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vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2018, 06:34:27 AM »
Free Energy,Dear Sir,
This time you will not disappoint as you will take very much interest in it.
My main problem is lack of resources to build it completely.
But whatever I made is clearly showing Overunity in this mechanism.
This time problem is going to be solved.

vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #121 on: May 01, 2018, 12:34:45 PM »
Hello Respected Members,
I did this simple work to prove that output is greater than input.
At first sketch details. There is a two tube mounted on a arm .each tube has ball of 1 kg. So total tube sidemass is 2 kg.i have not included tube weight. The counterweight is 1 kg. There is a latch mechanism in both tubes which will allow to fall the both balls verticallly after the arm get 180 degree. The device will oscillate clockwise and anticlockwise from 180 to 180 degree. A brake or lock system will work to prevent the device from further movement and only counterweight will hit this brake. Now as per video. If I drop the both balls from a certain height then the device move and trying to get 180 degree due to impact energy of falling ball s. And yes it will get it but there are some reasons due to the arm is not getting initial position of 180 degree. 1) the device is not using impact energy of the mass of lower tube. 2) the axle is wobbling 3)the dropping mass is dragging down it as there is no latch mechanism to hold the ball or mass. ...But ok. If the each ball mass is 1 kg.and each ball is falling down from 0.5 meter then the kinetic energy will be Using mgh formula Mgh= 1*9.8*0.5=4.9 joule Mgh= 1*9.8*0.5=4.9 joule Total energy will be 9.8 joule.

https://youtu.be/zHggwGWcK3w 

But in the video there is need of only 5 cm. to get the initial position then if I use two piston generator and if each generator works with 40 % efficiency then I have 4 joule in my hand as I will use the impact energy of both falling balls. But if I lift up the device only 5 cm then the device will get back it's initial position so there will be need of only 0.5 Joule energy as I will have to lift up only 1 kg. The out put energy is 4 joule and input is only 0.5 joule. Why this is happening? The interesting point is that there will be need of only 5 cm more to lift up the device to reset it on initial position as mass is not an issue in it. Please tell me.

vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #122 on: May 02, 2018, 11:04:04 AM »
See these two videos.the handheld weight is not  falling down reversely and arm is rotating at 180 to 180 degree.

just want to know can I use the impact energy of falling weights if yes then why it shouldn't work?

..and if no,then why????

In the video one stroke will generate 4 times energy as the handheld weight has been increased.

In second video I have hold the device to avoid wobbling but remember I am using impact energy of only one weight .if both weight fall down at same time then?

https://youtu.be/eqqOPZT9m2M

https://youtu.be/eJYi3uSOQyw
just want to know can I use the impact energy of falling weights if yes then why it shouldn't work?

..and if no,then why????

In the video one stroke will generate 4 times energy as the handheld weight has been increased.

In second video I have hold the device to avoid wobbling but remember I am using impact energy of only one weight .if both weight fall down at same time then?

vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2018, 11:13:51 AM »
I have increased the handheld weight.
Suppose the handheld weight is 1.5 kg
So the energy generate is 7.5 joule as it is falling down from 50 cm.height
The energy generate by lower tube weight 1 kg
Is 5 joule as it is also falling down from 50 cm.height.
Total energy from initial stroke is 12.5 joule.
Now the device is getting back its initial position of 180 degree so if the first stroke energy is being consumed then I can use second stroke energy,the same 12.5 joule .
So why it shouldn't work as there is clear cut gain in it.??????

vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #124 on: May 02, 2018, 09:41:26 PM »
  interestingly when I increased the weight of upper tube then the arm is rotating more than 180 degree without releasing the weight but releasing the brakes but not getting back 180 degree.

When I release the weight then the arm is rotating more than releasing the brakes and device is getting back more than 180 degree.

So it is clearly showing Overunity in this mechanism.

I did it just now

vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2018, 07:44:41 PM »
I increased the weight of upper tube and at first I am releasing the device.

The device is getting more than 180 degree.

But it is not getting back 180 degree.

But when I release the weight then it is getting 180 degree.

https://youtu.be/WoubwuRco6I
MAIN PROBLEM:

 

It is ready to getting back more than 180 degree but only problem is lack of latch as weight is dragging down the device due to reverse falling down.

Once latch mechanism attached then ,no doubt,it will work.

The weight was luckily got stuck when I did first attempt and didn't fall down reversely.so it is clearly showing that there is need of latch in it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #126 on: May 13, 2018, 09:48:58 PM »
I think (Rather know) the problem is how you're suppose to make that weight reset its position so it can fall down again. As you said, when the weight falls down, the pendulum moves beyond 180°, but not on its way back - due to lack of a working latch. I can't under any circumstances see how you're suppose to pull this off without spending your hands energy to initiate the first and next coming drops of that weight.
You have to look at this in a very simple way:
The weight must reach a higher level without putting energy in to do so. Without a higher level, and then more potential energy into the weight for each cycle, you have a dead device that isn't capable of sustaining its motion, and possibly be able to deliver useful work without stopping.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #127 on: May 17, 2018, 07:26:02 PM »
See the video.the weight or arm is getting back its initial position.
https://youtu.be/erAEKdJErsw
I am releasing it like a pendulum but we all know that a pendulum cannot get back it's initial position after releasing from a point.
But in this mechanism the pendulum is getting back its initial position because of potential explosion of free falling of weight.
But when the weight is not falling down to then it is not getting it's initial position.
There is need of latch mechanism to hold the weight and no doubt it will work.
I do some changes in it.a bearing and mount it on a rigid foot and the pendulum will get back more height than the initial position.
All mathematics is supporting overunity in this mechanism.
I will present a second video very soon.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #128 on: May 17, 2018, 08:04:33 PM »
The weight is falling down twicely in this mechanism and again getting back its initial position.
I fix a bearing and mount it on a rigid foot and the device will get back more height than the initial position.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #129 on: March 12, 2019, 07:53:34 AM »
As per sketch I did some work and got success .
The arm is getting more than 180 degree after releasing the ball and again getting back more then previous height.
In each cycle the height of arm is getting more and more and it is clearly proving overunity.
Soon I will present a video.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2019, 11:46:39 AM »
I just will have to mount it on a rigid foot .
It is working even when ball is rubbing with side wall of tubes.
There are two options to build it.
I am considering both options to build it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #131 on: July 01, 2019, 07:05:51 AM »
A possibly promising design in the objective eye... is a variation on Elon Musk's energy storage system using weights on upward-angled train tracks.