.

Please see the links provided.

The resonance is at point of highest voltage when inputting signals into bucking coils.

It is something else.

Study hard, think clearly, bring back the knowledge, here.

There are many types of resonance effects in nature.
It is not strictly related to only electrical circuits.
And bucking coils are not related to LC circuit, but, both have resonant point and different input resonant parameters.
Bucking coils are LL circuit, in LL, C is not of huge importance as in LC circuit where oscillations depends on C!
Resonance can be achieved in bucking circuit, same as in LC circuit.

In essence it means: Best combination of input parameters for best desired output result.
Tuning fork has best length of prongs and best space between prongs to achieve desired frequency and best long time oscillations,
and then it's prongs are in resonance.

About resonance in LC tank circuit from the same Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

Resonance effect in LC circuit: (Wikipedia)
Resonance occurs when an LC circuit is driven from an external source at an angular frequency ω0 at which the inductive and capacitive reactances are equal in magnitude. The frequency at which this equality holds for the particular circuit is called the resonant frequency.

Applications:
The resonance effect of the LC circuit has many important applications in signal processing and communications systems.

Yes, you should study hard as you said.
Or, at least read more!
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 25, 2020, 10:00:46 PM
Correct! You do know more than me.

Bring back anything you think is of significance.

Perhaps you will figure a way of mixing both to an advantage.

Keep an open mind.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 10:33:12 PM
Correct! You do know more than me.

Bring back anything you think is of significance.

Perhaps you will figure a way of mixing both to an advantage.

Keep an open mind.

Tool,

It is not important who knows more.
Any suggestion or information, from anyone, is important.
Kapanadze surely has not have bachelor of electrical science, and he did marvelous machine.
So, knowledge is not always measure for success!

I will keep an open mind, and if I can use bucking coil principle, I will certainly do.
I already tried lots with bucking coils and it is not new to me.

And I appreciate your posts, because, to every theory should be opposition which push truth to the surface.

It was my opinion, and observations.
Does not need to be true, but can be inspiration to someone else who will make right conclusions.


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 25, 2020, 11:27:34 PM
Tool,

Why I don't think that bucking coils are not relevant to device from video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

On each coil he has arrow. All 3 coils has arrows pointing in same direction.
He draw them to not mount them in reverse polarity.
Arrows probably means that field in them is orientated in 
same direction, not in bucking style.

Why I pointed this video?
It has circuit board which is signal generator, 3 driving coils,
tunable cap and that 2 floors round iron core which is perpendicular to driving coils,
not so many components,
so it is easier to identify which is which on that little device.
The whole circuit board is one signal generator and nothing else of electronic components are not present.
He stated that.
And I can see all the wiring.
The bulb is 300W.

Akula and others have much more components and TTL stuff, and is harder to examine.

Also, the old guy from video shows how input pulse looks like on scope.

I also know very little of Russian, but enough to understand keywords like input signal,
power or tunable resonance.
And I use online speech translator from Russian, which is not quite precise, but can give the picture.
At some point he said that it is same as Steven Mark device.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 26, 2020, 12:50:21 AM
Well I am simply curious as to what manifestations happen at the point in space where currents meet. And what are my options as it pertains to this area. This area can happen in many materials, and follow a rythm even.

I am also wondering, if this whole area cant be moved around as I wish using signals.

The very question of this area is interresting....

What is special in the area of space?

Also, I am not sure anymore if we need many od these "points", I think that the surrounding material would react very rapidly in filling a void, even if that point would be small it could be very powerful and have much capacity.

As if you were trying to heat a very small point on a very large copper plane, well you will never solder that component.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 26, 2020, 02:17:16 AM
If it is LC resonant circuit and field is very powerful around input 3 coils? , then
upper ring is in center of field and bottom iron ring is smaller and away from field,
which can create difference in potential in rings.

Because upper ring is perpendicular to 3 driving coils, it does not disturb resonance.
Lower ring is well outside coils, so he also does not disturb resonance, but is still in field area of that 3 coils.
They are not inductively connected to 3 driving coil, because ring is perpendicular to coils, which is the main point of whole story.

