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Re: CO2 capture and reuse technology
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2019, 12:47:01 AM »
Assumption : 6 Lt. /100 Km and 12500 Km per year drive = 750 Liter petrol

http://ecoscore.be/en/info/ecoscore/co2
6 Lt. /5 Lt. X 120 gr. CO2/Km X 12500 Km = 1800 Kg = 1,8 ton. CO2/12500 Km
1 ton. air CO2 sequestration costs : 100 US$
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11027-019-9847-y
1,8 ton CO2 sequestration costs = 180 US$ /750 Liter petrol = 0,24 US$/Liter
By 1 part hydro-carbon and 7 parts hydrogen mix-fuel
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=CA&NR=2859958A1&KC=A1&FT=D#
we decrease the carbon content 7/8 ergo directly the CO2 bonding and emission :
1,8 ton CO2 /8 = 0,225 ton CO2 X 100 US$/ton air  CO2 sequestration costs =

                                                            22,5 US$ / 750 Liter petrol
                                                           
                                                               = 0,03 US$/ Liter petrol

Paying actually 1,4 Euros/Liter petrol  in Europe for the most car drivers this is acceptable. ! ~ 2%

Because the above fuel process is cheaper than crude oil refining there is in future no great price increase to expect ,beside the needed new orientation and search for peakoil and beyond alternatives !

Internal combustion engine drive car owners can later benefit from modern engine research results like
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13082 ( 500 US$ ea. production costs)

or

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14852 ( 150 US$ ea.  production costs)

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2019, 01:09:16 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fedison.handelsblatt.com%2Ferklaeren%2Fvergleichsrechnung-so-viel-co2-sparen-e-autos-gegenueber-verbrennern%2F22654278.html%3Freadon%3Dy


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11027-019-9847-y
CapEx and OpEx. !
With heat pump C. O. P.  3  !

CapEx and OpEx : ?
With  heat pump C. O. P.  6,9,12,......   ?
Heat pump drive :
About the principle :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=2241785B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=&date=20121226&DB=&locale=#
[0014]  "prototype" related :   

technical number example ( Linevich, Arestov : Permotors GmbH /AT)
https://www.xing.com/communities/posts/die-alternative-stromanlage-bei-einer-leistungsaufnahme-von-nur-25-watt-entwickelt-der-motor-eine-leistung-1001254727
25 Watt in and mechanical 400 Watt out ( EP office granted patent. !)


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130513&CC=DE&NR=202012002207U1&KC=U1#
[0024] Waermepumpe = heat pump



heat storage  costs : http://circuminvent.com/low-cost-thermal-battery/
low cost heat and electricity : https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/

The given maximum = 293 US$/ton air CO2 capture x 0,3 operative "open source" price deflation =
                                       
                                                              87,9 US$/ton ( not far from the given minimum)

                                          over the decades and century( included refurbish and recycling )
               
                                      x 0,3 human free 100% autonom REPRAP industrial production.    =
                                                                                    26,4 US$/ton
                                                 
                                                         by CO2-emission trading system compensation :

https://www.google.com/search?q=co2+emission+certificate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

           Beside CO2, now in CO2-aequivalent : Methan/Ethan/water vapor



Less air humidity more dry and hot air more florest and arctic sump fire : more CO2 release "chain reaction"and less 02 reproduction


100 US$/ton CO2 capture : possible, difficult or easy. ?
https://bravenewclimate.com/2013/01/16/zero-emission-synfuel-from-seawater/
114 US$/ton CO2 capture costs by assumed 7 cts/KWh nuclear electricity costs
?     US$/ton CO2                                                6,5,4,3,2 cts/KWh non nuclear electricity costs. ?
International the renewable electricity solar and wind parcs deliver now  in the 2 cts/KWh price range

https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/156375.html
Lowest cost producing citizens greets O. P. E. C. and Petro-Dollar dependant estates , included strategical and military issues  ;)
« Last Edit: September 07, 2019, 12:23:59 AM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2019, 01:09:16 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2019, 01:17:26 PM »
CO2- costs per car owner :
Air/soil CO2 capture/sequestration costs :
CO2- farming : 5 US$/car
Air CO2 off-shore : 50 US$/tonAir CO2-capture on-shore : 100 US$/ton
Mix-price : 50 US$/ton CO2
1,8 ton CO2 release for compact car class 6 Lt. Petrol /100 Km and 12500 Km drive per year :
                                                                     90 US$/year  CO2- certification costs
Instead crude oil based fuels synfuels with up to 85% less CO2 release :
                                                         only more in average 18 US$/ year CO2 certification costs

                                                Attention : great industrial margin gain speculation

Sunfuel and other "renewable fuel/gas" producer write about 1 Euro per Liter costs ~ 159 Euros per barrel

               Syntroleum ( Fischer-Tropsch process) calculated with 17 US$/barrel synfuel production costs :
                                                                                   ~ 0,1 Euro per Liter

     Synfuels + CO2-capture costs can be per Liter produced : 0,1 Euro/Liter fuel + 0,06 Euro/Liter CO2 capture

                                      The rest is estate system tax margin : up to 900%
how long the voters will accept 900% margin tax versus 0% capital tax by the central banks is another question !



