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Void

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #165 on: July 24, 2019, 01:25:58 AM »
That's a lot of energy all right! I wonder what would happen if you overvolted that thing and it exploded, like the one that almost killed me. That cap probably was holding about that same 1 kJ energy when it went, but at a much higher voltage.
450 volts won't jump much of an air gap. 60 kV on the other hand....
 :o

Hi TK. Yes, very dangerous stuff!!!



 Hi TK ,
By accident the pack of 8 in parallel was shorted in the output. I have tinnitus caused by the explosion of that short circuit, is indescribable what happen. the light of explosion  blind the 3 persons in the room under 5 minutes. i could die . Yes very danger when we are talk of capacitors .
I have loan to a friend a 30kv 3uf is the bigger hv cap i have  very danger to better be immersed in oil at that levels .
cheers

Yikes!  :o

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #166 on: July 24, 2019, 01:35:00 AM »
Hi Nelson, regarding your video:
Unfortunately I know very little about motors, but I think that motor's power
consumption is rated around 400 Watts under load? Is that right? 
If that is correct, and since the motor is running with no load, then if we take the
motor's power consumption with no load (power consumption due to losses in the motor only) as say
15% of 400Watts = 0.15 x 400W = 60 Watts
If the input power to your radiant device is around 70 Watts, then the setup seems to be performing within
what would be normally expected, but I know little about motors, so I could be wrong with my rough estimation. :)


Hi Void ,
My crude measurements numbers that i made  , was 342V x 0.30A  each phase . You could calculate .   P = 3^(1/2)   x   V   x   I   x   COS(pi)
But  yes is running in  steady mode in the video .

cheers

Void

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #167 on: July 24, 2019, 01:42:55 AM »

Hi Void ,
My crude measurements numbers that i made  , was 342V x 0.30A  each phase . You could calculate .   P = 3^(1/2)   x   V   x   I   x   COS(pi)
But  yes is running in  steady mode in the video .

cheers

Hi Nelson. The power factor should be quite low when the motor is running under no load I would think,
but I don't know what a reasonable number for the power factor would be for that type of motor
under no load. My estimation of the power consumption under no load may be off. :)
I based my no load power estimation on the motor having an efficiency of around 85% (15% losses in the motor).

P.S. Maybe someone out there who knows a lot about three phase induction motors
could tell me if my no load power consumption estimation for the motor seems reasonable or not. :)


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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #168 on: July 24, 2019, 01:49:59 AM »
   I once made one of those capacitors made with water in a glass jar wrapped in aluminum foil. I forget their name now, (leyden jar capacitor?) I think, or something like that.  I was surprised at the jolt that even a small 1.5v battery connected to joule thief, to one of those homemade caps can give. It knocked me off my stool, and I threw my multimeter across the room. So much for that meter...   So, even a small input can be dangerous, when dealing with capacitors like those mentioned.

   Nelson:  I don't really know what to say about what is happening in our video, but, it looks like the input is not being affected by the different outputs drawn, that you've shown. I asked if that was correct, or not. As you seam to have a different set up than anyone else, so it's hard for me to understand all that can be happening, or what exactly is going on. I would have to guess, and I'm not very good at that.   Lets all try to be nice to each other, this time around, and have more "funny with friends". And, try to treat everyone right.
   Thanks,
                Nick

Void

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #169 on: July 24, 2019, 04:33:04 PM »

Hi Void ,
My crude measurements numbers that i made  , was 342V x 0.30A  each phase . You could calculate .   P = 3^(1/2)   x   V   x   I   x   COS(pi)
But  yes is running in  steady mode in the video .
cheers

Hi Nelson for a comparison of my  rough estimate of around 60W (power consumption of the induction motor under no load,
with the motor up to speed, and not including the power consumption of the 3 phase motor controller), here is
a calculation using your rough measured values:

I read that the power factor of an induction motor with no load can be as low as 0.2.
If we take the power factor of your induction motor as say 0.35:
P = sqrt(3)   x   V   x   I   x   power factor
P = 1.732 x 342V x 0.30A x 0.35
P = 62.2 Watts.
That is not including the power consumption of the 3 phase motor controller,
so add some power consumption on top of that for the total power consumption.

