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Offline lancaIV

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2019, 12:38:59 PM »
LancaIV,

Focus!

Is there any replications or close replications of Kundel?
Please, do what you are best! Find!
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !

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Re: KUNEL device
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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2019, 12:39:17 PM »
OK.
Do you have any proposal in mind?
How will you made it?

Important thing i learned yesterday which made me abandon concept i been persuing for last 6 months is that stacking magnets barely increases field strength after length of the stack becomes longer than the diameter.

For example, i got 8 cylindrical neodymiums 4cm x 2cm, 8 of them stacked give 0.43T on the pole, while 4 of them give practically the same, about 0,02T less, 3 of them ~0.3T, 2 just bit less and 1 0.29T.

However INBETWEEN the magnets there is doubling of the field, so inbetween just two of these magnets, field is stronger than at the pole of 8 of them stacked!

With this in mind, one needs to take optimum PM strength and find optimal coil field strength.

I been working on the latter for months and with help from one guy who knows Quickfield software, for example coil 16cm x 2.4cm, 450 turns and 50 amps produces about 0.4T in the center.

I later found it better to go with 11cm x 2.4cm, 425 turns (switched from alu to cu wire) which should significantly increase the field even with less amps but did not get him to simulate this one for me.

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2019, 12:39:54 PM »
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !

I wanted to point that out too. Correct.

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2019, 12:39:54 PM »
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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2019, 12:54:46 PM »
Kundel or Kunel , ATTENTION : two different known electric devices inventors  !

Thanks LancaIV, you rocks! Just as I thought! You are best at what you are master! Finding things!

Nix85

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I been working on the latter for months and with help from one guy who knows Quickfield software, for example coil 16cm x 2.4cm, 450 turns and 50 amps produces about 0.4T in the center.

Can you elaborate more on this find? If it is stronger in center, how do you use that in your favor? How can you extract that strong field?
How your coil looks like?
Or circuit for extraction?
Please, your own words, no need for scientific terms?


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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2019, 12:54:46 PM »
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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2019, 01:00:32 PM »
I can see that you been experimenting for a long time or working on it.
Where there is effort, something can emerge!

So, slow down, and try to explain!

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2019, 01:05:51 PM »
Can you elaborate more on this find? If it is stronger in center, how do you use that in your favor? How can you extract that strong field?
How your coil looks like?
Or circuit for extraction?
Please, your own words, no need for scientific terms?

I did not make it, i just ordered the wire (1.4mm copper). It should look just as described, sort of pancake 11cm wide 2.4cm high with 4cm hole in the center.

Inductane for this coil should be ~10mH. This is very large inductance, 3 times larger than subwoofer speaker coil for example.

To push high amps into it would take very high voltage or very low frequency. So that is issue number one. I hope to go as high as 1KHz with good audio amp. I was also considering ZVS drier but wil not use it cause it only can produce sinewave, NOT SQUARE.

It all comes down to breaking the flux and collecting the change.

Big question now is is Kunel right, flux at the end of soft iron rod is the same as at the end near the PM. VERY IMPORTANT. I now have to order the rod and measure it.

I am also considering as second option based on interesting explanating of possible lenz cancelation as posted by user hannon here.

It is basically an idea that passing a coil not just next to one pole of a magnet as usual, but between two attracting poles should neutralize the back emf.

It makes perfect sense and is worth persuing, but solid state is even better.


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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2019, 01:05:51 PM »
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2019, 01:12:41 PM »
" natural fakes"( point of view) : linear /     non-linear = progressive/dynamic

Lichtbrechung  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refraction

Skala : Richter/ Beaufort etc. : Scale degree 1 to degree 2 is not 100% more, magnitude !

Richard Fradella : a 1000 Watt nominal generator gives by nominal 1000 RPM 1000 Watt output
                                                  the same             with                                   500 RPM  125 Watt output
                                                  the same             with                                   100 RPM.      1 Watt output
vice-versa : how behaves an electric motor,nominal Watt/RPM curve  ?
                     how to calculate the force conversion ( forward/ back emf ) in static devices. ?
                                                                     F= BLI
             how to treat rotative or linear counter- force electrical : 2xB,  3xB,........
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=143&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2019, 01:15:00 PM »
It makes perfect sense and is worth persuing, but solid state is even better.

OK.
If you have a hunch, you have to do it!
That's how we learn, and that's how one can achieve something!

Keep the thread alive!

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2019, 01:15:00 PM »
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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2019, 01:42:30 PM »
OK.
If you have a hunch, you have to do it!
That's how we learn, and that's how one can achieve something!

Keep the thread alive!

We must all try and exchange experience and knowledge.

Believe, pursue, achieve.

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2019, 01:49:41 PM »

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2019, 01:55:38 PM »
Holy grail, true shileding ceramic.

Of course inventor decided to hide it. You cant buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVcB3mVyZWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FABlYE9Vhc

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2019, 02:04:30 PM »
 ;)   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electropermanent_magnet
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951031&CC=US&NR=5463263A&KC=A#
Shielding experiments 2007 :
Hostalen/Hostaflon( ~ cigarettes box envelope,celophan) like transparent graphit foil + Diluol coating
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC=
                    "isoladas por um  dielectrico de macrofol "          https://www.professionalplastics.com/de/POLYCARB-MAKROFOLLINKS.html

Based by :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1#

From Metamaterial magnets and FeN16 magnets to silicon-graphene electro permanent magnets


Download the document and look for Tabelle 1 and 2 , analytical. !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20040226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

It is a displacement current to active magnetic power device. !
Tabelle 2 : Leistung/power versus Volt-Ampere and versus var
Explaining and conversion formulas are in the description to find. !

It seems to be an " overunity" device,  but cause it is based by pure strictly physics formula application :BIOT-SAVART law, we would have to define " physics is possible overunity education and knowledge", including Gibbs/Nernst/Claudius freedome/ limitations.

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2019, 06:49:06 PM »
WhatIsit,
figure 6,7
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=3101918A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19820819&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
as emissor core

and here
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/data/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980908&CC=US&NR=5804901A&KC=A
emissor core and receiver block.

But instead toroidal transformer core we can built coaxial devices :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=25&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941208&CC=DE&NR=4318270A1&KC=A1#
And this easier manufacturing makes such concepts cheaper :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#

Perfect for this wire technique :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#
" reduction of size by a factor 4 to 8,reduction in weight by a factor 4 to 6,increase in power density by 5 to 10 "

              Fine numbers  !  :)
Also fine the industrial planar transformer production costs :
https://web.archive.org/web/20130901130624/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/
 
5 KW transformer for 23$ down to 10$ : less than 1 cent per Wp ::)   


                                                                             Biot-Savart law

I am thinker and based by this I accepted 2007-DEC  a visit to Hassleben/FRG and let me in presence from Dipl.Ing G.Iwanek and Dr.Pavel Imris and from my side the engineer T.Coelho and technician Jorge Ferreira demonstrate the capacitive winding concept and effect as static device. !
Based by this demonstration and later experiments ( included prototypes) I understand what is physical possible.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 08:50:18 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: KUNEL device
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2019, 08:34:59 AM »

 

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