Also, surface area of rings are different.
Upper ring is larger and more surface is exposed to field.
Bottom is smaller and less surface is exposed to field of 3 driving coils, and is also little bit far away from coils.

Truth is, I can not know for sure, can only speculate at this point.
Have to make LC resonant tank, and wrap it around piece of iron and observe what happens.
Everything else is just Mumbo Jumbo talk, and speculation.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 26, 2020, 02:20:42 AM
TPU Inogda1.part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

Here is translation of online youtube speech to text converter of that video,
which is probably very inacurate, but can give some sound to silence.

that is, in theory, these programs can be made a little shorter shorter and thicker
Well, now the most important thing is that everyone has fun.
300 W lamp seriously so that you don’t always find it on sale.
Yes, the point is not the current consumption and voltage of the digital circuitry of the digital part of Semenov’s policy management, but it actually turns out to be slightly less.
Well, everything works before and let's go.
dad went on feces went on darling account without setting up without anything and with mine what we use in general the most reliable testimony is obtained just by measuring the current on the wire the current clamps that measure and direct and alternating current is that we end up with 12V from the battery 4 ampere hours a hole for the lamp to work 300 Watt the lamp is slightly brighter the choice of heat is released more than it shines clearly hot.
But you're already in the woods, well, you're just a friend, she can Denis registan can be a hotline hot.
Well then thinks to Each generator that creates a non-555 cafe capacitor 12495 its position is approximate, where everything comes more than that.

What needs to be done in the lines so that you don’t have to look for the resonance of the Nice copper;
exactly the same thing, two floors two rings Check this out seriously.

Well, who knows it is serious and not serious, an expensive condition, we did not try to overclock the maximum voltage here the current source works what you need to study for the active load the lamp is 300 watts see amperes 0,1 A hell just shit the lamp power is hot and when consumed 0,1 A it's fucked up.
This is Stephen Mark sure, water of the community you want to show the displacement of the door I want here the displacement is still here to catch.
So you just went to grow to watch nothing at all.

On what kind of radio you can be so beautiful it was written there very much catch tuning as a radio.

Movie fucking 0 you caught 0,1
that's fucking 0 amp
fucking at 10 amperes the lamp is on Ahuyet you can keep negative you can't keep something somewhere fucking 0 amperes
0 ampere really
fucking where we have the Earth
wait
Wait the Earth should be.
This is what they wanted to see on the shutters, fucking zeros, fucking photos.
Take off please who won there take off now it stretched it what happens on the shutters of field workers clearly filmed everything the best work on lyrics that wake up under the contract.
Now wait takes off, fucking that going on the arrow.
Yes, fuck, fucked up where the Earth is closer.

And how OSU Earth look what’s going on in the drain like this and so it’s really cool and you don’t need a divider to school now you need to turn on the picture on the drain what’s going on here now we have 100 volts in the cell and time is worth fucking the sheets will need 5 microseconds further each phase will itself be done by 1 phase.
Yes all day will be the same.

What you need to get so much.
Now if we start to stretch all this, we see here, that’s what it is all the shock impulse that provoke the whole process.
Yes, pulling up as best as possible.
Again, 100 volts in the cell and the same 5 microseconds, well, there are already 0.5 you are already unfastened?
You can make it 560 like this.
Like this will only have a shock Impulse arrive on the shutter when the device is working this goes far does not show that 0 amperes we are still limper upset me nothing will change there 0 amperes
always 0 ampere outsider shutter full description.

