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Re: e-drive platform
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2020, 05:10:59 PM »
Lanca
http://www.evalbum.com/


Very nice indeed


This type of retrofit will be the future when
One of these members here who writes “FE is
Everywhere in plain site”


Actually gives us one “Real” open source example !!


Very nice website
Thank you


With gratitude
Chet K




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Re: e-drive platform
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2020, 05:10:59 PM »

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Re: e-drive platform
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2020, 10:50:37 AM »
Hmm," retrofit" or "hybrid"-conversion !?
New cars ,small but so called " compact car class" we can calculate with 15.-20.000 Euros market prices !





DE4332378 Kurt Fritzsche or DE10103108 Peter Rust hybrid conversion concept

When an ic-engine car is availed with 30 GHG units per 100 Km and an electric motor ,battery sourced,car with 1,25 GHG units per 100 Km :
pure ic engine car to
hybrid conversion : 50% less consume

Arakelian fuel ( hydrogenized hydro-carbon fuel 8 :1 ratio )
we get

30 /2 /8 = 1,875 GHG units per 100 Km

Now,to decrease the GHG units we have as options :

CO2-car exhaust filter system

Optimized electric generator : less 40% kinetic input in comparison conventonial electric generator by same output

engine with 80% (Uni Michigan,Multi Disc) up to 90% (CDA :gun engine) conversion efficiency



Internal combustion hybrid cars can be as clean or cleaner than electric battery cars !



30 /2 hybrid conversion /8 hydro fuel  x 0,6 generator

 ~ 1,125 GHG ( without CO2 filter) converted hybrid car /1,25 GHG new electric battery car



Kurt Fritzsche 3 liter gasoline /100 Km x 0,5 ( instead 40% efficiency 80% efficiency engine ) x 0,6 generator =

           0,25 Kg hydrogen per 100 Km ( 1 Kg ~ 37,58 KWh )

with in comparison 100% output  conventional electric drive optimized comparing 200% output electric drive

          0,125 Kg hydrogen per 100 Km


judbarovski.livejournal.com    1 Kg H2 for 0,1 US$ production costs

                                                       factor 100 or 10 000 %

www.edmunds.com                  1 Kg H2 for 10 US$ at fueling station

Assumimg the gas station selling price related 1 US$/Kg hydrogen production costs actually,the selling price can decrease up to 90% to the 1 US$/Kg gas station end price level !


The 2015 R&D 'Automotive Onboard Hydrogen Storage'- targets :

5 Kg hydrogen in 55,6 Kg storage weight and 62 lt. volume by 333 US$ production costs and 2,5 min refueling time

5 Kg storage / 0,125 Kg per 100 Km consume ~ 4000 Kilometers drive range

5 Kg storage /  0,25 Kg   per 100 Km consume ~ 2000 Kilometers drive range

5 Kg storage /   0,5  Kg   per 100 Km consume ~ 1000 Kilometers drive range

Attention : liter and/or Kg consume and the specific energy per liter and/or Kg

      1 gallone gasoline/Benzin ~  3,758 liter gasoline ~ 1 Kg (compressed) hydrogen ~ 37,58 KWh

This means : the Kurt Fritzsche ic-engine ( conventional 40% efficiency )  now instead  gasoline hydrogen combusting and a Akiro Hara generator couple gives by 5 Kg Hydrogen storage up to 1000 Kilometers drive range


We have in option : David Yurth generator coil coating                         

                                   Ferreira electric drive

                                   Porquer differential

We have the clean environment technology ! 3rd world production price : new hybrid cars ≤ 4000 Euros



4000 Euros is much ! TATA NANO ,for the India MIDDLE class concipated : +- 1900 Euros !
In the 3rd world 4000 €  ' upper middle class '  investment level !
~ european private household 30.-40.000 Euros equivalent !
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 02:37:35 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: e-drive platform
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2021, 02:12:49 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano
Announced as the most affordable production car in the world, Tata aimed for a price of one lakh rupees, or ₹100,000, which was approximately $2,000 US at the time.
Curb weight600–635 kg (1,323–1,400 lb)
$2000/625 Kg =                 circa $3,2/Kg  industrial controlled mass production selling price , not production costs !
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68 Kg x $3,2/Kg =          $217,6        linear mass production calculation ::) x factor 10 :         

                                                  $2500 selling price for electrocopter possible !
68 Kg = 150 lbs
https://contest.techbriefs.com/2012/entries/transportation/2689
The ElectraCopter is a single-seat ultralight electric helicopter. At 150 lbs empty with batteries, it will fit into the 254 lb limit USA ultralight category for unlicensed aircraft. It can be potentially used in other categories and in other countries, depending on regulations and design criteria.
The helicopter works by means of a solid state battery, powering a 20 kW electric motor acting as motive power (and generator) with fly by wire electronic controls and servo flap blade actuation. Yaw is governed by piezo gyro and rotor speed control by microprocessor. Triple redundant military spec computer control chips for safety. Tail rotor is a separate, directly coupled motor to a fenestron protected tail blade assembly. A ballistic chute is an option. Instrumentation is a HUD in the helmet – no console.

