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Title: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
Steve's Mark's TPU, SmartPAK KPOD, Theodore Annis & Patrick Eberly's device and others...

All use the similar principle as Kunel, break the flux and collect the excess energy.

Some believe Kunel did not say full truth in his patent, but they say the same for Don Smith and others, maybe these are just excuses for failed replications.

So, has anyone successfully replicated Kunel?
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
One thing that does not make sense in Kunel's patent is that output is pulsed DC.

It is basically a transformer, i see no way how output could be pulsed DC unless rectified.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
Some believe Kunel did not say full truth in his patent.

Most of the inventors does not reveal truth in theirs patents. If there is no other source of information like videos or successful replication it is very hard or impossible to grasp the real concept. And without understanding of real concept any replication will probably fail. 
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 11:10:22 AM
It is a transformer with 10 Ampere-coils as secondaries = factor input/output 10                       

                                          20.                                                                                            20
Wattpeak-amplifier does not mean Wattaverage amplifier  !
I wished 2004 to replicate it but let it. !

Probably for your interest : B1= 1977  french patent office granted = technical details and process accepted

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=8&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=8&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1#)

Sincerely
OCWL
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 11:12:16 AM
Most of the inventors does not reveal truth in theirs patents. If there is no other source of information like videos or successful replication it is very hard or impossible to grasp the real concept. And without understanding of real concept any replication will probably fail.

"Most of the inventors does not reveal truth in theirs patents." that's your ASSUMPTION.

Even if some patents like this do hide some detail, they tell enough for someone who understands that magnetic field is a source of energy, to make it work.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:21:36 AM
OK, fair enough. By looking at Kunel patent, what you propose to do?
Do you see anything out of ordinary?

You started this thread, probably having some idea.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 11:29:05 AM
To understand the internal process from the Kunel static transformer study his rotative analog device :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820819&CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1#
look in " mosaics" for the energy flow diagramm and the description to this
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:32:32 AM
From my experience, using magnet is like using spring.
How much power you push in it , it will return same or less.
So , magnet only will not hold the water.
Something is missing.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
OK, fair enough. By looking at Kunel patent, what you propose to do?
Do you see anything out of ordinary?

You started this thread, probably having some idea.

You might wanna read this  for some inspiration. https://www.tedmagnetics.com/

It is impossible to stress enough PMs are source of energy which many here still doubt.

How we extract the energy? Clearly, there are many ways, but we see a common details.

Like we always find the use of square waves to interupt the PM, often pulsed DC but not necessarily, sharp rising edges.

Interupters field must be strong enough to completely neutralize the PM flux into the core.

This is were replicators often fail, maybe they don't have a gaussmeter, maybe they did not learn how to produce the max B in the center of the coil.

Whether you go with airgap or not, whether you place interupter on the PM itself, over airgap, or on soft iron.

Many parameters that need testing, not theorizing.

Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
To understand the internal process from the Kunel static transformer study his rotative analog device :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820819&CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1#
look in " mosaics" for the energy flow diagramm and the description to this

Are you kidding. I have that patent for long time and read it number of times.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
From my experience, using magnet is like using spring.
How much power you push in it , it will return same or less.
So , magnet only will not hold the water.
Something is missing.
A Mister WilliamThompson,  also known  as Lord Kelvin, would partially agree to your mind .
But he defined capacitor/spring analogon estate.
What differs a permanent magnet from a capacitor( wider from electret,magnetret)
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
To understand the internal process from the Kunel static transformer study his rotative analog device :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820819&CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1#
look in " mosaics" for the energy flow diagramm and the description to this

Thanks lancaIV,

At first I was thinking that you and your mind are separate entities.
But now, I realized that you are pointing to right things.
Like our small Wikipedia.
I started to read your links and most of the time you are pointing to right direction.
So, it is useful to have you around.

Thanks!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:43:20 AM
LancaIV,

you are good at finding facts!
Can you find if someone get even close to solution of Kundel patent.
Can you do this for me? And for Nix85?