Well, let's raise it so that it is better to see what tomorrow plans are to adjust; the signal on the shutter; the shutter ringing; these are generally positive characteristics in this case, transistors do not need to be shielded in what colors I think enough again, we have 0 amperes, once again the lamp glows again, heating says my dick, hold your hands and there it goes the power supply of the digital part itself.
We draw conclusions braking and wait until that doesn’t remove the most interesting moments.
everyone can judge the current consumption by the spark of other devices better and more precisely.
I can’t show anyone who saw device.
Turned on
turned on and off
turned on
turned off
Olympia 60 amp in the tap beats recklessly as if she doesn't have a real fuck CT scans are not well,
so that part of the brand new there, he was looking to tweak somewhere a0.
Well, at least it pops up while I'm tuning,
But here is Ber dimming the diode lamp, turn here and then here you can hear the gap that when I jerk.
Well, I don’t really need to see anything.
Well, the whole course has already ended.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 26, 2020, 03:33:26 PM
Keep an open mind.

Inogda1 was also seeking for explanations.

This translation sounds like the rambling of confused man. ;D

This reminds me of the time when I brought russian videos to somebody.

Only for it to be useless...

Go read Chris Sykes, now this goes back to SM a bit and the node area.

He recapped this thread at the end, go to thr total end.

http://aboveunity.com/thread/non-inductive-experiment/

Then, I want you to confirm me this patent app and its coil configuration, iN FIG 10.

http://www.rexresearch.com/craig/craig.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpAA3qeOYiI

Bismuth will bend and curl the field of 6 coils (bucking coils I think), and from the opposing current there will be a middle sonze when both bismuth push back, and it will be curled. A computer could show us how it looks like.

Now its weird, sometimes I wonder if these pulse things dont make the field come back across and block wall momentarily, whats the rule when you have a large clred up field and you pulse real hard. would this be slower to react since its so large??

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 04:09:43 AM
http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/current-and-voltage-amplification-key-to-energy-machines/

This will be my last post lnking to this site.

Bathe yourself in the knowledge and come up with a coil, and when you do, bring it here.

I collect all coils. I collect collector coils you can say. The collector of collectors.

Through electronic wizardry, A hustler can hack the game, and collect power.

Also, you still havent zoomed in on the dissasembly of Akula's TPU, bring that too, while you're at it.

One step at a time, draw it. Bring that here, WORK! It will be wort it, I also have my collection of hardly acquired designs.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on January 27, 2020, 06:05:49 PM
You have knowledge that can save lives and extinctions and our planet and you make excuses for with holding this Knowledge
How do you put your head on the pillow at night...how many must Die ? how many species must pass..etc etc

In 2015 The ,"above" man showed up with 1.7 OU claim schematics and all...everybody who replicated had no success [sounds like Whatisit above too [no success ??]
Then came flame wars ...everybody here was Bad guy ,every rock had Bad guy hiding behind it even many Times Calling Stefan evil something or other ...all Kinds of anti Semite stuff Mixed in[Myself born to Christian Parents From NYC has me reborn as Jewish..with much Evil Jewish writings/claims mixed in etc etc

Much Hate from this guy ,all his nasty comments got him banned [broke German laws no choice]
then he had Russian friend here changing posts [and bragging about hacking skills too] and inserting banned persons new posts for several weeks...
he says he was not hacker [just benefited] and now makes more words around whole incident..?
Hacker sent Torrid PMs re Wesley and Jewish etc etc [nauseating stuff..

and now you bring him again here for reboot ...Five plus years....How about enuff finger pointing and make believe "the Bad guys made me stop sharing My OU circuit"
how about post all his claims for scrutinypost his site as long as you wish [if science/experiments ..not excuses and finger pointing nonsense

Because I have spoken to no man anywhere who found OU in his first claim.
dozens and dozens years and years...tonnes of experiments ..

this forum is open source {i am quite certain we would never see you again Tool if you find OU here.
you path has been made very clear..
does not matter ,people should know what you are and "so be it" [at least you tell them


so Post OU experiments/claims for replication   till your fingers bleed
enuff excuses ,the world needs this ...desperately.
plenty good open source men toiling here and elsewhere...
no excuses from them..you want to change the world Be that change









Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
You are so so lost... I simply am in love with Shapovalov.

The men should be fit and hard fighting tennis players. Did I mention a race ?

