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Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« on: September 06, 2019, 08:25:16 AM »
Hi Over Unity I spent this past month studying what I could find from Steven Mark's Toroid Power Unity and decided to start building a small study version ....
I would like someone to help you understand the assembly correctly and some tips on wiring ....

I made a small 12 x 5 cm toroid.
The collector has 3 layers of wire with the first and second having 11 turns and the third used a slightly thicker wire totaling nine turns ...

The controllers used the same 14-wire Green / Yellow wire and the 14-wire thick white wire.

What I could find in Steven mark's messages is that sometimes he talks about potential difference ... So I used a different wire layer too so I can use it as a kick to start the magnetic loop ...

Now I have some questions that I would like to be helped so that I can take proper care and concern when starting the tests with the frequencies ....

1. The two wires left of the winding of the 3 coils of my collector I will use for output, is that right?

2. I need to create a mechanism for frequency cancellation, right? so that it does not go into a loop that is not returning and different than expected ... I do it on my control coils right ??? Just interrupting the frequencies I'll be sending is enough for the device to turn off if it's producing any voltage ...

3. Is it easier to try to harmonize the device by testing separate frequencies for each control coil or is it better to leave them all in sequence and use an input-only signal for modulation ??? I have a control coil with a slightly thicker wire to try to kick the collecting coil ...

4. I do not have a frequency generating equipment so I am thinking of using my computer and testing from music production software by sending the notes via a virtual keyboard to the device ... is it feasible ??? Would you have to plug in a 5 volt transformer to amplify the signal ???
Would anyone have a more appropriate idea ???

Well, the ideas that came into my mind have only reached this small level of understanding ... I know ... I would be grateful if anyone were interested in giving me some direction in the right direction so that I don't end up doing something stupid. .

Gratitude....

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2019, 11:29:40 AM »
Hi Over Unity I spent this past month studying what I could find from Steven Mark's Toroid Power Unity and decided to start building a small study version ....
I would like someone to help you understand the assembly correctly and some tips on wiring ....

I made a small 12 x 5 cm toroid.
The collector has 3 layers of wire with the first and second having 11 turns and the third used a slightly thicker wire totaling nine turns ...

The controllers used the same 14-wire Green / Yellow wire and the 14-wire thick white wire.

What I could find in Steven mark's messages is that sometimes he talks about potential difference ... So I used a different wire layer too so I can use it as a kick to start the magnetic loop ...

Now I have some questions that I would like to be helped so that I can take proper care and concern when starting the tests with the frequencies ....

1. The two wires left of the winding of the 3 coils of my collector I will use for output, is that right?

2. I need to create a mechanism for frequency cancellation, right? so that it does not go into a loop that is not returning and different than expected ... I do it on my control coils right ??? Just interrupting the frequencies I'll be sending is enough for the device to turn off if it's producing any voltage ...

3. Is it easier to try to harmonize the device by testing separate frequencies for each control coil or is it better to leave them all in sequence and use an input-only signal for modulation ??? I have a control coil with a slightly thicker wire to try to kick the collecting coil ...

4. I do not have a frequency generating equipment so I am thinking of using my computer and testing from music production software by sending the notes via a virtual keyboard to the device ... is it feasible ??? Would you have to plug in a 5 volt transformer to amplify the signal ???
Would anyone have a more appropriate idea ???

Well, the ideas that came into my mind have only reached this small level of understanding ... I know ... I would be grateful if anyone were interested in giving me some direction in the right direction so that I don't end up doing something stupid. .

Gratitude....

Dear crashangel.

You have almost stumbled upon the right coil configuration.
You are almost there but you missed some crucial points.

Here is some safety information about the materials you used for the coils:

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By the way, we found that ordinary multi strand lamp cable
worked very well for use as a collector.
Thick gage wire can dissipate the heat very well but there are two
problems.
First the heavy gage wire isn't as efficient as the multi strand copper and
also there is a safety advantage in using the multi strand lamp cable.
If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too
much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage.
The multi strand wire will just burn up and open the circuit whereas the
heavy gage wire will continue to conduct until there will be the equivalent
of a lightning strike of the unit.


