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crashangel · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2019, 02:04:07 AM »

Holy mother of god ...

hehehe

There are many parameters that need to be very well aligned, defined and synchronized for this device to work ...

I will take into consideration everything everyone is teaching me and try to pay as much attention as possible at the time of construction and initial testing ...

Gratitude...

Jeg · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2019, 08:02:35 AM »

Quote from: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 12:35:13 AM

Yes it's a physical link.

Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards

icarus · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2019, 08:13:00 AM »

Ok, this is the code:

//this sketch produces 3 signals on output pins 3, 5 and 9, with adjustable frequency and duty cycle
//minimum frequency 36 Hz max 2MHz

#include <PWM.h>

void setup() {
int dc1; //duty cycle from 1 to 100
int dc2;
int dc3;

Serial.begin(9600);

InitTimers();

long freq_1 = 40000 ; //frequency 1
long freq_2 = 90000; //frequency 2
long freq_3 = 10000; //frequency 3

SetPinFrequency(3, freq_1); //pin out on 3 5 e 9
SetPinFrequency(5, freq_2);
SetPinFrequency(9, freq_3);

dc1=20; //duty cycle settings
dc2=10;
dc3=50;

pwmWrite(3, (256*dc1)/100);
pwmWrite(5, (256*dc2)/100);
pwmWrite(9, (256*dc3)/100);

}

void loop() {
}

Jeg · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2019, 08:25:14 AM »

Quote from: icarus on September 18, 2019, 08:13:00 AM

Ok, this is the code:

//this sketch produces 3 signals on output pins 3, 5 and 9, with adjustable frequency and duty cycle
//minimum frequency 36 Hz max 2MHz

#include <PWM.h>

void setup() {
int dc1; //duty cycle from 1 to 100
int dc2;
int dc3;

Serial.begin(9600);

InitTimers();

long freq_1 = 40000 ; //frequency 1
long freq_2 = 90000; //frequency 2
long freq_3 = 10000; //frequency 3

SetPinFrequency(3, freq_1); //pin out on 3 5 e 9
SetPinFrequency(5, freq_2);
SetPinFrequency(9, freq_3);

dc1=20; //duty cycle settings
dc2=10;
dc3=50;

pwmWrite(3, (256*dc1)/100);
pwmWrite(5, (256*dc2)/100);
pwmWrite(9, (256*dc3)/100);

}

void loop() {
}

Just great.
Appreciated!

Turbo · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2019, 10:42:54 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:02:35 AM

Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards

I can certainly see some similarities in that picture.
There is just one difference i do not know if that picture has one or more turns, but they seem to be interleaved.
And Steven was very specific about it when he wrote:

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About the collector:
It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved.
Three is important.

For a long time we thought it was 3 separate coils stacked on top of one another but when Steven saw this design, he mentioned that it was wrong.

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Sent to: tao on: June 28, 2006, 04:04:44 AM
Tao,By the way.. When Steven said that you have the secret he said in another mail among other things that
you have the collector and contol winding relationship the wrong way..Ie excitation into control... allows the
collector the perform magnetic conversion.

So i eventually came to the conclusion that i had to be 3 horizontal coils on top of each other in the horizontal plane.

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What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

Steven was very specific in his writings about the frequency's he wrote that were directly related to either the circumference, or the diameter of the coil.
Not so much the length of wire which you would expect in terms of wavelength.
The large units had a slow vibration but the smaller ones vibrated at a higher frequency.

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In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.

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I made an amp and had a really difficult time with a 35K resonance.
I had so much trouble with it that I finally left the resonance there.
I last measured it at 35.705K at a really high level.
It is a good thing that I can't hear that high.
But it does prove that my output transformer is capable of going up to 245 KHZ.
Which I measured.
HEY, did you know that the frequency is proportional to the speaker's circumference?
it appears that the frequency should change with the circumference of the speaker.
That makes sense to you does it?
No one I have talked to realizes that yet.

I use 15" speakers myself.

They are 15" from the dead center of the outside flange to the other sides flange.
You know transistors just don't do well at those high frequencies.
They try hard but they just make all sorts of harmonics all over the place.
dirty things transistors.
MOSFETS are better you know if you wanted to make an amplifier that behaved as though it was a tube amp but in a smaller size.

Also notice the fields in image 18.. feeding these coils with several frequencies would definitely make them vibrate like a speaker.

Turbo · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2019, 10:50:44 AM »

What also caught my attention was that the same setup and number of coils is being used in modern MRI and NMR equipment.
These coils slide into each other.

Jeg · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2019, 01:22:58 PM »

Hi Turbo
Thanks for the answers.

The "vibration" part is very interesting and needs some discussion. i have created vibrations by using beat frequencies a lot of times for several projects. Perhaps the vibration part of SM's is a side effect of a modulated signal, occured by the synthesis of the higher harmonics more, than a simple acoustic resonance of a some kind of cavity which doesn't exist anyway in SM's devices. What is your opinion on that?

Jeg · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2019, 01:58:55 PM »

Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?

T-1000 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2019, 04:30:03 PM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 01:58:55 PM

Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?