Please. No joke!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 11:45:00 AM
Don't forget about Silverhealtheu.

From Patrick J. Kelly's PDF


"Silverhealtheu. One of the EVGRAY yahoo forum members whose ID is
‘silverhealtheu’ has described a simple device which appears to be not unlike
the Richard Willis generator above.
The device consists of an iron bar one inch (25 mm) in diameter and one foot
(300 mm) long. At one end, there is a stack of five neodymium magnets and at
the opposite end, a single neodymium magnet. At the end with the five
magnets, there is a coil of wire which is strongly pulsed by a drive circuit. Down
the length of the bar, a series of pick-up coils are positioned. Each of these coils
picks up the same level of power that is fed to the pulsing coil and the
combined output is said to exceed the input power."

Interesting that pick-up coils are the same size as interupter.
It probably does not have to be that way.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: gyulasun on July 06, 2019, 11:51:53 AM
From my experience, using magnet is like using spring.
How much power you push in it , it will return same or less.
So , magnet only will not hold the water.
Something is missing.
Hi,
I agree with you, that is a general conclusion for many magnetic setups, I have also found less output than input.   
However, there can be some other setups where that is not the case. 

Member Floor has been showing setups you may find interesting :
https://overunity.com/18137/newtons-magnets/msg530970/#msg530970 

Gyula 
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 11:54:23 AM
What differs a permanent magnet from a capacitor( wider from electret,magnetret)

LancaIV,

What is on your mind? Using capacitor discharge for electromagnet or something else?
Looking at Kunel drawing, what is your vision to replace magnet with cap or something what cap can do?
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 11:57:02 AM
I see skeptics proliferate here. Thankfully reality does not believe in your skepticism.

Muammer Yildiz is about to give 72h Live Stream Demonstration in Italy as we speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yf6GyamSKw
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:03:53 PM
Each of these coils picks up the same level of power that is fed to the pulsing coil and the
combined output is said to exceed the input power."

Are you sure that all the picking coils are receiving same amount of power?

I am pretty sure that power will split to number of picking coils!
In that patent there is something missing, which inventor hides.
It is on you to point where it will be and how?

That is the hardest part, to find what inventor hides.

And LancaIV, if you find anything, please post!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:07:51 PM
Are you sure that all the picking coils are receiving same amount of power?

I am pretty sure that power will split to number of picking coils!
In that patent there is something missing, which inventor hides.
It is on you to point where it will be and how?

That is the hardest part, to find what inventor hides.

And LancaIV, if you find anything, please post!

This comes down to simple question, is Kunel right that flux at the opposite end of iron rod is more less the same as at the end near the PM.

If so, all pick up coils see same flux and same change of flux, and thus energy is multiplied.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:10:26 PM
Muammer Yildiz

I am not sceptic, on the contrary, I believe in FE, but Muammer Yildiz has nothing to do with Kunel.
Muammer Yildiz is all magnets.
Kunel is combination of magnet and electromagnet (inductance).

You started this thread, you lead, you must have some idea?
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:12:41 PM
I am not sceptic, on the contrary, I believe in FE, but Muammer Yildiz has nothing to do with Kunel.
Muammer Yildiz is all magnets.
Kunel is combination of magnet and electromagnet (inductance).

You started this thread, you lead, you must have some idea?

Not so, i bring Muammer Yildiz up only to make a point that magnets are not source of force but source of power.

How you extract it, mechanicaly or solid state is up to you.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 12:15:29 PM
Are you kidding. I have that patent for long time and read it number of times.

Beginning small :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

"Mosaics" : figure 6 and 7 and the description

A researcher does not only read he/she/( it ,3rd sexus) is pointing out details. !

                       Texte analysis ( with paper/note-book and different colors pencils beside !)

And comparing especially eventual given formulas of force conversion  !

