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Author Topic: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation  (Read 28086 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #105 on: July 18, 2019, 09:22:51 PM »
What sort of secrets ? are men in black ET's what about ET women ? wait till the wife finds out 8).
money is just a means to an end.
All the stuff I have posted has been on threads and you tube since March this year.
I'm not l a great one for collecting money and i don't run any kind of business or wish to.


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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #106 on: July 18, 2019, 09:50:14 PM »
   a.king:   I've already spent too much time building things that were just bottle necks to the input source.
   If there is a working OU device that can be looked that, that will show what you are talking about, and shows an accurate schematic, for a replicable device, that would be different. But, a "scheme" is not enough to go on. We've all read patents, and heard the call. But, nothing self running to be seen, so far. Not even Ruslan's 5000 dollar sale, for a device connected to the grid, that did not self run.   The internet is full of free energy devices. Try to buy one that works... good luck.
   That is why we need full specs. Not just someone's schemes.
   Neither Rick nor Nelson will spill the beans, not today anyway. And Dr. Stiffler has died, along with his secret.
Neither Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, nor anyone else will show or explain how anything related to OU, nor just how self running, works, in practice, any more. Nor will any one else. So... were do we go from here?

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #107 on: July 18, 2019, 10:17:32 PM »
   a.king:   I've already spent too much time building things that were just bottle necks to the input source.
   If there is a working OU device that can be looked that, that will show what you are talking about, and shows an accurate schematic, for a replicable device, that would be different. But, a "scheme" is not enough to go on. We've all read patents, and heard the call. But, nothing self running to be seen, so far. Not even Ruslan's 5000 dollar sale, for a device connected to the grid, that did not self run.   The internet is full of free energy devices. Try to buy one that works... good luck.
   That is why we need full specs. Not just someone's schemes.
   Neither Rick nor Nelson https://overunity.com/17186/the-bifilar-pancake-coil-at-its-resonant-frequency/msg534659/#new will spill the beans, not today anyway. And Dr. Stiffler has died, along with his secret.
Neither Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, nor anyone else will show or explain how anything related to OU, nor just how self running, works, in practice, any more. Nor will any one else. So... were do we go from here?

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« Reply #107 on: July 18, 2019, 10:17:32 PM »
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Offline Void

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #108 on: July 18, 2019, 10:18:41 PM »
Hi Nick. At least a couple of those people you mentioned may well not have had any beans to spill. :)

The circuit posted by a.king is quite easy to setup, so I may try setting up something
along that line in the next week or so if I can find the time, just to see how well the general concept
shown in the schematic performs. So many things on the go right now...


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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #109 on: July 18, 2019, 10:47:25 PM »
Aking,

Referring to the Benitez patent 17,811, are you saying you and/or Rick have replicated either the first or second option of this patent and experienced OU?  If so, I'm sure you realize that the mercury-vapor converters or cathodic valves used an internal arc to operate so what did you use for rectifiers in your replications?

Pm

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« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2019, 11:08:30 PM »
Aking,

Referring to the Benitez patent 17,811, are you saying you and/or Rick have replicated either the first or second option of this patent and experienced OU?  If so, I'm sure you realize that the mercury-vapor converters or cathodic valves used an internal arc to operate so what did you use for rectifiers in your replications?

Pm
It was probably 7 years ago.  I used modern fast diodes. My replication was just a token to see if it worked. So I powered a neon bulb for several minutes under it's own power. The neon bulb kept going out and then coming back to life from nowhere.  You could not say the device was ou because the complicated Tesla switch was battery powered separately. However the concept worked ie the switching was getting energy from the ground.  I then moved on to the car battery setup using  2 in series and 2 in parallel and rotating them around. That worked fine till the Tesla switch failed and killed the batteries. I enclose a pic of the original Benitez "armature" if you could call it that.  I replicated the dotted line version. in 17.811. Even with my pretty poor set up the results were enough to convince me that he was genuine. On energetic, they have replicated Benitez but state it cannot compete with solar re price etc.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 01:17:10 AM by a.king21 »

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2019, 11:29:06 PM »
A king
your image made the page huge{ this bothers many readers do to scrolling back and forth to read.you should shrink it please.
and I know it drives certain Bears...well it makes them cranky .[you ever see a "Drop bear"??YEESH...]
Here I take a moment to Comment to AG who asked about Mark E

Mark E [ a member here who passed on...way too early in life


He worked to help persons all over the world advance the  understanding of super high frequency.. super high speed high power EE technologies ...he was noted world wide in his field for this benevolence [helping other EE's work thru problems ]
Member Poynt once described his work to me as a field of EE research  head and shoulders above normal EE.. studied by very few and understood by even fewer..

To say the least.. Tinsel was the type of experimenter Who could definitely appreciate this mans work and contributions here ....and really miss's him and his help.


