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Offline WhatIsIt

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2019, 07:26:35 PM »
These pictures are wrong.
They show interleaved coils.

Hello Turbo!

Do you know anything about this pictures or where they came from?

It seems that you have much more informations that I have.
Can you share your knowledge?
What is wrong with this coils from picture? Are they originate from SM?
How the coils has to be arranged?

Thanks!

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2019, 08:00:45 PM »
The energy probably comes from Earth magnetic field. SM mentioned it at least twice.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2019, 09:04:07 PM »
As far as I know they are orgin from SM given to Mannix to spreed them to some members only. They had to keept them away from public to prevent SM from going in trouble with authorities.
It was somehow tested but unsuccessful. They have tried but in vain, because everyone has their own imagination and interpretation of what is to be seen.
Everyone builds something different then.What SM said?or thisAnd now look to the way he shows the winding. In my view It might be related to it.

I have been reading all these documents and trying to follow more or less the coordinates that you are giving me ...
It seems that there are different ways to make this work in the form of a small toroid ...

Impressive after so many years this kind of thing has not been released to be reproduced ... In addition to the problem of appearing investors in the future would also be to find good professionals who are reliable and who could be committed to results without taking advantage of the values ​​invested. ..

I thought I'd start with a simple toroid to see if I can get any measurable output ...

There are many metaphorical tracks left in these documents that you can put in the right direction if interpreted correctly ...

I have magnetite powder here and I was tempted to mix it with some resin to create a device seen in these other patents ... But I'll still start with the basics ...

1. As I understand the higher the number of wires in the collector the better for electron pickup .... I am using AWG 34 wire so that the number of turns and number of wires will be significant to answer the control coils .... The thread is so small that each layer looks like a ribbon ... I am making several layers to create only one collecting bobbin, be patient ....

2. The control coil I thought of doing in the Swatooth waveform.

3. For the spacing between one coil and another had a kind of insulating plastic that was in a box that came along with some equipment I bought in the past ...

It seems that the output can be rewired in the input so that the device is powered and also using capacitors, etc ... But this I ask later ...

I accept criticism and suggestions to improve or even redo whatever it takes according to the perception of what you are observing ...

thankful!

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2019, 03:55:59 AM »
Hello Turbo!

Do you know anything about this pictures or where they came from?

It seems that you have much more informations that I have.
Can you share your knowledge?
What is wrong with this coils from picture? Are they originate from SM?
How the coils has to be arranged?

Thanks!

No they are not coils from SM.
Those are very wrong in design.
They aren't on top of each other neither vertically nor horizontally because they are interleaved.
Too bad people keep injecting garbage into the tread.
You can use the searchable pdf file to find how its arranged.
Use search terms as collector and control and coils.

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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2019, 03:58:57 AM »
I have been reading all these documents and trying to follow more or less the coordinates that you are giving me ...
It seems that there are different ways to make this work in the form of a small toroid ...

Impressive after so many years this kind of thing has not been released to be reproduced ... In addition to the problem of appearing investors in the future would also be to find good professionals who are reliable and who could be committed to results without taking advantage of the values ​​invested. ..

I thought I'd start with a simple toroid to see if I can get any measurable output ...

There are many metaphorical tracks left in these documents that you can put in the right direction if interpreted correctly ...

I have magnetite powder here and I was tempted to mix it with some resin to create a device seen in these other patents ... But I'll still start with the basics ...

1. As I understand the higher the number of wires in the collector the better for electron pickup .... I am using AWG 34 wire so that the number of turns and number of wires will be significant to answer the control coils .... The thread is so small that each layer looks like a ribbon ... I am making several layers to create only one collecting bobbin, be patient ....

2. The control coil I thought of doing in the Swatooth waveform.

3. For the spacing between one coil and another had a kind of insulating plastic that was in a box that came along with some equipment I bought in the past ...

It seems that the output can be rewired in the input so that the device is powered and also using capacitors, etc ... But this I ask later ...

I accept criticism and suggestions to improve or even redo whatever it takes according to the perception of what you are observing ...

thankful!

I see you made another modification to the script.

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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2019, 03:58:57 AM »
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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2019, 04:03:08 AM »
The energy probably comes from Earth magnetic field. SM mentioned it at least twice.

If you answer like this please post the exact reference.

Like this:
 
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I mean we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field.
We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice.
However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from.
I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point.
And it isn't really important at this juncture.
All we can do is build bigger and better power units and continue our experiments till we do know for sure exactly what we are dealing with.
This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him.