Here is some info from the docs on the collector coil:

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The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together./td]


1.
These horizontal coils are your collector:

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You can do many things with three coils.
You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.

2.
No you do not need a mechanism of cancellation, this pattern is a result of how the coils interact with each other and the combination of feed frequencies: 

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with the right combination of frequencies, you can actually create a revolving field with inertial!

3.
There is some information about the frequency feeds:

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you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.

Please do not take this lightly.
The frequency components are critical to your level of success.
You won't succeed with a battery and a diode.

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You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be.

But remember this:

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First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.

So this means that there is a relationship between these signals.

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Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillationand control.

So this shows that there is also a link between collectors and control coils.
From this you can extract a lot of usable information if you read it carefully.

4.
A sound card is very limited and you might damage your computer. ( this happened to me way back in 2006)
It can only go up to about a 20 KiloHertz.

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I made an amp and had a really difficult time with a 35K resonance.
I had so much trouble with it that I finally left the resonance there.
I last measured it at 35.705K at a really high level.
It is a good thing that I can't hear that high.
But it does prove that my output transformer is capable of going up to 245K HZ.
Which I measured.

Luckily we have seen a microprocessor boom and you can order ready made usable controller boards everywhere on the net.
It's not hard to learn how to program these things and they run on crystal so they are rock solid.

My findings were as follows, do it right, know why you do what you do.
Don't wrap a coil and hope that it will magically start to deliver electricity when you hook it up to your sound card.
There is more to it.
Realize that because it is important.
Many people have wasted so much time on this.
Make sure you do it right.

if you want to re read the docs i composed, i will attach a copy.
And there is more info some was never published but i would have to look for it specifically in my archives.
If you think you need it let me know.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2019, 09:48:25 PM »
Dear crashangel.

You have almost stumbled upon the right coil configuration.
You are almost there but you missed some crucial points.

Here is some safety information about the materials you used for the coils:


Here is some info from the docs on the collector coil:


1.
These horizontal coils are your collector:

2.
No you do not need a mechanism of cancellation, this pattern is a result of how the coils interact with each other and the combination of feed frequencies: 

3.
There is some information about the frequency feeds:

Please do not take this lightly.
The frequency components are critical to your level of success.
You won't succeed with a battery and a diode.

But remember this:

So this means that there is a relationship between these signals.

So this shows that there is also a link between collectors and control coils.
From this you can extract a lot of usable information if you read it carefully.

4.
A sound card is very limited and you might damage your computer. ( this happened to me way back in 2006)
It can only go up to about a 20 KiloHertz.

Luckily we have seen a microprocessor boom and you can order ready made usable controller boards everywhere on the net.
It's not hard to learn how to program these things and they run on crystal so they are rock solid.

My findings were as follows, do it right, know why you do what you do.
Don't wrap a coil and hope that it will magically start to deliver electricity when you hook it up to your sound card.
There is more to it.
Realize that because it is important.
Many people have wasted so much time on this.
Make sure you do it right.

if you want to re read the docs i composed, i will attach a copy.
And there is more info some was never published but i would have to look for it specifically in my archives.
If you think you need it let me know.

Hmmm ... I understand what you are telling me ...

I need to study and learn even more to be able to reach a higher level of understanding ... I have realized that just the basic understanding of the mechanism will not help me much in all the challenges that I have yet to face ... SM wrote that it is necessary We had the understanding of vacuum tubes first and that would help in developing these devices .... Do you know any good books to point me out?

Gratitude!!! ;)

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2019, 11:25:45 PM »
The best books for learning electronics are the ARRL Amateur Radio Operators handbooks.  If you can find an older copy from back in the 1960s they will have good info about vacuum tubes.  They usually come out with a new edition every few years but only the older ones of course will have info about vacuum tubes.  You can usually find the older ones on ebay or Amazon.  And of course another option would be an online course that covers the older theories of electronics.