                           The average salary tax : 42,857% brut(+- 30% "liquid"  after social system tribut)             

                                         VWL- formula: Bruttoeinkommen/Nettoproduktivitaet

 900% price margin means  over 20 times the average (OECD) capita brut salary tax/margin, 30 times to net ratio

       Arbeits-Schweine gilt es richtig auszunehmen und auf derem Leder als Sohle laeuft man




What is the actual price from "shale gas" ? How far from Judbarovski "0,1 US$/37,58 KWh= 1 Kg hydrogen"  ?
Can the Granstroy Arakelian multi-stage fuel-cracker raffinery produce locally same  the Syntroleum price ?
                   Moveable raffinery on a Truck  ?

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2019, 06:13:21 PM »
https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/18218/Carbon-Capture-Cost-Savings-on-the-Horizon.aspx

USD 50/ton carbon-dioxid capture cost is nice. !
Old calculation base

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New global reengineering price level :

https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/132407.html
CO2 cycled chemical capture : from natural atmosphere USD 5,3/ton  is nicer. !
With capture price decrease " killing this speculative problem" !
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International Fixprice :
CO2-certification maximal taxation : USD 5,3/ ton ~ < 5 Euros/ton  !
With 100% CO2-capture reinvestment. !




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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2019, 01:44:40 AM »
https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/18218/Carbon-Capture-Cost-Savings-on-the-Horizon.aspx

USD 50/ton carbon-dioxid capture cost is nice. !
Old calculation base

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New global reengineering price level :

https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/132407.html
CO2 cycled chemical capture : from natural atmosphere USD 5,3/ton  is nicer. !
With capture price decrease " killing this speculative problem" !
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International Fixprice :
CO2-certification maximal taxation : USD 5,3/ ton ~ < 5 Euros/ton  !
With 100% CO2-capture reinvestment. !
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Wir-brauchen-jetzt-Alle-for-Future-article21288011.html
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FWir-brauchen-jetzt-Alle-for-Future-article21288011.html
Shall the international kids  begin to observe what and how " the experts" define economical values. ?
Are their salaries to high. ?

Why shall 10 Euros/ ton CO2 tax/ certification not be enough. ?
"ridicoulos low " : yes, such ridicoulos low that it is wondering that now one makes the economical calculation how cheap CO2 capture and temporal or permanent storage can be. !
Seconds Methane capture and permanent or temporal storage. !

If I would be stupid and not sceptical I would think and recommend :
CO2 air capture

But when we think about CO2 there are a. natural sources( earth,plants,vulcanoes,....)  and b. anthropogen= by human work CO2 generation and emission  !
One of the greatest sources of temporal CO2 storage : the world oceans. !
Per liter volume several times higher CO2 content than in air  !

This means for a long time CO2 source for synfuel production  = sea fuel
 and by oxylisis : solid Carbon source ( Graphit,Graphene)
If synfuels have less 50-80% CO2 emission in relation to crude oil the use of synfuels means : less new CO2 emission

At the beginning I would recommend low cost car exhaust emission filter.
Later option : for city drive an hybrid kit ( zero city emission) or 100% electric car conversion

The car making industry unisono with the parliaments abused in the last 2 decades their citizens:it is now their active part for reparation or extinction

And national workplace politics shall not anymore be "political priority", the best economical solution mandates the decision by worldwide comparison. !
We know that internal combustion engines are bad energy converter, from theoretical maximal 35/40% conventional gasoline/gasoil engines performance the real average power-to-wheel result : 8-15% efficiency. !
1978 solution and work  before/after explanation :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820309&CC=US&NR=4318449A&KC=A#

https://peswiki.com/directory:gun-engine.   Up to 90% for synfuel or hydrogen as fuel
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=10760 up to 90% efficiency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_disk_engine up to 60% efficiency

https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13001 15% x 6 times improvement  ? No miracle but perfection
http://www.proepowersystems.com/PROEHOME.HTM
Permanent 50% average conversion efficiency ( evtl.  with waste heat recuperator) has to be commercial minimum  !
For 10000 ( ten thousand)  Euros and more new cars  !