I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea how the violin worked.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2019, 04:41:09 AM »
Just a note,Turbo has been at this for a long time ,he is not a newbie and has put more time into this than
can be measured .
As Turbo has mentioned .... today the tools to play [system management] are better than ever before and cheap too.we are also trying to get a funding method here for builders.
Also  members here are trying to get some important "bits" which may shed more light.
In the mean time ...Turbo has a very cogent direction ,from years of reverse engineering and hands on testing and experience.
exciting times indeed.
Turbo feel free to remove any inaccuracies in my post [or the whole post if?]also if you could remove or try to remove my test topic here https://overunity.com/18337/new-board-test/msg539226/#new [it may cause confusion]
if not ...no worries
much gratitude from here,
  Chet K, PS, there are certainly PLENTY of talented TPU fellows in the house...

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2019, 12:21:29 PM »
"About the collector:
 It is three separate coils of  multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. "

The collector coils are on top of the other.

Three is important.
 You can do many things  with three coils.  You can run them  in parallel, you  can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc
.

You can run a separate  frequency into each coil  for  better control on large power units if need be.
Is this mean that only one frequency is used, but separate frequency can be used in each coil?

The control wiring is vertically  wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.  Other control  wires are wound around all  of  the  horizontal collector coils together.
Here, the collector coils are horizontal?

First, the 3 collector coils are on top of each other, then collector coils are horizontal?
It makes no sense. How this arrangement looks like?

It also indicates only one frequency for all 3 coils? Separate frequencies can be used if needed?

I am little bit confused with this arrangement.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2019, 12:40:03 PM »
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Well as soon as I get my amp finished I will let you know if I have any
more problems with it.
But I like the sound and the power of it already.
Take care.
Sincerely,
By the way.
I have really THOUGHT about how to help you and the others.
I can not tell youtoo much about the design of the technology because the
company
who still owns the technology is reading my every word, as you know and
just waiting
to cut off my pension if I tell you too much.
BUT!
I want you to start and think of the generator principles the exact
same way that passing the sound barrier was accomplished.
Read how the engineers in this country finally developed the proper wing
design to accomplish super sonic speed in aircraft.
I hope it will give you a picture of what is going on inside the generator
and especially the collector.
Imagine that you have a cannon which fires a projectile at a velocity of
1000 miles an hour.
The amount of energy held in the moving projectile until converted is lets
say a figure of ten.
It will never become more then our figure of ten.
The energy will slowly dissipate until the projectile slows and begins to fall
to the ground and it's finale dissipation will occur when it strikes the earth
or the object it was aimed at.
Now, we have been told that there will never be more energy available
from the projectile other then what was given to it when first fired into the
sky, EXCEPT for the following example:
Now, there can be a further dissipation of energy if the projectile was
carrying a charge of dynamite to explode on impact as well.
Do you see how the different things all relate here?
Let me expand your mind for a moment....
Suppose that the projectile which you fired was another cannon?
Now you have another cannon traveling at 1000 miles an hour...
Now, if you could fire the second cannon, the projectile coming from it
would be traveling at a velocity of 1000 miles an hour after being fired.
However, since the cannon is already traveling at a speed of 1000 miles
an hour when you
fire it, the speed of the second fired projectile is essentially now 2000
miles per hour and the energy available to convert from the second     projectile, is now twice the ten available from the first projectile!
You now have energy availability of twenty to convert from the second
projectile.
Now, what if the projectile fired from the second cannon were another
cannon and you fired it.
Since the second cannon is traveling at 2000 miles per hour then the
projectile you fire from it would make 3000 miles per hour, and so on and
so on....
The energy released from the speed of multiple projectiles increases the
energy available to be dissipated upon impact many fold!
The faster the speed of ANYTHING the more energy will be available for
conversion.
A long time ago, i said, if you take a bullet and throw it at the side of an
automobile it
will bounce off.
However, if you place the bullet into a gun and fire it at the automobile it,
with sufficient velocity, go through the metal door and through the other
side because of the inertia energy available for conversion.
Speed is energy if you can convert the mass into energy quickly
enough!
Anything no matter how small can store enough energy to convert
into huge amounts of energy.
Even electrons.....................................
Now, electrons can travel only so fast along the surface of the wire
because of magnetic flux.
What if you disable the effects of the flux?
My unit operates on these principles.

Is he talking about wave superposition or more appropriately pulse superposition?


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If the unit goes too far on frequency it may begin to convert too
much current and try to dissipate way too much voltage.
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Is this why the voltages are slightly out of phase considering the energy produced if the waves are in phase?

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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2019, 12:50:49 PM »
each segment of control coils could be fed a different frequency individually  and or from a collector section to help  perpetuate the oscillationand control.

Here it said that control coils can be fed from collector coils?
Loop?
Another frequency from collector to control?

So many frequencies.
Or they are not different frequencies at all?
Only one?

I am trying to read this and make sense from all of that SM statements.
I dont know!

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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2019, 12:52:46 PM »
At one point he is feeding frequencies into colector coils.
At another he is feeding frequencies into control coils?

???

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2019, 02:39:54 PM »
1) Is he talking about wave superposition or more appropriately pulse superposition?