Have you also analyzed the bolivian inventor Subietta-Garron device, the Flynn brothers actuators, the Keiichiro Asaoka static amplifier  ?
Their cited and citing documents.  in their granted patents or " only" patent applications ?
Kunel figure 6,7

and https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1#

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: gyulasun on July 06, 2019, 12:16:58 PM
Hi nix85,

I do not know whether Silverhealtheu actually built the device and what output he got. And whatever working principle is involved, one thing is sure: the output should be created by changing magnetic flux in the iron bar.

I see problem in using solid iron whenever magnetic induction is involved: eddy current losses can totally ruin any expected gain if there is any.  For anyone attempting a replication for this device, the good choice would be ferrite rod or metglas rod. Laminated I core of a normal mains transformer may also be good but the direction of  magnetization for the laminations should be considered.

Gyula
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:19:01 PM
Many have tried to extract from magnet, but in return they all end up with close to same or less.

If you have something new on mind, please elaborate.
Something important is missing in that and many others patents.

I am not here to oppose you! I am trying to understand just as you do!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 12:20:04 PM
Hi nix85,

I do not know whether Silverhealtheu actually built the device and what output he got. And whatever working principle is involved, one thing is sure: the output should be created by changing magnetic flux in the iron bar.

I see problem in using solid iron whenever magnetic induction is involved: eddy current losses can totally ruinany expected gain if there is any.  For anyone attempting a replication for this device, the good choice would be ferrite rod or metglas rod. Laminated I core of a normal mains transformer may also be good but the direction of  magnetization for the laminations should be considered.

Gyula
How are " Eddy currents" calculated. ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1#
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:20:31 PM
Beginning small :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
"Mosaics" : figure 6 and 7 and the description
A researcher does not only read he/she/( it ,3rd sexus) is pointing out details. !

                       Texte analysis ( with paper/note-book and different colors pencils beside !)

And comparing especially eventual given formulas of force conversion  !

Have you also analyzed the bolivian inventor Subietta-Garron device, the Flynn brothers actuators, the Keiichiro Asaoka static amplifier  ?
Their cited and citing documents.  in their granted patents or " only" patent applications ?

I am pointing out details, haven't you been reading my posts. I already addressed a number of key details.

As for invetors you noted, i only researched Flynn, but there are dozens of similar inventors i did research and it all comes down to more less same principle, altho execution methods vary.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:22:31 PM
Thanks Gyula!

Lets not be brake for Nix85, Lets support him. New ideas are welcome!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
LancaIV,

Focus!

Is there any replications or close replications of Kundel?
Please, do what you are best! Find!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:25:49 PM
Here's one example of Flynn's permanent magnet control patent.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5254925

Spiral shaped iron rotor will always rotate until it's closest to the PM, this is 90% or rotational cycle.

At the moment it wants to stick coil around PM is strongly pulsed to neutralize the attraction, rotation cycle continues with big energy gain.

Nice principle, but solid state is more elegant afterall.

BTW i made a replica of Thomas Engel's PM motor and saw definite energy gain, years of work went into it, but system is bulky, noisy so i abandoned it.

Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:30:43 PM
Here's one example of Flynn's permanent magnet control patent.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5254925

Spiral shaped iron rotor will always rotate until it's closest to the PM, this is 90% or rotational cycle.

At the moment it wants to stick coil around PM is strongly pulsed to neutralize the attraction, rotation cycle continues with big energy gain.

Nice principle, but solid state is more elegant afterall.

BTW i made a replica of Thomas Engel's PM motor and saw definity energy gain, years of work went into it, but system is bulky, noisy so i abandoned it.

OK.
Do you have any proposal in mind?
How will you made it?
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 12:38:59 PM
LancaIV,

Focus!

Is there any replications or close replications of Kundel?
Please, do what you are best! Find!
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
OK.
Do you have any proposal in mind?
How will you made it?

Important thing i learned yesterday which made me abandon concept i been persuing for last 6 months is that stacking magnets barely increases field strength after length of the stack becomes longer than the diameter.

For example, i got 8 cylindrical neodymiums 4cm x 2cm, 8 of them stacked give 0.43T on the pole, while 4 of them give practically the same, about 0,02T less, 3 of them ~0.3T, 2 just bit less and 1 0.29T.

