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Author Topic: Creating TPU Steven_Mark  (Read 85193 times)

Turbo

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2019, 08:17:09 AM »
I've been thinking of just nano-coating the wires ... so that the plasma would flow like a river above the copper wire ... I've already created some devices like this ... unlike the shape you can always measure some voltage. ... I don't know if I made a torus-shaped coil even if the control coils would be able to excite the collecting coil .... but surely I'm still curious because if on keshe devices there is a field flowing and creating magnetic lines I could somehow study how they are doing freely without an initial kick being present ... Maybe with much less voltage could make the coil get in the way ... I don't know, it's still a theory and if the control coil works. ..

This is the biggest mistake that many make.
They start to make adjustments to the design that are not in the book.
If you really want to succeed, it could be in your interest, to stick to the script.

Someone then realized that the torus blade, even though it is hooded, is very thick and should be about 3 to 4 centimeters .... Watch it while he holds it in his hands.  2:39 in video
As much as I wanted to coat the coil I had initially made, it would never reach the width I watch in the video ...
One question: Coils on top of each other glued together and as much as they have control coils would not disturb or undo the induction of the next? It seems that it is necessary to have an airy space between each coils with their respective controls ... I did not get to see any construction of this type. What do you think, is there any logical sense in electronics and would it be plausible to build a device using this feature?

If you follow the clues then you will have at least 7 layers of lamp cable, and possibly a means to support the construction.
Then there is a small controller board and possibly nine volts batteries as well depending on the unit shown.
We know he used what appeared to be cork like substances and a lot of hot glue and tape to keep it all together.

Jeg

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2019, 04:28:11 PM »
....If you follow the clues then you will have at least 7 layers of lamp cable, and possibly a means to support the construction.
Then there is a small controller board and possibly nine volts batteries as well depending on the unit shown.
We know he used what appeared to be cork like substances and a lot of hot glue and tape to keep it all together.

There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards

ARMCORTEX

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2019, 08:02:54 PM »
So, how sure are we of the physical build? Why doesnt somebody have a full schematic with representative signaling on each wire? Present your designs, you should have identified this basic thing, or maybe you are just grasping at straws?

So a working device has a high average dc voltage, with disregard for higher voltage pulses, and has also a low frequency
hum, that vibrates the coil.

So potentially if we installed this thing on a supportive platform sensor with 4 little spring on each quadrant and a signal processor unit we could potentially determine a coherent `precession` clue.

Any other tell tell signs?

Then using these 2 signs, it could be possible to setup a dual battery/charge recharge bank, and a sophisticated AI oscillator, that would log any frequency combinations, phase, should an abnormal even occur. With many coils running at once.

Maybe after a few months of operations we can get lucky. I dont think potentiometers is an option unless we go full Otto mode, ie, studying super hard and being smart+ years of dedication,+mental issues+ living like a hermit etc...

Judging by the looks of it, non of you are Otto`s to start with, where are your schemes?

One thing that grabbed my attention, you guys have mentionned that its impossible to magnetically couple, to any degree, the way both collector and control coil are wound(perpendicular). Does this mean that old man Otto, proved the impossible was doable, even tho he may not have had it working 100%, any output would have been significant? or was it all gibberish?

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2019, 07:15:35 AM »
You have to think of this as a time consuming chore, does anybody
Have time for such things?

Maybe, just maybe, there is enough valid info to determine a physical
Layout, and general driving signal. The frequency/pulse/phase is just numbers
Going into non functional device until...

The interesting part would be to develop an algorithm
That is more than just dumb luck, something flexible enough
To test various hypothesis and back.

In a New York mob accent... Forget about it...Room filled with TPU’s

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2019, 09:03:42 AM »
There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards

Is he referring to wave superposition?

The equation for energy of a wave is: w = a^2.
w = energy
a = amplitude of a wave.

When two waves with identical polarization, frequency, phase and amplitude propagate in the same direction and meet (and merge) in free space, then their amplitudes will add together and the amplitude of the resultant wave will be double that of a single input wave. This physical phenomenon is called superposition or interference of the waves, when (under the above conditions) the amplitude of the resultant wave is calculated by simply adding together the amplitudes of the incoming waves.

So the amplitude of the two merged waves is 2a. However the energy of the two merged waves is (2a)^2 = 4a^2. Before the waves merged there were two waves each having a^2 energy = 2a^2. But after they merged you have 4a^2 energy. So you have doubled the energy by merging the two waves. If we take two units of energy from the output and feed it back into the input, then there are still two units remaining for utilization and the process can go on continuously.

