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WhatIsIt

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #270 on: January 25, 2020, 05:54:39 PM »
I don't wanna go into stupid debate.
And I don't claim anything.
Just observing, which can be of course also wrong.

He does not disconnect it. It is not looped self runner.
But, consumption is visible on battery side.
It is an old guy, and I don't believe it is fake.

He has 3 coils in series, one signal.
All 3 coils are in series with little tunable capacitor.
All 3 coils are on iron core. Shape does not matter.
Ends of iron core are output points.

All 3 coils are perpendicular to iron core (just a piece of iron).
Or iron core is perpendicular to 3 input coils, and iron core is just wire for extracting power.

In this video he tunes small cap to achieve better output at 4:26.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

He said that frequency is 5 uS. He uses small tunable cap, so it can be.
For lower frequencies, bigger cap is needed.

In that type of resonant circuit are 3 factors which affect resonance.
Frequency, capacitor capacitance and inductor inductance.

So frequency does not have to be high, but other 2 factors must be tuned to match frequency.
Use LTSpice and play with circuit to find your values.




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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #271 on: January 25, 2020, 06:04:09 PM »
If this resonant circuit can achieve this levels of power?
The field on inductor must be massive!

If the field is gigantic? , how it will affect any piece of metal placed (as core) perpendicular to inductor.
Or any piece of metal in vicinity?

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #272 on: January 25, 2020, 06:20:11 PM »
Its certainly a proposal to be considered, and to be taken with a grain of salt.

Now if only I spoke russian this material could be useable.

Looking through your old thread on overunity alot of the links are gone, we have however a drawing.

Now I cant see the thread and see what Inogda himself was saying and what are the problems he encountered :(


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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #273 on: January 25, 2020, 06:22:41 PM »
And if the core is closed loop, and shape matters,
which also make sense, current circulate in endless loop,
heating the iron core a lot, but,
there is well known Tesla Hairpin effect for extraction of potential,
from that type of loop.

The iron core closer to inductor field is more squeezed than far part,
and difference between 2 points can exists, so yea, Tesla Hairpin could work in that case.

Keep in mind that this is not ordinary induction,
it is more like squeeze the iron by huge field of inductor.

https://waveguide.blog/brief-history-tesla-hairpin-circuit-stout-copper-bars/

Maybe core must be closed loop?
Who knows?

Look video again, it is all visible, and how core is made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

The only question here is how to extract power from resonant circuit and not to affect it, destroy resonance,
everything else is well known science.
And ordinary induction as we know it, can not be used.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #274 on: January 25, 2020, 07:03:25 PM »
If it interacts with the earth, then it must be like Schwartz and Kapanadze, so Melnichenko must have been on the right track.

And it must be related to partnerred output coils

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/delayed-conduction-in-bucking-coils/

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #275 on: January 25, 2020, 07:50:38 PM »
Study what Chris means by a "SLAP", and where it happens and how to generate.

This is like a 3 coil slap machine.

Dont mess with LTspice and that Tesla patent is not it, I dont think so, is there a non-inductive setup?

LTspice giving you OU and you basing anything on that is silly.  Its good for designing power pulsers and the like but it ends there.

Study study and bring back your findings. Here

What happens at the slap moment? Can we steal this moment for our own greedy needs, how?

I also wonder if  china silver or a slightly magnetic allow, as recommended by Otto would allow a slower frequency operation vs copper core? As was done By Acula.

Still HUGE holes in general understanding.

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As a general question, the position of the Wave Slap zone standing wave? What is special about that node in space? Can this node be played with? Can another circuit hack this spot?


Go, and gather the knowledge, bring it here.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #276 on: January 25, 2020, 08:14:58 PM »
Watch the Akula video, slowly, try to find a video not fast forward.

Sketch it as best you can,

Zoom in there with all your concentration, work those eyeballs.

Bring it here.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #277 on: January 25, 2020, 08:48:28 PM »
Resonant LC tank circuit is known science, not OU.
The power wave from LTSpice becomes huge because it constantly adds power from source to existing oscillations.
So, it is not OU.
But nobody manage to extract energy from resonant oscillations without destroying resonance,
which is the point of my posts.

Well, Kapanadze did, so it is possible, if he did not lie, which is possible also.

Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

Quote:
The circuit can act as an electrical resonator, an electrical analogue of a tuning fork,
storing energy oscillating at the circuit's resonant frequency.


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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #278 on: January 25, 2020, 09:16:42 PM »
The resonance is not LC resonance.

Please see the links provided.

The resonance is at point of highest voltage when inputting signals into bucking coils.

It is something else.

Study hard, think clearly, bring back the knowledge, here.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #279 on: January 25, 2020, 09:52:32 PM »
The resonance is not LC resonance.