However INBETWEEN the magnets there is doubling of the field, so inbetween just two of these magnets, field is stronger than at the pole of 8 of them stacked!

With this in mind, one needs to take optimum PM strength and find optimal coil field strength.

I been working on the latter for months and with help from one guy who knows Quickfield software, for example coil 16cm x 2.4cm, 450 turns and 50 amps produces about 0.4T in the center.

I later found it better to go with 11cm x 2.4cm, 425 turns (switched from alu to cu wire) which should significantly increase the field even with less amps but did not get him to simulate this one for me.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !

I wanted to point that out too. Correct.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 12:46:03 PM
nix85( Jahrgang 85 ?) :
for later amplyfier perfection , independant static or rotative :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1#)

with application example :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20111006&CC=US&NR=2011241349A1&KC=A1#
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 12:54:46 PM
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !

Thanks LancaIV, you rocks! Just as I thought! You are best at what you are master! Finding things!

Nix85

Quote
I been working on the latter for months and with help from one guy who knows Quickfield software, for example coil 16cm x 2.4cm, 450 turns and 50 amps produces about 0.4T in the center.

Can you elaborate more on this find? If it is stronger in center, how do you use that in your favor? How can you extract that strong field?
How your coil looks like?
Or circuit for extraction?
Please, your own words, no need for scientific terms?

Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 01:00:32 PM
I can see that you been experimenting for a long time or working on it.
Where there is effort, something can emerge!

So, slow down, and try to explain!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 01:05:51 PM
Can you elaborate more on this find? If it is stronger in center, how do you use that in your favor? How can you extract that strong field?
How your coil looks like?
Or circuit for extraction?
Please, your own words, no need for scientific terms?

I did not make it, i just ordered the wire (1.4mm copper). It should look just as described, sort of pancake 11cm wide 2.4cm high with 4cm hole in the center.

Inductane for this coil should be ~10mH. This is very large inductance, 3 times larger than subwoofer speaker coil for example.

To push high amps into it would take very high voltage or very low frequency. So that is issue number one. I hope to go as high as 1KHz with good audio amp. I was also considering ZVS drier but wil not use it cause it only can produce sinewave, NOT SQUARE.

It all comes down to breaking the flux and collecting the change.

Big question now is is Kunel right, flux at the end of soft iron rod is the same as at the end near the PM. VERY IMPORTANT. I now have to order the rod and measure it.

I am also considering as second option based on interesting explanating of possible lenz cancelation as posted by user hannon here.

It is basically an idea that passing a coil not just next to one pole of a magnet as usual, but between two attracting poles should neutralize the back emf.

It makes perfect sense and is worth persuing, but solid state is even better.

Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 01:12:41 PM
" natural fakes"( point of view) : linear /     non-linear = progressive/dynamic

Lichtbrechung  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction)

Skala : Richter/ Beaufort etc. : Scale degree 1 to degree 2 is not 100% more, magnitude !

Richard Fradella : a 1000 Watt nominal generator gives by nominal 1000 RPM 1000 Watt output
                                                  the same             with                                   500 RPM  125 Watt output
                                                  the same             with                                   100 RPM.      1 Watt output
vice-versa : how behaves an electric motor,nominal Watt/RPM curve  ?
                     how to calculate the force conversion ( forward/ back emf ) in static devices. ?
                                                                     F= BLI
             how to treat rotative or linear counter- force electrical : 2xB,  3xB,........
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=143&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=143&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#)
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=143&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#)
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 06, 2019, 01:15:00 PM
It makes perfect sense and is worth persuing, but solid state is even better.

OK.
If you have a hunch, you have to do it!
That's how we learn, and that's how one can achieve something!

Keep the thread alive!
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 01:42:30 PM
OK.
If you have a hunch, you have to do it!
That's how we learn, and that's how one can achieve something!

Keep the thread alive!

We must all try and exchange experience and knowledge.