More here https://feprinciples.wordpress.com/h...d-explanation/

That article talks about microwaves however I'm thinking more along the lines of AC or pulsed DC current/voltage in a circuit.

Turbo

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2019, 09:27:42 AM »
You have to think of this as a time consuming chore, does anybody
Have time for such things?

Maybe, just maybe, there is enough valid info to determine a physical
Layout, and general driving signal. The frequency/pulse/phase is just numbers
Going into non functional device until...

The interesting part would be to develop an algorithm
That is more than just dumb luck, something flexible enough
To test various hypothesis and back.

In a New York mob accent... Forget about it...Room filled with TPU’s

Please don't look at this solely from your own perspective.
There are plenty of people with lots of time and there were already plenty algorithms written in the past.
Even in the times there were no ARM/Arduino boards available.

If you want to forget about it that's fine but keep your destructive advice far away from us, please.

There is always the possibility that SM used ferromagnetic toroid cores in some of his devices like the one for example that crashangel pointed to.

I think the following statements of SM are showing that he might used beat frequency.
"...It is an insignificant power supply,
except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with
each other
, .....
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a
much larger kick at the output.''

Regards

He used iron bailing wire in the first type of devices these would put out a consistent 61.5 Volts at 25 Watts.
Also he mentioned that rusty oxidized wire worked better then new shiny wire but he was too busy to look into why that happened.

I have done these experiments long time ago.
You take two separate power supply's, one is supplying a DC Voltage while the other is supplying an AC Voltage.
Then you take one wire that is used as a shared wire in both circuits.
And then you can replace that wire with a coil too.

At first, It looks like two ordinary power supply's that are placed in series, but there is more to it then meets the eye.



Jeg

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2019, 12:46:52 PM »
Is he referring to wave superposition?


Very well said! If i was to set up an experiment in this direction for sure i would start with two primaries in an open flux system. Or else the transformer effect would affect the result.

Turbo
Perhaps oxidation worked as an insulation. Tesla was using varnish for this task. You have less losses this way. And/Or, oxidation worked for him as a source of extra electrons.

In your attached circuit you need very low imbedance i guess in the middle line or else i would add two diodes to prevent the flow from one source toward the other.
 

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2019, 01:17:36 PM »
Let’s see what you can do Turbo, you certainly talk like you know this subject, but eventually you must walk.

Turbo

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2019, 03:36:53 PM »
Very well said! If i was to set up an experiment in this direction for sure i would start with two primaries in an open flux system. Or else the transformer effect would affect the result.

Turbo
Perhaps oxidation worked as an insulation. Tesla was using varnish for this task. You have less losses this way. And/Or, oxidation worked for him as a source of extra electrons.

In your attached circuit you need very low imbedance i guess in the middle line or else i would add two diodes to prevent the flow from one source toward the other.
 

I learned that the oxidation works as a Diode.
So thats only one way.

MOSFET stands for Metal Oxide field effect transistor.
Their operating principle involves oxides.
You can also make solar panels with it.

I read somewhere that they used to build radios with rusty razorblades as a detector in times of war.
In that respect it could have some cathode like action comparable to the electron cloud around the cathode/heater in a thermionic valve.

These images i made are just for illustration purposes.

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2019, 05:34:42 PM »
I learned that the oxidation works as a Diode.
But as you wrote before, SM had used it also before the wire got oxidized and device was working without the need of a diode. Nice catch though! ;)
 
   

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2019, 08:55:27 PM »
Yesss the trollls have arrived.
How wonderful.
Chet where are you.

citfta

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2019, 09:13:08 PM »
Ignoring the trolls works much better than feeding them.  If you ignore them they eventually get hungry and go somewhere else looking for food.

e2matrix

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2019, 11:41:50 PM »
This patent attached has Steven Marks name on it and lists him as being in Moraga, California which I believe is where he was located when all this hit the news.    Patents may not always be the best source for building as something is often hidden but this patent does appear to be the TPU.    The attached file had to be compressed with 7Zip to make it small enough to upload here.   Also needed to change the extension from "7z" to "zip" so if you have trouble unzipping it rename the extension to .7z

ramset

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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2019, 11:49:27 PM »
Sorry had to run down to NYC




“Arm “
I had asked Turbo about speaking with Stefan about him moderating here
He did not feel it would be necessary ?






Please be nice ?


But I will be calling him tomorrow about other things anyway ...too late now (timewise)


Big plans for this topic......


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Re: Creating TPU Steven_Mark
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2019, 12:23:05 AM »
No thanks.