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Author Topic: New version of flotation device  (Read 3592 times)

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New version of flotation device
« on: May 31, 2019, 09:03:00 PM »
@ All readers

This device utilizes

1. A first lifting by gravity, of the flotation element of the device within a fluid to an intermediate position (work out).
2. A first 180 degree rotation of the device, while it is in a balanced (in gravity) state.
3. A second lifting by gravity, of the flotation element of the device within a fluid to an upper most position (work out).
4. Removal of the float element without affecting the pressure within the flotation fluid, nor the lowering of the height of that fluid (work in).
                    There is no work done against fluid pressure.
5.  A first fall by gravity, of the flotation element of the device (external to the fluid), to an intermediate position (work out).
6. A second 180 degree rotation of the device, while it is in a balanced (in gravity) state.
7. A second fall by gravity, of the flotation element of the device (external to the fluid), to a lowest position (work out).
8. Insertion of a float element without affecting the pressure within the flotation fluid, nor the raising of the height of that fluid (work in).
                    There is no work done against fluid pressure.
9. Start / stop actions (there is no continuous motion). All motion sets complete before a next motion set begins.
10.. more mechanical work out, than is input.
                                               
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2019, 09:06:45 PM »
PNG drawings

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2019, 09:16:46 PM »
Second drawing

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2019, 09:16:46 PM »
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2019, 09:19:36 PM »
No tariffs on these materials. Not yet !

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2019, 11:49:03 PM »
I'\'m looking for some one to find an error in this.

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2019, 11:49:03 PM »
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2019, 11:38:44 PM »
I had previously thought that gravity power had been explored suffuciently and also
that gravity was simple enough to expect there would never be a gravity powered device.

I gave it another shot, and saw a way to loop it O.U..
This presentation is that sucess.  Some seemingly impossable obsticles
and the a eurika, and then a WOW

check it out
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2019, 01:56:57 PM »
@ At all readers

I cleaned up / added more detail to the flow diagram / drawings and added a minor detail to the
written explanations page.

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2019, 01:56:57 PM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2019, 02:28:53 PM »

QUOTE from a users personal message

"It's the gravitational potential of the small amount of water that rushes in to fill the space left by the float as it leaves the bottom of the tank. So, when you rotate the tank, you actually have to perform some net work to also rotate that additional amount of water through its increased vertical displacement. Though it's a VERY SMALL amount of vertical displacement, it's still not zero, which I think you need it to be for the idea to work." END QUOTE

      Thanks very much for your observations / comments.

Your observations would be correct except that.

      9.  All / each action is a start / complete / stop
        action.

        There is no rotation untill after the float is stopped
        / latched / held at the center of the float tank.
.......................................................................................

While the float is at the bottom, the tank is unbalanced
While the float is riseing, the tank is unbalanced.
While the float has stopped at center, the tank IS IN BALANCE.
Rotation occurs only while the float is at center height.

Sorry that my diagram doesn't state / detail this.
Thanks again for bringing this oversigt forward.
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 02:03:22 AM »
More detail


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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 10:32:18 AM »

While the float is at the bottom, the tank is unbalanced
While the float is riseing, the tank is unbalanced.
While the float has stopped at center, the tank IS IN BALANCE.
Rotation occurs only while the float is at center height.


That is partially true. In step 6 to 7 of your illustration the float is outside and the tank is no longer balanced so it will take work to rotate the tank as it has become bottom heavy.

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2019, 02:48:40 AM »

That is partially true. In step 6 to 7 of your illustration the float is outside and the tank is no longer balanced so it will take work to rotate the tank as it has become bottom heavy.

Incorrect,

The tank is balanced in steps 6 and 7.

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2019, 02:48:40 AM »
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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2019, 03:04:25 AM »
In the drawings. The device is balanced by the end of step 6 but also the device is balanced
throughout step 7 (the rotation).

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2019, 11:15:37 PM »
@ All readers


There is a PDF file just below the above drawing, it contains all of the above action sets / drawings.


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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2019, 03:33:59 AM »
what is the weight of a float?

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Re: New version of flotation device
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2019, 10:06:49 PM »
what is the weight of a float?


answers

1. The weight of the device can be any amount, as long it is no more than  the structural / support members of the device can handle.
2.  The weight would depend upon the scale of the device.
3. Less than an equal volume of the flotation liquid.
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