I thank all the Einsteins and such... But its time to move on.

It should be adjusted, so that every representative is there.

And there should be AAA females also, scientists. Who studies hard? Did I mention a race ?

What are we gonna get with your idea 100 years from now?

Do you want a Weinstein running the show or a Shapovalov running the show? Whos mad because nobody wants to touch his pipi? Whos got an abundance of offers to touch his pipi and needs to sort it out?

Yeah its that simple, the only reason why people push themselves is so they can mate. So now when everything is run by robots basically and there is OU what comes next?

Shouldnt we jsut say to hell with this and put everybody's best cards on the table and reshuffle?

Some sort of Harmony, in the contuinity of a permanently relaxed super-race?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 27, 2020, 07:24:10 PM
You are so so lost... I simply am in love with Shapovalov.

The men should be fit and hard fighting tennis players. Did I mention a race ?

I thank all the Einsteins and such... But its time to move on.

It should be adjusted, so that every representative is there.

And there should be AAA females also, scientists. Who studies hard? Did I mention a race ?

What are we gonna get with your idea 100 years from now?

Do you want a Weinstein running the show or a Shapovalov running the show? Whos mad because nobody wants to touch his pipi? Whos got an abundance of offers to touch his pipi and needs to sort it out?

The reason why we are here on this forum is because we are all lost,
that includes you as well.
Otherwise, you won't be here and posting.
We are all trying to find working OU device concept and restore balance of power in the world in favor of little guy.
And with it a better life.
For many poor people this device means life itself.

So I don't see it as a joke like you do.


Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
And if you were to have it, and then get it confiscated.

This is exactly the excuse they will give you, you cant be trusted.

Can they ?

Simply pre-empting their excuse they will serve to the decision makers.

Their answer will be denial and segmented ruling class.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 27, 2020, 07:39:52 PM
And if you were to have it, and then get it confiscated.

This is exactly the excuse they will give you, you cant be trusted.

Can they ?

Simply pre-empting their excuse they will serve to the decision makers.

Their answer will be denial and segmented ruling class.

I am earning enough for my life.
And I don't need money from OU device.
If I make it, it will be distributed to world far away from internet and forums.
It is the only way it can reach the world.

I don't wanna to sell it.

That is why people like me, is the most dangerous threat to oil power of the world,
and others interested to suppress it.

Will I find it? Probably not!
But I can make an effort to help the others to do it,
and I am doing it because I love it, as well.

And you don't know what will happen when device meets the world.
Lots of poor people will be happy.
With few evil one? There is military to deal with them.
That is the purpose of military, isn't it?
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 07:45:47 PM
Yeah they will confiscate, like you say.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 27, 2020, 07:55:45 PM
Yeah they will confiscate, like you say.

When it reaches India, how exactly you can confiscate from billions?
And billion people will not be happy to give it back.
Billion people, even with stick in their hands, is billion people!

For evil ones, who will abuse the tech, there is military to deal with them!
Sounds simple and it is simple.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on January 27, 2020, 08:08:24 PM
"S" Billion"s"in need....Whatisit Don't show this To Tool Guy.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA)
he wasn't here for "R" "F" bannings.. .This very good customer Of "RF" [you tube in link] is doing some very nice investigation with RF sample product.
now he moves to DS and works thru in a very nice way .still no conclusions But ? I received this the other day did not want to post here because RF might stop shipping pieces to this guy if he starts writing the wrong words or results...will get moved to RF's thread when he's finished.
enuff is enuff....
and Yes Whatisit...no stopping the Camel once its nose is under the tent...



Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 08:13:24 PM
The problem we're gonna face also now.

Is that most likely Federer and Djokovic, Nadal, will never again be surpassed.

For us to see an evolution of that, would take some unnatural intervention.

I mean, there's got to be a point where you say alrite, this is just not a man, this is a god.

Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 27, 2020, 08:29:54 PM
Tool,

By this time you should realize that I am using you.
From first post I saw that you don't have a clue about what I am talking to you,
and I made another role for you here.
I am using our conversations to present idea, not to you,
but to the readers who wanna make difference.

So, you been only tool to me.
You making up questions so I don't have to think what to say.
You been very useful to me!

Even, as a tool, you do participate in process and you should be happy.

As I said before, and you did not understand what I meant,
it is good to have you as opposition in order to squeeze the truth to the surface.

I said what I meant, and you are no longer needed, so you can carry on with your stuff!

Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 08:39:19 PM
It was my pleasure to serve as your tool.

It was masterful strategy.

Well played. ::)
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on January 27, 2020, 09:27:12 PM
toolofcortex
Quote
You are so so lost... I simply am in love with Shapovalov.
The men should be fit and hard fighting tennis players. Did I mention a race ?
I thank all the Einsteins and such... But its time to move on.

Sports goes all the way back to the Roman Colosseum as a way to distract the ignorant masses from the corruption and greed of mankind. Look see the funny people chase the rubber ball, look see the funny people play with the rubber balls until they are too old and stupid to play any more.

I have found sports does two things very well, 1) it breeds toxic competitiveness and barbarism like we see in animals and 2) it distracts people from reality so they can continue to act like children and never really grow up and take responsibility. It's kind of sick to be honest, that so many supposed adults would be so completely obsessed with glorifying other people who would spend there lives chasing with rubber balls.

Soon, when the shit hits the fan playing silly children's games will the least of most people concerns.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 27, 2020, 09:45:41 PM
"S" Billion"s"in need....Whatisit Don't show this To Tool Guy.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA)
he wasn't here for "R" "F" bannings.. .This very good customer Of "RF" [you tube in link] is doing some very nice investigation with RF sample product.
now he moves to DS and works thru in a very nice way .still no conclusions But ? I received this the other day did not want to post here because RF might stop shipping pieces to this guy if he starts writing the wrong words or results...will get moved to RF's thread when he's finished.
enuff is enuff....
and Yes Whatisit...no stopping the Camel once its nose is under the tent...

You realized the need of many and the truth, and is good that more and more of people think that way.

To sell it one time and enjoy for a while and possibility to be killed in a process,
or to give it to the world and enjoy for the rest of our lives in fruits which it brings?
I feel that our human nature is on test here.

Excellent video. Bruno VT made great find.
Yea, the RF? I remember. Most of us had to flee away while that episode was played.

Now I remembered that I saw that type of config in Kapanadze video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9VhcDZYKg
At the time I thought how he is using unusual type of output transformer, it puzzled me for a while, and then I forgot.

3 output coils inside 1 outer coil.
Probably is nothing, but the video you posted reminded me of that.

I don't wanna to disrupt you thought here, I just remembered that and wanted to post it.

Anyway the video you posted is excellent, and RF could loose customers,
or he can take the find of Bruno VK, author of video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA
and later claim it as his own, which can expand his business.
He did that before.

We will probably see that episode of RF as well.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: ramset on January 27, 2020, 11:38:10 PM
I believe he has moved onto Don Smith ["RF" source claim ??] now and continues deeper investigations ...into the claim

To be clear his investigation is ongoing ,one thing is certain he is a teacher ,not a hider and shows such in an organized and linear investigation with good measurement protocols...[for scrutiny]
Member itsu also showed such results and experiments and presented them for scrutiny here [correction/help  etc etc]but was left flat by RF when it came to help....his "you can't prove anything on the internet"
he says this with his Bare face hanging out ??stupefying !!

Bruno is actually experimenting with tried and tested "RF shipped" inventory...lots of it ...and going deeper...his following videosafter this one I posted from December https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRatpa2VPA)
some of his pictures and experiments. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNPKjbW8QjG_wc5ffA7YRHmfx992ivWww6rhr33Mmw_EPOg6PhjGLhUFlAPNx5CUA/photo/AF1QipPKpkwj2QW3aMWHPXmufwzDyC8ta5ucpmNSJQOO?key=OXFYdWQzZTdNWHFFSVU3bHM1ZzJjMUlkVG5yVC1n


big off topic mess to clean up in this thread now
sorry




Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: WhatIsIt on January 28, 2020, 01:06:33 AM
Ramset,

excellent videos of Bruno VK.
I watched few before bed time.