Since your input power was around 70 Watts, then these rough estimates seem to be
in the ballpark of what might be expected given the input power consumption, but it is only
a rough estimate. Like I said, I am not very knowledgeable about motors so I could be off on
those estimations. :)


ramset

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #170 on: July 24, 2019, 04:45:51 PM »
sorry to interrupt
Is there a Model and manufacturer for this motor being discussed here?
will get idling power use info !!

We have plenty of members fluent in application management and design of power needs within these motor systems and duty cycle and loading requirements.
idle load is a critical piece of info in "some" applications
although sometimes it takes a call to technical department to get the proper answers.which I will do if need be.

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a.king21

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #172 on: August 09, 2019, 11:16:58 PM »
Demonstration of the DSE by Rick :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhd8Ye4gcVk



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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #173 on: August 10, 2019, 12:30:49 AM »
Hi A so is that circuit running at 1.1mhz ?  I don't suppose you have a build info on the coils or even a video on a similar device actually running ?

Regards Raymondo

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #174 on: August 10, 2019, 01:16:25 AM »

I think this is relevant 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cv4XF4FV6w


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Cap charge voltage amplification 1250 %
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfC5cTHtfYY





r2fpl

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #175 on: January 10, 2021, 12:45:11 PM »
a.king21 - Have you seen any other Kapanadze's films that have not been published on the internet?
 Do you still have contact with Kapanadze?

NdaClouDzzz

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #176 on: May 10, 2021, 03:47:54 AM »
Hi a.king. I understand the concept of electrostatic induction, and I have experimented with it
using an earth ground to one capacitor plate, and only could ever get flea power out of such an arrangement
even when charging the other capacitor plate to at least 8 kV on a 0.1 uF HV cap at around 20 kHz. If there is a
way to make that work with reasonably high output power, I couldn't find it anyway. Maybe I am not quite enough
of a moron to get it. :)
What exactly did you do to measure this "flea power"?
A 0.1 uF cap isn't anywhere close to the capacitance that you need to get "reasonably high output power"! To get something usable from 0.1 uF you need a much higher frequency than 20 kHz and then discharge it to earth-ground through an appropriately sized step-down transformer. Just imagine the shock you get when you touch a doorknob. Now replace the doorknob with a transformer where one end of the primary is earth-grounded and you touch the other end of the primary. The spark jumps from your finger to the primary and moves through the primary going to earth ground and the resulting magnetic field generated in the primary induces current/voltage in the secondary giving you POWER! à la Don Smith's EES!
NOTE: Don Smith's AMBIENT ENERGY GENERATOR is merely the energy HARVESTING/PUMPING phase, NOT the POWER phase; that is, it does the same thing that your body does prior to you touching the doorknob!

The power of those accumulated electrons: https://youtu.be/b89x8CAS6xU   https://youtu.be/T6VKxmUPb3g

Device harnessing the power of the shock: https://youtu.be/H16CvNo5kBY

Charging by Induction: https://openpress.usask.ca/physics155/chapter/1-2-conductors-insulators-and-charging-by-induction/


r2fpl

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #177 on: May 10, 2021, 08:54:08 AM »
Accumulation of electrostatic charge even for 1 Watt is very high.
The Winhmurst or Van der Graaf machines are pure electrostatics and the conversion to electricity is very small.
The accumulation of charges is impressive only for the person affected by the HV impulse, but not for the power of an ordinary lamp.
It all comes down to an impulse, but the impulse doesn't have to have the same meaning as a hammer.

Don Smith never showed a real device. All because these are only his scientific works with no final effects.
He thought others would do it and then he would be happy.

NdaClouDzzz

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #178 on: May 10, 2021, 09:32:24 AM »
Is r2fpl Void's alter ego?
The diversion tactics are lame!
More and more are doing the experiments and learning the truth!  ;)

r2fpl

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2021, 10:37:37 AM »
Is r2fpl Void's alter ego?
The diversion tactics are lame!
More and more are doing the experiments and learning the truth!  ;)

Don't confuse me with others because I'm not like them.

I have some experience with what I write and these are my opinions. Of course, you can disagree. That's what we're here for.