Good luck and welcome to the forum.
Carroll

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2019, 12:09:29 AM »
Hello crashangel,
Search engines can also help you find good books.
http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf
PS In your 1st post you attached a picture that is oversized and widens this thread very much. 
This is because your horizontal picture size is 3680 pixels and forum software is set to accomodate
only 900 or so horizontal pixel numbers without widening the thread.
Unfortunately, you cannot edit your 1st post any more but next time please consider picture size
when you wish to upload.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2019, 04:39:20 AM »
Hello crashangel,
Search engines can also help you find good books.
http://milas.spb.ru/~kmg/files/literature/Morgan_Jones_Valve_Amplifiers_Third_Edition.pdf
PS In your 1st post you attached a picture that is oversized and widens this thread very much. 
This is because your horizontal picture size is 3680 pixels and forum software is set to accomodate
only 900 or so horizontal pixel numbers without widening the thread.
Unfortunately, you cannot edit your 1st post any more but next time please consider picture size
when you wish to upload.


Ok !  :-[

Thanks !!!

Gyula

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2019, 02:28:44 PM »
Don't worry about it.

You do not have to experiment with tubes or high voltage transformers.
In stead you can look at a cheap micro controller board with usb and breakout capabilities.
For example like Arduino or Raspberry.
This way you can program it using your computer and break out an opto coupler driven mosfet ir igbt power module to drive your coils.
It's all readily available and because of this you are in a good position.

Its also very easy to program them so i do not see any reason as to why you should not continue your current path.
The chances on a successful outcome, have never been better.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2019, 09:25:55 PM »
TPU has been discussed numeral times.
Nobody knows how TPU works.
I am interested in your attempt of building it.
I am still curious about its principle!

Give it a try!

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2019, 10:14:51 PM »
By the way, I found this on other TPU thread.
Maybe it helps.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2019, 08:47:58 AM »
Don't worry about it.

You do not have to experiment with tubes or high voltage transformers.
In stead you can look at a cheap micro controller board with usb and breakout capabilities.
For example like Arduino or Raspberry.
This way you can program it using your computer and break out an opto coupler driven mosfet ir igbt power module to drive your coils.
It's all readily available and because of this you are in a good position.

Its also very easy to program them so i do not see any reason as to why you should not continue your current path.
The chances on a successful outcome, have never been better.

Hummm!!!!

Great answer!!!!
I have been devoted to analyzing and still learning by watching the journey of all previous posts and events here on the overunity forum as well as how Bruce TPU's journey followed ....

I am having some ideas and I will follow the parameters of a new TPU with a separate controller for each coil as it appeared in some later posts ...
In favor of this I have some experience with Keshe Magrav technology in creating copper caustic soda nano coating ... which can be measured the power in devices producing power through plasma ... I know that is not exactly the specialized area of people here but can help me answer some of the gaps more easily as plasma provides a kind of energetic river running through the copper wire that can have measurable results without the need for a kick ... which I invariably know I still need to be doing even so...
The factor of putting frequencies in a coil has appeared to be quite real and it really works ... It seems to me that some have already solved these problems and know the answers and solutions that I will need to find in this turnaround challenge. ... I also agree and it seems very correct to me since no one in terms of power generation could achieve something undeserved ...

I know everyone is intent on helping me ... I will build new devices and try loops inside some aleton live audio software and see how our learning will unfold ....


I can already see and it seemed very authentic watching the videos of SM that the device really has a resistance and that has a vortex energy happening repeatedly ... I have a plasma device also here at home ... but that works with a lot less power .... The power generation for me is quite interesting ... but if I could have this twig working and also add the healing effects layer to amplify what I have on my device would really be the purposes I have Searched lately ... All the research I found and searching the far ends of the Internet I came across UFOs devices ... There is no way ... And I realized that well being and human health has always been linked to their access and control. devices and knowledge .... I am not religious ... but it seems to me quite realistic and prudent to be aware of whatever you are doing ...

