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iacob alex

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Centrifugal guns...
« on: August 16, 2019, 11:15:34 AM »
.....at : https://strangengines.wordpress.com/category/centrifugal-guns/
     Centrifuges,centrifugal pumps,centrifugal guns,centrifugal casting...trebuchet...merry-go-round...so many applications of the curvilinear motion...
     Why not a method of applying the "classic" long-arm short-arm concept of our forum...for a possible gravity ( and centrifugal...) powered device ???
     Al_ex

cipbranea

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 12:37:33 PM »
maybe something like this (see attached) ...? Applied on a gravitational device like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EumMNeAVD-8
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLh_vYBpd4

ARMCORTEX

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 07:14:58 PM »
This looks like the work of some indian/paki trailer trash.

Beware of their scams.

The problem is not fossil fuels, the problem is that they are too many indian/paki trailer trash in this world for solar, wind and nuclear to be viable.

iacob alex

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 09:32:17 PM »
    Hi Cipbranea !
Sorry , but your comment ( YouTube movies...bouncing frames) has no connection with up here subject...you know..."Two wrongs do not make a right".Again,sorry!
    Al_ex

cipbranea

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2019, 02:54:20 AM »
Hi Alex,
I think the animated gif attached is not working, but it shows the long arm-short arm principle (as a mechanical trebuchet) you mention in your post. It may have an mechanical advantage on a bouncing frame setup (more momentum on the right side, less effort to rise it back on the left side). Maybe the sketch attached will clarify my idea. 

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2019, 04:46:53 PM »
 Hi Cipbranea !
Regarding your proposal :  make a search on the front page of this forum ( or Wikipedia...) with "Roberval balance " to meet people thinking alike you regarding this particular four bar linkage.
In my opinion , the only result is the internal mechanical stress...to release this ...it's a different problem...
 Al_ex

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2019, 05:46:06 PM »
Directing me to Robertval balance proves me you didn't get my point, but because my poor drawing skills and language barrier I'll not going any further on this.

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2019, 10:18:41 PM »
  Hi Cipbranea !
Sometimes , the disappointment tracks the step of hope.
My suggestion (...it's a different problem...): try to replace the fixed mass with a sliding mass-spring system...so to release the inner mechanical stress (destresser...) into a possible centrifugal push...but play four synchro-counter-rotating arrangements (four bar/parallelogram linkage )...to "harness" the four centrifugal "horses", as a possible variable one-way tractive vector?!
  Al_ex









 

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2019, 10:21:52 PM »
You finally got it :) . And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxsmCX5zTRw is the device I tried to explain (and the connection with the topic).


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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2019, 03:46:12 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaUmzekdxTQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boLk57cKNao

I don't call them centrifugal devices but they made energy.

ARMCORTEX

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2019, 02:04:43 AM »

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2019, 02:42:07 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7d66JscI8

In the 1.320 kg model the original energy is about .66 joules.

The final energy of the .132 kg moving ten times as fast is 6.6 joules.

That is a production of 5.94 joules.

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2019, 04:49:51 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7d66JscI8

In the 1.320 kg model the original energy is about .66 joules.

The final energy of the .132 kg moving ten times as fast is 6.6 joules.

That is a production of 5.94 joules.
How to redirect the weight upward in order to harvest a potential energy instead of the kinetic?
May be with some kind of the 45 degrees inclined plates?

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Re: Centrifugal guns...
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2019, 01:09:44 PM »
.....as a spiral ( trajectory ) accelerator , at :
     https://youtu.be/LH8G7atCFSQ
     It can develop a suggestion to play the "classical" variable arm(short arm-long arm ) ,  hoping for a continuous gravity unbalance on to the same side of the fulcrum...
     Al_ex
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