A. which RPMs ?

Siemens 5 KW/Kg edrive for flying objects ,similar Helmut Schiller motors/generators

https://press.siemens.com/global/de/pressemitteilung/siemens-entwickelt-weltrekord-elektromotor-fuer-luftfahrzeuge

http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf

or :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#

or: https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20091130&CC=PT&NR=104078A&KC=A#

by 18 000 RPMs for long life coated by

https://www.internano.org/node/782https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/quantumcoat-more-hp-mpg-stops-engine-wear--2#/
https://www.energy.gov/science/bes/articles/nanodiamonds-slip-n-slidehttps://www.materialstoday.com/carbon/news/diamond-puts-a-new-shine-on-frictionfree-graphene/

https://www.materialstoday.com/nanomaterials/news/nanodiamonds-2d-materials-dry-lubricant/https://www.anl.gov/article/nanodiamonds-are-forever
The potential applications include bearings and mechanical pump seals in dry applications as well as in wind turbines. The technology could also be used in the computer industry; specifically, in magnetic disc drives.


https://www.piprocessinstrumentation.com/bearings-seals/article/21149510/exploring-the-possibility-of-limitless-bearing-wear
Further studies build on this research. In addition to being low shear and highly protective, the application of graphene in bearings prevents oxidation of the steel surfaces due to its relative lack of permeability to liquids and gases. Research conducted by the U.S. Department of Energy’s Argonne National Laboratory4 shows that the small number of layers in graphene reduces not only friction in steel seven times more, but also wear-and-tear 10,000 times more, reducing tribo-corrosion.


https://www.nanodiamond.co.il/image.ashx?i=29404.pdf&fn=Horizon_2020_Wind_Power.pdfIncrease in service [/font]life [/font]by [/font]the factor of [/font]3[/font](high [/font]wear resistance  of [/font]tools) [/font]

alternatively : bufo.ru surface treatment
https://web.archive.org/web/20040803031518/http://bufo.ru/indexeng.htm

But :  https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/315239/reporting
Improve the lifetime of the engine parts:
There is no indication of significantly improved lifetime of the different engine parts tested. 



Beside engines improvement : https://www.coolingpost.com/features/nanotechnology-to-boost-hvac-efficiency/

Faster production :   https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/aeat.2002.12774cab.008/full/html
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the electrocopter also to see as unmanned transporter alternative to transporter-drones
Actually alibaba DC permanent magnet motor Kg average price : 15 US$

Siemens or Schiller or Ferreira 4 Kg the 20 KW electric motor a $50/Kg = 200 US$ , 7 Kg a 50 US$ = 350 US$

When Schiller 1 KW nominal 3000 RPM weights 2 Kg = 40 Kg 20 KW ,6000 RPM = 20 Kg ,12000 RPM = 10 Kg ,18 000 RPM = 7 Kg


                                               alibaba  market price comparison

Net weight:  25.2 kg    price  1 - 49 Sets $425.00           = less than 20 US$/Kg
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2kw-3kw-5kw-6kw-20kw-25_60760879706.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.cca042346yKxSS

   
 Weight: 820g               price  $439.90 - $689.90  / Set |                                1 Set/Sets (Min. Order) = more than 500 US$/Kg
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/T-motor-New-high-torque-1kw_1600105014442.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.1cbc4234j3ABOi

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« Last Edit: February 02, 2021, 06:58:14 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: e-drive platform
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2021, 11:40:10 AM »
 :o  ,real(-ly?)!


https://portuguese.alibaba.com/product-detail/china-factory-direct-supply-new-cheapest-4-wheel-electric-car-ev-vehicle-1600191928203.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.552f2c30VJT71H

                 

2-29     units  3 300,00 US$     near   3 US$/Kg car

30-499 units  2 400,00 US$      near   2 US$/Kg car

>500   units   1200,00 US$      near   1 US$/Kg car

Curb Weight : 1176 Kg       


                                                                 compared


TATA NANO  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano               


   curb weight 600-635 Kg and with a launch price of one lakh rupees or US$2500 in 10 January 2008 


                                                     =    4 US$/Kg (2008)






                                                                car-share/-rent



1000 units "chinese car" group-buying : 1822 US$ per unit                   all + transport costs/national safety standarts attention


2000 units                                         : 1511 US$ per unit


3000 units                                         : 1407 US$ per unit


                                                      for example CN to Portugal

a given offer about 2 units minimum buy : (2x 3300 US$ =) 6600 US$ +  :-X  9000 US$ transport costs = 15600 US$ for 2
                                                                                                                                                          7800 US$ each




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_3           Curb weight   1,611 kg - 1,847 kg

without "Title-Rank-Name Marketing" ,only material transforming, as new units near 2000 Euros value vehicles


as same Toyoda,VW,BMW,Mercedes-Benz,Porsche,Ferrari   and all other "transformed material on 3/4-wheels" companies.
2000  Euros per unit worth

x Factor 6 ( commercial marketing margin,patent,concession) price 12 000 Euros
       
x Factor 2,5-3 ( Max. based local employies earnings/Max. local product price credit- user ) price               
                                                                                  30.000 - 36.000 Euros per unit

Car finance : up to 36.000 Euros price by 2000 Euros industrial capital= substance,material in Kg  worth
     
                       Over 90% capital- uncovered,Rating: Triple E ,junk bonds level

                       New car trend : short user-ship ,only daies,weeks,months contract

Citroen Ami lease-Abonnement : 20 Euros per month ( 6000 Euros buy )

                                                  City-Micro-/Kei-(JP) cars
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