Believe, pursue, achieve.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 01:49:41 PM
https://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/180/ (https://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/180/#187)
   #187
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 06, 2019, 01:55:38 PM
Holy grail, true shileding ceramic.

Of course inventor decided to hide it. You cant buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVcB3mVyZWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FABlYE9Vhc
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 02:04:30 PM
 ;)   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropermanent_magnet (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropermanent_magnet)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951031&CC=US&NR=5463263A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951031&CC=US&NR=5463263A&KC=A#)
Shielding experiments 2007 :
Hostalen/Hostaflon( ~ cigarettes box envelope,celophan) like transparent graphit foil + Diluol coating
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
                    "isoladas por um  dielectrico de macrofol "          https://www.professionalplastics.com/de/POLYCARB-MAKROFOLLINKS.html (https://www.professionalplastics.com/de/POLYCARB-MAKROFOLLINKS.html)

Based by :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1#)

From Metamaterial magnets and FeN16 magnets to silicon-graphene electro permanent magnets


Download the document and look for Tabelle 1 and 2 , analytical. !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

It is a displacement current to active magnetic power device. !
Tabelle 2 : Leistung/power versus Volt-Ampere and versus var
Explaining and conversion formulas are in the description to find. !

It seems to be an " overunity" device,  but cause it is based by pure strictly physics formula application :BIOT-SAVART law, we would have to define " physics is possible overunity education and knowledge", including Gibbs/Nernst/Claudius freedome/ limitations.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2019, 06:49:06 PM
WhatIsit,
figure 6,7
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
as emissor core

and here
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/data/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980908&CC=US&NR=5804901A&KC=A (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/data/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980908&CC=US&NR=5804901A&KC=A)
emissor core and receiver block.

But instead toroidal transformer core we can built coaxial devices :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1#)
And this easier manufacturing makes such concepts cheaper :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#)

Perfect for this wire technique :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)
" reduction of size by a factor 4 to 8,reduction in weight by a factor 4 to 6,increase in power density by 5 to 10 "

              Fine numbers  !  :)
Also fine the industrial planar transformer production costs :
https://web.archive.org/web/20130901130624/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20130901130624/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/)
 
5 KW transformer for 23$ down to 10$ : less than 1 cent per Wp ::)   


                                                                             Biot-Savart law

I am thinker and based by this I accepted 2007-DEC  a visit to Hassleben/FRG and let me in presence from Dipl.Ing G.Iwanek and Dr.Pavel Imris and from my side the engineer T.Coelho and technician Jorge Ferreira demonstrate the capacitive winding concept and effect as static device. !
Based by this demonstration and later experiments ( included prototypes) I understand what is physical possible.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 07, 2019, 08:34:59 AM
Holy grail, true shileding ceramic.

Of course inventor decided to hide it. You cant buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVcB3mVyZWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FABlYE9Vhc

Is this his webpage?
Dietmar Hohl.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magnetmotor.at%2F

There is a thread about him
http://www.energyscienceforum.com/showthread.php?t=657
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 07, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Is this his webpage?
Dietmar Hohl.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magnetmotor.at%2F

There is a thread about him
http://www.energyscienceforum.com/showthread.php?t=657

Yea, i sent him email like year ago, asking to buy it. No response.

I don't know if he's even alive or just wants to keep it secret.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 07, 2019, 09:04:21 AM
Guy at the linked forum mentions that the invetor of shield material mentions Howard Johnson's work on his site, whose book i happen to have.

One little detail of significance that magnetic field is actually double torroid, not flattened sphere.

I link screenshot from the book and picture of a bar magnetic field through ferrolens.

According to Zirbes, it will be double toroid when not aligned with earth's magnetic field and sphere like when aligned.

Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 07, 2019, 09:17:32 AM
Yea, i sent him email like year ago, asking to buy it. No response.

I don't know if he's even alive or just wants to keep it secret.

But his page is still active.
Title: Re: KUNEL device
Post by: nix85 on July 07, 2019, 09:22:35 AM
But his page is still active.

Try sending him email, you will get no reply.