I walk i don't have full english fluency ... i am using google translate ... some prepositions may appear incorrectly ... sorry ...


Gratitude....

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2019, 05:56:14 PM »
And on a side note i would advice you to stick to the documentation AND TO STAY AWAY FROM BRUCE for as far as possible.
It's a dead end.

Also and this is important, i would advice you to stick to the documentation, and do not try to compare to another technology or device, or to try and explain the device.
Those attempts are futile, in stead stick to the documents and use the WYSIWYG approach.

The docs never make any mention of a plasma but it does mention atomic, you can use keywords to search for things.

The coil configuration is in there and the fact that the frequency's have a harmonic relationship, and that something happens at a specific frequency combination, which is realted to the diameter or circumference of the collector coil.

This is a decent amount of information to get you started.

You do not have to listen to others.
You do not have to look at other devices.
You do not have to look for possible operational mechanism.

Everything you add will only result in more doubt and or more confusion.
You best bet would be to do exactly what the man wrote.


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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 08:56:21 AM »
And on a side note i would advice you to stick to the documentation AND TO STAY AWAY FROM BRUCE for as far as possible.
It's a dead end.

Also and this is important, i would advice you to stick to the documentation, and do not try to compare to another technology or device, or to try and explain the device.
Those attempts are futile, in stead stick to the documents and use the WYSIWYG approach.

The docs never make any mention of a plasma but it does mention atomic, you can use keywords to search for things.

The coil configuration is in there and the fact that the frequency's have a harmonic relationship, and that something happens at a specific frequency combination, which is realted to the diameter or circumference of the collector coil.

This is a decent amount of information to get you started.

You do not have to listen to others.
You do not have to look at other devices.
You do not have to look for possible operational mechanism.

Everything you add will only result in more doubt and or more confusion.
You best bet would be to do exactly what the man wrote.




Hmmm ... understood ...
It really seems to be the right thing to do ....
One more question I know I'll need before building a new device ...
How do I find out or calculate how often I will be using my pickup coil?

would anyone have any examples of the dimensions or documentation of a constructed coil that generated some kind of passing result? Following in someone's footsteps seems reliable and would also help a lot from the same point where a gap lies to be resolved ...

Thanks...

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2019, 02:42:49 PM »
An easy way to create 3 individually controllable frequencies is to use arduino.
I am attaching a very simple code that allows you to have 3 frequencies adjustable from 40 Hz to 2 MHz with duty cycle variable from 1 to 99%.

If you add a potentiometer (connected to the arduino output pin with the other two arms on the ground and positive) you can adjust the frequency on the fly. Same thing for duty cycle.

Before connecting mosfets use optocouplers, if you want them to last.

I have used it keeping a fixed (fundamental) frequency and determining the other two as third and fifth, as if it were a major music chord. As usual, no result.

Ciao

Icarus

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2019, 04:24:55 PM »
An easy way to create 3 individually controllable frequencies is to use arduino.
I am attaching a very simple code that allows you to have 3 frequencies adjustable from 40 Hz to 2 MHz with duty cycle variable from 1 to 99%.

If you add a potentiometer (connected to the arduino output pin with the other two arms on the ground and positive) you can adjust the frequency on the fly. Same thing for duty cycle.

Before connecting mosfets use optocouplers, if you want them to last.

I have used it keeping a fixed (fundamental) frequency and determining the other two as third and fifth, as if it were a major music chord. As usual, no result.

Ciao

Icarus

Thanks a lot for this offer. Unfortunately it seems that it didn't uploaded right. But you can copy paste the code on a post here if you have some time. :)

Turbo:

Thanks for the pdf. You mentioned about a link between control coils and collector. Do you mean a physical link? It would have some meaning as SM spoke about vortex and rotating magnetic fields in two planes. Also it would be really much appreciated if you could upload the missing info that you mentioned about.