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2019, 01:33:00 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fwissenschaft%2Fnatur%2Flandwirtschaft-deutschlands-weizen-wurde-besonders-stark-getroffen-a-1286622.html
" Only a national problem  !"  ?
German/European/Global Agriculture Desertec solution :

http://www.canlaser.com/en/Deserts.html

Agriculture/Greenhouse Bio-Chemistry :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2Fprint%2Fd-13508487.html

Publicated by Alexander Kueckens  invented solutions :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+kueckens&CPC=&IC=

+      ?        too less /too much effect/result :learning by doing

How many biochemical/biogenic different cycles lives a plant?

 Beside the daily/nightly Oxygen/Carbondioxid process interchange ?
https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetizer+plant+growth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=plant+growth+booster&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

"appropriate dose/dosis science"
 for "appropriate world gardening":

for many plants important : peak versus average night temperature/ humidity
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJustus_von_Liebig

Biosoil treatment :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=biosoilbooster&oq=biosoilbooster&aqs=heirloom-srp..

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bioaktuell.ch%2Fpflanzenbau%2Fboden%2Fregenwurm.html

Between 1983 and 2007 : some ecology related award winning solutions. ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPhilip_Morris_Forschungspreis

Did the award winner optimized their award object  ? How do their "patented object claims" become treated by Universities, estatal institutions and private companies - - reusing this knowledge  ?
Filling the "winner name" in, finding the right "patent"=100% identity, read and later to " citing documents". !https://worldwide.espacenet.com/help?locale=en_EP&method=handleSearch&helpSearchQuery=advanced+search&Submit=Search

https://www.google.com/search?q=fao+agriculture+co2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION FOR AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND OTHER LAND USE
"from" to " for" : global GHG re-cycling : especially GHG to GREENHOUSECARBON/GREENHOUSEOXYGEN

https://www.google.com/search?q=aussterben+der+palmen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
Palmen,Olivenbaeume, Bananenstauden,........

https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article108981849/Aussterben-der-Bienen-waere-fatal-fuer-die-Menschheit.html 

Insects
https://m.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/tiere/vogelsterben-in-nordamerika-fast-drei-milliarden-voegel-weniger-16394962.html 

Birds

Artensterben weltweit, auch von Beruf( ung) sarten : der Letzte seiner Zunft/Gilde schliesse die Tuere zu

p.s. : probably also other "non ecology related" PM award winner their oeuvre could be interestant for R&D and for personal science   "status quo" -upgrade

PM award prize / AN  award.prize ? In money equal  value !
1990 Klaus von Klitzing PM award  money prize background : cigarettes/ tobacco
1985 Klaus von Klitzing AN award  money prize background :  Nobel Dynamite

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2019, 04:14:12 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww1.wdr.de%2Fwissen%2Ftechnik%2Fkohlenstoffdioxid-sprit-100.html
rule of thumb ( pi mal Daumen: Verhaeltniskunde/ Groessen-/Entfernungs-Massstab) = FAUSTFORMEL
We read the above informative article :
Question  : how many liter ambiental oxygen from air ( Nitrogen,.....) consumes a car during 100 Km drive  ?
A. Gasoline/gasoil liquid to gas in liter + ? liter ambiental air as gas intake. ?
How efficient in energy conversion is a combustion engine by total( transported - in liquid kind - to gas- and by air gas extracting?) gas energy content/drive  ratio. ?
CO2 and  consume calculation with/-out FAUSTFORMEL/RULE OF THUMB CAUSE THE IMMENSE SPREAD

1 HYDRO-CARBON MOLECULE : 
FOUR TO ELEVEN CARBON ATOMS WITH EACH 2 OR 3 HYDROGEN ATOMS BONDED
SPECIFIC MOLECULAR MASS WEIGHT BY CALCULATING SPECIFIC ATOMAR MASS WEIGHT SPREAD  ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunearthtools.com%2Fde%2Ftools%2FCO2-emissions-calculator.php
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=+O2+g%2Fmol&oq=+O2+g%2Fmol&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
How many molecules water are bonded during combustion a.  in number b. in molecular mass weight


      CITIES AS "HOT CAR TEMPERATURE ISLANDS" ( CITIES AS HOT BUILDINGS TEMPERATURE ISLANDS)

How hot is this exhausted water/ H20 :  PARIS climate conference 1,5° Celsius temperature increase limitation.

How hot are the exhaust greenhouse gases  ?
How hot is the  car in summer, the car body metall like a solarcollector, the wheels as hot runner : friction. ?


And GHG ( CO2,Methan/Ethan/Water vapor/...)emission  reduction will not have a greet temperature impact effect  !
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2019, 10:46:02 PM »
Why do we need to reuse CO2 in any other way than with plants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEWoPzaDmOA

there is zero chance of stopping climate change, that has happened for 4,5 billion years.