Serial/parallel LC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDmmybMXylc

As Tesla said, only in resonant circuits we will find surplus energy.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 12:57:46 PM
See my post in food for tought.

No LC resonance, if LC is there, OK.

But now we almost have a workable model, or should I say 9 possibilities? Loose wires flexible design.

Perhaps an AI can be established?

We will see something... Play with this Idea.... See the waves and their echos, as a powerful magnetic field steals them all away.

We must creale holes, for cheaper.

Just 3 standing waves terminated or shorted at weird spots and nodes at a few spots, uncluding the core ring.

You can shoot a few pulses at your 3 networks and the delay of it all will create nodes and voltages at different spots.

What we work with is the echo of these waves, nothing really goes in a loop its a diversion.

Work you fools! Its here...
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 02:45:57 AM
Ok does anybody have a design?

I have a couple. It has to do with 3 cores, segmented.

3 pulse systems, Bifilar. I gonna "pump the ether".

What you think?

Whats your design?

You running late on your errands.

The Akula TPU? When you gonna do complete analysis slow motion high quality?

Bring me those Akula plans in design form, and I will share my design.

Do a quality job, zoom in there.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: onepower on January 29, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
toolofcortex
Quote
Ok does anybody have a design?
I have a couple. It has to do with 3 cores, segmented.
3 pulse systems, Bifilar. I gonna "pump the ether".
What you think?

What do I think, honestly?... if this is your game plan your screwed, your just gonna gonna "pump the ether", Doh.

Let me put this in perspective for you, 50 years ago a man by the name of T.H.Moray who was probably more knowledgeable than everyone here in many respects dedicated 30 years of his life in order to find a partial answer to the problem your trying to solve. Keep in mind he built a fairly small device that had an output of 20 kW tested in the middle of a desert.

I know, I know it sounds beyond belief however UFO's were also beyond belief and then the Navy released video's and basically said yes you morons not only do we have video but also a decades long research program we also lied about. So yes, we fed you lies for decades but now that we got caught in so many lies that we cannot lie any more, now were being honest. Oh really?, as if coming clean on decades of lies would actually qualify as honesty... what a shit show.

In any case, apparently the real problem is that the aliens navigating these UFO's have said they are in fact our gods. Which is kind of bad news for 80% of humanity because they screwed up. You know, it's a god, it's a god... uhm hey hold on, no we were wrong, and a trillion dollar industry based on lies is now kaput. They were really just a bunch of really intelligent, spindly grey blokes looking for a good time who were radicalized by mostly uneducated overweight elderly white males... oh sound familiar?.

There is one truth... our children will always be infinitely smarter than we are because they will know and see a future we cannot even imagine. Our children, as we were children will inherent the Earth we leave them. Don't be a fucking loser, we can do better, our children depend on us doing better. 
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 03:28:14 PM
Wow, lazy people here.

No dissecting the video.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
An error in the TPU topic?

Well if you know the error, please point it out and add a coil to my collection.

I reviewed all that could be reviewed and I have designs right now.

If you cooperate... And do all that I say... For instance.

Ordering Whatisit to do a complete 100% dissection of Akula's and drawing it.

Ordering Turbo, to explain his Kick technique, as that you can compare with mine.

I try to sit you down, shut you up, and see what it is you propose, but there was a point where rhetoric is used to dodge and ignore questions.

There was no "Order" before I entered the TPU thread.
Title: Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
I can go on and on with these standing wave designs.

Its one after the other....

Mix n Match, whatever shape you want? You want the wave to flow how?

I guess theres nothing more to say now is there? Since everything is all russian gibberish anyways.

Who do I got on my team? The Schwartz.