2) Is this why the voltages are slightly out of phase considering the energy produced if the waves are in phase?

tomd
1) That was my first thought. Three pulses the same time same direction. It would be a nice strating point.

2) By using beat frequency, phase changes all the time. At one moment and depending on the beat, both frequencies eventually align themeselves and both kicks are the one over the other. But there is also the third coil. I can't visualise how it would perform an action of this kind and what araingement needs for this.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2019, 02:50:23 PM »
At one point he is feeding frequencies into colector coils.
At another he is feeding frequencies into control coils?

???

Okay Whatisit you are making a lot of noise i have posted some explanations many years ago and i have updated them for you so that you can read it and understand a little bit more about how this all came to be.

I will re-post it for you to see if it can be of any assistance to you to help you to understand the process.

Here it is :

The first frequency generates the kicks.

What are the kicks ?

The kicks are a burst or release of high energetic particles in random directions.
These kicks are generated by a process that i have so far called 'stimulated nuclear transmutation'
Some difficult words, maybe, but don't walk away yet i can explain it in simple terms.
 
Alternating magnetic fields running at certain specific frequencies can alter nuclear conversion between the elements thereby releasing energy.
In the early transformer experiments, Steven hit on a NMR frequency of the iron transformer core, which in turn started to release massive amounts of kicks.
These kicks were released perpendicularly away from the core and were all flying away at high speed and in random directions.

This is what Steven observed in his very first experiments and he rightfully called them kicks.
This was not very efficient as such, but Steven indeed discovered and identified this as the bare-bone effect.

Notice this has got nothing to do with the earths magnetic field, but how on earth could he know what was going on?
So the earths magnetic field was his first thought as it would be mine, It's a pity most people still hold on to the old dream.

Okay back to the explanation:
Steven then discovered that when he run the transformers slightly out of phase, he could maximize the effect.

After he discovered the kicks, he was immediately facing a new problem because in those early experiments these small energy bursts were launching electrons away from the emitting iron cores in perpendicular lines, in random directions and he found it was hard and in-efficient to extract any real energy in coils by means of classical induction....,until he began to run the transformers slightly out of phase.
He noticed it made a difference when there was one transformer coil powered whilst the other generated the effect.

Thus he somehow figured out that a strong magnetic field was needed to force all of the chaotic radiated electrons in a straight line through a coil as soon as they were generated/released from the core.
This is somewhat similar to what a yoke does to control the electron beam in a CRT television tube.
And he knew how to do this, his education at the tv repair shop served him very,very well.

So, now this process is explained as follows:

The first frequency generates the kicks.(in random directions... chaos)

The second frequency energizes one of the (control) coils, right after the kicks are generated.
Because the kicks are high energetic (electron) particles, they will deflect when they enter/interact with the strong field created by the (control) coil that is energized by the secondary frequency.

This strong field will force all high speed electrons into ONE DIRECTION. <-- AND THIS is important ! (squeezing the hose)

This is called 'Combining hundreds of thousands of little kicks into one big current kick . . .'

So at this point we have 'rectified' or 'redirected' all of the kicks into one direction and this is the point where we fire the third frequency.

The third frequency creates another strong magnetic field (or pulse) and this deflects (or dumps..) the high energetic electron beam back into the collector coil, thereby generating the 'big current kick' Steven writes about in his memoirs.

So as such, the control coils are used to deflect the high energy particles and force them into one direction, and they are also used as a means to an end, to collect the energy into the collector coil(s).

I hope this helps you to understand the role the control coils play in the process.

Lets say these 3 events are called one cycle:

Generate - Deflect - Collect

It is possible (and likely) that Steven used permanent magnets to deflect these high energetic electron particles, in his early/first devices.
In that respect you could drop the 'tunnel' or secondary frequency, or if your setup/design is really clever, perhaps also the third... but that boils down to design.

Soon Steven developed mechanisms of using feedback involving multiple receiving coils in a way that he started the reaction from a power supply and then he extracted the energy from the first coil and used this energy to establish the strong needed electron deflecting magnetic field for the second coil and so on to the third and you guessed it, from the third to the first and now things started to look quite interesting...
He kept improving the designs and this eventually led to the famous videos everyone wants to know more about.
So here you have it, i hope it helps.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2019, 03:14:10 PM »
Hi Turbo,

Yes it helps.

Thank you for explanation!
I will read your old posts and try to catch up.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2019, 05:56:10 PM »
No they are not coils from SM.
Those are very wrong in design.
They aren't on top of each other neither vertically nor horizontally because they are interleaved.
Too bad people keep injecting garbage into the tread.
You can use the searchable pdf file to find how its arranged.
Use search terms as collector and control and coils.
Turbo, if you know it so good, where this picture is coming from and what do you know about them?You mean what is mentioned in the pdf file comes all from SM? Who was drawing the arrangement of the coils?


 

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