The more critical and right question there would be how inventor (SM was just a seller) made electrons move along wire in solid state coils between magnetic fields of magnets. Which also brings topic about how to simulate moving magnet from multiple coils on same base...

Turbo · « **Reply #24 on:** September 18, 2019, 05:42:59 PM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 01:22:58 PM

Hi Turbo
Thanks for the answers.

The "vibration" part is very interesting and needs some discussion. i have created vibrations by using beat frequencies a lot of times for several projects. Perhaps the vibration part of SM's is a side effect of a modulated signal, occured by the synthesis of the higher harmonics more, than a simple acoustic resonance of a some kind of cavity which doesn't exist anyway in SM's devices. What is your opinion on that?

It could be way simpler then most people are thinking.

From what i had understood, the vibration is a result of magnetic heterodyning
Apparently Steven was mixing frequencies to produce another beat or center frequency.
Many people speculated that the device was tapping into the Shumann Resonanance because Steven wrote about Tesla and his lightning experiments.
The coils are way too small to resonate with these huge magnetic waves that are centered around 7.8 Hertz, but if you somehow could make the coil appear bigger, or resonate with a field by generating a field with a close matched base frequency, then it could be something to look into.
Certainly a 15 inch subwoofer can generate a 7.8 Hertz frequency so that could represent the magnetic transducer.

Also i spoke to people who actually have held several of these devices in their hands while in operation and the gyroscopic effect might be too fancy a word for the property.
As they explained to me it felt very similar to an electric sander, the hand held electric power tool.
This effect is relatively easy to recreate by setting up some bucking fields and would sure enough give the impression or appearance of a gyroscopic effect but does not necessarily have to be a high quality rotating field at all.

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My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio.
The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.

Turbo · « **Reply #25 on:** September 18, 2019, 05:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 01:58:55 PM

Don't you think that this device uses just two collector coils and not control coils at all?

I can not see inside so the only answer i can give is i don't know.
It could be 2 it could be 3 they build many.

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We built many, many units with various combinations of collectors during our experimental days.
My colleagues and I have a recollection of about thee hundred being crushed up because they were not the best designs.

Jeg · « **Reply #26 on:** September 18, 2019, 08:50:43 PM »

Quote from: Turbo on September 18, 2019, 05:45:46 PM

I can not see inside so the only answer i can give is i don't know.
It could be 2 it could be 3 they build many.

Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Turbo · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2019, 09:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:50:43 PM

Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Its control wiring around each of the collector coils and additionally control wires around all of the coils together.
So it could still be in there, its a guessing game really.
And not all coils used the same configuration model.
It's best to work with what is known then to try and guess the unknown.

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Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second,then the third.

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In many of our designs we use three coils as the collector.
they can be run parallel to give higher current lower voltage output at excitation.
They can be run in series to create high voltage, lower current when reaching the point of excitation.
We have used other multiples of run of wire as well in various units construction.
Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.

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The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.
Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete control of the unit most of the time.

crashangel · « **Reply #28 on:** September 19, 2019, 07:22:46 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:50:43 PM

Looks like a working model. Does anyone see any control coils?? At 8.26 I see some portions with tape. Perhaps there they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4

Someone then realized that the torus blade, even though it is hooded, is very thick and should be about 3 to 4 centimeters .... Watch it while he holds it in his hands. 2:39 in video
As much as I wanted to coat the coil I had initially made, it would never reach the width I watch in the video ...
One question: Coils on top of each other glued together and as much as they have control coils would not disturb or undo the induction of the next? It seems that it is necessary to have an airy space between each coils with their respective controls ... I did not get to see any construction of this type. What do you think, is there any logical sense in electronics and would it be plausible to build a device using this feature?

crashangel · « **Reply #29 on:** September 19, 2019, 07:36:58 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on September 18, 2019, 08:02:35 AM

Like keshe coils (first image). When current flows we have a growing magnetic field in two planes. In the document you uploaded, SM called it as a ball shape magnetic field (due to rotation). Think of the shape of a normal inductor which creates the classic donut flux shape magnetic field but... rotating. (Second image). The overall shape would be indeed like a ball.
An other reason that points to a physical connection is simply that there is no induction between two perpendicular coils. What ever frequency someone uses at his control coils there is no way to affect the collector coils.

What makes me wonder is SM's statement about the correct set of frequencies depending on the circumference of the device. Difficult for me to comprehend it except... if his collectors are just one turn around the ciscumference. If they consist of more than one turns in series, then i find it more appropriate to go with the total length of the coils and not by the circumference.

In general i think that it is a game of trying to magnify a stationery wave by using some of its harmonics. 1-3-5 as mentioned in previous page look quite convincing for doing this. But needs synchronization between frequency components of cource!

Regards

I've been thinking of just nano-coating the wires ... so that the plasma would flow like a river above the copper wire ... I've already created some devices like this ... unlike the shape you can always measure some voltage. ... I don't know if I made a torus-shaped coil even if the control coils would be able to excite the collecting coil .... but surely I'm still curious because if on keshe devices there is a field flowing and creating magnetic lines I could somehow study how they are doing freely without an initial kick being present ... Maybe with much less voltage could make the coil get in the way ... I don't know, it's still a theory and if the control coil works. ..

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