Regards
Jeg

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2019, 12:35:13 AM »
Thanks a lot for this offer. Unfortunately it seems that it didn't uploaded right. But you can copy paste the code on a post here if you have some time. :)

Turbo:

Thanks for the pdf. You mentioned about a link between control coils and collector. Do you mean a physical link? It would have some meaning as SM spoke about vortex and rotating magnetic fields in two planes. Also it would be really much appreciated if you could upload the missing info that you mentioned about.

Regards
Jeg

Yes it's a physical link.

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Most of the most successful units we made had control wiring run or wrapped vertically over the horizontal collector wires.
You can se them in the units in some of the videos under black plastic covering.
They were run perpendicular to the travel of the collector wires.
They were run in multiple segments.

each segment could be fed a different frequency individually and
or from a collector section to help perpetuate the oscillationand
control.



This probably is some sort of feedback loop to feed back power back into the field to increase it's intensity or to force a directional component.
I do not want to go into a deep theory but i will say this:

The field around a coil grows and shrinks, as such it does not have a real directional component it just increases and decreases in it's intensity.

If your goal was to create a directional field you would have to use another coil to push or pull this growing and shrinking field.
Steven referred to this as squeezing the hose;

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You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more precisely.
You can think of the movement of water as the movement of electrons through the collector coils.


Another method to create a directional movement is when you switch from coil to coil, the minimum number required for a definite direction will be 3.

When you cut the current on a coil it will produce a high voltage spike.
This spike is the high speed imploding magnetic field, which collapses into the coil that generated it.
It doesn't really have a directional component because it shrinks evenly fast at all sides at the same time.
If you were to have the ability to control this implosion and force (or fire) it in one direction over a wire, by using other fields, the results could be unexpected.

I came to this conclusion after the transformer experiment.
Steven wrote:

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Anyway, I have taken a high voltage power supply as follows:
500 v-0-500 v 300 mV plate transformer run it through a full wave silicon circuit then run it through a 5U4 electron tube rectifier.
Now you know that the 5U4 requires 5 volts AC at 3 amps for its heater to gather the electrons and complete the circuit.
Well, I measured the output from the tube and the result is 500 volts DC at 250 mV.
The loss is due to the high impedance of the tube and its limited ability to dissipate more than 250 mA..
The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current!
They are both completely independent of each other except for some very interesting things I will mention to you some other
time..

First of all, obviously you can have several different output components in the power output signal.
You can have DC and AC together without any problem.


In this example you can find the following clue:
One half of the AC cycle the current is moving in the same direction or polarity, as the DC voltage, while the other half of the AC sine wave, the current will run in opposite direction from the DC voltage.

The DC voltage is dominating because it is at a much stronger level, so although the AC current runs in opposing direction in one half of the sine wave cycle, the result is always moving in one direction, the direction of the DC.

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You could describe the useable current output of my coil as DC but with some hash in it.

You can have DC and AC together without any problem.


Another element is that when you power up a coil with a constant DC voltage, the field becomes polarized.
The way it was explained to me is that (most) of the electrons spins inside metals will all line up in the same direction either at 0 or 180 degrees.
And then, in that polarized field, these spins can be precisely controlled by applying a high frequency RF field.
This ties into nuclear magnetic resonance, i didn't want to go there, but here we are.
 
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The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort.
They are only a means to achieve an end.

In the early units magnets were used to constitute the polarized DC field, in fact Steven was working with speakers and (double) voice coils which are also inside of a strong permanent magnetic field, and he was trying to create spatial sound effects, which incorporated feeding noise and delayed signals into these coils, somewhat later Steven wrote about 15 inch speakers, alas, the TPU is a gigantic nuclear powered triple voicecoil.

This is what happens when you start to theorize about the things that could be, and it is also why i mentioned sticking to the script, because in reality we just don't know.
But the man mentioned the atomic energy commission and a nuclear connection so thats been my primary direction of thought.

If it is, then it should not be hard to find, but it requires a definite and very targeted approach in taking on the correct sequence of actions that will eventually lead to the discovery of the so sought after result.

I will look for the archives.

 

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