Please see the links provided.

The resonance is at point of highest voltage when inputting signals into bucking coils.

It is something else.

Study hard, think clearly, bring back the knowledge, here.

There are many types of resonance effects in nature.
It is not strictly related to only electrical circuits.
And bucking coils are not related to LC circuit, but, both have resonant point and different input resonant parameters.
Bucking coils are LL circuit, in LL, C is not of huge importance as in LC circuit where oscillations depends on C!
Resonance can be achieved in bucking circuit, same as in LC circuit.

In essence it means: Best combination of input parameters for best desired output result.
Tuning fork has best length of prongs and best space between prongs to achieve desired frequency and best long time oscillations,
and then it's prongs are in resonance.

About resonance in LC tank circuit from the same Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

Resonance effect in LC circuit: (Wikipedia)
Resonance occurs when an LC circuit is driven from an external source at an angular frequency ω0 at which the inductive and capacitive reactances are equal in magnitude. The frequency at which this equality holds for the particular circuit is called the resonant frequency.

Applications:
The resonance effect of the LC circuit has many important applications in signal processing and communications systems.

Yes, you should study hard as you said.
Or, at least read more!

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #280 on: January 25, 2020, 10:00:46 PM »
Correct! You do know more than me.

Bring back anything you think is of significance.

Perhaps you will figure a way of mixing both to an advantage.

Keep an open mind.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #281 on: January 25, 2020, 10:33:12 PM »
Correct! You do know more than me.

Bring back anything you think is of significance.

Perhaps you will figure a way of mixing both to an advantage.

Keep an open mind.

Tool,

It is not important who knows more.
Any suggestion or information, from anyone, is important.
Kapanadze surely has not have bachelor of electrical science, and he did marvelous machine.
So, knowledge is not always measure for success!

I will keep an open mind, and if I can use bucking coil principle, I will certainly do.
I already tried lots with bucking coils and it is not new to me.

And I appreciate your posts, because, to every theory should be opposition which push truth to the surface.

It was my opinion, and observations.
Does not need to be true, but can be inspiration to someone else who will make right conclusions.



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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #282 on: January 25, 2020, 11:27:34 PM »
Tool,

Why I don't think that bucking coils are not relevant to device from video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRB-NSczJak

On each coil he has arrow. All 3 coils has arrows pointing in same direction.
He draw them to not mount them in reverse polarity.
Arrows probably means that field in them is orientated in 
same direction, not in bucking style.

Why I pointed this video?
It has circuit board which is signal generator, 3 driving coils,
tunable cap and that 2 floors round iron core which is perpendicular to driving coils,
not so many components,
so it is easier to identify which is which on that little device.
The whole circuit board is one signal generator and nothing else of electronic components are not present.
He stated that.
And I can see all the wiring.
The bulb is 300W.

Akula and others have much more components and TTL stuff, and is harder to examine.

Also, the old guy from video shows how input pulse looks like on scope.

I also know very little of Russian, but enough to understand keywords like input signal,
power or tunable resonance.
And I use online speech translator from Russian, which is not quite precise, but can give the picture.
At some point he said that it is same as Steven Mark device.


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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #283 on: January 26, 2020, 12:50:21 AM »
Well I am simply curious as to what manifestations happen at the point in space where currents meet. And what are my options as it pertains to this area. This area can happen in many materials, and follow a rythm even.

I am also wondering, if this whole area cant be moved around as I wish using signals.

The very question of this area is interresting....

What is special in the area of space?

Also, I am not sure anymore if we need many od these "points", I think that the surrounding material would react very rapidly in filling a void, even if that point would be small it could be very powerful and have much capacity.

As if you were trying to heat a very small point on a very large copper plane, well you will never solder that component.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #284 on: January 26, 2020, 02:17:16 AM »
If it is LC resonant circuit and field is very powerful around input 3 coils? , then
upper ring is in center of field and bottom iron ring is smaller and away from field,
which can create difference in potential in rings.

Because upper ring is perpendicular to 3 driving coils, it does not disturb resonance.
Lower ring is well outside coils, so he also does not disturb resonance, but is still in field area of that 3 coils.
They are not inductively connected to 3 driving coil, because ring is perpendicular to coils, which is the main point of whole story.

Also, surface area of rings are different.
Upper ring is larger and more surface is exposed to field.
Bottom is smaller and less surface is exposed to field of 3 driving coils, and is also little bit far away from coils.

Truth is, I can not know for sure, can only speculate at this point.
Have to make LC resonant tank, and wrap it around piece of iron and observe what happens.
Everything else is just Mumbo Jumbo talk, and speculation.