The whole CO2 hysteria is just another scam to limit energy usage of certain countries, so US would stay on top. CO2 cannot be the force driving the temperature, because that is what the ice core drilling data shows. Temperature rises first and 800-1400 years after the CO2.

We need to stop pollution and raping this planet for resources. Those are going to be needed, when the next ice age hits us. UK is now chopping down the amazon rain forest, because UK changed its biggest coal energy plants to "biomass" and "carbon neutral" fuels. That means firewood. Well that is not coming from the UK I can tell you. So this whole CO2 hysteria has gone so far, that we are chopping down the stuff that eats CO2, so we would not create CO2, but by burning the wood we are.



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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2019, 07:30:36 PM »
https://m.spiegel.de/video/donald-trump-und-greta-thunberg-treffen-in-new-york-aufeinander-video-99029887.html#ref=hpvideoleiste3ermobilbottom
"Wenn Blicke toeten koenn(t) en : R. I. P.  Donald Trump "
A little more Fairness for both sides : Pro-/Anti-climate-preserver
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

Now only C and CO2 cycle : this are " statistical moment" numbers
https://static.skepticalscience.com/images/Carbon_Cycle.gif                                   
                                                    in billion tons per annum

anthropogenic 29 + natural vegetation & land 439 + natural ocean 382 = 850 emission



29/850 = 3,41 % anthropogenic part from total emission
 29 billions tons : 7,5 billion human habitants ~  3,87 tons prer capita/year private/commercial/ industrial/estatal

850 - land restorage 450 - ocean restorage 382 = 18 surplus C and CO2 as new ambiental ppm


18/850 =                     2,12 % less "extra"  CO2 emission from total annual as first target. !

18/29  =                      62,1% less anthropogenic CO2 production and emission !


29 anthropogenic CO2 emission, sources?  :

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Agriculture : anthropogenic or vegetation&land :  intensive/extensive nature. !?

Fire ,burning land and burning forests ( monoculture ?): anthropogenic or vegetation&land  ?!


."New India"= U. S. A.  : prairy : millions of bisons ,now millions of cows : anthropogenic or vegetation&land


Savanna,Tundra,Taiga,...: anthropogenic or vegetation & land. ?!

Why important, the answer (- background) :
  7,5-8-9-10,.... billions ? earth human habitans numeric futural preview  !



And how do they treat this : anthropogenic or vegetation&land budget  question/answer :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Fausland%2Fkanada-209.html




62,1% from 3,87 CO2 ton per capita x 5 Euros CO2-farming and 5 Euros CO2- capture per ton CO2

~ 12 Euros per capita/annum global  CO2 neutral economy :

                                                     1 Euro per month,horrible much.  !

                     "New India":         Hopi and many other tribes wisdom and poems :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zitate-und-weisheiten.de%2Findianische-weisheiten%2F

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2019, 08:05:57 PM »
Wissenschaftlich = scientifical : a.  !  b. ?
this E.U.- project fundamentals. :https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fsoziales%2Fgruene-investments-eu-staaten-einigen-sich-auf-gemeinsame-linie-a-1288660.html

Who fixed these 180 billions Euros costs per annum. ? There are some no-Euro E. U. - members  !

Job creation/ preserving scheme. ?  GENERAL EFFICIENCY RULE !
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Ausschreibung
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Kostenvoranschlag
Fix-price  ! Fix delivery date  !

Inner/Outer parliamentary controle  ;
When "work" as consumptive part financed :  work average brut cost tax 42% + " value added tax"





40% less GHG emissions : CO2,Methan, Water vapor,.......  up to 2030 : quantity and quality. ?

HOW MUCH IS THE FIXED INDUSTRIAL/AGRICULTURE/COMMERCIAL/PRIVATE HOUSEHOLD GHG-TON PRICE CALCULATED. ?

PRIMARY SECTOR - SECONDARY SECTOR - TERTIARY SECTOR - QUARTIARY SECTOR

SECTORIAL Emission per net produced Euro. ?  net = excluded credit part. ! 

Cash economy = gross national product

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OECD - Bilanzregelwerk in dreifacher Ausfuehrung : intern + extern + Finanzbehoerden
mit/ohne Off-shore steuervermeidender Gewinnabfuehrung ueber Stiftungen/AGs in Steuer-Oasen

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Re: CO2 capture and reuse technology
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2019, 11:31:57 PM »
https://www.ideaconnection.com/new-inventions/eos-bioreactor-harvests-co2-from-the-air-14626.html
400 trees their CO2 absorption potential in one bioreactor
3. Biomass Accretion by algae
for creating fuel, oils, nutrient-rich high protein food sources, fertilizers, plastics, cosmetics and more.

And oxygen .

https://www.hypergiant.com/green/


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Re: CO2 capture and reuse technology
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2019, 12:24:52 AM »

 

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