To my Knowledge Mark E was at the very top in his field  ,and yes he is missed and we were very fortunate to have had him here.
He practiced brutal honesty and this made it hard for some to interact with him.[was hard for me too at times]
However
At the end of the day it should be a standard which can survive any scrutiny that will truly bring change.
 Chet K  PS sorry if I post too much here ,just wanted to explain ,not trying to distract from the work here.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 01:33:11 AM by ramset »

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Offline a.king21

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #112 on: July 19, 2019, 01:12:13 AM »
Just a note on the circuit I posted.  You have to get into the diode arrangement that Don Smith suggested to see the benefits.  The basic system will just circulate some of the energy back into the system.. i'll post a more complicated circuit when I hone my drawing skills on paint in a bit. It's when you get into the diode systems that you will see more  lethal voltages across the cap or caps.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 04:44:42 AM by a.king21 »

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2019, 07:12:12 AM »
forgive me if this is not appropriate.

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2019, 11:50:28 AM »
This will blow your transistors if not secure.
This looks a similar circuit why not try this it looks like the original but does not show earth connection.

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2019, 02:26:16 PM »
Just a note on the circuit I posted.  You have to get into the diode arrangement that Don Smith suggested to see the benefits.  The basic system will just circulate some of the energy back into the system.. i'll post a more complicated circuit when I hone my drawing skills on paint in a bit. It's when you get into the diode systems that you will see more  lethal voltages across the cap or caps.

Hi a.king. Well, I did mention a couple of times already that I don't think it was Don Smith that created that 'DSE'
document. A forum member at energetic forum originally posted that document and mentioned something
about putting that document together based on his understanding of some Don Smith concepts, from what I recall.
I don't recall Don Smith ever specifically talking abut such an approach however, although it is possible.

Having a higher voltage on a capacitor still says nothing about 'OU'. Could you demonstrate what you mean using
the diode arrangement you mention above so people can have something practical to evaluate regarding
the circuit performance?

P.S. See this free online schematic drawing app from Digikey:
https://www.digikey.com/schemeit/project/
Click 'Try it now', if you don't have a Digikey account.

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Re: A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2019, 03:12:43 PM »
Hi a.king. Well, I did mention a couple of times already that I don't think it was Don Smith that created that 'DSE'
document. A forum member at energetic forum originally posted that document and mentioned something
about putting that document together based on his understanding of some Don Smith concepts, from what I recall.
I don't recall Don Smith ever specifically talking abut such an approach however, although it is possible.

Having a higher voltage on a capacitor still says nothing about 'OU'. Could you demonstrate what you mean using
the diode arrangement you mention above so people can have something practical to evaluate regarding
the circuit performance?

P.S. See this free online schematic drawing app from Digikey:
https://www.digikey.com/schemeit/project/
Click 'Try it now', if you don't have a Digikey account.
I hear you.  In one of Don's last videos he shows you an earth grounding through  a cap plate mirroring the violet ray input.
Also this is essentially a modernized Benitez system. So there is prior art - we just missed it because Benitez is so complicated to do. You can use an avramenko on the earth side and experiment with it. Loop back is via an air core or ferrite core trafo.  You can use a bridge or try Benitez's double cathode method of feeding back

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« Reply #117 on: July 19, 2019, 03:15:57 PM »
I hear you.  In one of Don's last videos he shows you an earth grounding through  a cap plate mirroring the violet ray input.
Also this is essentially a modernized Benitez system. So there is prior art - we just missed it because Benitez is so complicated to do.

Hi a.king. Ok, thanks. That's not ringing a bell, but I will see if I can find the video.
It's been some time since I reviewed Don Smith's stuff.

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« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2019, 03:24:49 PM »
Here's a still shot of the video complete with my spelling errors and typos.  Gives it that individual touch :D
So don't think you can only get milliwatts out of an earth ground. I have had a mains shock. Be careful guys this stuff can kill.

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« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2019, 03:52:44 PM »
Here's a still shot of the video complete with my spelling errors and typos.  Gives it that individual touch :D
So don't think you can only get milliwatts out of an earth ground. I have had a mains shock. Be careful guys this stuff can kill.

Hi a.king. Oh, that demonstration. Ok, I know which one you mean now. :)
Yes, capacitors can 'pass' AC current. HV generators isolated from ground
can still create corona discharge to earth ground or surrounding metallic objects.
Those violet corona discharge streamers carry relatively low current.
However, milliJoules over time adds up to Joules when storing in a suitable capacitor,
which can give major shocks. Still not indicative of OU in itself, however, but this whole
discussion has got me thinking about some possible new circuit arrangements to try, so thanks
for that! I will post some photos here or something if I come across anything interesting.


 

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